As we prepare to say goodbye to our 43rd President, an important question needs to be asked: will those suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome be cured on Inauguration Day?
As most informed people are aware, BDS was first identified by conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer. In his December 5, 2003, Washington Post article, Krauthammer described the malady as "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."
Although Krauthammer addressed others in the grips of this pernicious affliction that "generally struck people with previously compromised intellectual immune systems" such as Barbra Streisand, his real concern was for Democrat presidential candidate Howard Dean:
I cannot testify to Howard Dean's sanity before this campaign, but five terms as governor by a man with no visible tics and no history of involuntary confinement is pretty good evidence of a normal mental status. When he avers, however, that "the most interesting" theory as to why the president is "suppressing" the Sept. 11 report is that Bush knew about Sept. 11 in advance, it's time to check on thorazine supplies. When Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.) first broached this idea before the 2002 primary election, it was considered so nutty it helped make her former representative McKinney. Today the Democratic presidential front-runner professes agnosticism as to whether the president of the United States was tipped off about 9/11 by the Saudis, and it goes unnoticed. The virus is spreading.
Of course, it's not unusual for politicians to view those on the opposite side of the aisle as demons, or, at the very least, to express such. It's therefore much more important to determine when the media caught this illness. Krauthammer gave us some clues:
It is true that BDS has struck some pretty smart guys -- Bill Moyers ranting about a "right-wing wrecking crew" engaged in "a deliberate, intentional destruction of the United States way of governing" and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, whose recent book attacks the president so virulently that Krugman's British publisher saw fit to adorn the cover with images of Vice President Cheney in a Hitler-like mustache and Bush stitched up like Frankenstein. Nonetheless, some observers took that to be satire; others wrote off Moyers and Krugman as simple aberrations, the victims of too many years of neurologically hazardous punditry.
As Moyers' appearance at "Take Back America" was on June 4, 2003, and the Krugman book Krauthammer was likely referring to - "The Great Unraveling: Losing Our Way in the New Century" - was published that September, it seems safe to conclude BDS began infiltrating the liberal media that summer.
Prior to that point, at least according to today's conventional wisdom -- whatever that means! -- the press were supposedly cheerleaders for the war. Once things in Iraq didn't go as smoothly as planned, a cover-story was floated: journalists -- whatever that means! -- didn't do a good enough job of ferreting out the facts concerning pre-invasion intelligence, and therefore neglected to present a more anti-war approach as would have typically been their wont.
While this disingenuous mea culpa worked marvelously on those in the grips of BDS, it was an historical revisionism key to spreading the malady.
As media were not privy to pre-war intelligence beyond what the Administration was presenting, they had to rely on those that were. Given the overwhelming bipartisan support for the war resolution, there weren't a lot of Congress men and women voicing strong opposition to the invasion prior to 2004.

What BDS victims and those spreading the affliction have all conveniently forgotten is that in the House, the October 2002 vote was 296-133, with 81 Democrats saying "Aye." These included such high-profile Representatives as Dick Gephardt and Jane Harman.
On the Senate side, the vote was 77-23 with 29 Democrats saying "Aye." These included media darlings like Evan Bayh, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Tom Daschle, Christopher Dodd, Diane Feinstein, Tom Harkin, Ernest Hollings, John Kerry, Joe Lieberman, and Chuck Schumer.
As many of these folks were historically quite dovish, and highly outspoken about the threat Iraq posed, what basis would media have had to present a stronger case against the invasion? Who were they to question the incursion when politicians they supported were all for it? How could the New York Times oppose a war backed by both New York Democrat Senators it had previously endorsed?
As a result, the whole concept that the press weren't skeptical enough about pre-war intelligence is an historical revisionism designed to misrepresent what actually was a bipartisan decision, and is at the very heart of Bush Derangement Syndrome.
The key to this malady was the ability to blame everything on George W. Bush. It was therefore imperative to unburden Democrats of any responsibility for the war, for if you can't exclusively blame Bush for going into Iraq, how do you finger him for hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, wildfires, and anything else bad that happens on the planet?
Obviously, you can't, which is why Howard Dean was so important to the birth and spreading of BDS.
For those that have forgotten, Dean gave a speech at the California State Democratic Convention on March 15, 2003, less than a week before the invasion, wherein he asked attendees, "What I want to know is what in the world so many Democrats are doing supporting the President's unilateral intervention in Iraq?"
45 days later, when the mission wasn't accomplished as suggested by the now infamous banner placed atop the USS Abraham Lincoln, Dean suddenly started getting a huge amount of press attention.
