UPDATE: Woman to be President in Episode Seven (h/t NBer msh1973)
Remember all that media chatter in January about the hit TV series "24" being conservative?
Well, likely to the applause of Jack Bauer's green fans, the producers announced the following Saturday (emphasis added, h/t NBer amber):
"24," the Emmy Award-winning series from Imagine and Twentieth Century Fox Television, will strive to become the first television production ever to save enough energy and reduce enough carbon emissions over the course of a season to render its entire season finale "carbon neutral."
Star Kiefer Sutherland has already filmed a public service annoucement which begins: "Global warming is a crime for which we are all guilty!"
Think that will put to rest all the "24" is conservative nonsense? No, I don't either. Regardless, here's their plan:
Introducing the use of biodiesel fuels to power generators and production vehicles;
Previously, the show powered its electric generators and large transportation vehicles with diesel fuel. This season, the show intends to use a combination of petroleum diesel and biodiesel (a clean-burning alternative fuel produced from renewable resources), which should result in emission reductions ranging from 5% on the vehicles to as much as 100% on the generators.
Running all on-stage production activities on "green power";
Through the L.A. Department of Water and Power, the show will purchase all of its energy from renewable power sources (such as wind, water and solar). As a result, this "green energy" will be brought into the Los Angeles power grid from outlying areas, thereby reducing overall emissions and pollution in greater Los Angeles.
Rewiring an entire stage to use electric, rather than diesel-generated, power;
Previously, one of the two stages housing "24"' had insufficient power capacity necessary to light the sets and run the equipment, necessitating the use of supplemental diesel-gas-fueled generators. Twentieth Century Fox Television is investing in rewiring this building, which it leases, so that no diesel generators will be needed this season.
Integrating fuel-saving and low-emission hybrid vehicles into the production fleet;
This season, the show intends to incorporate as many lower-emission vehicles as possible into departments that require considerable road trave,l such as Locations, Transportation and Production Assistance.
Creating a series of PSAs about the issue starring Kiefer Sutherland and key cast members;
Kiefer Sutherland has already shot a public service announcement describing "24"'s commitment to this issue. This season, the series intends to participate in a series of PSAs educating viewers about climate change and offering information about how they can be part of the solution.
When appropriate, incorporating the issue of global warming and the importance of carbon emission reduction into storylines;
Posting information, resources and do-it-yourself techniques for viewers to reduce their own carbon footprints on the "24" page at Fox.com;
Accruing enough carbon reduction savings through these and other innovations to render production of the entire final episode officially "carbon neutral."
Carbon neutrality refers to a product having a balance of zero between the amount of carbon absorbed and the amount of carbon released into the atmosphere during the production of the product. Carbon neutrality is achieved through energy reduction, green power use, and purchasing "offsets" which represent investment in alternative energy and carbon reduction.
Great. Now one of my favorite shows has become part of Al Gore's scam.
And I was having such a great Saturday.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.
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Imagine
July 21, 2007 - 17:40 ET by exLibImagine an actor filiming a "commercial" that said Jesus Christ's death is a crime for which we are all guilty.
I guess AGW is the left's answer to Jesus' Death on the Cross.
Gaia worship gets a pass
July 23, 2007 - 23:54 ET by Wolf PanglossTrust the Gaia evangelists to get protected status for their endangered fledgling religion.
Now I am really glad I
July 21, 2007 - 17:46 ET by bigtimerNow I am really glad I never got caught up in that series.
Thanks amber/ns for the info though...
On the other hand I wonder what Rush will say about this if anything, I know he is a big '24' fan, I also know he or his side-kick read/skims this site...may be interesting Monday.
Amber's post is
July 21, 2007 - 18:02 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsAmber's post is here.
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I don't support our liberals or their mission.
Rush is almost always right
July 21, 2007 - 18:58 ET by bulbasaurYou got it bigtimer, Rush is gotta be torn over this.
He thinks hollywood types should shut up and act, but the stars themselves think they aren't respected for their depth of thought. So they pick up brochures and whackpot magazines which give them a way to look intelligent.
You have to sympathize somewhat with them, what are they gonna do, study math?
Going gaga over global warming is a shortcut, but I don't think celebrities realize how transparently phony it is. That's why I feel sorry for them.
