White House Press Secretary Dana Perino has refuted assertions by CNN that President Bush, in a speech to the Israeli Knesset on Thursday, "[suggested] that Senator Barack Obama and other Democrats are in favor of appeasing terrorists in the same way that U.S. leaders appeased the Nazis in the run-up to World War II."
As my colleague Matthew Balan reported less than two hours ago, CNN's "American Morning" was quick to view statements made by the President as hostile to the junior senator from Illinois and other Democrats.
Yet, in a press gaggle following the President's speech, Perino flatly denied such assertions (file photo above right):
UNKNOWN QUESTIONER: There's some question about his comment here about "some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong" -- you know the passage. And he talks about the "false comfort of appeasement." This is being seen in some quarters as a slam on Senator Obama. Is this in any way directed at Senator Obama?
DANA PERINO, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: It is not. And I would think that all of you who cover these issues and have for a long time have known that there are many who have suggested these types of negotiations with people that President Bush thinks we should not talk to. I understand when you're running for office you sometimes think the world revolves around you -- that is not always true and it is not true in this case.
Q: But, so, not aimed at him -- do they include him?
PERINO: He'll have to speak for himself as to what his policy is and you guys can know it well. This was a speech that the President gave to the Knesset. And this is not a new statement by President Bush. This is long-established United States policy, so it should come as no surprise that President Bush suggests that we should not be talking with these people.
Q: This is part of the election cycle, though -- was he stepping into the political cycle?
PERINO: Of course he's not -- the President is President, regardless of an election cycle. And he's going to be the President of the United States until January 20, 2009. And we are not going to change policy based on the '08 election. We're not going to stop talking about the ideals and the values of the United States because there's an '08 election. They can fight it out for themselves over there, but this is not new policy that the President announced and it should come as no surprise to anybody that the President would talk about this. He talks about it in almost every interview, and in particular when he's talking about the issues of Hamas and Hezbollah, al Qaeda, the Taliban, Iran, other state sponsors of terror. It's long-established United States policy.
Q: But you did say there are others who have enunciated a policy --
PERINO: Sure.
Q: -- of talk -- and he has talked about this. So why shouldn't it be seen as anything?
PERINO: I'm not going to get into '08 politics. The speech was not about '08 politics. If they want to try to make it about '08 politics -- and obviously be helped by the media -- so be it. But the President is President of the United States. This is a long-established policy that he has held and that he has talked about all over the world. And you guys have seen it for seven-and-a-half years. It's not going to change now.
As CNN correspondent Ed Henry's sources were unnamed "White House aides," it will be very interesting to see how this story plays out in the next 24 hours.
Stay tuned.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.













Comments Policy
When I read the headline, I
May 15, 2008 - 14:36 ET by Chris NormanWhen I read the headline, I was afraid that the White House was backing down, but I think Ms. Perino worded this just right. Let the President's statement stand and let those people with guilty consciences figure out if he was referring to them.
I thought the same thing Chris
May 15, 2008 - 14:39 ET by Dee BunkI'm so glad they didn't.
Let the comment stand
May 15, 2008 - 14:57 ET by NorthCoasterThe comments of President Bush to the Knesset were based on long standing U. S. policy. How hard is that to figure out? There are more than enough politicians in the U. S. and the rest of the world who have promoted appeasement. If current candidates feel included, so what? It's still a valid concern.
Sudatenland
President's speech in Israel
May 15, 2008 - 16:24 ET by merlin61Hey Dems!!! If the shoe fits, wear it. Guilty
conscience? Guess so. If you said things like
Obama has said and Carter has said, the shoe
fits!!!!!
Just like any other Dem - Obama changes the subject
May 15, 2008 - 14:38 ET by Dee Bunkand makes criticism of a policy a personal attack. He can't stand up and say - that he disagrees with Bush's policy - he has to make it personal.
Obama is for appeasement and no one is even allowed to talk about appeasement in any negative way just because he is for it. It's crazy.
'Cuz the rules are
May 15, 2008 - 17:14 ET by Cape ConservativeNO ONE can pick on Obama!! And anything that is said that even hints of a connection to any of his stated policies is fair game! Can't pick on BHO!!! The Teflon man is a good name for him! And this will go on until November!
And you're right, it's never a response but rather an attack that has nothing to do with the original statement!
Dana Perino for President.
May 15, 2008 - 14:38 ET by mattmDana Perino for President.
I agree, mattm
May 15, 2008 - 17:16 ET by Cape ConservativeThat lady had some large shoes to fill when Tony left, but she more than holds her own! I admire her greatly! She has a great way with words, does NOT back down, and knows how to keep the press in line!!
»→ Careful there Bush!
May 15, 2008 - 14:42 ET by Cool ArrowJust because Obama has looked upon Ahmadinajad with lust in his heart, don't mean he's done anything yet.
But when reached for comment, Ahmadinajad said "B Hussein, you got some splayin' to do".
♣ a seal
So, when is McCain going to apologize to the Obama crowd?
May 15, 2008 - 14:57 ET by R D HelmAnd don't tell me he won't do it, either.
As for Mr. Bush, it is just sad that he hasn't told the truth about many of our leftists friends far more often than he has.
Had he done so, I think his party would most likely be in far better shape than it currently is.
OMG, RD.....I was just
May 15, 2008 - 15:01 ET by motherbeltOMG, RD.....I was just thinking that!! LOL
My first thought was...Has McCain been asked to "distance himself from" and denounce those remarks?
but you're probably right...they won't have to ask....
motherbelt,
May 15, 2008 - 15:15 ET by R D HelmI swear, this McCain campaign (if you can call it that) is going to send me in search of a six month supply of Prozac pretty soon. I am probably going to have a stroke sometime between now and November. Seriously.
If the MSM is going to come to Obama's defense every time the republicans go after him, as they have here, then the timid McCain camp has absolutely no chance of beating this guy.
BTW-I hope you heard Rush's show today. He pretty much savaged McCain. It was utterly merciless.
I think it was one of the best shows I have ever heard him do.
I did hear some of
May 15, 2008 - 15:20 ET by motherbeltI did hear some of Rush...when he was talking about McCain running against Bush and against the Republican Party. Great stuff!
No Prozac, but I'm laying in a good supply of duct tape!
I wish...
May 15, 2008 - 15:02 ET by motherbeltI wish Ms. Perino had just said, "If the shoe fits......"
IF you believe that "wander
May 15, 2008 - 15:16 ET by balboaIF you believe that "wander around" was a shot at McCain, then this was a shot at Obama.
One BIG difference
May 15, 2008 - 15:22 ET by motherbeltOne BIG difference Bal....Obama specifically said I'm not going to let Sen. McCain wander around....
I think balboa feels pretty stupid right now
May 15, 2008 - 15:24 ET by Dee BunkI think balboa feels pretty stupid right now
Nope. There's still a leap
May 15, 2008 - 15:26 ET by balboaNope. There's still a leap of paranoid faith you have to make in each instance to decide that the individual statements were "shots" or "swipes" at the person in question.
If the shoe
May 15, 2008 - 15:29 ET by USA4freedomIf the shoe fits...
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Romney / Jendil 2012 (if,we survive)
There again, Balboa, the
May 15, 2008 - 15:35 ET by Chris NormanThere again, Balboa, the point was, that if Republicans were as quick to pretend to be offended as Democrats, they could've acted like they were offended by Obama's choice of words. The Democrats proved here, once again, that they can be "offended" by "Good morning". Bush didn't say who were the appeasers - but the Democrats knew, as stated above, that "the shoe fit".
You weren't offended at
May 15, 2008 - 15:39 ET by balboaYou weren't offended at Obama's "shot"?
No. I am offended that the
May 15, 2008 - 15:47 ET by Chris NormanNo. I am offended that the Democrats have created a polticized language where certain "code words" are pretended to be offensive - and at the drop of a hat. Our point was, by the same token, McCain could find offense in Obama's choice of verbs. Rememer Biden getting in trouble for using the adjectives "clean" and "articulate" in describing Obama. Do you regard Obama's supporters as "paranoid" for finding offense in that? Because, I find them phony in their "outrage".
Plenty others on that
May 15, 2008 - 15:54 ET by balboaPlenty others on that thread were offended.
And yes, Obama's supporters are paranoid for finding offense in clean and articulate. I know what Biden meant.
Balboa, the vast majority on
May 15, 2008 - 17:24 ET by Chris NormanBalboa, the vast majority on NB are concerned with Obama, the Democrats, and their little elves in the media, while you are obsessed with the comments of some of the posters here - get over it.
Balboa - it's still completely different
May 15, 2008 - 15:50 ET by Dee Bunkthe two situations are not at all comparable.
