O'Reilly and Van Susteren Heatedly Debate Cameron's Palin Story

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Fox News personalities Bill O'Reilly and Greta Van Susteren got into a heated debate on the former's radio program Monday concerning whether or not Carl Cameron should have reported gossip about Sarah Palin last Wednesday that emanated from unnamed McCain campaign staffers.

Van Susteren felt that since these sources refused to be named or stand up and make their accusations in front of the camera, their assertions were basically "schoolyard trash."

O'Reilly felt Cameron's report was valid because the folks he spoke to were "primary sources."

Audio of this interesting difference of opinion between two colleagues with great respect for one another is available below the fold courtesy our dear friend Johnny Dollar (file photo): 

Something readers should take away from this incident is how much it disproves the view by most liberals that Fox News is just an echo chamber for Republican talking points.

After all, if that were the case, Fox wouldn't have aired Cameron's report nor would two of its leading personalities be debating its value on national radio.

Alas, such logic will certainly elude folks on the left won't it?


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O'Reilly makes me nauseous

BigSpoon65

I cannot stand to watch "The Factor" anymore.  Bill has become his own biggest fan.  So much so that he nows pimps himself as the only voice of conservatives that matters.  His attacks on Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin only serve to prove my point.  According to him he is the only one looking out for you as he continually slides in and out of infomercials to sell his latest book.  I don't even consider him a conservative.  He falls into the same category as George Will, blue blood Washington elitist looking out for his own pompous ass!  I have sworn myself off of all television news media for the next 4 years.  I will get all my news from the internet and through my 2 favorite talk radio shows, Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin.  O'Reilly and Obama both make me nauseous!    

Winston Churchill ~ "Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy."

sad but true

O'Reilly comes from a 'journalism' background that's embarassing (Inside Edition), and he's barely even a fair-weather conservative. If a guest lavishes praise on him he's quite willing to say anything to get more of the same.

I wouldn't lump him with the ilk of the neocons or RINOs, he's in the Bill O'Reilly party. I find it amusing to watch him boast about beating all the major networks and CNN with his Factor, which must stick in the craw of the MSM, but his ego is a bit hard to take more than once a week.

Agreed. The show used to be

Agreed. The show used to be good, but Bill thinks he's smarter than he really is.  First of all, I don't ever give a crap what O'Reilly has to say, yet he always ALWAYS talks over and cuts off his guests, who are much more interesting and informed than he is.

He also is no conservative...he bends over backwards to try and be "fair" but ends up being slightly leftly tilted as well (now he wants major regulation of wall street, the bailout, etc)

And lastly, I agree, all he does is shill for his frigging books and merchandise...I don't mind he sells it, but NOT ON A SHOW!

 I don't watch him anymore, other than an exercise in masochism when nothing else is on (same with Hannity and Colmes...*shudder*)

Face it Bill, what Cameron

Face it Bill, what Cameron repeated on your show was gossip disguised as news. "Anonymous sources say..." give me a break. I understand you want to defend the integrity of your "no-spin zone", but this was a mistake to air on your show.

Sadly, you are correct. 

Sadly, you are correct.  In the old days, when journalists had ethics, the story was more important than the source.

In the old days that my journo profs in the 80's endlessly prattled on about, if a journalist listed an unnamed source for his story, every other journalist from competing organizations immediately went on a rampage to find out who was the source.

 This stopped, as best as I can tell, during the Watergate affair when journalists seemed not to care about sourcing from Woodstein and Bernward.  They all performed some low level "I think the source is X" reporting, but no one followed either of those two journalists and badgered them to release the information.  No one interviewed Woodward when he tried to pitch a book and did not let him off the set until he told them the answer.

Leakers? THey subsequently exploded when it became well known that anyone who spoke to the press would be covered for as long as it made a conservative squirm.

Instead of journalistic ethics, today we have the "Professional Courtesy" of sharks as long as the sharks only eat conservatives.

Anonymous Source

Yeah, quoting anonymous sources is a bad move in pretty much any case. Maybe you can use them as leads, but if it's unverifiable, never just run with it. Just leads to huge embarassments like these.