If you were watching an
July 22, 2007 - 13:42 ET by JDWIf you were watching an Iraq discussion on FOX and Lieberman was announced as next guest following the commercial break, why would you turn off the tv? Of course he's a dem.
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
I hate it when celebrities
July 21, 2007 - 17:53 ET by MrSnugglesI hate it when celebrities open their yaps. Do they want me to stop liking them?
So this nut didn't drop too
July 21, 2007 - 18:03 ET by RackieI see this nut didn't drop too far from the idiot tree.
Lefty Acorn
July 21, 2007 - 18:14 ET by stratmanIt is not hard to believe that Keifer is a Liberal who buys into fantastical schemes like Gorebal Warming.
His father is Donald Sutherland, a wonderful actor but a Lefty of repute in the old days.
Should we have thought Keif would turn out any other way?
Side Note: Keifer was fired as Road Manager for a band he hired to his own record label. I guess he's not as bright as his 24 personna would suggest. (http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/sutherland%20sacked%20as%20tour%20manager_21_04_2006)
Final Side Note: Anyone else need a blanket last night because it was so cold from all that Gorebal Warming?
That reminds me stratman...
July 21, 2007 - 18:42 ET by acumenAnyone else need a blanket last night because it was so cold from all that Gorebal Warming?
Glad you mentioned that Les Paul....er....Stratman. Sorry. Last night was the first time I can ever remember driving inland from the Carolina coast in mid-July and having to put the heat on in the car. Must be all the arctic glacial melt cooling our southern coastal waters. Still haven't seen any polar bears around here as yet though- but local hunters remain hopeful.
Al 'ManBearPig' Gore
July 21, 2007 - 22:16 ET by stratmanGibson, Fender - Like choosing between Strip Steak and Fillet Mignon.
It's all good.
As for the weather, the Gorebal Warming nutjobs will be back in force when it warms up to 90 next month. These past few days will be conviently forgotten or chalked as "proof" of Climate Change. These sycophants should add "When Convenient It's Called" to their cult's title.
Where are all the Hurricanes?
July 22, 2007 - 08:13 ET by Tom PaineHere we are almost 8 weeks into the season, and not a single hurricane has made landfall in the US. They had such high hopes for a big season, they were even giving names to sub tropical storms back in May to try and boost the total. Where are all the media stories saying hw wrong they were with their dire predictions. I guss that is just another Inconvenient Truth
Fickle Climate Truthers
July 22, 2007 - 10:58 ET by stratmanFunny how you don't hear a peep in the news about that!
Whatever happened to the discussion of the cyclical El Nino and La Nina systems? Wasn't this an explanation for the cyclical weather storm "extremes" instead of AGW?
Seems to me that the activists screwballs and Liberal cultists couldn't get enough mileage for their causes to be happy with fact so they created an entirely new "truth".
What worries me is that a national meeting of governor's turned their attention to AGW, agreeing that "Climate Change" is a fact and that States must engage in methods to alter the weather (That's an example of Hubris if there ever was one.). If Federal, State and Local branches of government recognize AGW/Climate Change as real and as something humans can manipulate (!!!), then it won't matter what you or I believe or say, facts be damned. It was encouraging, nontheless, that some governor's, while not dissagreeing specifically with AGW, are taking a cautious approach due to fiscal concerns for their constituents. West Virginia, for instance, isn't going to be supplanting coal for energy production anytime soon.
Perspective Noel
July 21, 2007 - 18:28 ET by acumenBut you have to appreciate the irony Noel.
So in a nutshell, several hundred individuals engaged in the monumental production of a "conservative" TV show will leave less of a daily carbon footprint than just one liberal do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do manipulator does jet-setting around to ponificate about the environment - Algore.
Delicious. :)
How long before Global
July 21, 2007 - 18:48 ET by GothampcHow long before Global Warming becomes part of the content of a tv show? I bet it will start making regular dialogue on one of the Law & Order episodes. I can just see the police asking for carbon neutral ways to fight crime.
Yep, I bet Kiefer, Algore
July 21, 2007 - 19:00 ET by bigtimerYep, I bet Kiefer, Algore and all the other nuts think we commited this crime too.