As far as Obama's comments I wouldn't classify them as "shots" at McCain they are just part of his ingrained elitism. His "wandering" comment to McCain is similar to his "Sweetie" comment to the reporter. He sees himself as better than both people in one case because his young and in the other because he's a male. He doesn't set out to offend the people, he just thinks he's better and it shows.
I don't get this elitism
May 15, 2008 - 16:08 ET by balboaI don't get this elitism charge.
Why balboa? Because he's Black?
May 15, 2008 - 16:42 ET by Dee BunkTo be far left like him you pretty much have to be an elitist who thinks that they are better than everyone and can tell them how to live their lives. That combined with the fact that he and his wife both went to Harvard and the "cling to guns and religion" type comments make it plain to see. If he isn't elitist then no one is.
But that's YOUR
May 15, 2008 - 18:39 ET by balboaBut that's YOUR interpretation of him, that he thinks he's better than everyone and wants to tell you how to live your life. And going to Harvard makes you academically elite, not necessarily elitist.
I'm already on record as saying that the interpretation of his "cling" comments has been wildly blown out of proportion.
Bal, all you have to do is
May 15, 2008 - 19:14 ET by motherbeltBal, all you have to do is watch him speak. He talks with his nose in the air. Check this out (scroll down past F&F to Obama video) and you can see his imperious attitude (and yes, that's my assessment) and also hear him say himself that he thinks "talking" is a good idea.
Democrats continue to get enraged when they have their own views tossed back at them, or their own words quoted to them.
As for his "cling" comments, it would have blown over if he hadn't tried to cover it up by saying he meant they look there for support, and then that he meant they vote on issues like guns and religion. If there was nothing wrong with what he said, why try one excuse then another?
If the shoe fits...
May 15, 2008 - 18:22 ET by PeskyDaneIf the shoe fits...
I think we're over our limit
May 15, 2008 - 18:36 ET by balboaI think we're over our limit for "shoe fits" references.
boa...I don't...in fact I
May 15, 2008 - 18:39 ET by bigtimerboa...I don't...in fact I just used it on Noel's new thread...too bad if you don't like it...granted I haven't read many threads today..but if the shoe fits....well, it's certainly appropriate.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Mrrrowwrr!
May 15, 2008 - 18:49 ET by balboaMrrrowwrr!
I hereby demand you stop
May 15, 2008 - 18:50 ET by CortillaenI hereby demand you stop insulting felines everywhere. Any cat could come up with a better retort than that.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." -Miyamoto Musashi
That's intelligent balboa
May 15, 2008 - 18:51 ET by Dee Bunkgrow up
Today Balboa is an A-hole
May 15, 2008 - 18:55 ET by Dee BunkIt's nice how the liberals get away with this crap but when a conservative does anything like this 10 people would pounce on them
Wow, Dee.
May 15, 2008 - 18:59 ET by R D Helm:-)
I'm serious RD - that was totally uncalled for
May 15, 2008 - 19:01 ET by Dee Bunkbalboa owes her an apology. That is what weak effeminate men do when they don't know how to argue with a woman. What a jerk.
Dee, oh, I agree.
May 15, 2008 - 19:06 ET by R D HelmLOL-I just have never seen you get so animated that the a**h*** word got tossed into the mix.
With a capital A, too. :-)
Sheesh! What's with you? I
May 15, 2008 - 19:02 ET by balboaSheesh! What's with you? I made a silly comment about the number of times people have used "shoe fits," BT gets snippy, so I poke some fun.
That is not appropriate and you know it.
May 15, 2008 - 19:06 ET by Dee Bunkso don't play stupid. How and when have you said that to one of the guys here?
I think I said it to Chris
May 15, 2008 - 19:19 ET by balboaI think I said it to Chris Norman just the other day.
Hey, bigtimer, I apologize if you took offense to that. None intended.
Hey! How should I take that?
May 15, 2008 - 20:17 ET by Chris NormanHey! How should I take that? :)
Chris
May 15, 2008 - 20:26 ET by Jerfurplay?
Yikes! No saucer of cream!
May 15, 2008 - 21:05 ET by Chris NormanYikes! No saucer of cream! No table for two!
But, Chris...
May 15, 2008 - 21:17 ET by Jeryou and bal make such a purrfect couple. Remember this exchange? [paraphrasing]
Chris: bal, is there any comic or genre of comedy you won't defend?
Bal: Gallagher
Classic.
Jer
It's funny cuz it's true.
