CNN: Climate Conference Attendees Are Like Flat Earthers

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By Noel Sheppard | March 4, 2008 - 13:00 ET

As NewsBusters reported, there's an international conference on climate change happening in New York City wherein well-renowned scientists from all over the world are meeting to discuss anthropogenic global warming.

On Monday, climate alarmist Miles O'Brien of CNN actually had the gall to imply that speakers and attendees of this conference are Flat Earthers.

I kid you not.

During Monday evening's "Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees," O'Brien concluded his videotaped report concerning this conference (video available here at end of blog post):

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Even the Flat Earth Society didn't fold its tent in 1493.

How disgraceful.

Of course, O'Brien didn't mention that the leaders of the anthropogenic global warming movement, Nobel Laureate Al Gore and Goddard Institute for Space Studies chief James Hansen, were both invited to speak at the conference, but refused.

Nor did he mention that the founder of The Weather Channel, John Coleman, said at the conference that folks involved in the marketing and sale of carbon credits -- including Al Gore -- should be sued "to finally put some light on the fraud of global warming.”

No. Instead, O'Brien, who firmly believes in the global warming myth, chose to equate all the esteemed scientists attending this conference to those that continued to believe the earth was flat AFTER Christopher Columbus sailed across it.

This from a man who in December 2006, as the Senate was debating this very issue, fell asleep.

For those that can stand it, what follows is a partial transcript of this segment:

ANDERSON COOPER, HOST: Snow in Jordan, certainly not expected and very out of the ordinary. It's been a wild winter all around the globe. Aside from the snow in the Middle East, there's been a freak blizzard in China; record gains in the amount of ice in the arctic.

Does it mean global warming is, well, over? Not exactly. Many scientists say these are weather phenomenon, not overall changes of climate. This season's weather, however, hasn't stopped a group of academics and scientists from getting together and telling anyone who'll listen that climate change is the theory that never was.

Here's Miles O'Brien continuing our "Planet in Peril" series.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MILES O'BRIEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The heartland is no place for a polar bear to take refuge. The Heartland Institute, that is.

DENNIS AVERY, SENIOR FELLOW, THE HUDSON INSTITUTE: Because this cycle is natural, because the wildlife has been through it before, we will not lose species to global warming.

O'BRIEN: The conservative think-tank is staging a three-day summit for global warming skeptics in New York. Halls and conference rooms bristling with what amounts to scientific trash talks.

LORD CHRISTOPHER MONCKTON, THE SCIENCE AND PUBLIC POLICY INSTITUTE: Here is the graph that started the scare.

FRED SINGER: A warmer climate is better than a colder climate. Something people tend to overlook.

O'BRIEN: That's Fred Singer, a superstar among the climate change skeptics here. The gist of his argument? Sure, the climate is changing and the ice is melting, but it's not our fault. And so we shouldn't do anything about it.

You firmly believe it's natural, don't you?

SINGER: I do. And it's not a matter of belief. It's a matter of evidence. I go by data. O'BRIEN: Where are you getting your data from?

SINGER: That's a good question. I get it from the IPCC.

O'BRIEN: You know the IPCC, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the U.N. organization that distills the work of thousands of climate scientists all over the world and issues all those increasingly dire warnings about global warming and its likely link to our use of fossil fuels.

So how can the people here look at the same data and reach such a different conclusion?

JOE BAST (ph), HEARTLAND: I think what we are is the junk science busters.

O'BRIEN: Joe Bast is president of Heartland. He says the public is skeptical about global warming.

A recent poll from Yale found a vast majority of Americans believe global warming is real and a serious threat.

I can't help but think you're living on a different planet than I am.

BAST: I probably am. I think your planet is very small and echo chamber sort of thing.

O'BRIEN: But Dan Fagin says this might be the echo chamber.

DAN FAGIN: I think at this point they're largely talking to each other.