LMAO! (just had to throw it in for fun)
24
July 21, 2007 - 19:23 ET by dagdaAlthough I have not seen it, I hear that season 6 of 24 was not that good. They are going to need all the help they can get. Maybe this is a ploy to get nominations. It worked for Al Gore, why not for 24?
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
You're wrong, Keith. A
July 21, 2007 - 19:21 ET by Andrew H.You're wrong, Keith. A one degree warming over the course of one-hundred years is not your fault nor mine. And it doesn't make a bit of difference. One difference the libs want to make is to rake in more wage earner money for their programs of buying votes for power.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
Wait one cotton-pickin
July 21, 2007 - 23:06 ET by Clear thinkerWait one cotton-pickin minute here... We knew that the Earth and Mars were seeing a slight increase in their temperatures, but did you know that the same thing is happening to other planets in our solar system.
If we beleive what Mr. Sutherland is saying then we should feel guilty about ruining a whole system. I had no idea that we puny humans were that powerful.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
They are right, the show
July 21, 2007 - 20:05 ET by Conservative VoiceThey are right, the show will be carbon neutral, as fewer people will care to watch it...think of all the electrical savings! (well actually not really because we'll watch something else, but I should get the liberal gold star for my intentions right? )
Your intentions are so
July 21, 2007 - 20:08 ET by saw the lightYour intentions are so honorable, you are eligible for a one year free membership to the Algore Fan Club.
One of the perks is that you can pump as much carbon into the atmosphere as you want for that year, as long as you preach to your friends and neighbors that they are killing the planet.
"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out." - Prime Minister
After the stellar season 6
July 21, 2007 - 20:14 ET by 10ksnookerLooks like I am just going to pass on the rest. Season 6 was a total mess, shows what PC can do for you.
Goodbye Jack
True Dedication?
July 21, 2007 - 20:42 ET by rob6677"While out for a swim in the sea of hipocracy, Sutherland failed to notice the millions of televisions (conventionally powered) floating around him that have made it possible for him to spew nonsense. Upon realizing his error his next "warming" gesture will be to quit showbiz, build a small cabin in the woods, use only sticks to hunt for food (guns and knives contain carbon), and never be seen or heard from again as to not cause people to use electricity that isn't "friendly".
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"Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana!" Groucho
"24" Playing Texas Hold'em - Plays "All In"
July 21, 2007 - 21:11 ET by Intellectual HonestySo Sutherland and the "24" team have agreed to curtail their energy use by 1/24th. Better than some shows but committing themselves to a position that stinks of political posturing.
The fact is "24" didn't need to be go all the way and yet they decided to go the suicidal route of not only saying they will walk the walk but that they will propogandize the talk of Global Warming Alarmism Advocacy. Conservative fans will revolt.
To actually admit that they will not only make physical changes to limit their energy use (fine - go ahead) but that they will politicize that position in story lines is almost beyond the realm of entertainment and instantly reduces their credibility in regards to their image of showing the blunt truth about the war on terror.
Another reason to turn it
July 22, 2007 - 08:49 ET by Lancasters Saved UsAnother reason to turn it off and read about the Loons here. As someone who worked in this biz for twenty years, I can attest that no industry is more full of wasteful poseurs than the Film and TV industry. . The whole Biz is full of idling cars with either their heater or AC systems on full with the windows down, while they fill trash bag after trash bag with coffee cups, burnt out AA batteries, half used up paint cans, etc. They all must constantly be eating foods trucked in from all corners of the earth. One must show up to work in a vehicle that shows ones individuality. Either an old Studebaker with Zero emission controls that runs like crap or whatever German product costs the most for those signing the cheques.
Keifer comes from an interesting strain of famous leftists Canadians. His Grand Father was Tommy Douglas, who was the premiere of Saskatchewan and the father of socialised medicine in Canada. He was voted the "Greatest Canadian" on a CBC (BBC lite) TV show a few years ago. CBC viewers fortunately are not main stream Canadians. Their numbers are dwindling, Even then it was neck and neck between Kiefer's Grand Dad and Don Cherry the Hockey commentator. What few people know is that Kiefer's Grand Dad was a proponent of sterilizing the underclass. Prostitutes, alchoholics, the Feeble Minded as a way to get society running correctly. I believe the great Magazine "Western Standard" has a copy of his thesis on file for anyone who cares to research Kiefer's lineage.
