While media outlets carped and whined about a perceived conservative slant to the hit television series “24” as reported by NewsBusters here, here, here, here, here, and here, none seemed interested in asking the opinion of the star of the show who also happens to be the executive producer.
In fact, all of the hyperventilating left could have just watched the Charlie Rose Show on PBS on January 12 to find out the truth, assuming of course that this is important. If they had, they would know that Kiefer Sutherland believes he "[leans] towards socialist politics."
How's that for a kick in the head? Confused? Well, you won't be when you read Sutherland's response to Rose's question, “What are your politics?” (this is where all of the "neo-con" conspiracy theorists must pay particular attention if they dare):
To a large degree they`re private, but I believe - I believe inherently that - that we have a responsibility to take care of each other, so when you can talk about socialized healthcare, absolutely, that`s a no-brainer. Free universities, absolutely, that`s a no-brainer for me. So in the definition, I guess those are leaning towards socialist politics. To me it`s common sense. And I do believe the wealthy have a responsibility to the less fortunate. Some people call that communism. I disagree. Again, it`s common sense. But I would have to say that my politics would be leaning towards the left.
Leaning to the left? I’d say if you advocate socialized health care and free universities. This set up an interesting exchange between the two concerning the use of torture:
CHARLIE ROSE: And do you get a lot of grief from your friends because we`ve had lots of discussions about torture in the last -- since we have been in Iraq ...
KIEFER SUTHERLAND: Yeah.
CHARLIE ROSE: ... whether it`s Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib or -- or other places where it is the Patriot Act ...
KIEFER SUTHERLAND: No, what happened in Abu Ghraib was just absolutely criminal. And not only was it criminal but it was as a nation it`s going to go in and trying to tell people how to live, which is exactly what we`re doing, and we`re going to tell you that democracy and freedom and this is the way to go, and then go and behave like that. Inexcusable.
CHARLIE ROSE: But you get some grief for what the show does?
KIEFER SUTHERLAND: Absolutely. And it is widely known that torture - - you can torture someone and they`ll basically tell you exactly what you want to hear, whether it`s true or not, if you put someone in enough pain. Torture is not a way of procuring information. The way of procuring information is actually -- is in fact quite the opposite, and, unfortunately, that takes a lot of time. Within the context of our show, which is a fantastical show to begin with, the torture is a dramatic device to show you how desperate a situation is.
CHARLIE ROSE: Right, right.
KIEFER SUTHERLAND: And how urgent and - and desperate these characters are to solve this one specific thing, and time is running out. And so it is a dramatic device. It is not to be confused with what we think is right or wrong. And it`s a television show.
Some conservative, huh? Later in the interview came another fascinating sequence that those foaming about this program being a tool to promote Bush administration views should find most enlightening:
CHARLIE ROSE: I think I read somewhere that Cheney was a fan.
KIEFER SUTHERLAND: I`ve heard that as well. I`ve heard that as well.
CHARLIE ROSE: And other fans within the national security apparatus ...
KIEFER SUTHERLAND: Yeah.
CHARLIE ROSE: ... of the Bush administration.
KIEFER SUTHERLAND: I think what`s - what`s funny is that, you know, you`ve got John McCain ...
CHARLIE ROSE: But John McCain was on the show last year.
KIEFER SUTHERLAND: Yes, and Dick Cheney and various people that are huge fans of the show. And then you`ve got the Clintons and you`ve got Barbra Streisand, and I think one of the great testaments of the show is that the show is incredibly balanced as well. I don`t think you could have it embraced by members of the right and members of the left at the same time. And if you ever took a look at our writing staff and their politics ...
CHARLIE ROSE: It`s all over the place?
KIEFER SUTHERLAND: It`s all over the place, yeah, absolutely. There is a representative from the right, and there is a representative from the left.
CHARLIE ROSE: It`s used by people from Barbra Streisand to Rush Limbaugh to make a point, "24" to make a point.
KIEFER SUTHERLAND: Yeah, yeah. Who am I to tell anybody how to interpret what we`re doing? We make it and we put it out there for you. Again, the thing that I can look back to with pride is that it`s that balanced, that the polarity of the audience is that diverse. Me, I kind of see things from a left perspective, so I`m always amazed when I see it galvanized by someone on the right.