Problem w/Cameron's Report

I can appreciate Carl's reporting on this story.  What bothers me is he apparently ran with it, based on his source's input, and didn't try to confirm what he heard.  He certainly knew who the players in the room during Palin's briefing.  Why not call one, two or three of them to get the sense that what he was hearing could be confirmed.

 

Smitten

Greta was smitten by both Palins during the campaign. So were millions of Americans. They are the real American family. They are America's story, or what's left of it. They and millions like them are the real "hope" for this nation (the only hope left). They are not Chicago Marxist thugs. They are not the pretenders and liars who will be in seats of power for at least four years.They are America. O'Reilly is just annoyed that Sarah didn't come on his show. His ego is matched only by his gall. I, too, will no longer watch his hour-long advertisment for his books and his friends or watch while he denegrates any opposing point of view with his infamous "kool-aid" comment. He has gone the way of Geraldo, a once good reporter morphed into a supreme egotist. Sad. Money is truly the root of all evil.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Well the truth is...

Most reporters are whores. They go any way where popular consensus is. They find actual facts "too boring". Also, TV is mostly set up for flash and bang anyways.

I'd take internet and Talk Radio over this.

Greta seems to be a good person. Even though I heard she's liberal, she's willing to give everyone a fair shake it seems.

“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill

and... I have watched

and...

I have watched her for years, long before she ever went on Fox...she is a lib, but she has always been fair and balanced...CNN really put her over the edge with her half hour show she finally got, telling her how she had to portray, present it with the format ect...I wondered how her show would be on Fox, the first show her and Morris went after each other...she has done just fine since...especially when it comes to politics IMO.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Cameron

Truth is that Carl Cameron was "had" nothing he got was true, just malicious gossip designed to do just what it did, get reported on the front page and denied on page 23b

 

 

VOTE REPUBLICAN 

The real story SHOULD have

The real story SHOULD have been "Former McCain aides X, Y, and Z are attempting to anonymously spear Palin for the following reasons."

That would have been a Story.

But Cameron went with the easy story.

we got a lotta disproof on

we got a lotta disproof on all kinds of moonbat BS - doesn't seem to matter tho

Carl has some 'splaining to do

Was the intent of his report on The Factor to show a) that anonymous staffers were smearing Palin with false rumors or was it b) that Palin is an idiot? (edit: I should have added that Greta said Carl told her that his story did not come across the way he intended to report it. Carl needs to set the story straight.)

If it was the former, he did a poor job portraying this because he didn't report that others "in the room" had a different opinion. If it was the latter, then he succeeded brilliantly because now the general public believes that Palin did not know that Africa is a continent, just like they believe she said that she could see Alaska from her house (even though she never said this).

The Axis of Taxes: Obama, Pelosi and Reid (source unknown)

I hope she wasn't lying about that

I hope she can see Alaska from her house. I think you meant the SNL spoof that has Tina Fey claiming she can see Russia from her house. In fact that's possible from many parts of Alaska but I've never found a source quoting such a comment from Palin and it would hardly qualify her on foreign policy on it's own so I doubt she would have said it. She does in fact have two foreign countries as neighbors but it is still a weak foreign policy background. Just nowhere near as weak as a less-than-one-term US Senator who doesn't even know how many states his own country possesses. People get the leaders they deserve so the next 4 years will be interesting.

d'oh! jf - thanks for the catch

(yikes, and I already edited my comment once!)

btw, Palin did say that you can see Russia from Alaska - I believe she said this in her interview with Gibson.

The Axis of Taxes: Obama, Pelosi and Reid (source unknown)

well she was right

I believe that what she said was that you can see Russia from some parts of Alaska - which is true.  She never said you could see Russia from her backyard.  That would be like saying you can see New Mexico from Galveston.

Bill O'Reilly, Carl

Bill O'Reilly, Carl Cameron and FoxNews blew it on this one. They temporarily shoved good journalistic standards out the window for a juicy scoop on Gov. Palin - proven to produce a rattings bonanza.