For the record, Mr.
July 22, 2007 - 10:03 ET by dahliatraversFor the record, Mr. Douglas' Master's degree thesis was
entitled The Problems of the Subnormal Family was on eugenics, a way to "solve the problems of the Subnormal Family" by sterilizing mentally and physically disabled Canadians, and sending them to camps.[2] He later rejected this theory after a trip to Nazi Germany in 1938. ...
... and never referred to it again. I agree that this is an extremely disturbing concept and am relieved to learn that Mr. Douglas changed his mind about it.
This does not change the fact that his grandson is a brainless, uninformed band-wagon-jumper in the matter of global warming.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas
Sutherland a chip off the old Sutherland
July 21, 2007 - 21:15 ET by Lame CherryFor the longest time Keifer Sutherland actually kept his mouth shut not wanting to blow a great acting deal, but apparently with a movie coming and only 2 years on this contract it was time to offend his audience and destroy 24 so he could be daddy's little boy....the same crazy Donald Sutherland who didn't play Oddball in Kelley's Heroes, but is an oddball in real life.
Why doesn't Keifer just lock himself in prison as he is guilty of raping the planet and murdering the planet. He is a serial planet killer.
This will now be one movie I will not spend money on and right now it is up in the wind whether I will bother with 24 this season.
Note to Rupert Murdoch at FOX. NEXT TIME hire Tom Selleck or some other normal person who happens to act as every time you hire liberals on a show you get some dickweed like Brad Garret last year going on Jimmy Kimmel bashing Ted Nugent or Junior Sutherland now biting the hands which fed him.
Hey Keifer, you are guilty and I fine you a million dollars, so make the check out to ME.
*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS
Kiefer: Sapere Aude!
July 21, 2007 - 21:36 ET by krismcsherryYup, Kief joins Orlando Bloom and Leonardo DiWhatsHisName on the list of actors I used to watch for in movies and paid money to see. I think Rush might not mind much that Sutherland is coming out as an AGW policeman but we'll see. I don't think he'll be surprised; it is Hollywood after all.
I take it to heart as a disappointment (can they be THAT stupid those actors?) because it's not just the buying into AGW, it's the mentality behind it, the suppression of opinion, the death threats and name calling and shaming and social bullying that goes along with the dogma of manmade carbon as culprit.
I've been a fan of Kiefer's but not 24 so I guess it doesn't really matter to my TV watching pleasure. And who knows, maybe the whole production will save on costs? Perhaps they are struggling to not be cancelled after this many years.
I can tell you one thing: Here in California the AGW crowd is going strong but we commoners laugh in our houses as the valley experiences normal temperatures and bigger problems loom before us that make climate change look like the latest new clothes on the Emperor.
Kiefer baby! Jeez if he could read this. Wise up and get soundly EDUCATED on climate change science, the confusing, hard stuff, not the sound bites, don't be a doofus. You're cute but so wrong on this.
And btw, GW is neither a crime nor a consensus-topic and I don't feel one whit guilty. What a bunch of lazy thinkers those celebs are.
The truth comes in little pieces.
I feel your pain
July 21, 2007 - 21:47 ET by krismcsherryNoel S: "Great. Now one of my favorite shows has become part of Al Gore's scam. And I was having such a great Saturday. "
My condolences. Nobody's perfect, not even Kiefer. I think I had imagined him less susceptible to brainwashing.
I really enjoyed "24" and
July 21, 2007 - 21:48 ET by Sonny LykosI really enjoyed "24" and don't care if their actors, production crew or anyone else associated with it are far left or far right.
But when they start this crap, which is their right, I will exercise my right. I will not watch it. I'm far behind in my reading anyway.
I will however, find out who their advertisers will be and notify them all of why I will not watch it.
I do not take it lightly being accused of being a "global criminal."
What happened to "innocent
July 21, 2007 - 22:29 ET by dahliatraversWhat happened to "innocent until proven guilty", Kiefer?