As his Bush-bashing rants quickly made him frontrunner for the Democrat presidential nomination, as well as assisted him in out-fundraising his opponents, media began to recognize there was money to be made by tossing aside reason and attacking Bush whenever possible. A presidential election was around the corner, and the Republican incumbent who appeared invulnerable as he landed his plane on a homeward-bound aircraft carrier was starting to show some cracks.
With this in mind, when Krauthammer addressed "What Makes The Bush Haters So Mad" in September, and followed it up with a catchy name less than three months later, his timing was spot-on.
Once the presidential campaign kicked into high gear in 2004, the malady began taking more and more victims, not the least of which were CBS's Dan Rather and Mary Mapes who ended up being fired for using forged Texas Air National Guard documents in order to discredit Bush during a September 8 "60 Minutes" segment.
Months after Bush was re-elected to the dismay of liberal press members who had jumped on John Kerry's bandwagon after Dean's highly-publicized meltdown in Iowa - readers are reminded of Katie Couric practically crying on NBC's "Today" show the morning after Election Day -- media outlets suggested he wasn't quick enough to offer financial support to nations impacted by the December 26 tsunamis.
Of course, we hadn't seen anything yet, for by 2005, virtually every press outlet in the country was afflicted as they bound together to assist Democrats in stopping Social Security reform, and finished the year by blaming the President for Hurricane Katrina.
Now, more than three years later, having mercilessly pounded on this man since the summer of 2003, media members are jubilant that Bush has the lowest approval rating of any outgoing president since the question was first asked 70 years ago.
Does that suggest the badgering is done, and the press will move on to another object of disaffection?
Don't count on it according to MSNBC's Rachel Maddow:
This is the start of the part where we don't have President Bush to kick around anymore. That said, given his approval ratings and the state of the world his tenure has left us with there can be no promise that we won't be compelled to try to keep on with the kicking around.
Sadly, I agree with her, as there is great precedent for liberal media members continuing to kick around Republican presidents well after they're out of office. Consider that Herbert Hoover left the White House in 1933, and he still gets eviscerated 75 years later.
Much like today's BDS, media hatred of Hoover conveniently ignores facts. Although the economy was in a recession in 1930, the Depression really didn't begin until 1931. This means that for all intents and purposes, Hoover only presided over two years of the Depression.
By contrast, as the GDP didn't surpass its 1929 output until 1941, and unemployment after peaking during Franklin D. Roosevelt's first year in office didn't return to more normal levels until 1942, Roosevelt presided over almost ten years of the Depression.
Regardless, to this day, Hoover gets all the blame for this horrible period in economic history, and Roosevelt gets all the credit for ending it even though the economy only improved once America entered World War II and went right back into a serious recession once the war ended.
With this in mind, it seems that no matter what happens to our economy in the next four years, Bush Derangement Syndrome will live on.
If we do begin to recover from our current condition, no matter what Obama does or how long it takes, he'll get the credit and media will bash Bush. If conditions don't demonstrably improve, no matter what Obama does or how long he's in office, media will bash Bush.
Given the Hoover precedent, it seems likely BDS will exist for decades to come.
Gives you a lot to look forward to, doesn't it?
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.





It is true that BDS has struck some pretty smart guys -- Bill Moyers ranting about a "right-wing wrecking crew" engaged in "a deliberate, intentional destruction of the United States way of governing" and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, whose recent book attacks the president so virulently that Krugman's British publisher saw fit to adorn the cover with images of Vice President Cheney in a Hitler-like mustache and Bush stitched up like Frankenstein. Nonetheless, some observers took that to be satire; others wrote off Moyers and Krugman as simple aberrations, the victims of too many years of neurologically hazardous punditry.














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I doubt it Noel
January 20, 2009 - 02:05 ET by candanceLook at the treatment they still give to Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon. BDS is something special, and I have a feeling it will outlive us all.
I'm a typical white person.
That's right, candance...
January 20, 2009 - 03:40 ET by JerThat's right, candance....Let's all join Ann and launch an effort to restore the good name of Joe McCarthy, the bullying demagogic drunk, former friend of the Kennedys, and one of the most dangerous individuals of post-WWII America.
Thankfully, he eventually turned his outrageous, brainless blustering against the Army and the Eisenhower administration, which, not surprisingly, didn't find it particular amusing, or of continuing benefit to the Republican party. With a rapidly dissolving political base, he slowly faded into an alcohol-drenched, but well-deserved obscurity, his sorry career finally and mercifully brought to an ignominious end.
Don't shed any tears for Tailgunner Joe.
