
Sure, it was just an acceptance speech at some silly awards ceremony. However, when Hollywoodans say ridiculous things on television that media applaud along with the Hollywoodans in attendance, someone's got to point out the inanity.
As such, when Sally Field said at Sunday's Emmy awards ceremony as reported by the MRC's Tim Graham, "And, let's face it, if the mothers ruled the war, there would be no (expletive) wars in the first place," I can't sit idly by without contesting such nonsense.
After all, it appears Field has never heard of some famous female leaders who brought their nation's to war:
- Indira Gandhi, a mother who not only supported Bangladesh militarily in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971, but also started India's nuclear program presiding over that country's first nuclear test.
- Israel's Golda Meir, a mother who, as Prime Minister, successfully defeated Syria in 1973's Yom Kippur War.
- Great Britain's Margaret Thatcher, a mother who was nicknamed "The Iron Lady" in 1976 by the Soviet defense ministry's newspaper for her famous statement:
The Russians are bent on world dominance, and they are rapidly acquiring the means to become the most powerful imperial nation the world has seen. The men in the Soviet Politburo do not have to worry about the ebb and flow of public opinion. They put guns before butter, while we put just about everything before guns.
Once becoming Prime Minister, Thatcher became President Reagan's most important ally in the Cold War against the Soviet Union, and oversaw the 1983 war in the Falklands.
More recently, there were a number of Congressional mothers who voted in favor of the October 2002 resolution to invade Iraq, certainly including Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY).
Finally, let us not forget the female terrorists around the world who are participating in acts of barbarism against innocent civilians while themselves having children. For instance, Meryl Yourish posted the following in the comments section at Hot Air this morning:
So, is [Field] counting the mothers like this one, who blew herself up and took four Israelis with her? Or these?
You know what? People who think that all the world's problems would be solved if women ruled the world are full of crap.
And I say this as a woman and a feminist.
I couldn't have said it any better.
As an aside, please see Kevin McCullough's "Yes, Sally Field, There Really Are Evil Mothers Too" for more on the Flying Nun's stupidity.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.















Comments Policy
A reminder to all the
September 17, 2007 - 13:12 ET by motherbeltA reminder to all the feminists who go around saying women are better at certain things: If that's true, you'd better be ready to accept the idea that MEN are better at certain things. You just might not want to go down that road....
except in their mind men are
September 17, 2007 - 13:20 ET by Conservative Voiceexcept in their mind men are never better, only equal.
...looks like liberal women
September 17, 2007 - 13:23 ET by TruthMonger...looks like liberal women are much better at being sexist...I will give them that...
But like we said earlier if there were no moms at least there wouldn't be any abortion - but also no clean dishes or laundry...
Just a 1-day work week and 24-hour football:)
morons
September 17, 2007 - 13:16 ET by iveseenitallI've liked this nitwit in some things over the years. Now I see she's just another airhead--an immature, liberal moron from the left. Might have known...
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
P.S. You poor intelligent, mature women out there. The MSM will never represent you. A shame.
Sally has, or used to have,
September 17, 2007 - 13:22 ET by bassndudeSally has, or used to have, great legs! Is or used to be cute to. Dont need a brain for that. She just demonstrated that.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
cat fight!
September 17, 2007 - 13:25 ET by TruthMongerMom "peace" would be exactly the way it is on desperate housewives - nice and friendly these women are!
...and then there's my wife
September 17, 2007 - 13:26 ET by Hero Squad...and then there's my wife, who once declared war on the mother of a boy who was teasing and picking on our daughter at a preschool picnic, and refused to do anything about it. That picnic... heh, talk about shock and awe!
That kid and my daughter are in the same first grade class now, and curiously enough, it has been incident-free between the two of them.
I think Sally got it completely bass-ackwards - a good mother is going to take action and defend her children with all means necessary faster than you can say "appeasement."
Anyway, I always thought, "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."
*****
"Why would the library ban a book like The Six Bunny-Wunnies Freak Out?" - Linus Van Pelt
...or a mother protecting
September 17, 2007 - 13:31 ET by TruthMonger...or a mother protecting her cubs...
I remember this as a line of thinking after 9/11 - moms were supposedly pissed off and wanted someone's head on a platter...remember that? Sally forgot that one too...
BTW does this mean that Sally is also against women in combat - in terms of pentagon policy...?
My favorite Sally Field
September 17, 2007 - 13:34 ET by Lame CherryI was pondering how Sally would rectify her Oprah appearance several years ago when she said, "Yeah a woman gets in her few good shots with a man in a fight, but she looses in the end because the man is bigger".
This was right after her crash and I always wondered what kind of liberal wonders like Burt Reynolds let her get so out of control she was wailing on them and then they had to beat the bajesus out of her to settle her down.
Which brings one to modern Sally in wondering if spouse abuse is part of her pacification process of no wars for the world.
I will instead choose to remember her 30 years ago in a Burt movie wearing a t shirt and looking hot back then and not the current idiot liberal who wasted her entire life.
Thankfully FOX bleeped the dunce and saved her from herself.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
I'd like to believe that
September 17, 2007 - 13:41 ET by RackieI'd like to believe that Miss Sally has had a small stroke and is not thinking clearly now, but then again, ......
Any one heard of
September 17, 2007 - 13:44 ET by River DogAny one heard of Boudicca?
How about Joan of Arc?
Loraina Bobbits?
What about Wendy O Williams?
Any one heard of
September 17, 2007 - 13:44 ET by River DogAny one heard of Boudicca?
How about Joan of Arc?
Loraina Bobbits?
What about Wendy O Williams?
I spent 10 years in the
September 17, 2007 - 13:46 ET by BruzillaI spent 10 years in the Navy, doing a job that was restricted to men only. I spent another 14 years working for the Navy to support the guys who were doing what I used to do, so even though we were contractors we were 100% men. I think I have a pretty good read on how men run things when they are in charge. Now I work for a company of over 9,000 employees, and women make up about 80% of the workforce. Women dominate every level of management, so I think it's fair to say that this is a great example of how things run with women in charge.
So, what is the difference between how men run things and how women run things? Not much. The only difference I've seen is in the dress code. In a male-dominated environment, the dress code is "business attire, business casual attire, or casual attire. In this company it's broken down for men into shirts with collars, dress slacks, shirt and tie, and for women into just about every manner of dress you can imagine. All the rest of the work environment, the back stabbing, apple polishing, ass kissing, screwing over, lording over, inefficiency, cost over-runs, schedule non-adherence, etc., is all here.
Isn't Sally Field bi-polar?
September 17, 2007 - 13:54 ET by MightyMouthIsn't Sally Field bi-polar? Or did she just play one on TV?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
LOL MM -- well she sounded
September 17, 2007 - 13:58 ET by Jack BauerLOL MM -- well she sounded more rational on ER.
And she was nuts on that.
Maybe she wasn't acting when
September 17, 2007 - 14:02 ET by oldArmyMaybe she wasn't acting when she played "Sybil"
Mothers are incapable of killing?
September 17, 2007 - 14:05 ET by BritcomOkay, Let me try to understand what this statement implies: "And, let's face it, if the mothers ruled the war, there would be no (expletive) wars in the first place,".
Are we supposed to gather from that statement that Mothers are incapable of killing? Oh, I beg to differ.
According to NRLC.org there have been "Over 40 Million Abortions in U.S. since 1973";
100% of those abortions were committed by a mother and nearly 100% of those abortions resulted in the death of at least one innocent and helpless human being.
"11 mothers are on death row for killing their own children." - About.com
There are "several thousand cases from 1990 to 1999 involving mothers who killed their children" - WomensEnews.org
What about Mothers who go to war?
"More than 155,000 women have served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Among their ranks are more than 16,000 single mothers." - Truthout.org
That should be enough to shatter any illusion.
Sally
September 17, 2007 - 14:07 ET by Gordon SchumwayIs there some ingredient in Boniva which affects more than Sally's healthy bones? Has her brain calcified into bone too?
Just once-a-month Boniva!
Is Barry Manilow taking Boniva?
Gordo
Melmac
Gordon,
September 17, 2007 - 19:22 ET by BlondeI'm glad you posted that.
I was trying to remember the name of the drug Sally shills for. My mom takes it. I think I'll take a few minutes and write the manufacturer....I don't want to have some anti-war freakazoid pushing drugs to the elderly, particularly not my mom. IIRC, this particular 1x mo. pill is about $75 a pop.
I'd suggest my fellow posters here do the same.
Shut these hollydolly's up once and for all. If I wanted their opinion, I'd vote for them.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
}}---> Barry takes Boniva
September 17, 2007 - 19:27 ET by Cool ArrowYes, Barry takes Boniva. He refuses to disclose where he takes Boniva, but has admitted he takes Boniva often.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Why do women fall into the
September 17, 2007 - 14:09 ET by greenfairieWhy do women fall into the silly trap that they're completely nonviolent and can solve things without fighting? Would the world really be a better place if mothers like Ma Barker and Susan Smith were in charge of it?
Yes, that Sally Fields
September 17, 2007 - 14:10 ET by balboaYes, that Sally Fields really is the worst, isn't she. What a stupid human being...
And I thought I would NEVER
September 17, 2007 - 14:12 ET by MightyMouthAnd I thought I would NEVER agree with an opinion of yours. I apologize Amigo.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
tuff day for bal
September 17, 2007 - 14:14 ET by TruthMongerbal is bumming out, man...
entertainment is the guy's church after all...
It's not my "church," I
September 17, 2007 - 14:40 ET by balboaIt's not my "church," I just think it's silly to villify someone for stating their opinion on a controversial subject, spoken from the POV of a mom.
you must no like Bill Maher very much then:)
September 17, 2007 - 14:44 ET by TruthMongerVilify - to make vicious and defamatory statements about...
Liberal - able to dish it out but not receive...
Good grief...I think
September 17, 2007 - 14:50 ET by balboaGood grief...I think there's a difference between a heartfelt statement in an acceptance speech and a guy on a politics show trying to throw zingers around.
It's fine to disagree with Sally, but bringing up Golda and Thatcher as proof of moms willing to go to war is not the point. Her statement wasn't policy, it was a nice sentiment. I don't expect Sally to go out campaigning for only moms to rule countries.
Heartfelt statement? Come on
September 17, 2007 - 15:17 ET by rimskyHeartfelt statement? Come on Bal. These people use the podium to beat up on Bush/Republicans/Conservatives when ever they get the chance. Her statement was aimed squarely at policy.
Got it now...
September 17, 2007 - 15:24 ET by TruthMonger"it was a nice sexist, partisan sentiment" said the unbiased liberal
So she was aiming her
September 17, 2007 - 16:13 ET by balboaSo she was aiming her statement at the Bush administration, imploring them to use more moms in their decision-making. Gotcha.
I'm with ya, bal - she
September 17, 2007 - 16:18 ET by TruthMongerI'm with ya, bal - she wasn't singling out Bush at all - why would anyone ever think that? It didn't even occur to me in a millions years...
That's just something she's always said really...
My statements here don't sound silly to you do they? They really shouldn't...
I understand that she is
September 17, 2007 - 16:22 ET by balboaI understand that she is currently lobbying to have Dubya bring his mom in to high-level cabinet meetings, starting dictating policy. Then she's going to picket the Capitol so that all non-mom congressmen are thrown out. In fact, I heard, she wants them to all be "congressmoms."
well then
September 17, 2007 - 16:26 ET by TruthMonger...not so innocent as she would have us believe - harummph...
Then, she's going to move
September 17, 2007 - 16:33 ET by balboaThen, she's going to move on to local mayoral races, fighting fiercely for moms to be in charge of all municipalities. All moms, all the time. Mother Goose is her all time idol, followed closely by Old Mother Hubbard, Mother Earth, Mother Nature...
then she will have MOAB's
September 17, 2007 - 16:37 ET by vrwc13then she will have MOAB's changed to FOAB"S, before she outlaws them altogether.
Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore
...and she's supposed to
September 17, 2007 - 16:42 ET by TruthMonger...and she's supposed to have "no agenda!"
yeah right...
Did you know that in Smokey
September 17, 2007 - 16:47 ET by balboaDid you know that in Smokey and the Bandit, she originally wanted Burt Reynolds to call her "Momma Frog," not just "Frog." This was a big bone of contention on the normally amicable set.
bal, this thing has so many
September 17, 2007 - 16:50 ET by TruthMongerbal, this thing has so many levels my tin hat is absolutely melting...
trust no one
The Truth Is Out
September 17, 2007 - 16:59 ET by balboaThe Truth Is Out There.
I am indeed...mongering
September 17, 2007 - 17:03 ET by TruthMongerI am indeed...mongering away...cape flying in the breeze...
Just don't get me started on my tragic past, tho:(...
Vrwc13, she is too late.
September 17, 2007 - 23:16 ET by MikeBVrwc13, she is too late. The Russians have developed a more powerful FAE bomb, which they have dubbed the FOAB, because it is more powerful than the Massive Ordinance Air Blast bomb deployed by the U.S.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Must...
September 17, 2007 - 15:26 ET by Jack BauerMust Hang Sally.
...i think you better slow
September 17, 2007 - 15:40 ET by TruthMonger...i think you better slow your must hang down...
catchy...!
Women as Warriors
September 17, 2007 - 14:19 ET by The SquigglerI went out and looked today for Women as Warriors and extracted a pretty good list HERE.
Two things if women ruled the world
September 17, 2007 - 14:22 ET by mattm1. There would be wars.
2. Only men would be sent to fight them.
And 3. The uniforms would
September 17, 2007 - 14:24 ET by MightyMouthAnd 3. The uniforms would be much "prettier" than they are now.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
And the wars would get
September 17, 2007 - 16:18 ET by Free StinkerAnd the wars would get started because some woman from country B wore the same outfit to a party as a woman from country A.
Don't mess with Texas moms...
September 17, 2007 - 16:23 ET by TruthMongerEver heard what those Texas cheerleader moms do to each other? Unspeakable...
And...
September 17, 2007 - 16:30 ET by MightyMouthThe geneva convention would have to be modified to exclude "hair pulling" as well as mustard gas and cluster bombs. :-o
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
The many positives...
September 17, 2007 - 16:30 ET by TruthMonger...on the bright side we could finally abolish the UN and handle everything on Oprah...
By the way when is Oprah gonna squeeze out a few puppies? Or is pregnancy not part of the Harpo missions statement?
I'm of the opinion that
September 17, 2007 - 16:36 ET by MightyMouthI'm of the opinion that Oprah shouldn't reproduce. Can't she just adopt some poor white kid from Chicago?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
yeah, like
September 17, 2007 - 16:40 ET by TruthMongeryeah, like Ubama...?!?!?
FYI spread the word - the MSM is saying "Usama" now instead of "Osama" which ryhmes with...?!?!?
"RUSH: Thanks for the call out there, Tina. I appreciate it very much. What she was talking about, ladies and gentlemen, with this Obama-Ubama, I observed on Monday that virtually every network, Fox has always done this in their graphics and in their stylebook, the talent talking about Bin Laden, started calling him Usama Bin Laden. Now, Fox has been doing it, but the others have not. They always have been calling him Osama. All of a sudden, because I read the stitches on the fastball, I started noticing they're all now calling him Usama Bin Laden. I thought, "Why would this be?" And I thought maybe to distinguish him between Barack Obama and so forth. So, I jokingly and with great creativity and ingenuity for a couple days, referred to him as Barack Ubama, and they haven't picked up on it. I don't care if they do. It doesn't change anything if they pick up on it."
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_091407/content/01125118.guest.html
Watch TV
September 17, 2007 - 14:44 ET by allanfI guess women never argue. Evidently Sally has not seen Reality TV shows such as the Bachelor.
Perhaps she should watch
September 17, 2007 - 23:09 ET by MikeBPerhaps she should watch Jerry Springer or Maury Povich. Now, there are some grounded, down-to-earth, pacific, intelligent females. And, a good many of them are mommies...they just aren't sure who the daddies are.
Did you hear about the liberal woman who got an abortion? She wasn't sure if she was the mother.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
And let's be clear, Fields
September 17, 2007 - 14:50 ET by Darth DutchAnd let's be clear, Fields wasn't saying it was "women" who are better than men, just "mothers". So apparently only if you have given birth to a baby are you capable of being compassionate, smart, wise, etc.
So women who cannot or choose not to have a baby are on the par with us evil, stupid men.
Dutch
Hi mom!
September 17, 2007 - 16:28 ET by TruthMonger...there goes the "mother of all battles" schtick - actually it left the building with Hussein on a rope didn't it...?
Husseins mom would be proud...
That way she can exclude
September 17, 2007 - 16:30 ET by Hero SquadThat way she can exclude Condi from her hypothesis, I guess.
*****
"Why would the library ban a book like The Six Bunny-Wunnies Freak Out?" - Linus Van Pelt
WOW!!! You love me, you
September 17, 2007 - 15:30 ET by Prez RudyWOW!!! You love me, you REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY love me now!
pathetic~~
Women of Power
September 17, 2007 - 15:38 ET by TocanoI decided to check and see how many nations have women at the helm. I was surprised by how many.
http://en.wikipedia....
And that's only currently; not historically.
The only way this rant is anything other than a narcissistic, misandristic/philogynistic outburst is if every one of them have found solutions to tenuous situations without the need for military or police force. Based on about 5 minutes of reading, I'm thinking that's not true.
Oh the drama
September 17, 2007 - 15:45 ET by MindwerkzLook, I dont really think her comments were all that big of a deal myself. Certainly not as if someone running for president had commented on how out troops are mindless mercenaries straif bombing entire cities, or claiming that ethnic cleansing was a good thing. I mean that would be as insane as accepting soft money from a communist country filtered through felons... but I digress.
No her comment was on par with a miriad of other insane and retarded statements I hear every day. The problem is in the defending her. What she said was moronic, it is so common place that it hardly deserves recognition, but when someone does point out its stupidity, to defend it really shows that persons true colors. As the saying goes, screw diversity, celibrate compitance. Her statements not only point out her lack of world history, but clearly a large bias to the point of irrational babel.
On the other side of Kevin
September 17, 2007 - 16:13 ET by drillanwrOn the other side of Kevin McCullough's assessment ...
How responsible are the (proud) mothers of homicide bombers, IED makers, knife sharpening beheaders, and half-assed pilots who fly planes filled with innocent people into buildings filled with innocent people ... mothers included ... for starting, participating in and promoting war, Mrs. Gump??!!!?
On another note, does anyone know if Fields DOES have a son/daughter in the war?
She sort of gave the impression she does.
Sally Field
September 17, 2007 - 16:28 ET by pocomocoField, whose career has consisted of mouthing the words written by screen writers, found herself in unfamiliar territory as we witnessed Sunday night her attempt to make a comment without the benefit of a script, which demonstrated that she was incapable of putting two cogent sentences together.
And the comment, lacking any historical facts of women’s role in war going back seven millennia, made it nothing more than wishful thinking on her part.
It's Sally Field
September 17, 2007 - 16:47 ET by CTWhat part of STUPID is in question here/
Geez! She acts as if she
September 17, 2007 - 18:20 ET by drillanwrGeez! She acts as if she just won a friggin' BIKE ... It's not even a Barbie! Or The Jelly Of The Month Club!
Kevin McCullough's list
September 17, 2007 - 18:24 ET by watchful eyesMcCullough's list from his "Yes, Sally Field, There Really Are Evil Mothers Too" forgot the one massive war totally in the hands of mothers, the killing for convenience, of millions of babies through abortion. I imagine Sally Fields is an advocate of that war, which costs more than any other we can list.
I used to work at a job
September 17, 2007 - 20:29 ET by ckc1227I used to work at a job where 97% of my fellow employees were women, most of them mothers.
I still have nightmares.......
S***y F***d
September 17, 2007 - 21:55 ET by DEVILDOCMOMMy son returned from Iraq where he served 11 month as a Navy Corpsman with the 5th Marines. He was on a convoy almost every day. We are so proud of his service and as a mother I TOTALLY SUPPORT THE MISSION. I so resent these loser Hollywoodites speaking for "all Mothers". The first thing I did this morning is email Roche, the drug company she is a spokesman for, and let them know I was changing any drugs they make to drugs from other companies. This is especially for boniva, her "signature" drug. Hit them in the pocket book...I guess it is all they understand.
DDMOM,
September 17, 2007 - 22:03 ET by BlondeFirst, a big shout out to your son. I thank him for his service.
Second, a big shout out to you. For being his Mom.
Lastly, thanks for posting the name of the drug company...I posted earlier that my elderly mum takes Boniva....But I'm going to write them a nice little e-mail. They need to dump this loser.
I've not seen you here before, DDMOM, but I surely hope to see you again!
Best regards.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Wouldn't you rather him not
September 17, 2007 - 23:04 ET by balboaWouldn't you rather him not have had to go at all?
NO NO NO
September 18, 2007 - 00:07 ET by DEVILDOCMOMI love my son, he was born when I was 40 and is my only child. HOWEVER, if brave young men (and women) do not defend our country who will? I do not want to be using my brand new CCW defending my home in years to come. The awful truth is that Iran will dominate Iraq if we withdraw from that war. When Iran dominates the area it will lead to increased terror activity against our interests not only in the Persian Gulf, but in the entire world.
Bal: Yout must not know
September 18, 2007 - 11:28 ET by BDBal:
Yout must not know too many of those of us in the military or our families. My family realizes that "A ship is safe in the harbor, but that is not what ships are for."
IF my daughter decides to follow her old man into the military ten years from now, I will worry about her every day.
But I will also be exceedingly proud of the likely first free choice as an adult she will have made. I will be proud of any career she will choose (much like my own father who was proud of mine- even though no one else in my family has ever served) but there is something special of raising you right hand and swearing to defend the nation at the possible cost of your life.
Ships in the harbor
September 18, 2007 - 14:02 ET by Conservative VoiceActually ships are more dangerous in times of war...Pearl Harbor...when the military has objectives then they are aware of their surroundings and thereby safer ( not to mention keeping us safer because the battle is off our land ). Whereas ships in the harbor, its easier to relax, even fall asleep at the dangers around you.
i heard the "speech" on Opie & Anthony
September 17, 2007 - 22:13 ET by lunaticcringeradiocould there be any more of an idiotic rambling um um um um um um what is the word im looking for, oh yeah stoooopid way to set an example.
thank you sally, you are a perfect example of the non thinking left.
lunaticcringeradio
"Mankind Regresses But The World Applauds"
September 17, 2007 - 22:42 ET by w0tm"Mankind Regresses But The World Applauds".
There was a time in human history when the wisdom and advice of chosen elders was valued and followed. When did the words of the famous (or infamous) become the preferred advice followed by billions? The change must have occurred thousands of years ago.
Even thousands of years ago, otherwise intelligent people followed and even worshipped mortal beings we now know to have been idiots or demagogues; idiots or demagogues who all possessed one common trait, the ability to convince others to accept and embrace their thoughts and to do so with unthinking abandon. The world today is mostly made up of civilizations where emotion trumps truth and facts every time. Civilizations where "leaders" have the ability to convince others to follow them into Hell, sometimes truly Hell. Hitler, Attila the Hun, Caesar and untold numbers of others back into history so ancient we have no record of it.
So it has been this way for (almost) time immemorial. However, even today, primitive tribes, who have little or no contact with "civilization", still value and follow the wisdom and advice of their wise and experienced elders. They ignore the words of those who they know to be inexperienced, inept, dull of mind or ignorant of truth and facts. No matter how persuasive or charismatic such a person might be. Yes, even primitive tribes can include "charismatic" individuals; they are charismatic to their peers.
It is in the human genes to want to let others lead their lives for them. As if others know what is better for them than they know themselves. Often, just because others say that is so!
"Think for yourself" is curiously not a normal human trait. Should a primitive tribe follow an ignorant individual or demagogue of their tribe, they often suffer. "Survival of the fittest" is not just physical but also mental. Perhaps the usually short span between "cause" and "effect" is what has changed. Today, effect is often too separated from cause for many people to associate the two. As an example, pick any government program of the last 65 years considering true cause and effect and then try to gain acceptance of that true cause of the effect by more a small percentage of people. You'll not succeed.
Be it following an ignorant but persuasive person across a desert a wise elder knows to avoid or trusting another tribe when the wise and experienced elder knows to do so may bring short-term peace most people desire by nature but also knows is a path to long-term destruction. Mankind is not as it once was.
Have we really "advanced" from the most basic of instincts? We seem to have lost that basic instinct of self preservation as civilizations formed and individuals began to wish others to lead them and even think for them? For reasons that defy logical explanation, many seek those whose primary "qualifications" are their notoriety and powers of persuasion. Millions of people last week preferred the words of people who have absolutely no experience with military and geopolitical matters but who "feel", "care" and "emote" well in public over those who have spent their lives studying and learning the complexities of another civilization. A civilization that contains a significant number of individuals whose life's purpose is to kill everyone but those who follow their religious beliefs.
Personally, I believe the world has NOT "progressed". If anything, we have regressed and are now on a path to destruction all for short-term peace that is simple to understand by nothing more than emotion but a long-term Armageddon understood only by the wisest of the elders we mostly shun. If our species survives long enough, we will eventually prefer to be lead by the most ignorant and most persuasive among us.
If you require brain surgery, would you prefer a Harvard medical school brain surgery specialist M.D. or someone who happened to stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (but "cares" and is very persuasive)? The answer is obvious but, when the question is changed to war and peace and the survival or extinction of mankind, the Holiday Inn Express guest of last night seems to be the choice of today's "21st century intelligent man".
I'm sure of it. We have NOT progressed. We now only await another Hitler or Napoleon to lead us into Armageddon. Many such people are among us now. Mass media has enabled the inept and the dullards among us to be listened to and to be followed by millions. The "mass media" we so hoped would bring truth and knowledge to the majority of mankind has done just the opposite. It has allowed demagogues to flourish and the ignorant to become that "one eyed man who, in the land of the blind, is king".
"The Flying Nun" and spokesperson for an osteoporosis medication; that's "highly qualified" to me! Just point the direction to Hell and I'll follow her. No, sorry, that's what many others say.
I'll take my chances with the elders of the loin cloth primitive African tribes.
I agree with the general
September 17, 2007 - 22:56 ET by zfI agree with the general thesis, but I don't think it's fair to say Thatcher and Meir "led" their countries into war (don't know enough about Ghandhi to make a call) it's more accurate to say they dared to fight back and defend themselves from tyranny and the evil actions of others individuals and nations.
That said, there are certainly women leaders throughout history who started or created wars for no really good reason or at the least more selfish reasons. Cleopatra, Queen Elizabeth 1, Mary Queen of Scots, and Catherine the Great come immediately to mind.
And that's the problem with feminism, non-pacifist woman like Thatcher and Meir are the role models girls and young woman *should* look up to. Tough women who were willing to make a stand against tyranny and oppression, who were willing to fight for freedom. Not cream puffs like Sally Field or the flip side of the coin militant feminist autocrats like Hilary Clinton. Or women like Paris Hilton who "dare" to defy "convention" by being as boorish and hedonistic as the worst male philanderers.