Keep up, pal. The case against man took a dramatic turn for the worse about six months ago when a raft of evidence and scientists began making a monkey out of the prosecutors (Al Gore and James Hansen).
turnabout is fair play
July 21, 2007 - 22:42 ET by JohnM<shaking head in disbelief> Stupid stupid stupid
OK, in order to help Kiefer and the 24 producers achieve their goal, I suggest we unplug our TVs in order to save all the electricity we would have used in order to watch the show. That ought to help them, eh?
Hey, they could do even more if they didn't bother to film it at all! And then they could REALLY do the planet a favor and save the carbon that would be used to broadcast it!
I would love to see the libs take the GW/carbon nonsense to its ultimate: "Save carbon by turning off your TV, and not buying big fat newspapers (like the NYT and LAT)."
Where do they think their jobs would be if they actually accomplished what they profess? They'd all be out of work! Hey! So maybe there IS a silver lining in this stupid GW cloud..
If you want to stir up a
July 21, 2007 - 23:29 ET by Clear thinkerIf you want to stir up a storm, just get people to turn off their TV's whenever a commercial comes on during one of these shows.
I'm guessing advertisers would freak.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
over reaction
July 21, 2007 - 23:18 ET by shawn228My goodness this is kind of overkill isn't it. I realize season 6 sucked but wanting to boycott a great show like 24 just because its star believes in global warming?. You would think that he broke into a lab and freed all the test animals or something.
Is this enough for Jack Bauer of Newsbusters to change his handle in protest?.:)
....tsk tsk shawn... Of
July 21, 2007 - 23:21 ET by bigtimer....tsk tsk shawn...
Of cousre it will be up to Jack but I do not think so...we love Jack here for numerous reasonous, he is a hero of mine on NB always will be...besides that, he is danged funny..and can take care of anyone in a second flat if need be!
bigtimer
July 21, 2007 - 23:24 ET by shawn228I never said anything bad about Jack, I think he is funny and intelligent as well. Why the tsk tsk?
Oh sorry
July 21, 2007 - 23:26 ET by bigtimerOh sorry shawn....
...snicker snicker....
That suit your fancy?
LOL
???????????. I guess your
July 21, 2007 - 23:33 ET by shawn228???????????. I guess your intelligent humor is above my head bt. I must say that you are one of the more interesting members of this site.
bt... Not to worry, I
July 21, 2007 - 23:37 ET by Clear thinkerbt...
Not to worry, I liked 'tsk, tsk' just fine.
And Shawn is right, you are one of the more interesting members here.
You go girl!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Yugo girl?
July 21, 2007 - 23:49 ET by botgis that like Obama girl?
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
botg... Let's keep it
July 21, 2007 - 23:52 ET by Clear thinkerbotg...
Let's keep it clean ;-)
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
botg
July 21, 2007 - 23:57 ET by shawn228Homer Simpsons voice.. mmmmmmmmmm Obama girl.
Ct... Why thank you kind
July 21, 2007 - 23:56 ET by bigtimerCt...
Why thank you kind sir, much appreciated.
Not to worry about shawn and me though, he knows what he is doing with me, we have been back and forth from day one.
Thinks he is sly by half.
Not.
Not with me anyway...and I leave it at that.
;-)
July 22, 2007 - 00:00 ET by Clear thinker;-)
bigtimer
July 22, 2007 - 00:48 ET by shawn228Just to let you know bigtimer, there is not a vast shawn228 conspiricy going on here. Sure i'm sarcastic sometimes, but isn't 90 percent of the members? Well at least you have not called me mean names for a while.:)
Oh please shawn save it
July 22, 2007 - 00:52 ET by bigtimerOh please shawn save it okay.
Mean names...pot calling kettle.
Move on to someone else okay.
I don't have time for a pity party for you.
Not asking for your
July 22, 2007 - 01:03 ET by shawn228Not asking for your pity BT, just calling it like it is. If you did not respond to any of my post that would be a different story. IE the other day, I told Amber I was on vacation and did not have time to respond in a timely manner. You and another poster tried to imply I was lying about that.
Mean names...pot calling kettle.
How long has it been since I have said one mean thing to you? My goodness you have got to be one of the most vindictive people on this planet. I mean why would I ever say anything mean to you, I am just a dumb liberal with talking points right? You always answer a question directly and never change the subject or resort to personal attacks right? No...not you. Lol.
