It just goes to show how smart Ann really is with regards to Christianity. She was absolutely spot on. Also, great excerpts! Now, will anybody read them or listen to them? I can think of a few who won't...

Oustanding response by Coulter and commentary by Newsbuster's Noel Shepherd. Those worried for the safety and security of the Jews (and what sane person would not be, given history) need not worry about the rational dialogue of Ann Coulter. Sadly, many of those going after Coulter on this have ignored the steady rise of vituperative anti-Israeli sentiment on the left and blatant anti-Jewish propanda daily propagated by Islamofascist sympathizers.

Deutsch might better spend his time asking why the Palestinian flag flies unrepudiated over "antiwar" demonstrations, while the new Hitler is wined and dined at Columbia and by the National Press Club. Coulter did not call Jews pigs and monkeys and falsely claim they were engaged in genocide and apartheid and ought to be wiped from the face of the planet. Nor would she in a thousand years. Maybe Deutsch ought to learn to tell the difference between those engaging in rational dialogue over theological differences and those wielding the knife with the sharp blade.

I have been following this story for a couple of days and this verse keeps coming to mind:

1Co 1:18 - For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

It is really not Ann Coulter that is offending these people, although they think she is. 

Actually, read the whole passage that verse comes from:

17 For Christ did not send me (Paul) to baptize, but to preach the gospel--not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. 18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate." 20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22 Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24 but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength. 26 Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. 27 But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28 He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things--and the things that are not--to nullify the things that are, 29 so that no one may boast before him. 30 It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God--that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. 31 Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord."

The people who criticize her are described below:

Rom 1: 20 - 32

 20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

No her views do not represent all Christians, Christian supersessionism has been rejected by the Catholic Church and the vast majority of mainstream Christian denominations.

Jewish Groups Condemn, Boycott Ann Coulter

ADL Condemns Ann Coulter's Comment That Jews Need 'To Be Perfected'

"The Anti-Defamation League strongly condemns Ann Coulter for her anti-Semitic comment that Christians "want Jews to be perfected" in an interview with Donny Deutsch on CNBC's "The Big Idea." During her October 8 appearance, Coulter suggested that Jews should convert, adding that, "we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say. … That's what Christianity is."

Ann Coulter may be a political pundit but she clearly knows very little about religious theology and interfaith issues. Coulter's remarks are outrageous, offensive and a throwback to the centuries-old teaching of contempt for Jews and Judaism. The notion that Jews are religiously inferior or
imperfect because they do not accept Christian beliefs was the basis for 2,000 years of church-based anti-Semitism. While she is entitled to her beliefs, using mainstream media to espouse the idea that Judaism needs to be replaced with Christianity and that each individual Jew is somehow deficient and needs to be "perfected," is rank Christian supersessionism and has been rejected by the Catholic Church and the vast majority of mainstream Christian denominations.

Clearly, Ann Coulter needs a wake-up call about the power of words to injure others and fuel
hatred. She needs an education, too, about the roots of anti-Semitism and the shared values of Judaism and Christianity. Christians and Jews have worked tirelessly for more than 40 years to overcome the past and to promote a more tolerant and pluralistic vision for the future and
especially for America.

Donny Deutsch is to be commended for his immediate and forceful denunciation of Coulter's
statements, for calling her remarks personally offensive, and for rightly characterizing her suggestion that Jews are inferior to Christians as anti-Semitism."

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Ms. Coulter is quite correct in her base conclusion, but is ignorant of the meaning of Hebrews as much as Popular Tech is in complete ignorance of Ann Coulter and Christian belief and attitude toward what he terms "Jews" as much as Ms. Coulter.

Firstly, the book of Hebrews has one Author and this is the Holy Spirit of God Who inspired Paul to write this. One has to understand exactly the Hebrews, because it is the greatest theological doctrine ever written in human history explaining in Phd. understanding the minute detail of the Jewish scholars of the Saducees and Pharisees explaining Who Jesus Christ is.

THIS IS VITAL to understand that the Hebrews was not written for the simple folk, but for the most educated, brilliant and religious scholars in history. The Jewish leadership in all communities were the greatest of debaters equalling the gifted Greeks who influenced all cultures in the known world of the day.

Hebrews exposes the absolute flaws of Jewish doctrines which were basing all their adoption by God to only obeying the Law and neglecting completely that the adoption is a Gift from God not earned. Good works alone do not get a person into heaven.

