AP's Racist Poll: If Obama Loses It's Because He's Black

Photo of Noel Sheppard.

UPDATE at end of post: Polling agency VIPs have contributed to Democrats including Obama.

Are you getting tired of the mainstream media meme that if you're white and you don't vote for Barack Obama it's because you're a racist? Or that if John McCain wins, it's because he's white and Obama isn't?

Well, on Saturday, the Associated Press and Yahoo News released results of a new poll, and the major take by AP writers Ron Fournier and Trevor Thompson was that if Obama loses, it's because of "[d]eep-seated racial misgivings" held by "one-third of white Democrats."

Sadly, like most polls this year claiming to deal with how racism is impacting this campaign, no questions were asked to determine how deep-seated racial misgivings of black Democrats are guiding their choice for president (emphasis added, h/t Hot Air headlines, photo courtesy CBSTV):

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Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent," responsible for their own troubles.

The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 — about two and one-half percentage points. [...]

More than a third of all white Democrats and independents — voters Obama can't win the White House without — agreed with at least one negative adjective about blacks, according to the survey, and they are significantly less likely to vote for Obama than those who don't have such views.

Such numbers are a harsh dose of reality in a campaign for the history books. Obama, the first black candidate with a serious shot at the presidency, accepted the Democratic nomination on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech, a seminal moment for a nation that enshrined slavery in its Constitution.

"There are a lot fewer bigots than there were 50 years ago, but that doesn't mean there's only a few bigots," said Stanford political scientist Paul Sniderman who helped analyze the exhaustive survey.

That might be so, by why did the study only address how the prejudices of whites are impacting the campaign while totally ignoring how racist feelings by blacks are entering the equation?

For instance, take a look at the following question from this poll (emphasis added):

CQ7. How much do you know about [INSERT NAME OF CANDIDATE, yellow font color]?
[LIST OF CANDIDATES TO INSERT, ASK THEM ALL, RANDOMIZE]

Barack Obama

All Respondents
A great deal 9
A lot 20
A moderate amount 44
A little 22
Nothing at all 6
Refused / Not Answered 0

Whites Only
A great deal 6
A lot 21
A moderate amount 44
A little 22
Nothing at all 6
Refused / Not Answered 0

John McCain
All Respondents
A great deal 8
A lot 19
A moderate amount 45
A little 22
Nothing at all 7
Refused / Not Answered 0

Whites Only
A great deal 6
A lot 21
A moderate amount 47
A little 20
Nothing at all 6
Refused / Not Answered 0

If you were going to break this down by "Whites Only," why not do so for "Blacks Only"? The same could be asked concerning this question that was also broken down by "All Respondents" and "Whites Only," but not "Blacks Only":

CQ9. Does Barack Obama’s relationship with Reverend Jeremiah Wright (his former pastor in Chicago) suggest to you that Mr. Obama would be a better president, a worse president, or suggest nothing to you about how good or bad a president he would be?

And this question:

CQ11. Does the fact that if elected, Barack Obama would be the first black president of the United States make you more likely to vote for him, less likely to vote for him, or does it not affect your vote either way?

And this question:

How often have you felt sympathy for blacks?

In fact, when you look at the above question, why wasn't there a follow-up to ask respondents -- including blacks -- "How often have you felt sympathy for whites?" 

Sadly, there wasn't such a question, nor was there a white counterpart to this question (or a "Blacks Only" response category):

How often have you felt admiration for blacks?

The same was sadly missing from the following question:

How well does each of these words describe most blacks?

Here were the words:

Friendly, Determined to succeed, Law abiding, Hard-working, Intelligent at
school, Smart at everyday things, Good neighbors, Dependable, Keep up their
property, Violent, Boastful, Complaining, Lazy, Irresponsible

Once again, there was no "white" counterpart to this question, nor was there a "Blacks Only" response category.

Why?

Was it only important to AP and Yahoo News to identify white racism and how it might impact the elections? Might it have been embarrassing to some to actually identify and report black racism and how it's impacting the campaign?

Here were some more questions asked about race that included "Whites Only" responses but not "Blacks Only":

Some people say that black leaders have been trying to push too fast. Others feel that they haven’t pushed fast enough. What do you think?

How much of the racial tension that exists in the United States today do you think blacks are responsible for creating?

How much discrimination against blacks do you feel there is in the United States today, limiting their chances to get ahead?

Although all of the things listed below are important for a child to have, which do you think is most important for a child to have?

Which is the next most important for a child to have?