Look I don't want you as an enemy, If you want to bury the hatchet I am cool with that, but If you dislike me so much don't respond to my post. Easy as that.
Shawn
July 22, 2007 - 01:07 ET by amberSeriously, what did I miss. I did not even check any past posts. My husband is comming home this week so I have been mowing the lawn, cleaning the house, putting the tools back in the tool box.....after two years of him being gone I have a lot of cleaning up and putting back to gether to do. Sorry I did not know you even responded to something.
amber...Don't worry
July 22, 2007 - 01:11 ET by bigtimeramber...
Don't worry about it...neither do I!
You just have a great time with your man, I am so happy for your reunion.
Have a good one gal...
BT
July 22, 2007 - 01:17 ET by amberME TOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am just giddy with excitment!
I was thinking he might like to play a little LaCrosse.
amber
July 22, 2007 - 01:55 ET by shawn228No big deal, I'm not going to find that link. It was when I said the rape of the girl happenned in Haditha and I found out that it happenned in another place in Iraq. I apologized about getting the place wrong and not responding in a timely manner. Then... someone accused me of .....You know what? lets just leave it at that, it is water under the bridge, I don't have time to hold grudges, must be exhausting:)
I hope you and you husband have a great time. Good night.
Pardon me shawn I haven't
July 22, 2007 - 01:09 ET by bigtimerPardon me shawn I haven't the foggiest what you are talking about regarding amber, nor do I care, the spewing you did here the first time you were here was deleted shawn or I would bring it out.
Like I said, move on.
Some things just aren't forgotten...
You can fool some of the people some ot the time....
'nuff said.
Shawn
July 21, 2007 - 23:57 ET by Noel SheppardShawn,
Who said anything about boycotting this show? I'm not suggesting that at all. I love this program, and have since the first season. I'm just disappointed it's taking on such a position of advocacy for this issue.
With all the issues facing our nation, this is what Kiefer and the gang, with all their clout and ratings, want to put front and center?
What a waste. ns
Taking time to be green
July 22, 2007 - 00:05 ET by dagdaSo, Jack Bauer is going to switch to a Prius. The entire CTU will be run with snail mail instead of computers, in an effort to save electricity. Bullets will be recycled or boxing gloves will replace all weapons to cut down on use of precious resources. All cell phones will be abandon (sold to drug dealer to make some extra money and recycle the products). No helicopters will be used or US Armed Forces during the season. Everything will be done in natural lighting and first take only (no retakes). All action will take place within a four block area which will allow CTU and the terrorists to maintain a small carbon footprint. Walking or bike will be the transportation of choice.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
Noel, You never
July 22, 2007 - 00:50 ET by shawn228Noel,
You never said anything about boycotting the show, but at least two posters were at the very least hinting about boycotting the show. Its just that there are so many call for boycotts on this site. ie HBO, Google, Time magazine etc. I mean it just that for example if you love Barbara Streisands music, you don't have to agree with her politics.
I thought seasons 4 and 5 of 24 were the best. I did not get into 24 until 2 years ago, so I had the luxury of catching up with the DVD's minus the commercials
Shawn
July 22, 2007 - 01:19 ET by Noel SheppardShawn,
There's too much here to respond to on a Saturday evening, especially after watching part of Bill Maher's special which, in the end, was just an hour of Bush-bashing. What a disgrace.
Anyway, you need to watch Day One, for that's by far the best season. They all pale by comparison.
As for boycotting a star because of his or her political positions, I don't agree with you at all. If these folks were just voicing opinions without advocacy, that would be one thing. But, when stars are out campaigning for candidates and causes that threaten what I hold dear, it becomes personal.
You bring up Barbra Streisand. I used to be a fan. "Funny Girl" is actually a marvelous film. She's an extremely talented vocalist, and quite funny. However, she's a hypocritical socialist advocating the middle class to pay more in taxes while she lives a life that 99.99 percent of Americans can't imagine in their wildest dreams. If she was so concerned about the poor and the poverty-ridden, she would give away virtually all of her millions. But she doesn't. Instead, she advocates higher taxes, and more government spending.