Paul in the Hebrews composed a timeless doctrinal explanation which reads to the informed and uninformed across time. There is nothing anti semitic in Paul the Jew nor in Ann Coulter the Israelite, because what people do not equate is Hebrews was written to law scholar Jews, but the Hebrews are 12 other tribes who still exist as God said He would never loose one of the 13 tribes of Israel. They are as Jewish scholars have written of like Yair Davidy found among the northwest peoples of Europe, England and the Americans. Denmark for example means Mark of Dan.

Ignorance of the depth of this subject then jumped on by leftist groups or condeming bloggers like PT only cloud the issue with their blanket intellectual ascertions without any fact of reality.

One has to remember the early Christians ended up quite dead by the leading Jews. Paul, himself was part the hunt and execute teams the Jewish leadership sent out. Paul even records these people stoned him when he became a Christian.

The early Universal or Catholic religion took parts of both pagan and Christian doctrines and in struggle did indeed struggle violently with Jews who were prosperous and well established in power. Many German Christians can relate to the persecution as Martin Luther was persecuted as much by the Catholic religion as were the Huegonauts.

So stating "Christians" is as much a misnomer of ignorance as "Jews". Modern Jews are Judeans who are the children of Judah, son of Jacob of the Hebrews. Modern Jews are in part Levites and Benjamin, also sons of Jacob. Modern Jews are also in an almost 70% majority as can be seen by Olmert's European Cabal in Judea or the Israeli state of Ashkenaz, an Asian people who converted to a form of Judaism.

"Jews" are different peoples and not united by one faith. There are sects of Orthodox who follow the Tanahk and Torah (Old Testament Prophets and Law) to what is an imported doctrines from Babylonian captivity of the Mystery Religion called the Talmud to even the mysticism of Shabbatai Zvi, the false messiah, who most of the ruling "Jewish" elite of Europe follow.

Olmert right now is making war on American Jewish settlements using Russian Jews to beat and molest settlers. They cleaned out Gush Katif last year and many other areas. They want Judeans out of Judea to take control of the area. In American terms they are the socialist Hillary Clinton sect practicing a form of blue state religion against the redlands.

So to call Jews as Jews and Christians as Christians with this diverse bag is as ignorant as people chattering on about Muslims as all Muslims when they are as diverse as bin Laden's Islamofascists, Zawahiri and Ahmadinejad's Islamocommunists to the Muslim Brotherhood of Keith Ellison in Congress striving for the overthrow though politics the American government.

It is always red flag whenever someone starts hammering anti semite and name calling then adding half facts of blanket statements which have been leveled at Ms. Coulter. All need to be perfected or "Be ye therefore perfect as I the Lord your God am perfect". The term is Holy which means set apart. All people are required to be set apart from the hatred of the world and instead to manifest caring about one another and nurturing with facts the good direction God has provided.

Thank you for your time.

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I love how the pagan left and the atheist left always gets upset when they are told that they are going to hell, because the pagan left and the atheist left don't even believe in hell.  Had Ann Coulter NOT said what she said, then she would call herself an atheist rather than a Christian.  The pagan left and the atheist left actually expect Christians to hope for a world populated with nothing but pagans and atheists.

Let me ask a question: Is this concept of "the perfected Jew" a commonly known concept in Christianity? For the average church-goer? I'm no theologian, granted, and I'm not disputing it, but I've never heard of this before so I was wondering. 

You have repeatedly stated that any religious person who believes their religion is the only true religion is a bigot. You have also mentioned that Jews and Christians both are going to heaven in your view, a claim that is in direct opposition to the doctrine of both these religions.  

So assuming your previous statements are what you honestly believe, Jews will go to Heaven, Christians will go to heaven, Hindus will go to heaven, Muslims will go, Buddhists will go, Scientologists will go, Mormans will go, Athiests will go, Jim Jones believers will go, David Koresh believers will go.....pretty much everyone in the world is going to heaven right? This is the only possible conclusion to your all-inclusive view on religions in general.

Can you honestly not see the lack of logic in your thinking? It is completely illogical and impossible for ALL religions to be right, and for all roads to lead to heaven....especially since EVERY major religion teaches that they are the ONLY true religion. I can't figure out your logic?

