Bill Maher Can’t Get NYT Baghdad Correspondent to Bash Bush

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As the new season of HBO's "Real Time" began Friday night, I watched with great trepidation, especially given host Bill Maher's disgraceful special on that network back in July wherein he spent virtually two-thirds of the program bashing President Bush and anyone with an "R" next to his/her name.

With that in mind, my stomach started turning during his opening monologue as he made joke after joke about our president. I was put in further unease as he introduced his first guest, New York Times correspondent Damien Cave, currently in Baghdad, who seemed likely invited on to speak the liberal party line about how the surge is failing, and how things are much worse in Iraq than the Administration wants to admit.

Miraculously, my concerns were all for naught, for Cave, much like the Times' Baghdad bureau chief John Burns, sees good things happening in Iraq, which appeared to catch Maher off guard. For instance, when Maher asked, "What is the morale of our troops, because I know President Bush always says that the troops are steadfastly all behind him - uh, I have my doubts. What is your view?"

Cave's response was clearly not what Maher was expecting (video available here courtesy of our friend Ms. Underestimated):

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You know, it's actually kind of a mixed deal. I mean I talked to a commander the other day who said that the political debate at home is bizarro-land and something that he doesn't connect with at all. He's just here to do his mission. And I think that's probably the view of most soldiers in Iraq. They're just here to do their job and they don't think too much beyond that. Morale, I would say, is probably surprisingly high in some units. And then in other units, there is the sense of ‘well, gosh, is this really working?' ‘why am I here for the third time?' But, I have to say that's probably rare. Most of the units that I spent time with, again are just focused on trying to do the job in front of them. It's about clearing the neighborhood that they're in, or trying to get the guys that they know are there. But you don't hear a whole lot of the chatter that you might hear in Washington when you're out with the soldiers.

This didn't make Maher happy. So like a typical liberal, he moved the argument in the direction of whether or not our enemy was happy:

But what about the morale of the insurgents? Is there any doubt among these people that we are not going to outlast them? I mean we do have debates on how long the surge will last. It seems to be a debate about a matter of months, sometimes a matter of years. Come on...these guys are gonna wait us out for as long as it takes. Isn't that the bottom line in Iraq?

Amazing. Just another liberal who can't possibly believe that America indeed can win this crucial battle in the war on terrorism regardless of what's being said to him by someone there.

However, Maher's position became even more disgusting when he posed the following to Cave:

If Saddam Hussein were alive and running for president right now, and he used the old Reagan line, "Are you better off now than you were four years ago," do you think that would attract voters?"

Extraordinary. Yet, to fully comprehend the nature of this disgraceful question, the reader has to watch the video to see the sickeningly smug look on Maher's face after he posed it. Fortunately, Cave didn't see it Maher's way:

Well, I mean, I have to say that there's a lot of people who do believe that their lives were better under Saddam Hussein. But to think that they would want Saddam Hussein back is I would say probably incorrect. I mean, what they're trying to say when they say that is that "We don't want to be part of an occupation. At least he was one of us, and at least then we knew what the rules were." I mean, in this situation, walking down the street could get you killed for reasons that have nothing to do with anything but your name. Under Saddam Hussein it was a little more organized, and for a lot of people, that's what they'd like to return to. But the idea that Iraqis want a dictatorship is, you know, is something that's, I, I just find hard to believe.

Not for people like Maher, of course, who has stuck to this absurd view for years that Iraqis were actually better off with a murderous dictator than the possibility of democracy. Sadly, Maher wasn't finished trying to get Cave to bash the Administration:

Do we have a moral obligation, you think, to this country that we're not living up to now that we've pretty much wrecked it?

Almost as if Maher wasn't listening to anything this man said, wouldn't you agree? Cave responded:

Well, it's funny, one of the things that comes up a lot here among commanders and among the press corps is the way that the debate at home seems to be mainly focused on the impact on Washington or among constituents. You know, it's hard to see that there is deep, there is some real deep thinking going on about what the moral responsibility is to Iraqis. I think Americans forget often that, as I said, most Iraqis are victims of violence and not perpetrators. And, we, you know, I think the country needs to figure out a way to decide what role we need to play or what the responsibility is. You know, for the Iraqi woman who has three kids and has fled her house, or the college students who I talked to a few months ago who were forced out of their country because they might get killed because they have a degree. You know, what America owes these people is something that at some point public officials and the public at large need to decide and need to think about beyond just the political debates at home.