Why not spend her own money if she feels so strongly about helping others? By this, I don't mean just giving to charity. This is a multi-millionaire with many properties. If she really felt so strongly about those that don't have, she would give much more, and have much less. Much less. Why liberals don't understand the hypocrisy is beyond me.
All these Hollywood liberals who live in the finest mansions in Beverly Hills, with properties all over the world, and private jets, who advocate higher taxes to solve problems are the biggest hypocrites imaginable. If Streisand and Robbins and Penn and Crow and Sarandon and all the others would just raise a few billion dollars between them, they could solve a lot more problems than they have with all their speeches and rallies. These are some of the wealthiest people in the country pointing fingers at you and me to give more while they live a life that we can't imagine.
As such, when these folks take positions that threaten our economy, or our ability to provide for our families, or, dare I say, chastize us for trying to live the kind of life they do, it's only reasonable that folks feel contempt, and not want to pay to see their movies, buy their CDs, or watch their television programs.
With that in mind, there are many actors whose films I'll never watch, many musicians whose music I'll never listen to, and many writers whose books I'll never read. Why? Because they advocate taking from me to solve problems that they're not willing to solve themselves beyond offering meaningless rhetoric and attending meaningless rallies.
Think about that before you challenge people here that are outraged when rich Hollywoodans take a political position that threatens our economic system as they fly around in private jets eating the finest food and staying at hotels that most of us couldn't afford with a year's wages. ns
Have to disagree Noel
July 22, 2007 - 01:24 ET by dagdaDay Five or Season 5 was the best of 24. 5 then 1. Watching them on dvd, so I have not seen 6 yet.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
Dag
July 22, 2007 - 01:34 ET by Noel SheppardDag,
Really? You liked Day Five better than Day One? Hmmm. Man, I've watched One on DVD probably about five times. I've never watched Five again. I thought Six was better than Five. Tell me what I'm missing. ns
Kim is the problem
July 22, 2007 - 01:41 ET by dagdaKim always being in trouble was the problem for me. I did watch them one season after the other. So I was seriously depressed for several weeks. That is a depressing show. As I said, I have not watched 6. Taste is personal. I thought 5 had the best overall theme and best acting from the ensemble.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
Mr. Sheppard
July 22, 2007 - 01:25 ET by amberYou said that so much better than I could.
I thought day one was
July 22, 2007 - 01:45 ET by shawn228I thought day one was very good. Day 2 was equally as good. Season 3 was far fetched at best but kept my interest. Day 4 was awesome, Day 5 was equally as good. Day 6 put me to sleep.
Im sure alot of conservatives give great charity for noble causes as well like cancer research, MS etc. No one expects them to give half their fortune they worked very hard to get, to the charity they believe in.
I concede Barbara Streisand might have been too strong of an example, she is like the mecca of Socialist, but making a commercial about global warming is no big deal.
I'm not just irritated by
July 22, 2007 - 11:18 ET by JohnMI'm not just irritated by their empty thinking, annoying platitudes, and hypocritical actions, I'm pi**ed that in one simple sentence, I've been accused, judged, and found guilty of a crime that I first off don't believe is true, and second if it were I don't believe is a crime, and third I don't believe that humans can be faulted for. And not just me, but he's done this to all of us. In one sentence.
So I feel I have every right to not support the images of "24" by turning off my TV because of my negative reaction to a statement that lumps all of us together in such a twisted and negative image in its own right.
Like the marketing of any product or idea, this is a battle for control of perceptions. KS and the 24 production team are stupid if think they can take a shot at all of us and not get shots back. They should think before coming out with such a blanket accusation, and be absolutely sure its true before coming out firing.
Otherwise it's a risk they take, and they have to bear the consequences. Like me and you getting ticked.
So, for me it's not so much the lifestyle and money, it's more the thinking and attitudes, the clear lack of respect for people and the quest for Truth.
Great comment in its entirety.
July 22, 2007 - 18:01 ET by dahliatraverswhen these folks take positions that threaten our economy, or our ability to provide for our families
In addition to the irritating divergence of their words and actions which you correctly refer to, Noel, they advocate this course of action without a purpose! AGW has been shot full of holes, which they could quickly determine with a few minutes of research or by speaking to an honest climatologist.