And for the record, according to your definition of the word bigot, I must be the biggest bigot ever. I completely believe that every person belonging to any other religion than Christianity are NOT going to heaven upon their death.  I believe that because this is the core teaching of Christianity and the core teachings of Christ. There is only ONE path to heaven, through Christ. (This is not something you can translate away from the New Testament by arguing literal versus figurative Bible interpretation - Christ said it Himself over and over again)

If you think I am a bigot, then Christ is a bigot, because I am just following what He has taught me to believe.  

"There are two kinds of people in this world, those who like Neil Diamond, and those who don't....."   Bill Murray in What About Bob

PT et al,

I've been reading the debate going on in this and another Coulter thread concerning Ann's recent comments, and I respectfully suggest that those who are getting their undies in a bunch over this issue are falling prey to David Brock's scam.

After all, what indeed is the modus operandi of Media Matters? It was created to stifle opinions that go counter to liberal dogma, correct? And, how do Brock and his minions try to accomplish this? Not by offering the public opposing views for its consideration. No, that would be too much like discourse, correct?

Instead, what this disgraceful organization proudly does is demonize all whose existence offend it by cherry-picking from their public statements and disseminating falsehoods in order to prevent such voices from being part of the discussion. Sadly, in this case, you've taken the bait.

In reality, this surprises me because you more than most are fighting this same propaganda machine with your valiant efforts concerning global warming. If you equate the two, can you see how the leftists that have jumped on Coulter's statements -- the same leftist that are always looking to jump on anything she, Rush, O'Reilly, etc., say! -- are just trying to silence a voice they disagree with?

After all, leftists are for the most part secular, correct? Do you really think these people are actually concerned about Jews being offended? If they were, wouldn't they be much less owing to Palestinians and Muslim extremists looking to kill Jews? Wouldn't they be less enamored with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad?

This whole issue is just another example of Media Matters and the left fabricating a controversy in order to silence a conservative voice, and you better than most should see that.

For instance, you cited disgruntlement by the American Jewish Committee. Did you know this organization has strong ties going back decades to the Sulzberger family of New York Times fame? As such, what do you think their politics are?

You also cited the ADL. Are you aware that this organization is against the teaching of Creationism and Intelligent Design in schools, and also opposes the posting of the Ten Commandments in government buildings? As such, do you think this is a group truly advancing religious principles in our country, and, therefore, has an impartial opinion on this controversy that should be at all taken seriously?

As for the NJDC, what does the "D" stand for? Think it's being impartial with its disgust in this matter?

Don't be fooled, PT, this is ALL about Ann Coulter, and nothing to do with religion. Nothing.

Furthermore, whether or not you like Coulter's views on this subject, we as conservatives should always welcome an expanding discourse. Let the liberals like David Brock et al spend their time trying to squelch it. We shouldn't be afraid of folks making politically incorrect comments that evoke passionate debate, for that's what our country was founded on. Quite frankly, we should welcome it.

To me, this is one of the very things that makes Ann so valuable: she gets the nation talking and thinking. Isn't that a good thing?

By contrast, if folks like Brock, Hillary, Pelosi, and Reid get their way, all thought that doesn't conform with theirs will be unacceptable in this nation. They'll be regulating radio content, Internet content, you name it.

I assume this isn't what you want? Assuming I'm right, calm down for a second, and try to figure out what Ann said that is really offensive. What did she say?

After all, aren't all religious sects somewhat bigoted? Don't they all believe theirs to be the right interpretation, and that everybody else's is wrong? I read someone's comment about Jews not believing that Jesus is the son of God. As you're a Christian, doesn't that offend you? Doesn't that mean that Jews think you're wrong about this issue? Isn't this an important distinction?

On the flipside, Muslims think Mohammed was a prophet. Do you? Do you think they're right to hold such a belief, or gravely errant? If the latter, aren't you guilty of the same bigotry as Coulter?

In the end, all religions are rather chauvinistic in as much as each believes it has sole possession of all the answers surrounding God and heaven, and that all others are wrong. In fact, today there is much discussion about how much Romney being a Mormon harms his candidacy. Isn't this a bigotry as well? Are all those fearful of a Mormon president just as bigoted as Ann? And how much has Romney's faith been addressed by the media? Are they doing it because they really care about his faith, or to discredit one of the leading GOP candidates for president?

In the end, PT, this attack on Coulter is exactly the same as the ones on Rush and BOR. None of these people were offended by her comments. They're just offended by her existence, and what she says about Democrats. As such, these folks are like a baserunner trying to take out the second-baseman attempting to make a double-play. They're there to do a hit job, nothing more, nothing less.

Conversely, our job is to jump over the oncoming runner, and throw the ball to first base. Sadly, in this case, I think you got taken out before you made the throw.

JMHO. ns

This would, franky, all be much more convincing if Coulter regularly demonstrated in her writings that she has even the slightest bit of Christian principles or grace in her day-to-day life. She loves the fire and brimstone, but she clearly never got to that pesky New Testament. Like many others who just talk the talk, she uses Christianity for little other than glib justifications for her intolerance. I could care less about her remark about Jews, and yeah, I get it that she's technically invoking scriptures, but I think the woman is a buffoon, and I'd love to know when she last set foot in a church.

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors." -Emily Bronte

The problem with Ann is that she's mostly interested in making people angry, stirring it up. I wouldn't mind if there seemed to be some kind of purpose behind it. But I don't see much, other than attention for her to sell her books. I've seen her be very funny in her columns, biting, and with a point. But many times it's just these verbal grenades she throws out there to watch people scatter, and then she sits back and says "Gosh, what did I say to make you so angry?"

I had a professor tell our class on Friday that Ann Coulter, "the anorexic", had said that " 'Jews needed to be perfected' =this is how the concentration camps came to be."  I asked him if those were her exact words about Jews needing to be  perfected and he said, "oh, yes, and Michael Savage was completely outraged by them".  I'm thinking, "YOU listen to Michael Savage?! Yeah, sure." So, um, Ann Coulter and the evil Right want to bring back the concentration camps, never mind they are the same as Nazis, right?  That's their party line-Bush is Hitler, Republicans are White Supremacists...when the truth is there is nothing but anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic crap escaping from the Left's lying lips year in and out.  I like the point someone made about the Palestinian flags and gear at all their rallies, no one ever  questions their beliefs in regards to their outright support for terrorism against JEWS!

     I knew that what she said was exactly what the new testament had said, and that she had been jumped again by a true hater (hiding behind the 'true Jew' label- he's a Liberal first and foremost). Come to find out, I was right.   It's not popular, but that is what Christians believe, for the most part.  Christ is the Saviour.  You need to be a follower and believer of Christ to be saved. GASP!   Look, personally, I do not care for the 'perfected' language, and we could start arguing about biblical and religious issues, but let's not go there because that misses the point of  why what's happening to Ann (once again) a lesson for all of us in regards to the MSM and their agenda, which is extremely dangerous for the future of this United States of America.

    There is an atheist group that I read about on the CNS site who has come right out and stated they have the goal of destroying religious beliefs, all religion needs to be wiped out.  That's OKAY, right?  No problem with that dogma in the MSM or with the LEFT, never mind the Right.  But Ann states a tenet of the Christian faith, whether you agree or not, and she is ravaged AGAIN.  I love how the so-called tolerant leftist male (and some female) reporters immediately mock her looks, weight, lack of marital status, e.t.c. when they talk about her.   Bunch of scum, low-life misogynists pretending to be 'pro-woman' or whatever, but their true colors can't be hidden. How dare Michael Savage call her a 'whore'!!  Screw you, Savage.  I'm so sick of that kind of perjorative against women.  

   The treatment Ann receives really is revealing about the truth of the LEFT today.   And, that they hate Christianity.  No doubt.  Not that they love Judaism.  They sure don't, but it's useful to it to go after Ann and conservatives with their smears.

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

I read this entire thread and tried to figure out what I have learned. Correct me if I am wrong:

Jews don't believe what Christans believe and Christans don't believe what Jews believe.

Despite the name calling, I think that pretty much sums it up. Oh, and Ann Coulter has had to explain herself, yet again. So that's two things we have learned. But wait! We already knew both of those, didn't we?

 Folks, there are bigger fish to fry ... like stopping the socialism that is about to take control of our beloved country! Can we concentrate on that for a while? mazel tov and PTL!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Lighten up, RJ...I was just kidding around with you.  I should have put one of those 'smiley' symbols at the end of my sentence.  [Plus a closing bracket]  Anyway, I'm sure I've made more than my share of grammatical errors, so I'm certainly no candidate for grammar policeman.  Sorry it seemed that way.

Jer