Nixon, well...even I felt sorry for him in the closing days before his resignation, and remained sympathetic afterwards. In many respects, he was an extraordinarily gifted politician and statesman, but I tend to agree with the assessment of Robert Novak who described him as simply psychologically unsuited for the presidency.
Jer
"Let's all join Ann and
January 20, 2009 - 06:41 ET by Blazer"Let's all join Ann and launch an effort to restore the good name of Joe
McCarthy, the bullying demagogic drunk, former friend of the Kennedys,
and one of the most dangerous individuals of post-WWII America."
Jer, doesn't change the fact that McCarthy was right. So was Kruschev for that matter. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Blazer... Your broken
January 20, 2009 - 18:01 ET by JerBlazer...
Your broken clock analogy is apt. So is the fact that if you smear an entire wall with mud, you're bound to cover a few cracks in the process.
McCarthy was the driver of an out-of-control steamroller [even when he wasn't drinking], and he didn't mind if innocents were flattened in the process.
Not that you have, but please don't confuse my views of McCarthy with a denial that the communists had penetrated our government in the 1930's, 40's. and 50's.
Jer
Jer, McCarthy also claimed
January 20, 2009 - 20:57 ET by BlazerJer, McCarthy also claimed that Hollywood and academia were rife with communists. He was right. Rife may have been a strong word then, but, it is festering with them now, along with the MSM.
Say what you want, but keep in mind, despite the mans shortcomings, he was as right as right can be and all anyone has to do is take a look at what our entertainment, education and journalism institutions have become today.His worst fear has come to fruition.
Oh and by that token, Kruschev's chilling prophesy has also come to fruition. As relayed to Ezra Taft Benson by Kruschev:
"The leader of the Soviet Union, Nikita Kruschev (who followed
Stalin) was going to visit the U.S. and Benson was ordered by
Eisenhower to give Kruschev a tour of some of our agricultural
facilities. With great reluctance, Benson agreed to do as requested by
the President.
During the tour Kruschev remarked to Secretary
Benson that communism would eventually consume democracy. Benson
replied that Americans would never accept such a drastic change in
their form of government as communism. Kruschev then told Benson that
it was already beginning to happen.
He said that Americans were
being fed one small bite of communism at a time, and that over the
course of several years, Americans will have accepted so many
communistic ideals, including a massive and uncontrollable federal
government, that one day we would wake up to discover that we are a
democracy only in name - that our policies and methods of government
will be communist in nature. Kruschev concluded that it will be the
slow injection of socialist/communist principles into America - not
nuclear missiles - that would destroy our nation."
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
I see Jer
January 20, 2009 - 11:39 ET by candanceSo it's impossible for McCarthy to have been correct about the State department because he liked to drink.
Oh, and I love how one day you call the Kennedys the most politically active family in America and use Caroline's last name as a reason she's qualified for the Senate, then the next day you smear McCarthy as boorish drunkard who was friends with the Kennedys.
Nixon, well...even I felt sorry for him in the closing days before his resignation, and remained sympathetic afterwards.
That's a refreshing change from the countless movies, shows, and media references designed to paint Nixon as Satan incarnate. You again find yourself a minority voice on the left.
I'm a typical white person.
candance...
January 20, 2009 - 18:10 ET by JerSo it's impossible for McCarthy to have been correct about the State department because he liked to drink.
No, and that's not what I said. See my above response to Blazer.
Oh, and I love how one day you call the Kennedys the most politically active family in America and use Caroline's last name as a reason she's qualified for the Senate, then the next day you smear McCarthy as boorish drunkard who was friends with the Kennedys.
Yeah, point taken. But I was just throwing you guys a little bone to play with. :-)
That's a refreshing change from the countless movies, shows, and media references designed to paint Nixon as Satan incarnate. You again find yourself a minority voice on the left.
A minority voice? To the chagrin of my friends to my left, that's where my voice can often be found.
Jer
BDS won't be forgotten, nor should we
January 20, 2009 - 02:46 ET by legacyrepublicanI have been tempted to place a sign on a neighbors house I drove by for the last two years. They had the sign "Paid Enough? Vote Democratic" on their lawn.
I noticed it conviently disappeared last year about the time the bailout was voted in and Obama said he was going to do his own stimulus package.
I am going to place a sign on their lawn after the next stimulus package gets voted for that says ...
"Paid Enough? Thanks for voting Democratic! After all, what's a trillion or two or three or maybe even four to you. "
They won't forget nor will I!
$ave America
January 20, 2009 - 10:29 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsYou should put a number on that sign. It looks to be about $7000 per taxpayer to cover the 1.4 trillion. That's just for starters.
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
It won't end. There is a
January 20, 2009 - 03:06 ET by soulpileIt won't end. There is a fear of Bush and conservatives in general, so I won't be expecting the other side to let up anytime soon. The goal is to suppress and in order to achieve the goal, attack must continue.
I remember seeing that poster of Bush and the Statue of Liberty at a convention. Very upsetting. I don't recall seeing anything like that when Clinton was in office.
They'll never give it up.
January 20, 2009 - 03:50 ET by superconThey like it too much.It makes them feel good to publicly vent their anger and insult George Bush.Their hatred is not just reserved for President Bush as they hate all conservatives as well and they'll relish every single chance to tell you. When they see Keith Olbermann go on one of his insane tirades they don't see it as over the top as he is speaking for them as well.His network has decided to go even further left and gave Rachel Maddow her own show.
I believe that their hatred can be traced back to when Bill Clinton became President and they finally had one of their own in the White House. They were finally going to prove that liberalism could work and validate all their old leftover beliefs from the sixties.They burn with hatred because they blame Republicans for ruining what they thought was there chance to build their perfect society.They thought that they had one more chance with Gore but then George Bush stole it from him all killed their hopes.When they tried to run Kerry as a war hero to hide their true feelings about the military and he was destroyed by the Swift Boat Vets that was the last straw.They could not contain their anger anymore after that.They use the words "Swift Boat" as an insult."Conservative" is now a dirty word to them.They spit that word out like it is acid on their tongue.
Spitting in the face of anything conservative is the new standard for the MSM.They are out of the closet about their liberal left-wing ideology and nothing will make them go back.This is their chance again to return the Camelot days of JFK and nothing will stop them.
Using their vast media resources to affect elections and shape public opinion has worked very well for them and that too has become an industry standard.They will never be neutral again or at least as neutral as they used to pretend that they were.I predict that their arrogance and hostility will only grow.They will do their best to stomp out the opposition.They smell blood and they have never felt stronger.
The next new thing for the MSM will be that it is now their mission to protect and serve Obama like they are his personal army.All rules and ethics be damned if it concerns Obama.They will deify him and savage his enemies.All bad press will be neutralized and all Republicans will be relentlessly hounded,ridiculed and chased off like stray dogs.
If you thought that they were bad during this last election cycle you ain't seen nothing yet.They will be like storm troopers mowing down anyone in their way.Their secondary mission will be to destroy Sarah Palin and they will attack her and ridicule her as some sort of hillbilly backwoods redneck every chance that they get.
It's going to get bumpy for the next few years.
Because with a name like Obama... you know it has to be good.
Dateline 23 June 2016:
January 20, 2009 - 03:58 ET by SlicksterDateline 23 June 2016: "Good evening, This is NBC news and I'm Keith Olberman, Today president Obama announced that the continuing food riots in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago are being caused by the polices enacted during the Bush administration". "The president said that he tried to block the ethanol program during his time in the senate by continually voting present to show his strong disapproval. "
If you thought that they
January 20, 2009 - 07:05 ET by motherbeltIf you thought that they were bad during this last election cycle you
ain't seen nothing yet.They will be like storm troopers mowing down
anyone in their way.
I can't wait to see what Bill Moyers' reaction is when the Obama administration starts controlling (not by legislation, but by dictatorial EPA regulations) what we can drive, the temperature in our homes; assessing penalties for not recycling, etc., all in the name of "climate change".....
I wonder if he will call it "a deliberate, intentional destruction of the United States way of governing" as he refers to the Bush administration.
Not likely, because after all, it will be the "right" people ruling by fiat to "do what's best" for the country and the planet.
He will call it necessary remedies...
January 20, 2009 - 08:07 ET by superconor sacrifice or something like that. Remember that Barack Obama is the man that history has been waitng for.Being critical of the President will now be considered rude again.
Because with a name like Obama... you know it has to be good.
This is only the beginning.
January 20, 2009 - 05:22 ET by SpaceManSpiffThis is only the beginning. The liberal machine started getting it's act together 8 years ago, and they've been gaining steam ever since. Now that they effectively control a majority of the media, entertainment, and educational outlets (and government), it's only going to get worse. They're quickly reaching a point where they'll be able to say, do, or revise anything they want. They're using every tool at their disposal to get their way, to hell with the Constitution, freedom, or ethics. Socialism is a disease, and the US is infected. Liberal programs never go away. Social Security, Welfare, Government Health Care, they're all here to stay until the country crumbles.
Did Orwell predict the future? Or are the enemies of freedom following Orwell's example?
NOPE
January 20, 2009 - 06:20 ET by ricklailI think you answered your own question in the great article.
Ricky Joe the Plumber
I look forward to NewsBusters being around for decades ...
January 20, 2009 - 06:25 ET by Jayke... The reporting here is a breath of fresh air. NB is an oasis of truth where I can escape the desert of the mindless press. This report on BDS is a prime example of the quality work NB does.
They Will "NEVER, NEVER, NEVER GIVE UP"
January 20, 2009 - 06:36 ET by CapeCodScottThe BDS crowd is Churchillian in their hatred.
We Can show our Thanks to President Bush by Sending this around. 2,689 Days
www.ScottOnCapeCod.com
"Most men lead lives of quiet desperation"... until they get fed-up enough to finally say something about it!
BDS won't stop
January 20, 2009 - 07:08 ET by Worriedand neither will SDS (Sarah Derangement Syndrome). The Old Media won't be keeping an eye on the POTUS like they're supposed to, they'll just continue to bash Bush. At least Bush is hardened by the critiques now.
How long do you think it will be before some criticism is thrown at the Old Media's messiah? Ever?
It should be interesting to
January 20, 2009 - 08:19 ET by Hunter12It should be interesting to see what happens the first time the "Joan Rivers" methodology of foreign relations fails and we suffer another attack. Eight years ago the prior administration was absolved of responsibility after the inauguration occurred.
We all know who will be blamed. PDB's be damned!
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
"will those suffering
January 20, 2009 - 08:58 ET by danbo"will those suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome be cured on Inauguration Day?" With all due respect Noel; President Reagan has been out of office for almost 20 years. He died in 04. Did we see an end to Reagan Derangement syndrome?
Limited Disclosure: I used to belong to the Sierra Club untill they went crazier. Worse of all, I was bribed by Exxon with free New Orleans Saints glasses with fill ups in the 70's.
Reagan was a great President
January 20, 2009 - 09:08 ET by shawn228He will be remembered as the man that ended the cold war and bringing down the Berlin Wall
Bush cannot even be mentioned in the same breath as Reagan. Yes he has kept us safe from a terrorist attack but even though the evidence was convincing, Bush will be known as the President that took us war on false intelligence and doubled our national debt.
I guess time will tell, how long BDS is around.
He had my vote
Good morning Shawn
January 20, 2009 - 09:29 ET by choselife3xI didn't want us to go to Iraq. But we went because of the 16 UN sanctions Hussein openly flouted. We took so long openly debating it that we gave them plenty of time to move things out of the country. The WMD's are in Syria now.
When we're attacked again I suspect people will stop saying "Bush kept us safe, but...."
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Good morning chose
January 20, 2009 - 09:32 ET by shawn228Democrats saw the same evidence as Bush and it is their fault just as much as the Presidents, I am just saying that history will show this President started a war based on faulty intelligence and is now justifying it as liberating Iraq.
He had my vote
The Iraqi historians will have a different take
January 20, 2009 - 09:43 ET by choselife3xMillions of people were liberated from a brutal dictatorship with the least amount of bloodshed in the history of warfare.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
The evidence of WMDs
January 20, 2009 - 10:03 ET by cocodrieThe evidence of WMDs was found but not reported by the old media and the democrats. Both chemical and nuclear evidence was found. There were research and manufacturing facilities, rockets, containers, warheads, and yellowcake uranium to name a few.
Before you ask me to prove it with endless references, Look it up. The proof has been reported in many places. If you choose to remain blind that is your priviledge
Jesus Loves You
cocodrie
January 20, 2009 - 10:31 ET by shawn228I only have two references for you. First is from President Bush himself.
He is the one that said his biggest regret is receiving faulty intelligence and even Karl Rove does not believe Bush would have invaded if he had a do over.
Your saying the media is saying big fat lie when they say there was faulty intelligence, are you saying the same about President Bush as well?
Here is a quote from Karl Rove
"In the aftermath of 9/11 the concern was about a tyrant accused of
enormous human rights abuses," but who also possessed weapons of mass
destruction, said Rove. "Absent that, I suspect that the
administration's course of action would have been to work to find more
creative ways to constrain him like in the 90s."