Let us be clear. If we could, without a lot of pain, switch over to a non-polluting, non-fossil fuel energy, I'd be completely in favor of it. (Uh oh, there goes this week's check from the eeeeevil oil companies...) It is wonderful that Kiefer and "24" have chosen to shoot the show "carbon neutral". Air pollution is a bad thing and if they are lessening their contribution, they are to be applauded.
The problem is, it doesn't stop there. Kiefer, Barbra, Al Gore, et al are using their fame and their amplified voices to persuade our gov't to introduce involuntary, draconian measures to solve a basically non-existent problem, measures that will result in exactly what Noel outlines above.
And finally, as someone insightfully pointed out on another thread, if, heaven forbid, these laws are passed, none of these people will feel the effects. So they are using their power to pointlessly inflict something bad on everybody else including, to steal one of their phrases, the most vulnerable among us. But not on themselves.
Story line to incorporate AGW hysteria
July 21, 2007 - 23:38 ET by metroxIt's not just the production company trying to 'live' a low carbon life. They also say:
When appropriate, incorporating the issue of global warming and the importance of carbon emission reduction into storylines;
Like father, like son.
July 22, 2007 - 00:13 ET by kgLike father, like son.
Shawn
July 22, 2007 - 00:29 ET by amberFor me a boycott is not about shutting down the show or network, it is about money. Do I want to keep filling their pocketbooks? Do I want to be the one allowing them to continue to spew whatever junk they want? No, I don't. I may watch online, but I will not pay for a dvd of the season. It is the same when it comes to food. I like King salmon and no other salmon, King salmon tastes exceptionally good to me and the others leave something to be desired. 24 has left a bad taste in my mouth and I do not know if I can stomach it.
Amber
July 22, 2007 - 00:39 ET by shawn228I see your point of view Amber, but I mean, if you want to boycott the company that wanted to print O.J's book, I can understand that. Keifer agrees with man made global warming and many on this site don't. You have a right to do whatever you want, I just do not find that is reason enough to not pay for season 6 dvd when it comes out. Dont buy it because the season was really bad.
There were many calls for boycotts of HBO from Bill Maher on this site as well, but I suspect that was "lip service" because there was a huge thread about the Soprano's series finale.
Boycotting celebridiots
July 22, 2007 - 00:50 ET by dagdaJane Fonda was the first celebridiot that I boycotted. I have not paid for a ticket to a movie she has been in or bought a dvd of a movie that she was in. I do watch her movies on occasion but usually for the other actors that are in them. In those cases, I pay a flat monthly fee to Netflix and I get the film from there. None of my money is going directly to her, which is the important thing. I have done the same thing with other celebridiots who thought that being a celebridiot gave them special insight into the universe and they were directed by God to tell me about it.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
dagda
July 22, 2007 - 00:54 ET by shawn228I personally don't have a problem with Jane Fonda because that was so many years ago, but i do agree with you if want to boycott her and not contribute any money towards her. What she did is worthy of the scorn of much of this nation. Expressing your opinion in a commercial about global warming is a little bit different.
No difference
July 22, 2007 - 00:57 ET by dagdaNot when Kiefer Sutherland calls me a criminal. There is no difference.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
dagda
July 22, 2007 - 18:15 ET by shawn228Dagda
He said something like we are all guilty of contributing to global warming. He did not say you were a criminal. Jane Fonda's picture was taken with the Vietkong, sitting on top of one of their tanks. Little bit different.
shawn228 beg to differ
July 22, 2007 - 18:19 ET by dagda"Global warming is a crime for which we are all guilty! this is the opening of Kiefer's PSA. That is calling me a criminal. A criminal is someone who commits a crime. Enough said.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
dagda
July 22, 2007 - 18:36 ET by shawn228So if someone says we are all guilty of taking our spouses/children/parents for granted, you would still interpret that as someone calling you a criminal?
Shawn
July 22, 2007 - 01:01 ET by amberTo boycott an entire network I would need more than just one show involved in GW propoganda. HBO, for example can be boycotted for this http://sweetness-light.com/archive/letting-terrorists-go-and-forgetting-their-victims
at least as far as I am concerned
Boycotting HBO
July 22, 2007 - 01:02 ET by dagdaHBO needs to be boycotted because they cancelled Deadwood and Rome. I no longer watch HBO.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower