New York Times: New Climate Model Predicts Global Cooling

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The blogosphere was abuzz Wednesday evening with a new study indicating that "global warming will stop until at least 2015 because of natural variations in the climate."

New York Times environment reporter Andrew C. Revkin wrote an article about this Thursday, although it appears mostly to point out to his readers that this hardly disproves man is destroying the planet by burning fossil fuels.

Before we get there, here are the pertinent facts reported by the British Telegraph Wednesday (emphasis added throughout):

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Researchers studying long-term changes in sea temperatures said they now expect a "lull" for up to a decade while natural variations in climate cancel out the increases caused by man-made greenhouse gas emissions.

The average temperature of the sea around Europe and North America is expected to cool slightly over the decade while the tropical Pacific remains unchanged.

This would mean that the 0.3°C global average temperature rise which has been predicted for the next decade by the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change may not happen, according to the paper published in the scientific journal Nature.

Fascinating. However, there was a catch:

Noel Keenlyside of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences, Kiel, Germany, said: "The IPCC would predict a 0.3°C warming over the next decade. Our prediction is that there will be no warming until 2015 but it will pick up after that."

He stressed that the results were just the initial findings from a new computer model of how the oceans behave over decades and it would be wholly misleading to infer that global warming, in the sense of the enhanced greenhouse effect from increased carbon emissions, had gone away.

The IPCC currently does not include in its models actual records of such events as the strength of the Gulf Stream and the El Nino cyclical warming event in the Pacific, which are known to have been behind the warmest year ever recorded in 1998.

Today's paper in Nature tries to simulate the variability of these events and longer cycles, such as the giant ocean "conveyor belt" known as the meridional overturning circulation (MOC), which brings warm water north into the North East Atlantic.

Anybody smell a rat? After all, some of the skepticism concerning the anthropogenic global warming theory (AGW) is how heavily it depends on long-range forecasts made from computerized climate models.

If such models are unreliable as it pertains to warming, should we get excited when one predicts cooling?

Such was the impression of Roger A. Pielke Jr., a professor of environmental sciences at the University of Colorado, Boulder, who wrote Wednesday (emphasis added):

I am sure that this is an excellent paper by world class scientists. But when I look at the broader significance of the paper what I see is that there is in fact nothing that can be observed in the climate system that would be inconsistent with climate model predictions. If global cooling over the next few decades is consistent with model predictions, then so too is pretty much anything and everything under the sun.

This means that from a practical standpoint climate models are of no practical use beyond providing some intellectual authority in the promotional battle over global climate policy. I am sure that some model somewhere has foretold how the next 20 years will evolve (and please ask me in 20 years which one!). And if none get it right, it won't mean that any were actually wrong. If there is no future over the next few decades that models rule out, then anything is possible. And of course, no one needed a model to know that.

Interesting. On the other hand, what this study did was incorporate elements climate realists have pointed out for years have been largely ignored by alarmists and the IPCC such as the Gulf Stream and El Nino events. This appears to give some value to this study regardless of its reliance upon models.

However, we should not just cherry-pick the parts of this study that appear to disprove AGW, for this clearly was not the authors' intent:

Such a cooling could temporarily offset the longer-term warming trend from increasing levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

Revkin also made this clear to his readers (emphasis added, h/t NBer dahliatravers):

One of the first attempts to look ahead a decade, using computer simulations and measurements of ocean temperatures, predicts a slight cooling of Europe and North America, probably related to shifting currents and patterns in the oceans. [...]

The authors stressed that the pause in warming represented only a temporary blunting of the centuries of rising temperatures that scientists have projected if carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases continue accumulating in the atmosphere.

I agree. They did.

As such, what this points out is the need for folks on both sides of this debate to not jump on every new study as evidence that their side is right, for it not only makes people look foolish, but does not help the public better understand the science.

Coincidently, another such episode occurred earlier this week when NASA released the following:

A cool-water anomaly known as La Niña occupied the tropical Pacific Ocean throughout 2007 and early 2008. In April 2008, scientists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory announced that while the La Niña was weakening, the Pacific Decadal Oscillation-a larger-scale, slower-cycling ocean pattern-had shifted to its cool phase. [...]

Unlike El Niño and La Niña, which may occur every 3 to 7 years and last from 6 to 18 months, the PDO can remain in the same phase for 20 to 30 years. The shift in the PDO can have significant implications for global climate, affecting Pacific and Atlantic hurricane activity, droughts and flooding around the Pacific basin, the productivity of marine ecosystems, and global land temperature patterns.