Greta Van Susteren busted him red-handed: It's gossip and schoolyard trash.   

Bill is just trying to

Bill is just trying to blackmail Gov. Palin into appearing on his show. Greta is calling his hand on this and he knows he screwed up. Bill is a mile wide and an inch thick.

I don't watch it, but from

I don't watch it, but from clicking by, CNN's Headline News "Show Biz Tonight" has become the garbage dump for trashing Sarah Palin and "discussing" all scurrilous rumors that come oozing up from the drain. They're such cowards that they try to give themselves cover by using an "entertainment show" to cover their dirty deeds.

What does Gov. Palin have

What does Gov. Palin have to do with Show Biz or entertainment, other than their own self-entertainment with trash. 

You're right, it's just a not-so-fancy cover for sleazy gossip.

Like Jon Stewart uses "fake news show" as his license to spew his garbage.

mother belt,I know. I

mother belt,

I know. I don't understand how they can justify covering politics on an entertainment show, unless it's of an entertainer engaging in political activity. AJ Hammer is as shallow and sleazy of a host as they come - all smirking and mocking towards Palin and brown nosing Hollywood celebrities. I guess CNN took a cue from the Washington Post, which uses their "Style" section for bitchy and petty attacks against Republicans. 

 

I am confused about this entire story...

Yesterday NB said it was a hoax. I watched Fox all last night and did not hear one thing about a hoax. Even during Greta's interview it never came up. I know it was recorded but she was going live before the breaks. What is the real story here? Did someone actually talk to Carl K. or did he read it on the hoaxers blog? I'm not getting this one???

 

"I need more cowbell!" SNL

 I'm not going to go into

 I'm not going to go into it all.

Go here.

 

Yea its a little disheartning

I've heard no one other than the article that appears on this site, charging or saying Cameron "might" have been the victim of a hoaxer. Thats pulled out of thin air.

I don't think Cameron should be trashing someone over gossip with unnamed sources. But its another thing entirely to plant the idea that he "might" have been taken in by a hoaxer when its apparent the author WAS taken in by a hoaxer.

I really hate to be a stickler, but this site is supposed to be the good guys.

I look at Carl

in a different light now.

It was his facial expression while reporting the Palin story that turned me off.

He was giddy and almost gleefull at his "breaking news" story.

I found it pathetic poor slop!

I will hear him very differently from now on.

 

just sayin

 

Delsa,I've noticed that

Delsa,

I've noticed that Carl Cameron is one of those people, like Sen. Richard Luger, who always seems to be smiling, no matter how serious a matter they're discussing. I don't know if it's it's a physical oddity they can't help or just a bad habit, but it's annoying and cringe inducing.

Lester Holt is like that

Lester Holt is like that too. 

Chris Norman

I don't think so - I think Carl looks half asleep or on sedatives most of the time.  In this situation, he was wide awake and gleeful.  He almost couldn't get his words out straight in his haste to spill the beans.  Greta is dead right - it is school yard gossip.  Where was the news in this?  If there was news, did he try to confirm it with others?  Did he go to Gov. Palin to get her response? No, he hurried to air the "gossip" without doing his job as a journalist.

Carl is sorry now because plenty of people want his sorry rear end out of there.  As the viewers of Fox are generally Palin supporters, who is going to give this guy any kind of credibility in the future?  

Going to Greta to pass on his regrets was lowlife stupid.  He should have the journalistic integrity to go back onto the same shows (I know of both O'Reilly and Fox News (Smith)) and apologise in those forums himself.  It makes it worse that he is trying to hide behind the only journalist at Fox who had the class to stop the gossip in its tracks and call it for what it was.

If you watched Greta last night - Palin did address these issues and did so with credibility.  It made it pretty clear that she had been set up from the get-go.  The truly interesting thing is that it appears to have solidified support behind her.  It was bad enough when the attacks came from the other side but when it comes from within, the attacker will end up being shunned.  I think it is Red States that has started Operation Leper - listing those Republicans responsible for slandering Palin.  