He had my vote
I think the point of this
January 20, 2009 - 10:43 ET by SmartypantsI think the point of this post is that the media collectively is being disingenuous in changing the story after the fact. Most Intelligence agencies around the globe believed Hussein possessed WMD's. There were multiple UN Resolutions against Iraq under Hussein, which were not being adquately enforced by the UN; 9/11 did occur, which showed the world exactly what these terrorists are capable of if they have the means and opportunity; Hussein was known to be consorting with terrorist groups, even allowing terrorist training grounds in his country. In addition, I know memories are short, but there was ample debate about the merits of going to war versus the alternatives--in the media and in Washington, D.C. Bush did not just railroad the war through Congress. A coalition of nations was built; the most notable exlusions (Russia, France and Germany) all had economic ties to Hussein and, therefore, had their own motives for their actions. Even Saddam Hussein himself was acting guilty; he could have avoided war by just complying with the Resolutions--he'd still be alive and in charge today! For the media to now claim that they should have done more digging as to the cause for going to war is absurd. What was the media going to learn that most of the world's Intelligence sources did not already know? The press was never in favor of the war from the beginning; however, they had no way of coming up with clear cut evidence that showed Iraq had no WMD's. The problem is they are now acting like that evidence was easily ascertainable at the time. Poppycock.
Shawn
January 20, 2009 - 11:07 ET by cocodriePresident Bush's actual words, "It is true that most of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As president I am responsible for going into Iraq, and I am also responsible for fixing what went wrong by reforming our intelligence capabilities. And we're doing just that."
Nowhere does he say there were no WMDs. WMDs were actually found and not reported. Lies and omissions of pertinent facts are the stock in trade of the Old Media. Accept them if you like - I don't.
your references are from Current Affairs and MSNBC, two of the most rabid anti-Bush whack jobs in existence. Hardly credible.
Karl Roves statement merely says the administration was concerned about enormous human rights abuses and WMDs. The war is won and Iraq is free. I realize that the Old Media and other left-wing extremists will never give President Bush the credit he is due. They will steal it and give it all to The Chosen One. You are choosing to turn a blind eye to reality.
I for one knows where the credit belongs.
Jesus Loves You
→ coco
January 20, 2009 - 11:15 ET by Cool ArrowSaddam told his interrogators he intentionally led the world to believe he had WMD because it strengthened his hand against Iran.
For how many years did we attribute substantially more respect for Russia's military strength than they deserved?
Isn't it a little more honest when Liberals just come out with what they're thinking? "Bush Lied, People died"
Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country - Muslim, Khalil Gibran
Good morning Cool
January 20, 2009 - 11:26 ET by cocodrieyou're right about that, and he did a good job of it. The fact that he used WMDs against the Kurds and against Iran gave him credibility.
I think I'll have to calm down a little. I see America going down the toilet and The Chosen One and the left-wing extremist democrats are doing the flushing.
Jesus Loves You
Cocodrie please answer this question
January 20, 2009 - 20:57 ET by shawn228Remember I am not arguing with you if we found wmd or not. My point is that it is the official stance from the Bush administration is that there was faulty evidence and we found no WMD.
Please look at this video and tell me what President Bush says 20 seconds in.
Again, please don't go off topic about justification or not, again the fact that we did not find WMD and there was faulty intelligence was the Bush adminstration and not just the msm right?
He had my vote
I agree Shawn no WMD's were
January 20, 2009 - 21:02 ET by BlazerI agree Shawn no WMD's were found Iraq. That is if you discount the 550 tons of yellow-cake uranium that was shipped from Iraq to Canada.
Remember, there was no yellow-cake in Iraq, Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame even said so.
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- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Sorry Shawn
January 20, 2009 - 21:10 ET by cocodrieI have been to enough of your hateful leftist sites and don't plan to visit any more of them.
It is historical fact that Saddam used WMDs (poison gas) against the Kurds and against Iran. He bragged how he would use them against us. The UN and all other countries believed he had them and would use them.
Your denial of this is a denial of reality.
Jesus Loves You
Please cocodrie
January 20, 2009 - 21:22 ET by shawn228It is not a hateful lefty site, it is a link to a press conference, and I am not arguing with you if there were wmd or not, just what the official Bush adminstration postition is, you can;t seem to answer the question.
He had my vote
→ Shawn
January 20, 2009 - 21:49 ET by Cool ArrowPlease tell us when this lie about WMD was started.
Bill Clinton certainly believed it and fired Cruise missiles into Iraq in an attempt to stop their program. (CNN 12/16/98)
The simple answeris that Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and President Bush were all privy to the same information, and came to the same conclusion.
Only difference is that after the 2nd Iraq invasion started, Hillary and Kerry got to slink away from their politically motivated posturing, Bill Clinton was insignificant, and only President Bush was left with the decision they all made.
Politics can be a cheap game, but the populace needs to remember who said what, and when.