That's a lot of questions to ask about racial issues with absolutely no attention given specifically to how blacks answered them. This seems especially odd given the breakdown of the respondents:

RACE / ETHNICITY
White, Non-Hispanic 69
Black, Non-Hispanic 11
Other, Non-Hispanic 5
Hispanic 13
2+ Races, Non-Hispanic 1

Hmmm. So, eleven percent of respondents were black. Why not specify what their answers were to all of the questions that "Whites Only" responses were highlighted? Wouldn't that be important given the supposed goal of the poll reported in the aforementioned AP piece:

The pollsters set out to determine why Obama is locked in a close race with McCain even as the political landscape seems to favor Democrats. President Bush's unpopularity, the Iraq war and a national sense of economic hard times cut against GOP candidates, as does that fact that Democratic voters outnumber Republicans.

The findings suggest that Obama's problem is close to home — among his fellow Democrats, particularly non-Hispanic white voters. Just seven in 10 people who call themselves Democrats support Obama, compared to the 85 percent of self-identified Republicans who back McCain.

The survey also focused on the racial attitudes of independent voters because they are likely to decide the election.

Doesn't this suggest that the poll was looking to prove a theory established by AP and Yahoo that racism is the reason the election is so close? This seems especially important given a finding in this survey the AP chose not to report:

Would you prefer that the next president be politically conservative, liberal, or moderate?

Conservative 30
Liberal 21
Moderate 47
Refused / Not Answered 2

Wow. So, only 21 percent of respondents wanted the next president to be liberal. Might this be why the the polls are so close right now and NOT racism? Before you answer, consider the ideological breakdown of the respondents:

ID1. Generally speaking, do you consider yourself…
[REVERSE SCALE FOR HALF OF SAMPLE]

Very liberal 6
Somewhat liberal 17
Moderate 43
Somewhat conservative 22
Very conservative 11
Refused / Not Answered 1

PID1. Do you consider yourself a Democrat, Republican, an Independent, a supporter of some other party, or none of these?

Democrat 40
Republican 27
Independent 20
Some other party 1
None of these 11
Refused / Not Answered 1

So, 40 percent of those surveyed considered themselves Democrats, 23 percent felt they were liberal, but only 21 percent wanted a liberal president. Now, look at how these respondents viewed the two candidates:

How liberal, moderate, or conservative do you think [INSERT NAME OF CANDIDATE, yellow font color] is?
[LIST OF CANDIDATES TO INSERT, ASK THEM ALL, RANDOMIZE]
Barack Obama

Extremely conservative 1
Moderately conservative 4
Slightly conservative 5
Moderate 24
Slightly liberal 14
Moderately liberal 23
Extremely liberal 26
Refused / Not Answered 2
John McCain

Extremely conservative 14
Moderately conservative 32
Slightly conservative 18
Moderate 22
Slightly liberal 5
Moderately liberal 4
Extremely liberal 2
Refused / Not Answered 2

So let's add this all up: although 40 percent of the respondents considered themselves Democrats versus 27 percent claiming to be Republicans, only 21 percent wanted a liberal president while 30 percent wanted a conservative.

As 64 percent viewed McCain as conservative, and 63 percent saw Obama as liberal, isn't it just as possible that the right-leaning makeup of the nation regardless of current party affiliation when added to the political differences of these two candidates is why the polls are so close and NOT racism?

Sadly, this seemed to escape the good folks at AP and Yahoo News who seemed more interested in proving a racial cause instead of a purely ideological one.

Taking this a step further, if the nation is indeed more conservative than liberal media members care to address, isn't it also likely that the nomination of the conservative Sarah Palin as McCain's running mate is also a big factor in the recent tightening of the polls?

Oddly, the AP didn't consider this. I guess that's because anyone that would vote for a conservative white woman is probably -- wait for it! -- racist.

*****Update: NBer clifcrds alerted us to a Sweetness & Light post concerning political contibutions made by principals in Knowledge Networks, the firm responsible for taking this AP-Yahoo poll:

GRAHAM, PATRICIA
CHICAGO, IL 60614
KNOWLEDGE NETWORKS/MARKETING

EDWARDS, JOHN
VIA JOHN EDWARDS FOR PRESIDENT

03/28/2007
250.00
27930587973

06/16/2007
250.00
27990245792

06/19/2007
250.00
27990245791

KERRY, JOHN F
VIA JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT INC

07/05/2004
250.00
24962244505

RICKARD, LORNA
DENVER, CO 80211
KNOWLEDGE NETWORK

MOVEON.ORG VOTER FUND

10/24/2003
200.00
27039333829

STREICER, JANET
NEW YORK, NY 10021
KNOWLEDGE NETWORK

NEW YORK STATE DEMOCRATIC COMMITTEE

12/04/2000
250.00
21036874821

VECCIA, E
MENLO PARK, CA 94025
KNOWLEDGE NETWORKS INC./MARKETING

KERRY, JOHN F
VIA JOHN KERRY FOR PRESIDENT INC

07/29/2004
300.00
24962258772

This led me to do some more research which led to the following:

HARMAN, FREDERIC
WOODSIDE, CA 94062
OAK INVESTMENTS/VENTURE CAPITAL

   OBAMA, BARACK
    VIA OBAMA FOR AMERICA  06/08/2007 -2300.00 27931305096  06/08/2007 2300.00 27990258156  06/08/2007 2300.00 27990258156

SHOCH, JOHN F
PALO ALTO, CA 94301
ALLOY VENTURES

   DSCC/NON-FED UNINCORP ASSOC  10/16/2000 5000.00 20020370801
SHOCH, JOHN F
WOODSIDE, CA 94062

   DNC-NON-FEDERAL INDIVIDUAL  09/24/1997 10000.00 98032674113
SHOCH, JOHN F
WOODSIDE, CA 94062
ALLOY VENTURES

   DNC-NON-FEDERAL INDIVIDUAL  04/28/2000 5000.00 20035761727 Total Soft Money:    20000.00

SOMBERG, DEBRA
SEATTLE, WA 98144
MAVERON/VENTURE CAPITAL

   CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM
    VIA FRIENDS OF HILLARY  01/27/2006 1000.00 26020262945
   CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM
    VIA HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT  02/08/2008 2300.00 28990685661
SOMBERG, DEBRA MS
SEATTLE, WA 98144
MAVRON/VENTURE CAPITAL

   CANTWELL, MARIA
    VIA FRIENDS OF MARIA  08/01/2006 1000.00 26020830817  09/19/2006 1100.00 27020071488  09/19/2006 2100.00 27020071488
Total Contributions:    7500.00

Interesting, wouldn't you agree? From what I can tell, the principals and board members that have made political contributions have almost exclusively given to Democrats.

Hmmm.

 

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


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Ya know what ticks me off?

He's not black. HE IS BLACK AND WHITE! And he should have run that way and just maybe he would have gotten my and many other's votes!  He and Michelle and many of their supporters set the standard, not those of us who might be in the other 50% of the voting public.  We were expected to feel guilt right from start of this race.  Let's all call a racist a racist whether it's black or white.  Give me a break!  And, just as an after thought, I would not have hesitated to vote for Condi Rice or Michael  Steele or Colin Powell or any other black candidate if he or she held a close or similar political view to mine.

Right on, gailannr!

If Obama is only 50% black, I guess that makes me only 50% racist because I support McCain/Palin.

It's a great big media myth that Obama is the "Black" candidate. Everything they print is based on the incorrect assumption that Obama is a 100% black candidate.

The Race Card

It's a shame to see the Obama people using the tactic of racism against white voters.

Obama is insulting the intellegence of the American people, ALL of the people.

The racism is coming from Obama and it will cause the progress of the last 45 years to evaporate by making black people feel as though they are still unworthy of distinction and should be kept down. Simply by Obama winning the candidate slot, it has been proven America IS accepting of people of color.

Sorry Obama, it's not your race we will reject, it's you.

"And did I mention... he's (1/8th) black?"

Actually, like Gallannr pointed out in the first post, this empty-suited, accomplished-nothing candidate HAS NO EXCUSE for not winning the White House (well, wait, maybe it's because he's an empty suit and has accomplished next to nothing as a Senator that makes him, hmmm, let's see.... unqualified.)

But beyond that, he and his many race-baiting (and/or ones playing the race angle, which you can't blame them for) handlers have nothing to point to. Their candidate is a MIXED RACE person, so he SHOULD appeal to ALL OF US.... riiiiiight? He's the "new age" candidate, really.

No, wait, right.... "and did we tell you? He's black?" He seems to almost never mention his non-African American side -- which, I'm told, he's actually only 1/4th or 1/8th black, by blood -- except when he threw his grandmother under the bus, and maybe in quick passing in his biographies.

There's a reason they wheeled him out as, simply, a "black" presidential candidate. They're the ones totally playing into the race angle of things, presenting him as a "historical" candidate in a country that has a history of race relations (blacks and whites, that is) problems. They've obviously succeeded in wrestling about 92% of the black vote, AND, being the "first black candidate" have energized a new swath of younger, previously uninterested voters to register.

But that one "qualification" (yes, I use that word sarcastically) might not be enough. Black, white, Peurto Rican (as Prince once sang) is not what almost all (yes, "almost all" Americans are not racist and don't care about race) Americans take into consideration when entering the voting both.

 

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XB......

"The racism is coming from Obama and it will cause the progress of the
last 45 years to evaporate by making black people feel as though they
are still unworthy of distinction and should be kept down."

If black people feel they are "unworthy of distinction", maybe they should get thier heads out of the sand and try to emulate a few like Clarence Thomas or Condoleeza Rice. Oh, my mistake, they are Republicans and do not count.

Good job Noel

Oh I found this interesting.

"On the other side of the racial question, the Illinois Democrat is drawing almost unanimous support from blacks, the poll shows, though that probably wouldn't be enough to counter the negative effect of some whites' views"

 

Prager

TotalKaosDave

As a caller to Dennis  Prager pointed out, the only people that would be considered racists would be those white Democrats that won't vote for Obama because he is black.  Republicans CAN'T be racists since they wouldn't vote for him anyway.  Hmmm, the liberal media calling fellow liberals racists...amazing.

Bigots

It seems that we have individuals that can't get past voting for someone based on race.  Some of my co-workers seem to feel they must vote for Obama because "I don't want to be a bigot/racist".

A mature person would judge everyone as an individual, thus I can hear Obama's words, look at his record, and vote for someone elese because Obama does not seem to be aware that Marxisim has already failed misserably.

 

Governor Palin - She is the Real Deal !

Free

As Smokey once sang: 

"I second that emotion..."

(just more elaborately, perhaps, above :p) 

 

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OK, we could also claim 

OK, we could also claim  that if McCain loses, it's because of "ageism."

Or we can claim sexism or racism

Or we can claim:

  • Sexism - people didn't vote McCain/Palin because Sarah Palin is a woman
  • Racism - people didn't vote McCain/Palin because Sarah is married to someone half-Yapik

Governor Palin - She is the Real Deal !

Polls, people's attitudes, etc

But, you know...Limbaugh had a great point concerning the "Hawkeye Cauci" the other day.  There, the votes have to be done publicly.  Note that Obama won that one, but struggled in primaries where the vote is private.  Precisely for that reason: no one wants to be called a racist, or even accused of racism, even if they are FAR from being so.  

Even if voters are not voting Obama simply because of minor disagreements or simply because they think another candidate is better, you still have voters saying, "Well, I am voting Obama anyways because I don't want to be seen as a racist."  Such is the pressure from some elements in society. 

For this reason I suspect the polls are especially meaningless this year.  Some (not all) of us, I suspect, will tell a pollster that they are voting Obama because they don't want the pollster passing judgment on them.  However, get them in a polling booth, they'll vote McCain, and not because of racism: they simply prefer McCain to Obama, though they dare not say that publicly in their minds because of total crap like this AP poll/story.   

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

'A mature person would judge everyone as an individual'

Noel, you've nailed this pole. It is race-mongering, pure and simple - in a lame attempt to shore up all that the Democrat candidate lacks... which is a great deal more important that any racism that exists.

Free Stinker put a finger on the 'real deal' here... people are judging the candidate, not on race, but on experience, demeanor, wisdom - and most importantly his overall character.  Flat-out the man has little likeability, his humor is thin, and his arrogance level is much too high for someone so lacking in traditional American values.

People have judged Obama not as a black man, but as an individual, and found him lacking the character traits they value in a Presidential candidate.

Normal
0

I've solved the "Bradley effect"

I've now finally figured out what the "Bradley Effect" is all about.

Free- your co-workers feel they "must" vote for Obama or else they would be considered bigoted or racist.  This is because they are told over and over again by the media, their friends, and others.

But when they get into the privacy of the poll booth-no one will know how they voted.  And many will NOT pull the lever for Obama because they resent the pressure placed on them to vote for him solely due to race.

The more the press pushes these types of "studies" (which are actually "Let's help the Obama campaign" in-kind efforts) the more Reagan democrats and indepents are going to vote McCain in Novemeber.

I'm starting to feel a blowout in the making this fall.

EXACTLY!

AND, they are already threatening race riots in November if Obama loses.  The Dems are really scared now that Palin is on the ticket.  They were so darn sure they were going to walk away with this election that Obama picked Joe Biden, The Biggest Loser in the Dem party, to be his running mate, to give Obama some "gravitas." Now Biden can't get more than a handful of people at his campaign events (he never could) and they know that this election they thought they had in the bag is anything but.

I thought all along that Obama would suffer from the Bradley Effect, and a lot of people who publicly say they'll vote for Obama so as not to be labeled a racist, will do anything but in the voting booth.   Now the libs are so "in your face" about the race thing they're going to turn off even more of their own supporters.

Also, the AP's own write-up of the poll says that race is not the biggest factor that is turning people off about Obama - it's just the HEADLINE factor.  Doubts about Obama's COMPETENCE is the biggest factor that will compel Dems to vote for McCain in November.  But they don't want THOSE headlines, so let's pretend it's all about race. 

Suddenly we are all racists for using Dr. King's great wisdom

Hey, ALL I am doing as a voter is judging someone not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.  Gee, where did I learn THAT line???  (I say this because I know that this applies to millions of others.)

And suddenly, because I impose that simple rule of life everywhere, I am the racist??? 

I just got off the phone with my parents.  Why is my father not voting Obama?  Because, as he said, "Obama has a great economic plan that he'll tell us about after he is elected.  That's gross...if it's so damn great, why can't he tell us about it now?"   

It's crap like that which will cost Obama...I'll happily vote for anyone who mirrors my political philosophy and who wants to implement it.  The fact that he and his media cheerleaders are playing the race card I suspect will only backfire.  Those of us in the real world that apply the wisdom of Dr. King to everyday life are just a tiny bit fed up with being called "racist" every damn day of the week.

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

The problem with your logic

The problem with your logic here (aside from the fact that it is logical) is that those who say we are racist don't truly understand Dr. King or his message.  Dr. King truly envisioned a society where skin color was not a consideration for anything yet the DemocRats and their ilk seem to have lost that message and focus only on skin color and never on character.  I, like you and millions of others, couldn't give a rat's patooty about Obama's skin pigment - that's not even on my list of concerns. 

Everyone should check out the National Black Republican Association's website (nbra.info), it's very informative and something I use often when confronted with the racist charge.  Usually shuts them up fast and seems to make them think about who is the real racist.

Oh, and Obama's great economic plan that he won't tell us about sounds an awful lot like my state's governor's transportation plan that she won't tell us about until after November.  She's a democrat running for re-election of course.

 

Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July.  Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan

Unsane... "judging

Unsane...

"judging someone not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

These words by MLK were never a secret to Conservatives. The vast majority of Conservatives have used this standard of measure for many years. Long before the Democrats thought it was cool.

Democrats Energy Plan - Breaking News 

 

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

Clear Thinker

Liberals = "cool"

Conservatives = cool

 

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Hi Shy... Either it's

Hi Shy...

Either it's getting late for this old fart or your post went right over my head. Could you do some splaining? 

Democrats Energy Plan - Breaking News

 

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

CT

Oh, just meaning... conservatives are the *true* cool, so the word doesn't need quotations.

And it was a response to how you correctly portray Democrat's/lib's views of MLK's words as just cool, whereas conservatives really understand and practice what he preached. 

 

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Thanks Shy, for a minute

Thanks Shy, for a minute there I was going to tell the wife that it was time to call Shady Acres to come and get me.

Democrats Energy Plan - Breaking News

 

 

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Haha Clear....

Okay, here's another one for you:

 

Liberals = compassionate

Conservatives = compassionate

 

........................ okay, okay, now I'm just playin' with you. :p 

 

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Thanks, now I have to put

Thanks, now I have to put Shady Acres on speed dial.

Hey Shy, what the heck was it that you and Roger were fussing about the other day?

Democrats Energy Plan - Breaking News

 

 

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Clear

Oh, he's just, well, a schmuck... and I can PM you about it. Really not a long story, but if you want to know.

 

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Shy,

I gotta admit, I was wondering what the hubbub was about as well. I had not noticed any bad blood between you guys before. Don't really want to be nosy, but curious just the same.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

haha

Guess I'll have to blast out a mass-PM to everyone... :p 

 

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clear & restless

Guy's got some serious issues, let's just say.

 

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RESTLESS 1... Man are you

RESTLESS 1...

Man are you nosey!

;-)

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Clear

:>)

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

UNSANE: I sense the other

UNSANE:

I sense the other side of the aisle breaking. Little by little their ground troops are beginning to thin the line and panic will set in about mid October unless something comes about between now and then.

Even this economic downturn which the dems are attempting to play is the ultimate Final Protective FIre, fired as a forelorn hope to gain momentum... but will likely backfire since the cast of characters involved are largely from their side of the aisle (Rangel, Rains, even Obama taking 500k from the greedy capitalists)

Nope, this whole story saying that "racism" is why Obama will lose is simply designed to give the dems an out for running a shockingly poor ticket. THis is much akin to the stories in 2004 that came out to reinforce the notion that Republicans intimidate black voters and use underhanded methods to steal elections.

I predict you will see Obama signs coming out of some yards in late October where heretofore they were prominantly displayed. That will be the first sign of a true rout at the polls in November.

if Obama loses, it's

if Obama loses, it's because of "[d]eep-seated racial misgivings" held by "one-third of white Democrats."

So, what they're saying is that white democrats are the problem? They probably glossed over that part, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility that they are on to something.

Honestly, the only people I've heard that seem to have an issue with Obamas race are white, working class democrats.  The MSM refuses to see it, but "racial misgivings" has very little to do with political affiliation or ideology.

Noel

Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent," responsible for their own troubles.

AP can correct itself if they come out with a follow-up article, for counter-balance, leading with this:

Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost John McCain the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found that an outrageous majority (92%) of blacks say they will vote for Obama in November...

I mean, again, the pink elephant in the room: 92% of African Americans polled (I believe is the %) are voting for Obama. I find this statistic rather shocking. Sure, a majority, but over 90% ??

 

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To answer Noel's question...

YES!  I am tired of being called racist because I'm white and not voting for Obama.

They would never consider that over 60% of this country defines themselves as conservative (question D3 - those of you who listen to Rush know what I'm talking about!) and that is what is defining this election.  The DemocRats have nothing else going for them at this point so their only choice is to fall back on the race angle. 

Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July.  Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan

OBAMA'S MAKING ME RACIST

I have a different take on it. I was never a racist, but Obama is turning me into one.

I hate the way he gets away with his continual lying.  The media lets him slide on false ads and everything.  But, they attack McCain for speaking the truth.  Obama is corrupt to the bone. 

Can you imagine if Hillary or McCain had a close friend of 20 years who helped them start their campaign, and this friend bombed American sites and murdered cops, but got away with it because he had a wealthy family who helped him get off on a technicality. And, this friend recently said he only regrets that he didn't do more damage, and still stomps on the American flag.

That's Obama's friend, Bill Ayers. He lives down the street from Obama.  Obama and Michelle socialize with him and his wife (who is also a terrorist bomber).

Of course, there's Rezko the Chicago crook who is in prison now. Can you imagine if he helped Hillary or McCain buy their mansion with money from Auchi, and Irqai criminal billionaire.

What would you think of Hillary's or McCain's judgement if it took them 20 years to figure out that their preacher was an anti-American racist.  And, subjected their children to the hate on a regular basis.

What would you think if Hillary sent thugs and Chicago blacks into the caucuses to steal delegates using theft, threats, force, and every kind of fraud imaginable.  What would you think if Hillary took over the DNC so that the over 2000 complaints filed in Texas alone, with the phone lines jammed, will never be seen again.

Would you approve of Hillary or McCain doing some "community organizing" to illegally register non-existent people, triple register, and commit other various types of election and voter fraud.

What do you think about 90% of a certain race voting for a corrupt, lying, hypocrite just because he's the same race.

Well, it's starting to turn me against the whole race.  I hate to say it, and I hate to feel that way, but Obama is making me feel like a racist.

 

McCAIN-PALIN 2008 and HILLARY-ANYBODY 2012

John5750, I think you sum it up for a lot of people

I enjoyed your post on Obama and white "racism."  I hope you don't mind but I posted it at my website www.angrywhitedude.com.  There is such a obvious double standard and it has been exposed so clearly this election cycle.  Thanks for your words.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.c...

Racism poll

What they're really doing is setting up the excuse for when they lose.  Obviously it would have to be racism for The One to lose.  After all, don't the Germans adore him? 

Guess Who's Behind This Phony Poll

Steve Gilbert over at Sweetness & Light takes this investigation one step further and discovers that this "unbiased" poll was funded by liberal Democrats / Obamabots / move.on!

 http://sweetness-light.com/archive/ap-some-racist-whites-wont-vote-for-obama

 Just another clever tactic by these socialist Democrats and their lapdog allies the drive by media to decieve the unaware American voter. To me this is the same as voter fraud!

Clinton's Military Philosophy - Tanks In Waco OK . . . Tanks In Mogadishu NOT OK

Some things are what they are.

"That might be so, by why did the study only address how the prejudices of whites are impacting the campaign while totally ignoring how racist feelings by blacks are entering the equation?"

I believe the answer to the above question is found later in the piece as are the answers to a number of other questions you raise.

"The pollsters set out to determine why Obama is locked in a close race with McCain even as the political landscape seems to favor Democrats. President Bush's unpopularity, the Iraq war and a national sense of economic hard times cut against GOP candidates, as does that fact that Democratic voters outnumber Republicans."

Clearly the effort hinges upon the supposition that in this dire political/ economic landscape, they believe that democrats should be further ahead, so the effort is to prove WHY they are NOT. The effort was not intended to look at Obama's SUPPORT i.e. the blacks and what their racial views may or may not be since they have no bearing on the question at hand. The issue is not how many support Obama and why, the issue is WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE SUPPORTING OBAMA!

"If you were going to break this down by "Whites Only," why not do so for "Blacks Only"? The same could be asked concerning this question that was also broken down by "All Respondents" and "Whites Only," but not "Blacks Only":"

Because there is nothing wrong or RACIST about people who have been discriminated against,  voting for one of their own AFFIRMATIVELY! Racism is a negative value and the result of the "racist vote" must be negative in order for it to matter. If there was a history of blacks refusing to participate in the political process because of the racism they faced and THEN when a black candidate comes on the scene they flock to him, your assertion might have greater weight, though not much. See, there support for the man still isn't a "negative value" unless he's like some kind of "Malcom X" guy, preaching hatred of whites! For all his faults Obama clearly isn't preaching that, although it is reasonable IMO to deduce that he does actually feel that way, given his penchant for SERMONS of that nature! But the problem with your argument is that the WHITES in the polls would NEVER vote for a Black....PERIOD. Blacks have ALWAYS voted for and supported white candidates since that is, generally speaking, is who's been running! So all of the support for white candidates has CROSSED racial lines while the white DEMOCRATS polled, showed no such bi-racial inclination. To suggest that there is something wrong with blacks voting affirmatively in support of one of their own, while they have also shown a willingness to vote for whites, is ludicrous. 