 

Wasn't excusing him. Just

Wasn't excusing him. Just observing that he's a "smiler"

This is exactly why I can't

This is exactly why I can't even think of Carl Cameron without getting mad anymore.  While reporting this trash, especially the fake "towel" incident (which at the time was a "bathrobe"), he looked ecstatic.  That made my stomach turn.

O'Reilly's defense of Cameron is indicative of where he stands.

Exactly.  He was almost

Exactly.  He was almost orgasmic and couldn't get the words out fast enough. 

He used to be the political reporter for the Manchester, NH news station when I was in high school...he was much better then.  Now he tries to be all sensational and exciting about everything.


But he blew it big time with this!

FOX journalism

"its gossip!"

"is not"

"is too"

"is not"

"is too"

"you know i love you"

"i love you more, but... is not!"

"is too"

...

noel, i appreciate you raising this issue. i take no pleasure in seeing conservatives cannibalize themselves. this kind of slip-shot "journalism" is not unusual for bill o'reilly. its a well known fact that he plays fast and loose with the facts. it might be news to folks on the right, but the conservative viewers tend to be more forgiving when its a left-leaning person who is being skewered by mr o'reilly.

please don't mistake his (occasional? regular?) lack of journalistic integrity with no longer being conservative. it is interesting how when he points his loose cannon at someone on the right suddenly he isn't a conservative.

he's ego-centric and needs to fill a lot of time, for cheap, on a 24 news channel. and its unacceptable for him to call himself a journalist no matter who is at the sharp end of his stick. 

AbeautifulPerson:  Please

AbeautifulPerson:

 Please list events in which O'Reilly "Played fast and loose with the facts."

want a list? here are a couple...

http://mediamatters....

this one is brilliant.

bill threatens canadian journalist with lies about the success of the french boycott:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbX-2X7_h-M

bill is busted by paul krugman making up stories.

http://www.youtube.c...

bill pontificates (badly) while playing VERY fast and loose. this is NOT journalism.

http://www.youtube.c...

and as much as you might think olbermann is a big blowhard, (and yes he is), he nails billow ALL THE TIME.

honestly, for anyone to actually think that o'reilly is some kind of journalist with integrity is a joke that isn't funny. and if anyone doesn't believe me, they can: SHUT UP... (sorry, i don't really want anyone to shut up, but i couldn't resist). 

want more examples, go to youtube and type "o'reilly" and "lies". you'll be entertained for hours. 

 

 

  

 

 

 

Why would anyone in their

Why would anyone in their right mind go to an extreme leftist, virulently partisan and hate filled website called Media Matters?

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

i knew you'd say that

and the rest of the examples? try not to be too predictable by glossing over all samples and automatically dismissing everything, instantly without viewing any of it.

way to go.

jack you're right... just like a broken clock is twice a day. 

I could care less about

I could care less about Bill O'Reilly. The guy isn't a conservative and I find his self-promotion tiresome. 

But as you alreay know that no conservative is going to take the virulently partisan, Soros funded MM seriously, why would you bother to provide a link that will not be used.

Talk about redundant.

And as for the "clock" crack. Sheesh, can't you come up with anything remotely original as opposed to that hackneyed phrase? Boooooring.

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

Was thinking the same

Was thinking the same thing...as soon as I saw the links were from media matters, I discredited 100% his argument.

AbeautifulPerson: As you

AbeautifulPerson:

As you will recall, I do not chase links. Please in your own words, describe what Bill O'Reilly said and how it was either annacurate or incorrect.

Ummmm...Sherlock?

Even a tad bit of research on this site would tell you that most conservatives here would place you and Bill in the same category. Look at ME, ME, MEEEEE! It's a well known fact that neither of you are conservative or very useful and definitely not looking out for us. The only reason for O'Reilly's high ratings is the fact that when he skewers someone on the left, he is likely the only one doing it. Conservative shish-ka-bobs are standard fare at ALL of the other outlets. We like balance in our diets, even if we dislike the chef.

 

No representation, without taxation!

that's the problem with the far right

they thing everything left of them is actually left.

Conervatives and

Conervatives and conservatism is not "far right."

But that's the problem with leftists. Everything to the right of the cancer of socialism is "far right."

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

ya got me

i have no idea what a Conervative is.

That's not true, abp.

I thing you do know.

 

No representation, without taxation!

okay i'm busted.

but i honestly thought that typo was some kind of secret conservative handshake. only because it was done twice.

 

I'll add that subject to the

I'll add that subject to the long list of things you have no idea about.

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

I believe the gifted one...

...was taking a shot at your spelling. Which I found quite ironic.

You are still correct in adding it to your list. abp is saddly lacking insight on a host of subjects relating to conservative values.

 

No representation, without taxation!

karma -- when one is

karma -- when one is reduced to posting about typos on a fast moving blog -- BIG DEAL.

Beside I just landed myself with the worst keyboard ever. It's a Microsoft Ergonomic (sic) 4000.

Has to be designed by someone who hates computers.  Or maybe just hates me.

My old Remington mechanical typewriter was more ergonomic than this hideous piece of plastic excrement.

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

Thanks Jack.

My chuckle at abp just turned into a good laugh! 

 

No representation, without taxation!

i'd suggest you buy a mac but...

... i am sure you have an opinion on the type of people who use those.

btw, i am still laughing about the typo's.

A/ i missed my typo on proofing

B/ i really thought that was a term used by masons or skull and bones or the bilderbergers or whatever. (haha)

it was the usage twice that threw me.

oh and on the subject of o'reilly. i just watched him interview obama. you might hate what obama stands for, but man he handled that interview very well. o'reilly was really tough on him and obama was extremely graceful.

Gaceful?

 but man he handled that interview very well. o'reilly was really tough on him and obama was extremely graceful.

 And never answered a question

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

GC... But he was graceful

GC...

But he was graceful while not answering any Q's.

That's all that matters to nim-rods.

Soldiers Dissed By Obama Liberals

 

 Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

Exactly.  Thus, any "true"

Exactly.  Thus, any "true" Democrat, like Lieberman, is being run out of the party for being too "extreme"...when the middle is defined as Stalin/Hitler/Mao/Castro, even Bill Clinton is a right-wing radical!

You are sorely mistaken, as usual

Bill O'Reilly is NOT a conservative.  Although he takes the conservative side on some issues (national security for example) he is very liberal on other issues.  BOR often states he's a registered Independent for this reason.

Secondly, BOR would be the first to tell you he's no longer a journalist, which he originally was, unlike Chris Matthews who states he IS a journalist, whose job it is to promote the success of his Lord and Saviour, The One.

So while you can come here and sling around whatever talking points and blather you'd like, you might want to try backing up your statements with some evidence for a change.  If you can find an article by, or video of BOR, within the last three years, stating he either is (or was) a conservative (not conservative on one issue) or a journalist, I'll publicly apologize to you.  Otherwise, take your talking points elsewhere.

Just so you know, I think BOR is a puffed up piece of work, who showed absolutely no judgement in airing this piece.  But your lies and talking points don't fly.  We have an old saying here....link or slink.  I'm betting you'll slink. 

 

watch the video

he refers to himself as a journalist in the related video.

i'm not interested in your apology and i'm not going anywhere.

bill screwed up AGAIN. check my above links.

i won't tell you to get lost, don't tell me. 

BOR was referring

to his background, as Greta referred to herself as both a journalist and a lawyer.  BOR routinely says he's a commentator and not a reporter, which was my point. 

Did I say get lost?  Nope, didn't think so.

 

yes, o'reilly DOES think he is a journalist

1:46 into the interview with obama he calls himself a >gasp< journalist.

see for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5rfc54il6Q 

abp...CBS???

CBS and Rathergate. Enough said. 

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

Bill O'Reilly is just a jerk.

What a joke he is. Nothing but a blowhard. Haven't listened to him in years.

Sounds like he is Fox's Keith. 