As you might imagine, tom toms were being banged all around the rightosphere concerning this report. However, as a result of some queries, I was able to determine that this might be much ado about nothing. Roy Spencer of the University of Alabama, Huntsville, e-mailed (with permission):

I wouldn't read too much into this...the monthly PDO values suggest that the current PDO event is weaker than at least 4 others that have occurred in the last 20 years...it is certainly not unusual in the sense of being either strong or persistent.

Another well-known realist replied:

I concur. Also, it's the Atlantic MDO, now in a very strong warming phase that shows no signs of ending soon, that seems to have more influence on medium-term temperature trends than the PDO.

In the end, despite what alarmists like Nobel Laureate Al Gore claim, this debate is far from over, and scientists around the world are working tirelessly to answer climate questions whose answers are still largely unknown. As a result, and given the dollars not just being thrown at this issue, but also at stake, we can expect "groundbreaking" studies to be released on almost a weekly basis for years to come.

In order to best disseminate such reports, it is incumbent upon responsible journalists -- yes, even those in the blogosphere -- to dissect such studies, and seek some qualified opinions before jumping on each one that appears to be the global warming missing link.

By doing so, we not only increase the level of the debate, but we also avoid filling the information chamber with a lot of irrelevant white noise that acts to further confuse the public while moving us away from the answers we seek.

Furthermore, until we can establish any predictive ability of climate models, all studies relying on them should be taken with a grain of salt, even ones that appear on the surface to buttress the realist position.

After all, on Saturday, when temperatures finally got close to normal where I live in Northern California, I was about to finalize the annual opening of my swimming pool, which, as an aside, is already almost two months later than normal due to all this "global warming" we've seen this year. To help me with my decision, I logged onto a couple of well-known weather websites which informed me that the 80s I was experiencing Saturday would be short-lived, another cooling trend would begin Monday, and temperatures would be unseasonably low for the next ten days.

As a result, I postponed opening my pool only to find the new forecast predicting very warm temperatures this weekend, and back into the 80s by next week.

With this in mind, I'll start trusting long-range climate forecasts when meteorologists can accurately tell me what the weather will be five days from now!

*****Update. As a post facto aside, I wanted to pose a question: Is it possible the alarmists realize that the postponement of solar cycle 24, and the current solar inactivity, will indeed result in a cooling pattern of undetermined length requiring some forward explaining as a red herring?

As NBer upcountrywater pointed out in his comment on this subject, sunspot activity has almost completely ceased. Those that study such things believe we could be entering a very cold period, and don't know how many years this will last. As such, could it be the alarmists are beginning to recognize this, and need to start proferring explanations for this cooling that don't interfere with AGW? Think about it.

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So now we know

CO2 drives temperatures up, and CO2 drives temperature down. Did I get that right?

The answer is man has nothing to do with the climate cycles. The 1977 shift of the Pacific decadal oscillation eneded the ice age scare, so will this shift in the PDO put the warming scare out of it's misery? Before or after liberals wreck the economy?

Whiplash.

Create a need and fullfill it...

Al Gore: "Did I say Global WARMING? Ugh, check that. I meant COOLING. Yeh, that's the ticket - cooling. And that's the best thing about my new Multi-Climate Carbon Credits. They're good for warming AND cooling. Get 'em now while they're hot - er, cool."

My Own Computer Model Predicts.....

Regardless of future weather, my own computer model predicts that requests for tax payer funded climate studies will increase for the rest of this century. 

What we now know

CO2 drives taxes up. Has nothing to do with temperature.

You are correct, sir.

They are hedging their bets. They say that global warming is happening and something must be done (wreck the economy with socialist programs). Unfortunately for them, the climate is not cooperating with their models, so they revise the models to match what the climate is doing today, but add that it is only temporary and their catastophic warming models will pick up in about seven years or so, long after this particular report is forgotten, or they find something other FUD to drive their communist agenda.

So, even as they are proven wrong year after year, they say that are right in the long run and we must continue adding socialist programs to prevent our pending doom.

 

 

 



"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary." Ernesto "Che" Guevara


ROFL

You have to be kidding me. An ice age is being staved off by global warming.

 

Sounds to me like the

Sounds to me like the alarmists are buying time. Nothing to see here folks. The models are just on pause. The earth is a giant Tivo.