Exactly right, and something that is missed on folks like Maher.

The reality is that to Maher and his ilk, Iraq is exclusively a political issue at home to be solely used to bash Bush and Republicans. As such, they ignore the millions of Iraqi lives at stake, as well as what happens to the war on terror if America loses this battle.

Sadly for them, this is only about poll numbers and the next election, and this is why folks like Maher and most of the media can't bear the thought of the surge working, and America turning what looked to be a huge loss in this region into an historic victory.

Alas, you have to wonder what kind of a person puts vindication and political opportunism ahead of America and Iraq's future.

*****Update: Glenn Reynolds isn't surprised by Cave's fair and honest assessment.

*****Update 2: Allah weighs in --

Given all the Times-bashing the righty blogosphere does, it’s worth acknowledging that their Iraq team plays it pretty straight: Cave, John Burns, Michael Gordon (whom the left loathes for his military “stenography”), Ed Wong, etc. It’d have been easy for Cave to seize this as an opportunity to make himself a media property by telling Maher what he wanted to hear. Kudos to him for resisting.

*****Update 3: Glenn Reynolds has more coverage concerning how the surge is working.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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Everyone knows the answer to your question, Noel:

 

"Alas, you have to wonder what kind of a person puts vindication and political opportunism ahead of America and Iraq's future."

Uhhh, Democrats?

(I think it's safe to say Cave won't be invited back.)

Bill Maher is indicative of

Bill Maher is indicative of all that is wrong with the world. There once was a time when every so often he would say something that rang more or less true with me. Lately, not so much. In recent times his views have gone so far off the grid, I cannot even subject myself to any of his childish diatribes, with him tilting at the windmills created by whatever mind altering substance he is comsuming these days. It's utter nonsense. Good to hear that Cave did not allow Bill's blustery and extreme socialist following to deviate his perspective on the situation in Iraq.

What happened to Maher is

What happened to Maher is simple. It's called "the 2000 election".

candid video

of Maher before makeup

“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

Noel

I apologize in advance, Noel, but I just absolutely cannot stomach Bill Maher and refuse to watch him.  So I skipped the vid.

The tell for me was this question:

But what about the morale of the insurgents?

That is just plain disgusting. 

Seriously, the man is deranged and deluded if he thinks anyone cares, furthermore, this is supposed to be a comedy show?

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

If Maher had been honest,

If Maher had been honest, his question would have been something like this: "But what about the morale of the insurgents? After all, all of us in the entertainment industry, nearly all of the newspaper editors, all of the broadcast "journalists", and every Democrat in the House and Senate have been doing everything we can to boost the morale of the terrorists with our calls to cut and run. Have our efforts done the insurgency any good at all?"

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

Come on, Mike

Your comment is far too cogent. 

Do you think Maher has a sincere bone in his body?

He's into his own smarmy schtick.  And that's all.

He's smarmy (oh how I love that word) and a complete jerk.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Ummm...if Maher had been

Ummm...if Maher had been honest and sober?  I realize those are two huge "if"s.  Or, perhaps if Maher had been honest and on his anti-psychotics? 

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

"Swarmy" I love

"Swarmy"

I love it!

Perfect description of him.   I never watch him either.

Sonny

There are absolutely some perfect words in the English language.

"smarmy" being one of them. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

"Swarmy" I love

"Swarmy"

I love it!

Perfect description of him.   I never watch him either.

But what about the morale of the insurgents?

Is it me or is this the first time I have ever heard a prominent lefty/lib/Hollywierd type actually speak of the existence of the morale of insurgents?  I thought it didn't exist.  To acknowledge that the insurgency has morale is to acknowledge that you can affect it.  The Dick Durbins/Bill Mahers of the world may have to adjust how they speak about our government/troops so as not to give them aide and comfort.....that'll never happen.  Could this be the beginning of something if it is being acknowledged here?

Redundant subject title

I understand completely. I actually enjoyed Maher's humor at one time but can't stand to watch him anymore either, not after he got so angry and irrational about the war. I'd bet he lost a sizable chuck of his audience for that very reason.