 

Bill is Busted

Kudos to Greta!  She's absolutely right - unconfirmed, anonymous sources equate to schoolyard rubbish and gossip.  Hey, Bill, maybe your willingness to air this gossip is why Sarah Palin chooses to be interviewed by Greta and refuses to appear on your show.  Greta is showing herself more and more to be objective, fair, and level-headed.  Bill O'Reilly is becoming more and more insufferable - his arrogance and constant self-promotion are why I no longer watch his show.

Ego trumps inegrity.

O'Reily spent the last 60 days of the campaign tap-dancing around the factual nature of Obamas radical ideology, past associations and lack of accomplishment.

The great "culture warrior" caved and failed to take a real stand.  Many of his "moderate-undecided" listeners never saw the sham Obama represented and voted for "change".

Thanks Bill, great job.

Obama's Advent Calendar

I agree - Bill had this weird 25 Days of Obama.  I figured it was probably the price for having Obama on his show.  Each day he would cover some controversial facet of Obama's life - alternating pro and con Obama commentators.  What I noticed is that he generally agreed with the supporters and disagreed with the non-supporters. It stopped long before the 25 days were up - maybe when he realized that he was helping Obama get elected? 

25 Days of Obama

Yes I recall this iiii. Pitched it heavily until he got his TV interview with BO. I don't remember listening to many of them but it's not hard to imagine how they went.

He's got a four-year deal for something like $12mil and my guess is he just didn't want to rock the money boat by taking a sharp position. He let "traditional values" take one in the chops instead.

BTW, glad you found NB. I think there are a few Austin residents as regulars here so you're not alone down there. I'm in MN but from what I read Austin is hostile territory for conservatives. Stay safe/sane.

thanks

I lived in Los Angeles until three years ago and got used to having to watch my back big time.  While Austin likes to think of itself as liberal, it doesn't begin to compare to what I've dealt with in the past.  My husband says it's a wanna be city.  I ask - what does it wanna be? He says - "something, anything - it's trying (without success) to find a claim to fame."

My icky, nasty, uber-liberal brother was on O'Reilly once.  He is a musician who likes to think he is smarter than the rest of us.  He was a complete dolt and thought he had "gunned" O'Reilly down.  In all honesty, O'Reilly was polite to him - probably thinking it would be cruel to tear apart someone who was not very bright :) 

So... O'Reilly has good and bad moments - being able to watch and judge which are which is an art form.

 

"...uber-liberal brother..."

Youch! Bet those holiday get-togethers are fun. :-) What is it with some musicians anyway? Brilliant on the one hand, clueless on the other.

Spent a week in Austin few years back. Brother in tech industry; we saw the really nice parts. Never been to LA. At mid life I'm not planning on making an effort. Hollywood has shown me enough.

Most of California is beautiful - and conservative

If you ever go, just avoid the big cities (San Diego, San Francisco, and Los Angeles) and you'll enjoy yourself.

This officially settles it

Bill O'Reilly is an idiot.

Another Nail

I used to watch BO on a somewhat regular basis but I've lost 90% of any respect I have for most of his opinions.  When he makes a mistake, he defends himself with hard-headedness and just repeats his flawed position over and over.

He had a big diatribe about how he has lost a lot money in the stock market and he now realizes that the stock market is a "rigged game".  His bashing of oil companies and how they were making "too much money" about six months also was populist idocy.

The more I watch Greta, however, the more I respect the way she aproaches issues and forms her discussion.

Neal Cavuto Was Right, BO'R is WRONG

His bashing of oil companies and how they were making "too much money" about six months also was populist idocy.

I don't have time to search it, but Neal Cavuto lashed O'Reilly but good when he vilified oil executives who supposedly were jacking up gas prices when market circumstances didn't demand it.  Cavuto gave BO'R Supply & Demand 101, to which Bill replied "BULL!" and stuck to his guns while Cavuto told him he was shooting blanks. 

I wonder if O'Reilly cringes when he fills up his vehicle and sees how little he's paying for gas now.  I can't wait for Cavuto's next appearance -- if he is invited again.

BTW, Bill's targeting of GE is irritating too.  Yeah, Immelt has a lot to answer for, but I doubt BO'R would care so much if GE didn't own MSNBC. 

OTOH, he did make sense when he took Geraldo to task for blaming McCain's loss on the GOP base that is against illegal immigration.  Geraldo said McCain couldn't shake the "anti-Spanish" (yeah, he said "Spanish") image of Republicans, but O'Reilly replied that McCain was no part of that, and that Geraldo should have used his bully pulpit to point that out instead of tarring McCain with his anti-GOP brush.

"Well, I've got nothing against the press...they wouldn't print it if it wasn't true..." -- Joe Jackson, "Sunday Papers"

Excellent point, Smithee

I'd forgotten that beautiful moment when Cavuto had BOR melting down on the air.   It was a classic, so thanks!

With Brit Hume shortly to retire, perhaps it's time for Fox to revamp their entire line up, although I doubt they'd dump BOR, due to his ratings.

I truly wish Fox would permanently remove Greta from the missing girl circuit.  Greta has proved over this election season that she's got great credibility with the people she interviews.  And she truly is a good interviewer, I remember a segment she did at Whiteman AFB on the B-2 bomers that was unbelievable informative.   Greta is far too talented (even with that grating voice) to waste on dead girls.   Alas, I digress.

Secondly, I'd like to see a couple of other Fox staff replace, oh say, Sheppard Smith, Geraldo, and Sean Hannity.  I'd like to see Megyn Kelly with a bigger role, she's incredibly bright and doesn't let anyone get away with talking points.  Bring Michelle Malkin back.  I'd also like to see Jennifer Griffin more often, and I'd love to see Neil Cavuto with a bigger role than he currently has.

I won't even mention the unwatchable F&F.

 

 

Not just Neil

regarding oil prices: O'Reilly interviewed a former NYSE official (perhaps a deputy chairman? sorry I can't remember his name) and summarily dismissed his knowledgeable comments on how the oil market works. (Haven't seen that guy return as a guest.)

The Axis of Taxes: Obama, Pelosi and Reid (source unknown)

What's the chance

Whats the chance that FOX will give Glenn Beck, BOR time slot, and put BOR on, ohh I dont know, maybe... after 'Red Eye' lol
I watched BOR last night only to see how he would 'squirm' out of this/his mistake. I also wanted to see Glenn Beck. When BOR brought up Palin, as much as he tried to get Glenn to agree with him, Glenn tried his best to respectfully disagree. AND, did anyone notice the little 'barb' that BOR gave Glenn before it was done? GOD!! I HATE BOR.

O'Reilly vs. Glenn Beck

I have to think that O'Reilly is a little wary of Beck.  Beck's funnier in one show than Bill has been cumulatively throughout his career, and he's got a superior radio show.

I found O'Reilly's line of questioning about Palin interesting, asking if she has "gravitas" sufficient to run for President.  Hey, she's already done stuff as Governor -- what good is "gravitas" if you're an empty suit at best, or a stealth socialist at worst?

"Well, I've got nothing against the press...they wouldn't print it if it wasn't true..." -- Joe Jackson, "Sunday Papers"

Mr. O'R has, mho, shown

Mr. O'R has,imho shown a proclivity for the "sensational: in some segmnts. {alf clad gals} and is way too defensive about his "theory" that Smilin'Carl had real news. He didn't, and now he's proclaiming an innocence. BTW, has anyone seen Cameron since?

O'Reilly is not a

O'Reilly is not a conservative, never has been. I doubt if he's even a Republican.

And he is an irritating blowhard lots of times -- like most people on TV news.

But he does send his long-suffering minnions to confront the grating and the bad.

No one else doorstepped Terrorist Bill Ayers, except the O'Reilly Factor.

That was priceless to see a shit who hates "the man," who bombed "the man" calling the cops to complain about a reporter "trespassing" on his private property.

You know, the private property Ayers wants to appropriate being the commie/Marxist he is.

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

Jack, my friend..