You seem willing to let slide the Congressional vote to invade for the sake of your argument, but history says you're wrong.
Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country - Muslim, Khalil Gibran
Cool
January 20, 2009 - 22:23 ET by shawn228In 3 years I have never posted once that I believe Bush lied to us about WMD. I have never wavered from position if it was worth the cost, but I linked cocodrie to what Bush said about faulty intelligence, He said Bush did not actually say they did not find WMD, so I found him one that did.
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I have stated to the far leftys on this site many times that the Dems all saw the same evidence as the GOP, please do not change the topic and make it sound like I am a "blood for oil" Dem
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Not to sound condecending, but I was very proud of the comments you posted today complimenting Obama on his speech.:-)
He had my vote
Shawn
January 20, 2009 - 22:28 ET by cocodrieThey found them later.
THEY FOUND THEM . THEY FOUND THEM. THEY FOUND THEM.
Now my bucket is running over.
Jesus Loves You
Shawn
January 20, 2009 - 21:43 ET by cocodrieThere was faulty intelligence but President Bush liberated a country from the rule of a murdering dictator.
Is it so hard to let President Bush receive the credit he deserves for that accomplishment? Many other countries fought alongside our troops and won the war.
Two hundred years from now the left-wing extremists will still be raking President Bush over the coals for doing the right thing at the right time. PLEASE don't be one of them.
Jesus Loves You
Cool and cocodrie
January 20, 2009 - 22:11 ET by shawn228The question will be debated for decades if Iraq have WMD. Freestinker has an excellent case for why invading Iraq was the right move.
Again, one more time....Regardless of the fact If I personally feel if it was worth the cost to Invade Iraq, I am trying in vain to get cocodrie to answer a question.
Cocodrie keeps repeating that the msm is lying that there were no WMD. I am asking him if the Bush adminstration is lying as well since it is their stance.
He had my vote
Shawn, why do you deny reality?
January 20, 2009 - 22:24 ET by cocodrieShawn, why do you deny reality? SADDAM USED WMDs AGAINST THE KURDS AND IRAN. HE HAD WMDs(POISON GAS) and the delivery systems. HE HAD YELLOW CAKE URANIUM . HE HAD CENTRIFUGES.
I answered your question. HE HAD WMDs.
Now my buckets full.
Jesus Loves You
No sadly, Cocodrie you are not answering my question
January 20, 2009 - 22:33 ET by shawn228I am being patient here, One more time, I am not asking if Iraq had WMD's, I am asking you if The Bush adminstration ever said we did not find WMD in Iraq and if so are they lying?
Very sad that you are avoiding questions like the liberals you despise.
He had my vote
shawn, coco
January 20, 2009 - 22:39 ET by porpoiseboycoco, shawn i just playing a little game called " i'm gonna get you to say bush lied"......he really doesn't care about the subject or his misapplication thereof....it's all about trying to make you say something. i know you won't bite though.
shawn..not finding wmd IN iraq and there having BEEN wmd in iraq are two different things. pull your head out. breathe in.
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
lol ppb
January 20, 2009 - 22:44 ET by shawn228still upset about the harmless 4x4 comment, so you wanted to bud in and ad fuel to the fire.
I asked a reasonable question, your just trying to stir up trouble caus you can. Whatever dude.
He had my vote
I don't despise liberals Shawn,
January 20, 2009 - 22:44 ET by cocodrieI don't despise liberals Shawn, I despise twisting words and facts. Saddam had 'em and used 'em.
Why do you hate President Bush SOOOOO much?
Jesus Loves You
I don't hate President Bush cocodrie
January 20, 2009 - 22:49 ET by shawn228In fact I thanked him on the open thread the other day for keeping me safe for 7 years.
I'm not twisting words, its pretty simple. I said the Bush adminstration said there were no WMD and you implied that was false, I provided a link and proved you wrong.
If your not going to answer the question, then so be it.
He had my vote
You mean Reagan will be
January 20, 2009 - 09:59 ET by danboYou mean Reagan will be cursed for bringing the downfall of the peaceful Soviets. And the poor defenseless Sandinista.
Limited Disclosure: I used to belong to the Sierra Club untill they went crazier. Worse of all, I was bribed by Exxon with free New Orleans Saints glasses with fill ups in the 70's.