Time

Wait a minute, I thought the world was going to end in 10 years acoording to Algore. But wait!! I'll bet GW is causing time to slow down so that the 10 years Algore predicted is still accurate but it will seem like maybe a 100 years. Of course if it doesn't end in 100 that will be proof of futher time-slowing affects of GW. Can I go home now?

Actually

The Goracle said the world would end in eight years if nothing was done. So the Earth decided to end it, the hoax that is.

Well Noel I am a

Well Noel I am a meteorologist and the little secret is that really after three days the models that I look at aren't very accurate. Now that's actually much better than in the old days and with more new technology coming out the models will get better...but we're talking accuracy for weeks at the most and certainly not years.

I remember in school we had an equation that had to do with models and there was always a time component that introduced error and the error increased as the time componet increased. So for those of you who don't have a degree in atmosphere science this predicting months or years at a time should be taken with a huge grain of salt.

 

"They need to have a course in college called common sense and everyone should take it. Problem is there isn't too many people that could pass or teach it." -my grandfather

Very true

I agree with what you are saying 100%, here is what the alarmists say when you tell them that you can't predict the weather for next month, much less next century.

While we can not tell you day to day what the weather will be like in the long term, we can predict trends. For example, I can tell you that it will be cooler in January 3010 than it will be in July of 2958 (for the Northern hemisphere anyway).

Of course, my response is this:

OK, wiseass. Can you tell me if it will be cooler in January 2018, or January 2075? Didn't think so.



"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary." Ernesto "Che" Guevara


I've been hearing about

I've been hearing about this reversal...it is called CYA time for all the alarmists and out right liars with an agenda in the works...

Al Gore are you listening?....

Congress-critters are you?

We have broke over 115-120 year old records here this year for the winter so far...

Weather guessers aren't called that for just any reason, I listen for the three day forecast, that's about it, and half the time they get that wrong.

Mother Nature knows...simple as that.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

Noel it this continues for a year, look out..

Todays weather, cool will continue until spots reappear.

No spots today

So what GORE & BLOOD will still make money!!

Blood sees climate change creating an entirely new business stratum, he
said, similar to that surrounding the so-called Internet economy --

The POPE says, GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

IranianUranium<sleep>New/Infrastructure/repair?/ROFLMAO

 

Kevin

Kevin,

Interesting point. Please see update. ns

I think there are a lot of reasons

Why the abandon ship alarm is going off in alarmist-ville.

What warming there was has shown evidence of life under the glaciers that 'are left' -- meaning they were much smaller than they are today. Trees rimming the Artic ocean speaks of warmer times than today. See Prof Bob Carter's video for the details.

It's been really cold this winter. Records falling like acorns in a spring snow. Being repeated in the south hemisphere right now.

The ARGO bouys find no warming, but cooling. This is a cool array of robots who are now on duty.

The USHCN system is a laughable disaster for accuracy and data collection. Anthony Watts and helpers have exposed the problem.

The AQUA satellite has found no evidence of the CO2 layer in the atmosphere, meaning the uniquie signature of AGW is not there.

The sun has decided to stop making spots, no one knows exactly why. The solar wind is very low and has been quite for an extened period.

Roy Spencer(EIB climatologist :-) has a theory of cloud formation, and no one knows how to discredit it, since it's based on real satellite data.

There is a limited amount of torpedos you can take before your computer models sink into a useless hypothesis. That's the current position today.

It's now obvious to a whole lot of people that what we know you can wrte a book on, what we don't know would fill a library.

I'm Just Sayin'

I'd like to point out that I pointed this out a couple months ago here when I posted this link as my reasoning for the warming that got AlGore started on this hoax a few years ago:

 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap071203.html

 

yep

It's an obvious connection that if the sun is less active our planet won't be as warm.  I heard a news report that spun this cooling reports blame solely on "Global Warming", I _KNEW_ that the Church of Environmentalism would do that.

1) If we follow the Kyoto treaty and reduce CO2 emissions, will it reduce cooling or warming?  because if greenhouse emissions are now causing cooling, then how were they causing warming?

2) The absolute hubris of thinking we can dial in a temperature on the Earth is incredible.  It's also incredible how many people the greens have convinced of this hubris.

Weather report

I believe that those who are being disingenuous with us on AGW will go to a place of eternal warming when they leave this sphere. 

 

Such a cooling could

Such a cooling could temporarily offset the longer-term warming trend from increasing levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

Basically, what the report says is no matter what the climate does, it's still man's fault.  Man's contribution is a bias upon the natural variation even if the variation totally cancels out a supposed CO2 temperature effect.  Pay no attention to the snow in Baghdad, pay no attention to the dire situation China has been in this winter, pay no attention to the polar ice cover being above average, and absolutely pay no attention to the April CO2 readings of Mauna Loa due to be released in the next couple of days

I shall be very blunt, the report is strictly about justifying the refusal of AGW believers to subject their theory to falsification as required by the scientific method.  They did this for a reason, they are deathly afraid that when the CO2 readings at Mauna Loa don't come in higher than last year, the public will come to the conclusion that temperature drives CO2 and not as the AGW believers claim.  The April and May readings will once and for all disprove the AGW claims that CO2 drives temperature. The reason being Man's CO2 contribution to the atmosphere has not gone down or even stayed the same, it went up!  If La Nina can drive down CO2 then all the arguments of the AGW believers fall flat because at that point, the most inconvenient question has to asked and answered, what causes La Nina?  The sun.

 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.  

What these folks want us

What these folks want us to believe is that when the temperature goes up, it's man's fault, but if it goes down, it's "natural variation".

Easterbrook makes some good points:

http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/more-on-the-pdo-shift-cited-by-nasa/#comments

Joke Warning

Reminds me of the following joke...

An engineer, a scientist, and a global warming modeler were all interviewing for a job.  The interviewer calls in the engineer first.  The interviewer tells the engineer, "I have one question, what is 2+2"?  The engineer replies, "I can tell you with exact certitude the answer is 4.00000".  The interviewer makes some notes, lets the engineer go and then calls in the scientist.  "I have one question", says the interviewer.  "What is 2+2?".  The scientist thinks for a moment then replies, "I can tell you that the answer lies somewhere between 3.998 and 4.002.".  The interviewer lets the scientist go and then calls in the global warming computer modeler.  The interviewer tells the modeler, "I have one question, what is 2+2?".  The modeler thinks for a moment, looks to the left of him, then looks to his right.  Then he lowers his head, leans in and whispers to the interviewer, "What answer do you want it to be?"

TM

TM,

OUTSTANDING!!! BRAVO!!! AUTHOR, AUTHOR!!!

Thank you for the much-needed chuckle! ns

I don't know who originally

I don't know who originally created the joke, but when I heard it, the joke involved a statistician.  I took the liberty to insert the global warming modeler since it's probably more appropriate lately. 

Hey TruthMatters... I

Hey TruthMatters...

I meant to post you too a lot earlier as I was laughing after reading your post...I got a phone call and forgot...(trying to catch up now real quick here) 

Just wanted to say thanks for the much needed humor.

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

As George Carlin says,

As George Carlin says, (paraphrasing), the earth will shake us off like a bad case of fleas and all that will be left of our presence will be, maybe, a little styrofoam.

I have never believed in Global Warming, and I sure as hell don't believe in Global Cooling. All it is is a money making venture to line Gore's pockets. And he's an idiot.

Chaos theory

Edward Lorenz, MIT Professor of Meterology and developer of chaos theory, died on April 16th.

 The AP obituary: "His discovery of derterministic chaos brought about 'one of the most dramatic changes in mankind's view of nature since Isaac Newton' said the committee that awarded Lorenz the 1991 Kyoto Prize for basic science."

What led to the discovery of chaos theory? During the 1960's Lorenz re-ran a meterological model to confirm its initial results and came up with dramatically different forecast results. He determined that a input error of less than 0.0001 in the value of a single variable led to the significant swing in predicted outcome. It was published in a paper in 1972 and led to the term the "butterfly effect".

So, when Al Gore and his minions use models that exclude the effect of clouds, and ignore variations in solar radiation to substantiate their political conclusions that we are facing dire circumstances of 0.3 degrees of warming over a 100 year period - do they really expect us to believe them?

And not just the input

And not just the input error, but also the number of decimal places you use to make the calculation.  Change the number of decimal places and you get a radically different result even though the numbers are practically the same.  Chaos theory explains why it is the climate models aren't reliable and don't give consistent results.

 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.  

Part of the Plan

Is it possible the alarmists realize that the postponement of solar cycle 24, and the current solar inactivity, will indeed result in a cooling pattern of undetermined length requiring some forward explaining as a red herring?

Not only do I believe the answer to that question is yes, I sincerely believe back in 1988 James Hansen knew exactly what he was doing when he started all of this nonsense. Even though the man is obviously idealogically driven he surely is not that naive about climate patterns. I believe in 1988 he knew because of the PDO pattern and current solar activity that we were headed fo another 10-20 years of warmer temperatures. Couple that with a litte data manipulation and bogus computer models his CO2 scam would be easy to sell. Let April 29, 2008 go down officially as the day the "butt covereing" era began.

 

You should watch this viedo

It replays the 1970s ice age is coming scare. Note the players are the same ... http://www.youtube.c...

This is Prof Bob Carter's video if you need more context about the real climate situation of the planet and where it's likely headed next.

http://10ksnookers.b...

The Merry Month of May

We had 5 inches of snow this morning to help greet the month of May. The mountains got hammered. And it was 82 in Denver yesterday. Actually pretty typical for spring in Colorado. It's somewhat amusing to see the people who migrated from elsewhere watering their lawns during a snowstorm. The general rule here is to not do any gardening, except for cleanup, until the Sunday after Mother's Day. You still may get a freeze after that, but it usually won't be a hard one.

 I'm amazed that a scientist from CU-Boulder called B.S. on this, they are, after all, in the People's Republic of Boulder, also the home of NOAA, NCAR, etc. Maybe he's one of the 23 registered Republican faculty - out of 823.

Shoe on the other foot

...scientists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory announced that while the La Niña was weakening, the Pacific Decadal Oscillation-a larger-scale, slower-cycling ocean pattern-had shifted to its cool phase.

Who would have thought it. NASA has been bought off by Big Oil!

Yet more stunning proof

Yet more stunning proof that science cannot predict the weather (or the climate) more than 45 minutes in advance. If snake oil ever becomes as valuable as petroleum, there's going to be some mighty rich cognitive-challenged scientists.

And now for something completely different... I have developed a computer model which strongly suggests that feeding Al Gore an exclusive diet of navy beans for 2 years or more will cause dramatic population migrations away from his neighborhood. The reason for these migrations is not clear, but I suspect it has something to do with the collapse of the Dutch tulip market in 1637.

This is unravelling

The whole AGW fraud is unraveling faster than B.O. Plenty's presidential campaign.  The entire article was an exercise in political ass covering.  "Global warming" has been transformed into "climate change”.  So we are supposed to believe that we are going into a "natural" cooling cycle, but at the same time there is no such thing as “natural” warming cycles?  I see a dangerous confluence coming that may just lay waste to the Democrat’s social engineering aspirations for a long time. 

1)     The collapse of the AGW hoax.

2)     The food price crisis brought on by the bio-fuel fraud.

3)     Spiraling fuel prices brought on by environmentalist sequestering of our own energy supplies.

Any comment?

wow how can that be, al gores chart never predicted this

by 2015 we were all suppose to be wearing mylar reflective insulated suits and crowed together on the last remaining mountain top peak as we ran from the rising waters.

but global warming still hasn't gone away, of course it hasn't the sun hasn't burned out yet.

lunaticcringeradio

what I want to know is...

Why wasnt this cooling trend in the original model and are there future cooling trends that are not yet discovered in the model calling for warming after a 10 year pause? In other words if they could not see a 10 year cooling trend until the last minute then what degree of certainty can they have in their overall model? I think a lot of people are taking the wrong tact on this issue...instead of bashing it - do the reverse...act like it is the gospel. Then when it doesnt fit...ask them why not? Ask them how that happened, how the model they want to change the entire economy and infrastructure of human civilization around is worth believing. Then hold them accountable to their models...right now they dropped the ball and every single person who failed to see a cooling trend has a broken model that cannot be trusted- they are forever more not allowed to put forth a model.

 

These models and this mad belief is starving, freezing, and bankrupting people where the effort and money could be put to use in raising the living conditions of every person on the planet instead. To casually say - 'hey, oops missed this data point' is unacceptable when you are asking the world to spend 1 trillion dollars on it.

Consider this...If global warming exists then how cold and how many people would have died this record breaking winter if we hadnt been pumping CO2 into the atmosphere?

that is what I want to know

The Science is "Known"

 The whole argument of the AGWers is that the science is "known".  Now after 10 years of declining rate of increase, they suddenly throw in a new angle of "ocean currents".

Was that "known" before?  Or do they only predict things 10 years after they occur? 

 

John A. Bailo
Participant, The Texeme Construct