O'BRIEN: Fagin teaches journalism and writes on the environment. He says skeptics have changed their tune as evidence started stacking up against them. A decade ago they denied global warming even existed.

FAGIN: They're getting closer to the scientific reality, although they're certainly not there yet. The only way that they could be right is if there was some kind of grand conspiracy.

O'BRIEN: But that is what Heartland desperately wants us to believe. Even the Flat Earth Society didn't fold its tent in 1493.

Miles O'Brien, CNN, New York.

—Noel Sheppard is an economist, business owner, and Associate Editor of NewsBusters.

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Alarmist

Miles O'Brien uses the term "flat-earthers". Scott Pelley (when not broadcasting hatchet jobs on Karl Rove) uses the term "deniers". Bill Blakemore of ABC calls it solid fact.

If it is such solid fact, then why all the name calling.  People don't worry so much about the 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Why are these boys so upset?

MILES "OPIE" O'BRIEN

If Miles O'Brien wants to do real news investigation, I suggest he start with his own family, namely his mother and father who were both investigated for fraud by the SEC and settled out of court.

O'Brien's hard-nosed journalism style was honed by years of getting the s*it kicked out of him at GPUL for being such a sniveling little suck-up.

After all, those expensive schools (Grosse Pointe University - Liggett & Georgetown) are hard to come by. Ain't they, Opie?

Miles O'Brien a.k.a. Chicken Little

I used to write to American Morning to complain about Miles O'Brien all the time.  He's had a great run in with Senator Inhofe.  The good Senator beat him up pretty bad, so he had to do a spite piece, but he didn't allow Senator Inhofe equal time to rebut.  We've blogged on NB before about his coming Ice Age bit in 1992.   Correct me if I'm wrong, but he's been fired from all of his anchor positions.  He's even a hack compared to CNN standards.

Stultus est sicut stultus facit

Miles, I've got to sleep now, that you've explained it

The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. (R. Frost)

What did Frost know, and when did he know it??

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

And just what are O`Briens

And just what are O`Briens scientific credentials?

O'Brien is exactly the kind

O'Brien is exactly the kind of anchor that nut job Turner likes at CNN. He fits his purposes precisely. This fella is a true believer and nothing will ever convince him he's wrong. Well, nothing but Ted Turner changing his mind about AGW, then O'Brien will change his mind about it.

I bet he didn't have any scientific arguments, just name calling

Imagine how stupid this man is going to feel when he is 60 years old and looks back and realizes his life was just a big lie.

killing me

O'BRIEN: Joe Bast is president of Heartland. He says the public is skeptical about global warming. A recent poll from Yale found a vast majority of Americans believe global warming is real and a serious threat. I can't help but think you're living on a different planet than I am.

 

and the vast majority of the American people are not scientists, since when does someone's feelings have anything to do with science?!?!?!?!?!?

I want to go start a new place to live where you don't let idiots in

Idiots

Unfortunately, most idiots aren't born that way. They're produced.  Thank the school system and congratulate yourself for rising above it.

There are 2 types of politicians.  Those who know AGW is a sham and stupid ones.

The GW Tent was folded due to cold weather

This guys hardly deserves "face time" as a CNN "nobody is watching" reporter.  

He's just jealous that after he goes off the Air with his Drivel, the New media will take over and the NY Conference will go on the Web and get more internet hits than this guy's audience at CNN has hairs on their heads.   

IT's the beginning of the End.....the Polar bears are doing OK, and the Ice shelf didn't melt, Al Gore got a Peace prize NOT a Science Prize.....

Against the grain...

They are upset, because this high profile event is actually happening, and it goes aginst the grain of the liberal, sniveling MSM.

Where is the balanced journalism? Why are they trashing one side of the issue and supporting the other? Doesn't that go against the ethics of basic journalism? (rhetorical of course...)

Just another blazing example of the bias that these ignoramises deny...

Miles, you're an Al Gore pod

Miles, you're an Al Gore pod person or a global warming lemming - take your pick. How's that for name calling?

Miles might want to watch his own network.

Fortunately, CNN has Glenn Beck, who's been covering the conference as well, but in a more positive way. He had Anthony Watts on last night talking about his site surveys.

Dave

Was Anthony Watts the guy from James Cook College that was suirveying all the NOAA weahter monitoring sites? Was he being interviewed along with Willie Soon of Harvard? Those 2 really impressed me. They had their @$%^ together.

If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard

The one after that.

He is the guy doing the surveys, but he was the one on at the end of the program. I can't remember they name of the guy interviewed with Willie Soon, but his research sounded familiar, so I'm sure I've read something of his.

AGW lacks transparency

I wish Mr. Coleman would take up the lawsuit himself. Someone has to expose these thieves for what they are. The Center for Climate Strategies is going to one state after another where it’s essentially setting state policies on environmental strategies. It’s supposedly a consulting firm and it’s funded by left-wing foundations. While these policies will rape the taxpayer’s wallets they have no opportunity to review the studies. The number of states is so far 25 and they are presently in Maryland.

Dr. Roy Cordato of the John Locke Foundation has been fallowing events in North Carolina. See what the Beacon Hill Institute discovered with their peer review.

 

More from the John Locke Foundation

You can go here to find more policy paper on AGW. It is a lot to got through so you better have time.  

If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.-Lewis Grizzard

Desperately bad reporting, Miles

A recent poll from Yale found a vast majority of Americans believe global warming is real and a serious threat.

Hey guys, it's a vast majority! That proves it.

"Vast Majority"

Hey - good 'ol JoZeF must be making a comeback! I believe Blonde has also been wondering where JoZeF has been for all these months. Ah yes - the good 'ol "Vast Majority" arugument that JoZeF used for every liberal argument. JoZeF must've moved on from posting at NB to reporting for CNN. Good for him. Ah, the nostalgia.

The overwhelming vast

The overwhelming vast majority of clear-thinking, smart-minded Americans!
Yep. A blast from the past, indeed!

Consensus

Yes, science by consensus (of a body of non-scientists) has always been the best way to determine truth. That worked well for Galileo and Copernicus, didn't it.

I love their

short and to-the-point answers to all the leading "questions". Actually most were statements disguised as questions. Typical reporting from the MSM. That's the thing about real scientists. They don't let emotion get in the way of analyzing the facts.

Always a bit more than

Always a bit more than telling when a fraud's fraud is defrauded--and the defrauders are decried as frauds.

When the story no longer fits the agenda, the perpetrators of this hoax will simply fall back on the liberal playbook of name-calling. In run-of-the-mill politics, the names are usually "racist" or "bigot." Since in this instance, none of these fit, they default to "flat-earthers." On deck are those who deny the need for socialized medicine being referred to as "blood-letters."

So original. So predictable. So liberal.

O'BRIEN: You know the

O'BRIEN: You know the IPCC...... and issues all those increasingly dire warnings about global warming and its likely link to our use of fossil fuels.

Ah, yes, the obligatory jab at what actually fuels the world's economy.

BAST: I probably am. I think your planet is very small and echo chamber sort of thing.

Great response.

Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!

 

"A recent poll from Yale

"A recent poll from Yale found a vast majority of Americans believe global warming is real and a serious threat."

That may be so, but that doesn't mean it is. The vast majority of kids under 12 in this country believe Santa Claus is real.

Say It Loud: NGW

 

I have been on a tirade lately of trying to get reporters to call us by our right name: we are Naturogenic Global Warmers. "They" (Al Gore) are Anthropogenic Global Warmers.

Using the term "skeptic" trivializes the very real science that shows the Earth's climate is due to very strong natural forces (perhaps some being extra-solar).

We are not merely in opposition to AGW -- we have an equally compelling and valid theory, supported by much data, which allows us to make predictions, form hypothesis and so on.

NGW

 

 

 

John A. Bailo
Participant, The Texeme Construct