No: Obama's Groupies Are Delusional
January 20, 2009 - 09:00 ET by The Smokin FrogObama is presenting himself to us as this great uniter. Even Republicans are falling for the swoon. But the lies that Obama, and every other Democrat for that matter, blasted us with during the campaign has never been taken back, or apologized for. False charges were leveled by Obama's people at Republican crowds. None have been retracted. I really never expected that they would. Because Obama is a very 'typical' politician. He is not better than everyone else. He is not the great uniter, unless you want to sell out Conservatism like our squishy Republican media folks already have. But he is far more 'typical' than anyone before him. It is as if he was trained in deception and manipulation.
He has a is a great facade of reaching out. But his words are the same. Vacuous at best, socialist whenever he reaches a substantive level.
To answer you question: No! Bush Derangement Syndrome will not end in light of the fact that his groupies, and that is apparently most of the country at this time, live in a delusion. They can't analyze thoughts and words objectively any longer. Delusions are hard to get out of. They 'feel' real. BDS will continue and will be attributed to everyone who does not approve of all things Obama.
We will be the odd men and women out. We may even be outlawed.
TSF Protests!
HMMMMMMMM
January 20, 2009 - 09:12 ET by rick007De Ja Vue The U.S. in 2009 remindes me of Germany in the 1930's.
Ever notice how the "O" Dumbo corronation resembles Hitlers rise in the 30's?
Buy more Ammo now.
"BDS" - A Misnomer
January 20, 2009 - 09:23 ET by SmartypantsI believe the term Bush Derangement Syndrome is a true misnomer, because this really is Republican Derangement Syndrome we are seeing. The focus is on Bush becuase he is the effective leader of the party right now, the focal point that draws the wrath of liberals. This could have just as easily been labeled "Reagan Derangement Syndrome" or "Cheney Derangement Syndrome," or even "Gingrich Derangement Syndrome".
Democrats need to discredit the opposition party at all costs, primarily because their ideas simply do not stand up to scrutiny. By foisting labels and empty criticism on Republicans, and with the help of their mainstream media allies, Democrats have effectively neutered the Republican party. (Sure, Republicans may have helped out in may ways but the media and the Dems have taken the criticism to an absurd level.)
It is not the Republican party that refused to support our troops even while they are overseas in battle; it is not the Republicans who declared the war lost while we had boots on the ground taking fire; it is not the Republicans who nixed Social Security reform, declaring that the system was just fine; it is not the Republicans who nixed reform of Fannie Maie and Freddie Mac, while taking large campaign donations from these very organizations; it is not the Republicans who have stood in the way of energy independence, increasing our need for foreign sources of oil and further jeopardizing economic independence; it is not a Republican who attempted to sell a U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder, and then "lived" to appoint someone to the office anyway; it is not Republicans who completey failed in evacuating New Orleans prior to a major hurricane and it is not Republicans who misappropriated funds designated for levy improvements and it is not Republicans who adamantly refused to request federal help until it was too late for that city's people; it is not a Repubican who was caught shoving highly classified documents, relating to national defense, down his pants--and then later admitted to destroying some of those documents--in the midst of an investigation on the breakdowns that led to 9/11. This list could go on and on, and yet the media and Dems have been complicit in brandishing Republicans as the "culture of corruption" or as incompetent or heartless. Much of the American population has been brainwashed into believing this rotgut story, including some conservatives! I mean, really, we're talking about a bunch of people who have convinced millions that Bush really did "steal" the 2000 election with the help of the Supreme Court! These same voices tried to paint Reagan as an idiot warmonger; portrayed Ford as a bumbling fool and Newt Gingrich as just plain dangerous. They even aimed their swords at their former friend, John McCain, once he got in the way of their chosen one.
No, this has nothing to do with Bush Derangement Syndrome. The left does not like any Republican, unless that person is railing against his own party. Republicans will always be undermined by the mainstream press, as long as that press is controlled by partisan zealots as it has been to this point.
Obama Comparison Derangement syndrome has begun (OCD)
January 20, 2009 - 11:31 ET by ekslibReporters are trying to outdo each other in comparing Obama to their heroes - Lincoln, Sully, FDR and JFK.
You beat me to it...
January 20, 2009 - 11:56 ET by taocpaI was going to say something similar....
The media worship and idolization of this man is insane. It reminds me of the giddy schoolgirls who go bonkers over "Hannah Montana". At least she as some talent.
Tom
You're kidding, right? No. Not a chance.
January 20, 2009 - 13:38 ET by CKA in Red State USAIt will get worse, the worse Obama performs. After all, the party of irresponsibility will never accept what it does, unless it's good for them, not us.
BDS will go away!
January 20, 2009 - 21:11 ET by MightyMouth...to be replaced with BBS: Blame Bush Syndrome!
And that will be in effect as long as Obama fails...
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...