May 15, 2008 - 21:33 ET by balboaIt's funny cuz it's true. :-)
Okay, but if we're like an
May 15, 2008 - 22:03 ET by Chris NormanOkay, but if we're like an old bickering couple, I get to be Fred. Bal has to be Ethel.
Balboa - Bringing Chris Norman into this was good and
May 16, 2008 - 18:22 ET by Dee Bunkyou were both funny. I even laughed when I was angry but I wasn't going to admit it.
Sorry that I flew off the handle with the A-hole thing. It all seems a little extreme right now, but I felt completely justified at the time. I still think your comment was inappropriate and I'm glad you apologized to BT.
Dee... Wow...I guessed I
May 16, 2008 - 18:31 ET by bigtimerDee...
Wow...I guessed I missed all the fun...and looks like I'm glad of it...thanks for standing up for me...and boa...thanks too for whatever you did and apologizing.
Sorry, I am in and out of here...just saw this.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
I was a little over reactive BT
May 16, 2008 - 18:37 ET by Dee Bunkso never mind
Dee.. Gotcha'...Worry
May 16, 2008 - 18:43 ET by bigtimerDee..
Gotcha'...Worry not.
I have already laughed with the responses...
I think a lot of the whole last week has got a lot of us hot and bothered at times.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill
Not a problem. :-) I'll be
May 16, 2008 - 18:45 ET by balboaNot a problem. :-)
I'll be more aware of demeaning comments.
About being
May 15, 2008 - 19:19 ET by Clear thinkerAbout being snippy...
It's because you are NOT very funny.
"Abstain from McCain"
Give me a break, Dee...
May 15, 2008 - 19:31 ET by JerGive me a break, Dee...Bal is consistently one of the most cordial posters at NB.
And what 10 people are you talking about? Liberals? I'm not sure there are even ten of "us" who post regularly. If you mean ten people generally, I have seen far worse insults gratuitously delivered without drawing a peep of protest.
Jer
True. Balboa is polite, if
May 15, 2008 - 20:23 ET by Chris NormanTrue. Balboa is polite and civilized. However, there's a liberal (not you) on here who is overly polite, exhibiting an unctuousness reminiscent of Eddie Haskell.
Chris...
May 15, 2008 - 20:37 ET by JerOne of my alltime favorite TV characters. Just mention his name and I would have thought "unctuousness"...maybe even "obsequious unctuousness".
Jer
Although this is not who
May 15, 2008 - 20:40 ET by balboaAlthough this is not who you're referring to, I think a very underrated character from that show was Larry Mondello, who kept sandwiches in his pockets.
Lumpy?
May 15, 2008 - 21:01 ET by JerLumpy?
No, Jer. I think Larry
May 16, 2008 - 02:12 ET by fitzfongNo, Jer. I think Larry Mondelo was that heavy-set blonde kid that used to hang out with Theodore and Whitey in the early episodes. Lumpy Rutherford was friends with Wally and that fink Eddie. I never liked Gilbert, Beaver's friend in the later episodes. I don't even know what this thread is about...I guess it has something to do with cats...but when an old TV reference comes up, I'll be there.
fitz...I bow to your
May 16, 2008 - 04:37 ET by Jerfitz...I bow to your obviously superior knowledge and expertise concerning television minutiae. I never quite recovered from the shock of learning Eddie became an LA cop. Saw him on O'Reilly several months ago, BTW....He's aged pretty well.
As far as this thread....Warning! CSI team is still conducting forensics, and I'm licking my wounds.
Jer
If I'm not mistaken, he had
May 16, 2008 - 04:51 ET by fitzfongIf I'm not mistaken, he had to retire because of a disability. I think he may have been shot. I'll have to look into that one. Ken Osmond is supposed to be a really nice guy. My cousin went to high school with Jerry Mathers' nephew (I know that sounds a little like connecting someone's hairdresser in a 6 Degrees of Separation...but we cling to what we can).
Gosh fitz...living where
May 16, 2008 - 05:01 ET by JerGosh fitz...living where you do [Huntington Beach?], I would have hoped for a celebrity connection slightly more impressive than a cousin/Jerry Mathers' nephew link. :>)
Jer
Well, I did go to college
May 16, 2008 - 05:49 ET by fitzfongWell, I did go to college with Mindy Cohn of Facts of Life fame. I met her a few times and went to a party at her house. But that's not any better, is it?