O'Reilly is everything you say, and I might add, a "Catholic". By the way, "conservative" is the antonym of that.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

I am also in agreement

BOR doesnt bother me much, because of some of the more importaint work he does for the Kids and Media Bias. I do not mind his arogance, who else is doing it?  

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

 Bill O'Reilly thinks that

 Bill O'Reilly thinks that all the worlds problems can be solved by the might power of his logic if only people would just come and be graced with his opinion.  I have said it before and I will say it again : the day he interviewed Obama the stage should have collapsed from the weight of their egos.

 

member of the Conservative Independant Witness Protection Program since Nov. 5, 2008

FAIR AND UNBALANCED

I AGREE; BOR SHOULD CO-HOST ON MSNBC WITH

KO AND FOX GIVE GLEN THE 8-9 SLOT AND HE

WOULD HANDLE IT MUCH BETTER THAN THE EGO-

MANIAC. O'REILLY HAS BEEN SITTING ON THE FENCE

EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE FACTOR,

EXCEPT WHEN HE FINDS A WEAKLING LIKE BARNEY

WHO HE CAN TRASH WHILE HE KEEPS HIS EYES

ON THE CAMERA AND JABS HIS FINGER AT HIM.

I FOR ONE AM TIRED, AS A CONSERVATIVE, OF

BEING CALLED PART OF THE FAR RIGHT BY THIS

BOZO WHO LACKS THE CLASS TO BE CALLED FAIR

AND BALANCED.

"NOBODY PUTS ONE OVER ON FRED C DOBBS"

B.TRAVEN

"NOBODY PUTS ONE OVER ON

"NOBODY PUTS ONE OVER ON FRED C DOBBS"

No -- he put one over on himself. One of Bogey's best movies. Great stuff. 

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

O'Reilly Unplugged

Bill O'Reilly was trying to defend himself in his conversation with Greta and he showed himself to be a hard head and had egg on his face.  I am a viewer of Fox News and no other news agency.  Greta was absolutely correct in her handling of this subject.  I cannot wait till Glenn Beck is on Fox News.  He is our favorite and I have no doubt that he will beat O'Reilly in ratings.  O'Reilly is just too pompous and arrogant!

Hi Janetta, Glenn will be

Hi Janetta,

Glenn will be a very welcome addition to Fox News Channel. I just wish Neil Cavuto and Glenn would get the best time slots. I respect and admire both of them.

 

No representation, without taxation!

Must see TV  O'Reilly's

Must see TV

 O'Reilly's head exploding on live television when he finds Greta's ratings pass his.

No Bloviating

I would find the study of mold spores more interesting.

Winston Churchill ~ "Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy."

If anyone with brains uses

If anyone with brains uses them, they will not go on BOR's show.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

This is payback for Palin's dis of "The Factor"

O'Reilly is pissed off at Palin for not going on his show.  Like a vindictive little kid, he ran with the story as pay-back.  And now he's spinning wildly and packaging himself as totally right and above board.  He's also angling it back on Cameron--"If anyone's to blame it's Carl and not me.  But Carl is good reporter."  I can't stand watching this guy anymore.  He's a joke.

no more o'reilly for me i

no more o'reilly for me

i was disappointed to see glenn beck appear on his show last night. maybe he's just doing the rounds before his show goes on the air.

i'd like to see laura ingraham quit o'reilly's show and appear on beck's new show.

Maybe the "talking points" have evaporated, Noel

After the election, the in-fighting among Republicans obviously IS of interest to FOX New's main audience.

What Republican Party?

And don't try to pretend that the Democrat party does not have more than its fair share of talking points. I haven't read so many party slogans and so much bumper sticker material since I read 'Life and Death in Shanghai'.

With the Republican Party not changing its elected leadership we can only expect it to dwindle in significance unless they produce a strong party leader from outside of Washington Politics.

Greata's not a conservative

Greata is not a conservative.  Nor is Bill.

She called him on this one--she could not help it--anything for ratings, and this time, she was right.  It was the attorney in her who, like me, cannot let a good cross-examination go.  She had to nail Bill on this one.