Such a view operates in some cotton candy world where the Norman Rockwell paintings of America were REAL and the Blacks being kicked out of restaurants and beaten and being attacked by dogs, lynchmobs and firehoses wielded by the POLICE were fake! I realize that a lot of conservatives want to pretend we live in a world where the negative aspects of racism no longer apply and where blacks can be just a racist as whites, but that's just a river called De Nile! While blacks can be just as evil. bigoted, prejudiced and satanically inspired to hate their white brethren as the converse, their ability to affect the course of your life is severely compromised by their relatively paltry numbers. In microcosm, the badwill of people who cannot affect your life is of little to no consequence, since that relegates their "racism" to the level of "opinion" which like butt holes, we all have! Since the aforementioned bad will can in no way retard the growth of even an individual, let alone a race, it is of no importance. Were the populations more equal your argument would have greater weight but sadly most cries of "reverse racism" are nothing more than a dodge by people too obstinate, selfish or evil, to see the legacy of this country's history. 

"Once again, there was no "white" counterpart to this question, nor was there a "Blacks Only" response category.

Why?

Was it only important to AP and Yahoo News to identify white racism and how it might impact the elections? Might it have been embarrassing to some to actually identify and report black racism and how it's impacting the campaign? 

Supporting someone with the same color of skin as you after being discriminated AGAINST is a logical reaction to an illogical situation.  Some act as if blacks are supposed to forget everything that happened to them in the past and view each new incident of racism as something wholly separate from any historical underpinning! Good luck with that.  I've often said that real racism, which rises to more than the level of "opinion" has usually come from liberals and those no in the south for instance.  There was a famous southern writer whose name escapes me who said in effect, "Here in the south we hate the black race but love blacks individually, whereas in the north they love the black "race" but hate blacks, individually. I have certainly found that to be true. You might not want to hear this but liberals are not like you. Many conservatives have come to a different understanding of race over the years,  largely because of Jesus Christ. No matter where people started out along the "racial hatred spectrum", if you will, continued association with Christ will eventually have you seeing someone else as your brother in tribulation. While this has taken years to happen it was largely due to people of FAITH, the abolitionists in slave days and the clergy both Christian and Jewish during the civil rights era. Liberals who have long ago rejected Christ have forsworn the benefit of his presence and it's a good bet that there are a LOT of unrepentant racists lurking in their midst.   In fact at one point at least TWO in TEN democrats polled on race,  said it was prohibitive for them.  In an article that can be found here.... http://abcnews.go.co... look for a section called "The Race Factor" which says in part.

"The Race Factor

Racially motivated voting ran somewhat higher than elsewhere: Two in 10 whites said the race of the candidate was a factor in their vote, second only to Mississippi. Just 31 percent of those voters said they'd support Obama against presumptive Republican nominee John McCain, fewer than in other primaries where the question's been asked."

You have no idea what evil lurks in the hearts of Dems, only the Shadow know! LOl. How 'bout them Dems?!

 

Shorter version: Since the

Shorter version: Since the goal is to show how racist whites are, if we show that blacks also harbor racist feelings, our findings won't have as much impact. That's why Yahoo and others consistently show only one side.

3/5 elitist

"enshrined slavery in its Constitution"

ENSHRINE means to "cherish in one's heart" - I can't find anything in our Constitution or other fundamental laws claiming slavery is "cherished" - except in the Democrat party (Robert KKK Byrd for example, among many MANY others, including Al Gore Sr., father of "global warming working man" Al Jr.)

So many Socialists - they've learned well from old Uncle Joe.

SLAVERY was GLOBAL: we IMPORTED SLAVERY FROM AFRICA and the MIDDLE EAST not by conquest but by business, as ALL nations did. ONLY the US, created by Christian Men, undid that evil, and it took a long, long time. 

Lincoln essentially created the Republican party to divorce himself and others from Democrat tyranny - split at that time into North and South (industrial vs agrarian); the Civil War was indeed about uniting North and South: Democrats threatened to secede from the Union rather than give up their slaves;  and the much-maligned "3/5" of Jefferson's time - defining blacks as only 3/5's of a person - was NOT to demean blacks but to PREVENT Democrat slave owners from skewing votes - Democrats attempted to not only claim blacks as property, but then as "individuals" for the sole purspose of forcibly obtaining votes on behalf of their plantation masters - part of the genius, and the history, of the devolution of slavery was to PREVENT slave masters from using slaves as proxy voters in order to swing elections. THAT is why the 3/5 rule was enacted (Thomas Jefferson being the last true "democrat");

The Party is all that matters; the rest of us will fall or be paid off
with a "New Deal" as they align with the "enemies of our enemies" to
ensure a new Utopia as Castro envisions. Break out the prayer mats and get ready to pray to  Yo'Bama.

 

 

the pandering socialist and racist from Illinois

 

I will not vote for this pandering socialist and racist for many reasons -- none of which pertain to his race.

I'll sum it up for the left wing idiots that drop by:  he's a pandering socialist and racist.  If you wish to add liberal, Democrat, unqualified, surrounded by idiots, surrounded by liars, surrounded by dubious characters, be my guest.

Does anyone see a racial inference there? 

He's a racist, certainly.  Does that factor into my decision?

You bet.  Is his party racist?

Absolutely.  So, let's make sure the proper distinction is made when any left wing moron suggests a racial component exists here.

Will the 3 people that I

Will the 3 people that I have a bet with please come forward and say.. gee Clear, you were right? Just kidding. But I will win that bet!

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I hope we're all ready for what's gonna come down the MSM pike..

..if McCain wins for the onslaught of :

"America was so close...." 

"Was it racism and not policy that doomed The Messiah?...." 

"Still more work needed in race relations after this Tuesdays devistating election results..."

 "Can America ever reclaim her soul after she so cruelly rejected the One..."

"Time to aim all of our guns at the McCain administration and try and destroy it anyway we can everyday for the next four years like we did Bush (ooops, maybe we shouldn't have printed that)..."

 

I hope we're all ready for what's gonna come down the MSM pike..

..if McCain wins for the onslaught of :

"America was so close...." 

"Was it racism and not policy that doomed The Messiah?...." 

"Still more work needed in race relations after this Tuesdays devistating election results..."

 "Can America ever reclaim her soul after she so cruelly rejected the One..."

"Time to aim all of our guns at the McCain administration and try and destroy it anyway we can everyday for the next four years like we did Bush (ooops, maybe we shouldn't have printed that)..."

 

Obamma

This is nothing more than trying to get the Guilt Vote for Obamma.  I am not voting for him because there is nothing that I like about him, not because he is black.  I can prove it.  Put Colin Powell on the ticket.  I'll vote for him in a hear beat.

T

This is gutter tactics...

Obama wants a race war. I can see tensions get worse even if he wins.

The cities better be on Def-Con 1 Election Night when McCain wins.

Drill ANWAR

I am sick and tired of

I am sick and tired of this all..

I have screamed at the talking heads this past week when they say we are really racist, the real secret he will lose is because you know the Bradley effect...on and on they shout daily..

I am adn have been furious they have never had a poll asking just blacks who they are going to vote for and why...I want to hear some talking heads asking the various black talking heads these questions...

This is an agenda...plain and simple as that...we've seen it for a long time now..and the msm will make sure when Obama loses to be non-stop with this BS racism vitriol...most likely will encourage riots ect.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Bigtimer, the libs have to place blame somewhere

because their wonder boy is going down.  The easiest place is the redneck white voter.  They loathe the white middle class and believe that they are truly above us.  But they always forget that there are a whole hell of a lot more of us than those unwashed, leftist, hippie types who make up the DemonRats. 

They are going down.  Also, Lebowski decided about a month ago to vote for McCain.  I don't like him but just came to the realization that it is too dangerous a time for the country to be run by a socialist, inexperienced, con-man rookie.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.c...

Hey Lebowski...I'm with ya'

Hey Lebowski...I'm with ya' buddy!

I decided to hold my nose and vote for McCain after Palin was named, plus her convention speech...but more than anything was the mainstream media meltdown...nothing has been more precious to me.

Nothing!

Now I just wished McCain would shut-up and let Sarah do the majority of the talking as he is angering me again with his amnesty/illegal immigration BS...I just hope Palin doesn't reflect his views in this area...time will tell...I also think his words this week in other areas also, that I'm not getting into here today, are what is bringing down his poll numbers now...he would be wise to not forget his base, who are behind his choice for Palin and the growing excitement...not HIM. 

Btw...about the polling and such, Ct said long ago him being from down south what he was hearing was the white dems saying that Obama would never win..they weren't voting for him at all...and he travels in some political circles...lol.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

bt... Just so no one can

bt...

Just so no one can blame me for being against Obama because he's black, I'm telling everyone that I disagree with his white half.

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The way the D's rig the

The way the D's rig the election game is:

If Hillary loses, we are all sexist

If Obama loses, we are all racists

If Gore had run in this election and lost, we are all against a clean environment

Racist agitation, environmental warfare and gender politics are the three legs of the D footstool. And the MSM supports all three as the D's demand.

Oh, and one more: If the D's win a state in the election, it will be because those elections are fair and well conducted. If the D's lose a state, it's because the voting machines were tampered with, votes weren't counted properly etc. This one is coming at us (again). And the MSM will support the D's 100 percent.

The major media report only half the news. Why are they surprised they have only half the potential audience?

Doesn't matter

With the Dems, it's damned if you do and damned if you don't.They are completely derranged and far from recovery.

Drill ANWAR