Worrying about troop morale now - thinking it must be terribly low - is coming from someone who apparently never ever thought to ask the troops. If he's so smart, why didn't he ask before now? Because he really didn't care. It didn't fit his [comedic?] anti-Bush narrative. That's not so smart if you ask me.

Great post Mr. Sheppard

This is a great post Mr. Sheppard and is the largest dichotomy of all in New York Times reporters lie, bribe and make up propaganda in America, but for some reason Baghdad has a moral effect on reporters in making them journalists.

I was grieved when John Burns moved up to London as I presumed the Times wouls install a wacko, but in reading your report it seems Mr. Burns provided an excellent source list and schooling for his replacement in telling the Truth. I doubt anyone will ever replace John Burns.........but I also doubt f mouth Maher will ever have on Mr. Cave again.

I can just imagine Maher's words to his producer after this interview was, "What the BLEEP! Why the BLEEP did you have this BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP on air. He is a BLEEP Bush supporter. What the BLEEP did you BLEEP I wanted. Is your BLEEP head up your BLEEP BLEEP."

You can probably read it as a featured Maher blog on Huffington Post.

 

PS. I want to once again have people thank this site for being the center of intelligence and etiquette online. Here you can find stories, information and even humor. There is nothing like Newsbusters online.

 

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It's a heckuva position to

It's a heckuva position to be in - in this case Mr. Maher's - that one is saddened when it's reported that America is having success in prosecuting a war. And that when reports emerge that we are having some progress, however limited, that one has to either discredit those reports (Greenwald, et al.) or expend energy changing the subject (as noted above).

I'll plead guilty to ignoring or trying to diminish bad news out of Iraq and focusing on the good. But that's because I hope that we will be successful in creating, however frail and incomplete, a self-governing democratic government in Iraq. Among other things, wasn't one of the lessons of 9/11 that a failed state (i.e., Afghanistan) is a fertile ground for radical Islamists to use? A failed Iraq, it seems to me, will be a much more difficult problem than the one we currently face.

If I am too willing to embrace good news because I want to win, what's the explanation for those, like our friend Bill Maher, who gleefully embrace the bad news and obstinately ignore the good?

One word: Bush. Their hatred of Bush is so intense that they somehow have convinced themselves that a Bush loss is good for America. And, from that, that any good news for America out of Iraq is good for Bush. 

And that - good news for Bush - they cannot allow to stand.

SMG 

 

 

 

 

Smuggy Smug Smug

Noel,

How could you tell that Maher had a "sickeningly smug look"  related to the "are you better off" question?  I thought that smug look was permanently fixed on his face.

<insert witty signature here>

Bill Maher -

Yet another massively indignant and completely manically depressed "Comic/Comedian" who really isn't directly affected by the Iraq War, but deludes himself into believing he is ... simply because he is exposed to it in the news. Narcissism is an art form for these people.

 People who really are directly affected, and still carrying on:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=49e_1187961985

 Billy Maher's

 Billy Maher's delusions are very obvious. For Maher, there is only invasion, overthrow and the absurd verbal masturbation represented by the idiotic question on the morale of the "insurgents". 

Maher asks no questions of the danger of terrorism, the danger of Islamo-fascist totalitarianism, the brutal nature of the Hussein's regime, nor the obvious and inconvenient fact that the lion’s share of the violence suffered by the Iraqis was, in fact, inflicted by their own government.

This overtly and dishonest hand-wringing by Maher is not only irresponsible and delusional, but it openly violates that concrete thing we like to call truth, or perhaps, simple honesty.

The psychopaths of Al Qaeda are fortunate enough to be able to rely on a transparent and competent propagandist like Billy Maher.

And like Blonde, I have no stomach to watch this degrading type of fool.  I would prefer to have a heat rash and be in traction.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Question about "insurgents"

Something has been bothering me for a long time and I want to air it out here for some commentary.

Back in the 1980s, the news media would refer to Central American private militias that sought to stop social change as "right wing death squads."

The "insurgents" in Iraq could correctly be considered as private militias that are attempting to prevent social change -- e.g., stopping democracy from taking root, keeping women in a submissive role, blocking "Dukes of Hazzard" from being shown on TV. 

So why aren't Iraqi "insurgents" called "right wing death squads"?