Would you believe that Cuba Gooding, Jr. pushed me in the back at a hockey game a few years ago? I saw Donal Logue, Matt Lauer and Loni Anderson at LAX two days before I got married. How about the time I worked out at the gym only to see Ricki Rachtman of MTV Headbanger's Ball (I know, who?) at the next bench? Having worked in Santa Monica and Brentwood for most of my 20s, I tended to see a lot of the OJ protagonists out on the street. Now I'm getting desperate. Wow. I've really got nothing.
fitz...Mindy Cohn? That's
May 16, 2008 - 06:11 ET by Jerfitz...Mindy Cohn? That's even worse than the cousin/Mathers thing. Your 'brush with celebrity' resume` really needs some padding. Do they still have those "see the stars" --or whatever they're called--bus tours?
Jer
A capital idea! At least
May 16, 2008 - 14:13 ET by fitzfongA capital idea! At least then I might meet Tootie!
Speaking of which, I shot pool in a Culver City bar one time and Gary Coleman was at the next table. I'm really scraping the bottom of the barrel now.
Do you think Tatum O'Neal still sells those star maps? I might have to get on it.
Jer
May 15, 2008 - 21:17 ET by shawn228He probably means me. If I am mean, I'm a troll, If I am polite, im unctuousness. God, I can't even pronounce that. :-)
Shawn
May 15, 2008 - 21:33 ET by JerWhether he is referring to you or not, I wouldn't worry about it. I can think of much worse accusations than one claiming a person is "too polite".
Jer
Not in my world.
May 15, 2008 - 22:06 ET by Chris NormanNot in Chrisnormanland, there isn't.
Chris
May 15, 2008 - 22:13 ET by shawn228I guess I am too polite for you kind sir. I want you to know, I find you of the utmost integrity and you sir are an outstanding poster, please keep posting your upmost quality literature.
I do regret, that I have made you a little peeved, perhaps I can try my very best to live up to your standards.
edit,
my apologies Chris :-( See post below
Aye, ditto on that. I
May 15, 2008 - 22:13 ET by CortillaenAye, ditto on that. I actually wrote a paper on how being unnecessarily overly polite (eg. false, pointless compliments) is a degredation of honesty in the nation. I still think that's absolutely true.
www.rhjunior.com Great comics with a hefty dose of Christian and anti-nutjob goodness.
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Shawn,
May 15, 2008 - 22:11 ET by Chris NormanNo, not you. At least, I never really noticed.
Sorry Chris
May 15, 2008 - 22:12 ET by shawn228I just used the process of eliminination, and my paranoia got the best of me. I can't figure it out, can I have a hint?
Why the paranoia? No, I
May 15, 2008 - 22:18 ET by Chris NormanWhy the paranoia? No, I think I'll let you ruminate. I'll tell you in due time - but only if you're good.
Ok Chris
May 15, 2008 - 22:26 ET by shawn228"but only if you're good"
I am cutting up my ACLU card as we speak
Good - and clean your room.
May 15, 2008 - 22:31 ET by Chris NormanGood - and clean your room.
All Done
May 17, 2008 - 12:30 ET by shawn228Now I am removing all Tofu and Soymilk from the fridge.
double post
May 15, 2008 - 19:32 ET by Jerdouble post
BT - next thing you know - balboa will be calling you sweetie
May 15, 2008 - 18:52 ET by Dee Bunkthat's why he doesn't get it about O'bama - he's a sexist pig just like him
Dee, I've said all along
May 15, 2008 - 19:18 ET by motherbeltDee, I've said all along that that's liberal humor. They get nasty, and then say Hey, I was kidding! Can;'t you take a joke?
I was in no way trying to
May 15, 2008 - 19:20 ET by balboaI was in no way trying to "get nasty."
There is no way a woman
May 15, 2008 - 20:06 ET by motherbeltThere is no way a woman would take a snarling cat comment as any way but nasty. That one is best reserved only for women who know you very well. And even then I'd be very cautious if I were you!
mb
May 15, 2008 - 20:13 ET by JerHe's apologized. Let's move on.
Jer
Jer - we will move on when we feel like it not when you
May 15, 2008 - 22:11 ET by Dee Bunktell us to. You liberals don't own this place and I'm tired of the way you all jump on people, especially when they are new. In addition to new people, you try and cause divisions and taking sides with people who have been here. If you are going to jump on people then don't be surprised when people jump back.
You guys can jump on me all you want because I don't scare easy and I'm not putting up with it. I'm not going to walk on egg shells here. The whole reason I come here is so that I can say what ever I want where I can't always around my "sensitive" liberal friends. I'm sure that is why a lot of people came and will come here. I like to argue and I don't take it personally when people disagree with me. If others are going to take it personal when I disagree with them then too bad. You will have to wait until they kick me off because I'm not keeping my mouth shut while I'm here.
Dee
May 15, 2008 - 22:22 ET by shawn228I am not jumping you at all but I really don't understand the double standard
I want you to know that my hostility toward fs has run its course and all is well, but what I don't understand is. I get on freestinkers case about his scoreboard, and you tell me to lighten up and it is all in good fun.
Balboa makes a funny comment about someone being catty and you go totallay bezerk and call him a ahole. Early today you also made one of my favorite posters Candance feel bad about asking another poster for civility, that she might even leave.
Don't you find it even a little ironic and double standard? Also can you name even close to the ten liberals that jump on people?
Dee...With respect to the
May 15, 2008 - 22:23 ET by JerDee...With respect to the entirety of your first paragraph, I don't know whom or what you are talking about. However, I challenge you to point out a single instance where I have "jumped on new people", or jumped on anyone for that matter.
But, by all means, carry on. Say whatever you wish to whomever you wish.
Jer
Jer where's jase tonight?
May 15, 2008 - 22:48 ET by botgShawn, you know that answer! It's you, me, Jer, JasonC! We're craaaaaaazy! Balboa
only three on Dee?
“i am the quixotic botg and i approved this message”
botg.... jase is at a
May 15, 2008 - 22:52 ET by Jerbotg....
jase is at a NewsBusters board meeting. One of the owners, y'know.
Jer
well Jer
May 15, 2008 - 23:02 ET by botgno wonder you have to play the "i don't know what you're refering to" game with Dee it's one 3 on 1.
“i am the quixotic botg and i approved this message”
since you said three botg
May 15, 2008 - 23:07 ET by shawn228i guess I'm allowed to respond to you because i am one of the three. Dee called Bal an a-hole. She also made a accsation about how we gang up up on new members.
I notice lots of blanket statements lately that nobody seems to be able to back up. If we ask a simple explanation, it is always dismissed as nitpicking or whining.
Sorry Jer didn't meant to answer for you. Thats twice I did that to you tonight.
well yeah i said three cuz
May 15, 2008 - 23:10 ET by botgwell yeah i said three cuz first Bal and Jer were there then you inserted yourself. i came after all was set so yes i said three.
“i am the quixotic botg and i approved this message”
The idea that we're "ganging
May 15, 2008 - 23:13 ET by balboaThe idea that we're "ganging up" on Dee is ludicrous.
No it's not Balboa - you jerks do it to everyone
May 15, 2008 - 23:20 ET by Dee Bunkregardless if they have been there and stuck up for you in the past. You are like little children who act like you are in high school and I'm sick of it
That's even more ludicrous.
May 15, 2008 - 23:25 ET by balboaThat's even more ludicrous. Gang up on who? When? Where? C'mon...
All I've ever done is argue a point...and make silly comments.
oh puhleez Balboa was there
May 15, 2008 - 23:23 ET by botgoh puhleez Balboa was there a 'catty' comment and did or did not two others of you get involved? i guess the sky isn't blue and you're not playing dumb????? I'll give you a hint: either you're playin dumb or you're being dumb.
Either way it ain't flying.
“i am the quixotic botg and i approved this message”
I made a comment in reaction
May 15, 2008 - 23:27 ET by balboaI made a comment in reaction to BT. Jer and Shawn agreed-- in a civil manner-- that Dee's reaction seemed to be a bit much. I apologized for any offense taken.
THAT's ganging up?
why Bal? what's up with
May 15, 2008 - 23:36 ET by botgwhy Bal? what's up with that? why you even stirring it to begin? it's got to do with your overall perpetual disagreeing it makes you disagreeable. That's your cumulative persona here which you have worked hard to obtain. Don't whine when the fruits of your own labors come back to bite ya.
“i am the quixotic botg and i approved this message”
botg...Not playing any
May 15, 2008 - 23:22 ET by Jerbotg...Not playing any games. Maybe you should conduct a recount. I saw that bal was the target of a 4 on 1 pile-on: bigtimer, Dee, motherbelt, and Clear thinker...over what appeared to me was, at worst, a minor and unintentional slight. And, for that indiscretion [for which bal has since apologized], Dee was calling him an A$$hole. It was at that point I first commented.
Maybe there is a protocol for coming to someone's defense which I failed to observe. If so, please tell me what it is.
Jer