 <insert witty signature here>

Dr -

 

I see what you mean. 

They also call Hitler and the Nazi Party "right wing", when clearly they were The National Socialist German Workers Party.  They also were NOT "Christians", or conservative.  They were totalitarian fascists ... as was/is Stalin and Castro and Chavez and Kim dung Il ...

I am so sick of the left branding the bastard off-springs of their Communist ideology as "right wing" or "conservative".  It's one of their biggest lies.

Back in the 1980s, the news

Back in the 1980s, the news media also referred to the bad guys from the Middle East as "terrorists". No longer.

<>The only mind altering

<>The only mind altering substance that Billy boy uses is
SILICONE. From all the fake teenagers he dates. Its fried his brain.

Did anyone see this idiot on Bill OReilly??

OReilly needs to put him on weekly so the rest of America can see how stupid the Democrat spokespeople think.

 

bill marr has the

bill marr has the appearance of an anorexic koala bear.

When he's not leaving black mothers who birth his children to fend for themselves, he's bashing Republicans........(maybe he's just trying to be black).

Look, Bill Maher is not

Look, Bill Maher is not intelligent, he's instinctive.  He knows that if he brings Hugh Hefner new subscribers and gets the militant feminists off Hef's back, he'll get a lifetime E-ticket to the Playboy Mansion.  Then he can practice charming the pants off hot, young bimbos...or revert to the Rohypnol if his charms fail to ellicit the required response.

Maher knows where to get Hef new subscribers: college fraternity houses.  And he knows how to placate the militant feminists: loudly support abortion on demand and criticize anything George W. Bush does with smug sarcasm.  The new young Playboy subscribers know that the quickest way to get laid in college is to appear sensitive to "women's issues", but Hef, Maher and the fraternity monkeys need cover lest they appear too shallow.  And left-wing socio-political positions are always in vogue at college campuses...so wearing Che Guevara t-shirts, pimping socialized medicine and criticizing the war will always win friends and influence people.  They also know that they have to set themselves up as polar opposites to the "rigid", "uptight", "patriarchal", "hypocritical" Conservative Christians.  So they cozy up to liberal literary types...the Noam Chomskys, the Arthur Millers and the Lenny Bruces to give their disinterested and uninformed left-wing facades some texture and "credibility".  And they resort to lame, ignorant pot shots at the administration for anything from the war to health insurance.  Maher and his ilk never present workable solutions, they're not intelligent or interested enough to do that.  Instead, they hurl mindless abuse from the balconies...they heckle.  The fact that Damien Cave didn't whole-heartedly endorse Maher's DNC talking points had to have been a real source of frustration for the HBO host and his frat boy audience of trained seals.  Frankly, I'd prefer to draw my own conclusions on the surge after hearing what General Petreaus says.  I don't need it filtered by someone so shallow and uninformed as Bill Maher.

He absolutely loathes

He absolutely loathes victory.

"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested,
exiled, or hanged." -Abraham Lincoln

Wow

Awesome description of every lefty or Democrat I've ever known, fitzfong.  Because it's all about being "cool" and Democrat, not "uptight" and Republican.  I remember thinking like that in eight grade.  Then I graduated high school, grew a conscience, and started paying taxes.

Yep ...

Yep ...

Good Job Resisting

Good Job Resisting

Cave didn't "cave"

Cave didn't "cave"

The libs are well stocked

The libs are well stocked financially.  They control all aspects of the media including radio.  It is hard for soilders in the 3rd tour not to be discouraged and the temptation to allow that to be exploited is hard to resist. 

 What disgusts me is that they appear to be hitting really hard the argument that the "troops are tired" or the troops don't support this or that".  Lib attitude is screw the country.  If you can create dissention in the ranks it gives the libs just one more voter group and one more argument.

 

 Look at today's la slimes.  It is like someone sends a message and the media all zero in on that particular talking point. 

I bet Maher wanted to kill him

Well, this is what I've heard from my husband who keeps in touch with those that took over from him in Feb.  He was on the third tour as well and while somedays were discouraging-the day he found out one of our groomsmen had been killed by an IED, our kid's birthdays, anniversary and such, like most of the men and women over there.  They do get tired, especially when it's hot as hell and the idiot politicians, MSM crew and celebs yack about how stupid they are, how they "support them" by wanting to bring them home, et.al.  I'm not surprised at all that that prick didn't get the answers he wanted.  BTW, he showed up on a "Murder She Wrote" episode a few weeks ago, he is not much of an actor either.

What stands out from this

What stands out from this interview is that Damien Cave was an example of a professional journalist and Maher simply needs to grow up.

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“...the real distinction is between those who adapt their purposes to reality and those who seek to mold reality in the light of their purposes.” - Henry Kissinger

I have stuck up for Maher in

I have stuck up for Maher in the past; however, he seems "swarmy" and "cocky" now beyond belief.  Just watching him makes me uncomfortable.  Everytime he says the "F" word it makes me uptight.  If this guy EVER had any impact, that impact no longer exists.  

Ratings?

What are his ratings on HBO?  I simply cannot watch him because I know exactly what I will get - non-stop Bush bashing mixed with f-bomb interlaced tirades and the weakest of pseudo-intellectualism.  Not to mention that most of his guests follow his same boorish conservative hatred mantra.

At least Fox news puts on NPR lefties and others who truly make it fair and balanced - Even Bill O'reilly gives his guests the last word.  I doubt Maher could handle allowing a "right-winger" the last word on his show.

God Made man, but a monkey supplied the glue

kdizzydaze, I know what

kdizzydaze,

I know what you mean. I was flipping through channels earlier to day, saw him being interviewed by someone on some station and flipped right on by figuring he's just doing his usual "Bush is stupid, republicans are evil, blah blah blah".

But after a moment or two, I thought I'd check to make sure. Go back and what do you know. "Bush is stupid, republicans are evil, blah blah blah".

Bill Maher is a one note joke.

Maher in the old days

Maher used to be entertaining as a true political rebel during his ABC Politically Incorrect days.  He would regularly tweak the feminazis and the wacko Left - along with taking stabs at the far Right.

Many of you probably remember frequent guest Arianna Huffington (of the now infamously far-Left Huffington Post) was a conservative in those days and would help keep Maher honest on his ground breaking show.

My how things change.  Over the years Maher and Huffington both got sucked into the (non-thinking) group-think of Hollywood - although there were also a couple defining moments that pushed each of them over the edge.

Maher got smacked down hard and booted off the air for his idiotic plunge into moral relativism when he said of the 9/11 hijackers, "Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly."

OK, Bill, in a twisted kind of way, its brave to show your loyalty to a fanatically racist and totalitarian cause by committing suicide in order to kill thousands of innocent people - including a bunch of Muslims.  But Bill, are you really unsure about taking sides on this issue? Maybe even being a little biased in favor of your own civilization.  Geesh!

Now Maher is driven by hate and revenge over his viewer driven shunning and exile to HBO.  Like our fanatical enemies in the Middle East - he can no longer think straight.  But it doesn't make him "brave" when he pulls the pins on his anti-intellectual belt bombs from his damp cave on HBO.  It just makes him bitter and pathetic.

Arianna I have more sympathy for - given what she went through with her husband.  Now THAT was a sad and sordid affair... .

I keep hoping that someday she will wake-up and come home to her conservative roots.

Got What She Wanted

"Arianna I have more sympathy for - given what she went through with her husband.  Now THAT was a sad and sordid affair... ."

Are you talking about Michael Huffington, the ex-husband Arianna married for the green card, the money, the celebrity, the political juice and for which she recieved all of that and more?  You mean the guy who was "bisexual" and she knew it before marrying him?

Exactly how does that flip a "conservative" into a "Liberal"?

Wait a minute.  I think I get it now!  When she had to get a job and make money on her own in the land of Hollyweird, she had to "turn" Liberal in order to influence the "right" people, get work, become more of a celebrity, add to her political juice and make more money than a "conservative" could at that kind of job in southern California.

Maybe what flipped her highness was her humiliating defeat against Arnold Schwarzenegger for governor.  She ran as an Independent because she knew she didn't have street cred with the regional Democrats (her ex-husband and she were Republicans, well, at least her ex was one).  She also was humiliated when her ex-husband openly endorsed Arnold over her.  Poor, poor poopy face Arianna.  Yeah.  That's what probably drove her over the edge.  In order to make the big money, to get invited to the best party's, to have the most celebrity in Hollywood, you have to be a Democrat. 

Arianna's "conversion" is narcissistic and rapacious.  Her political ethics, and probably a few other "-ics", are capriciously derived from and filtered by how much it will benefit Arianna's ego and bank account.

Is it any wonder that Bill Maher is infatuated with Arianna?  Two peas in a pod in so many ways.

Killing them with kindness isn't working.  Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.

Seems Arianna's HuffyPuffy

Seems Arianna's HuffyPuffy site is digging for trouble ... again, with blogger Martin Lewis:

 

Coup De Disgrace

http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/08/25/coup-de-disgrace/

 

These people just don't know when to shut up and keep their noses away from their teeth.

"Given all the

"Given all the Times-bashing the righty blogosphere does, it’s worth acknowledging that their Iraq team plays it pretty straight"

One bad apple can spoil the barrel, too bad the opposite isn't true.

Now that video with

Now that video with Maher vs. Cave was just absolutely....

Priceless.

Wonder how long he will last at the NYT's....then again Burns did, which was a rarity.

I watched the video. 

I watched the video.  Maher had problems hearing the reporter, to quote "I can't hear this mother f---er!"  Class.

BTW the word is smarmy not swarmy unless the dictionary has added yet another slang word to its list.

I think BM should put himself in Iraq and report from there.  See how his humour translates.  Bill knows about bravery

It's no surprise to me that

It's no surprise to me that closet conservatives at the NYT would volunteer for transfer into a warzone.... it's got to be less dangerous to their health and career than being perennially surrounded by raving liberals.

Khyris

K,

Outstanding! :-) ns

Khyris.... What proof do

Khyris....

What proof do you have the Times' Iraq reporters are conservative, closet or otherwise?  And, if indeed they are, how come they weren't busted by the "faux liberal detectors" which I understand are employed by this far-left media collossus aka the NYT?

Jer

Reactions to Maher

After having heard & then read some comments on the Internet elsewhere, I was nearly ecstatic to come here and read some common sense analysis of this man's patently obvious anti attitude toward this nation and anything that might be even remotely associated with "Bush, Republicans, conservatives, Christians, red-state voters, etc."

The consistently negative, vicious, mean spirited, hateful, vengeful commentary, analysis, attitude, and gleeful desire for failure that are expressed by Maher & his ilk, are tiresome, in the least!

Positive commentary come across as absolutely forbidden when many of these guys interview or opine. All is not well in Iraq, Afghanistan, or the war on terror. Having taken up arms at one time in my life, I promise all the phrase "Snafu" came from military types to express their displeasure with the way things are going.

Do the anti folks in the media realize they cannot keep taking any, every, and all issues, events, happenings, articles, persons, plans, or whatever, and turning them into something bad or negative, & still be taken as serious non-partisan objective observers? Few expect all goes well all of the time. Even fewer are fool enough to believe there is nothing at all going well or succeeding. For these suffering from "Bush Derangement Syndrome" (BDS), they refuse to acknowledge anything positive, and have been always issuing qualifiers, limitations, exceptions, and "buts", to everything.

The 2000 elections, are over. As are the 2004 & 2006 elections. We have 2008 to look forward to. By characterizing all as bad, all as Bush's, conservatives, & Christians fault, these guys are doing everything in their power to set up voters to want a Democrat, because all that is wrong in everyones lives is the fault of the aforementioned.

How is it the "left" is so angry with Fox News  that they want it controlled, abolished, boycotted, hated, etc., when they own practically every other media venue in America & perhaps the world, with the exception of the "wildly successful conservative talk radio?" I mean, Fox ain't all "that" good! But, their following is tremendous, growing, and loyal. Liberal left media cannot say the same about virtually any of their enterprises that I know of.

What really irks me is that smug smile. Not that he has it & I sure don't want to deny him or others their selfish pleasures, but. Do they understand that there are folks around who see this, understand what they are saying & doing, and know that the crap they feed the people is just that, crap?

In short, I hope all of this smug condescension, this elitist snobbery, the academic superiority attitude, comes back to haunt them. These folks were positive they had crushed Bush in 2000. Then they "knew" he was devastated in 2004. Their apoplexy after those events was and remains, pathetic.

In short, that describes Mr. Maher.... pathetic.