Now, to put this even further in perspective, this interview was aired on January 12. The premier of the first season was January 14. Time magazine’s review wherein the writer asked “[I]s “24” a conservative show” was published January 14. Keith Olbermann whined about this program on January 16. And, though Newsweek’s article that suggested “24” was a “neocon sex fantasy” was published on January 12, maybe the author could have spoken to the admittedly socialist star/executive producer to get his take.
Alas, that would be too much like the lost art of investigative reporting, wouldn’t it?
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.
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Since his leanings are so s
Fri, 01/26/2007 - 23:10 ET by HyunchbackSince his leanings are so socialist what does he pay in taxes? Does he, like most, use every trick in the book to hide his money from the IRS or does he write that huge check on April 15th and smile when he drops it in the mailbox?
It's wonderful to want to have expensive things paid for. It's not so wonderful to be the one paying for it.
How much, then, does Sutherland pay? Does he give to charity then throw away the reciept so he can pay for all that free healthcare and education?
To me this is just like the F
Sun, 01/28/2007 - 00:44 ET by DontTreadOnMeTo me this is just like the Fox News syndrome. Just because a Show or News Channel actually illustrates a conservative point of view then it is automatically called right wing pornography.
It doesnt matter that they give the same amount of time to the liberal POV,,, to them it should be about 99% liberal and 1% conservative, just like how they think the country should be. And exactly how people in their own BUBBLE are.
Its pathetic really but a very effective tool to shout down any contrary opinion to their own. ABC, NBC, CNN, and CBS should get the same ridicule Fox News gets for being slanted, yet the majority of Americans dont see it that way.
Hey Don'tTread
Sun, 01/28/2007 - 01:07 ET by SportPoliticsJust think how fearful and befuddled those elite libs are. 24 is very popular, and for the life of them they can't imagine why. They're scared out of their wits over it, and no doubt tell themselves the backwoods straw chewin morons watching it are becoming too large in number. It probably makes them want to demand more free college and government funded special lib programs. I'm sure some left wing weirdo professor will do a book on "24"'s deceptions and how dangerous it is for the public to see it, and the terrible influence it is having, that all the libs will implore is an empirical study.
The next moment Redford will show up and announce child incest rape as the new open minded artistic expression at Cannes film festival, and demand Hollywood mainstream it, claiming it could not possibly affect the public in a negative fashion.
The libs of course, will get away with it.
C'mon people, did you think t
Fri, 01/26/2007 - 23:15 ET by The FugitiveC'mon people, did you think that this guy would be a conservative? PUHLEEZ!!!!! His old man is a flaming lib nut job, and you thought the apple would fall to the RIGHT?
Why is it that EVERYTIME a liberal opens their mouth, I feel a sudden urge to hand them a roll of toilet paper?
The fruit has not fallen far
Fri, 01/26/2007 - 23:17 ET by GalvanicFugitive is right; the fruit has not fallen far from the tree. And why would anyone be surprised?
Kiefer gives a great performa
Fri, 01/26/2007 - 23:19 ET by NeoConfirmedKiefer gives a great performance, inside and out.
Well that settles it...I am n
Fri, 01/26/2007 - 23:29 ET by bigtimerWell that settles it...
I am not going to buy the box set of all the shows.
I have never seen one, now I will not for sure!
(just kiddin') Maybe.
Yeah, that's often the side
Fri, 01/26/2007 - 23:33 ET by AJYeah, that's often the side effect of Hollywood. You see these great performances on TV or in movies by these big name actors only to find out that they are these softy, soupy liberals in real life. They're always preaching about AIDS in Africa or the poor people in Haiti.
I'm not totally sure what I mean by "soupy". hehehe!
some times, my ear plugs aren't enough to block out liberal manure.
Kiefer is actually the gran
Fri, 01/26/2007 - 23:59 ET by Tom1969caKiefer is actually the grandson of The Honourable Thomas C. (Tommy) Douglas, who is widely regarded as "The Father of Medicare", Canada's universal healthcare system.
The nut doesn't fall very far from the tree...
~~~
VOTE DEMOCRAT!
(It's easier than thinking)
Tom,Hey... thanks for that li
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 00:09 ET by bigtimerTom,
Hey... thanks for that little nugget of knowledge to keep tucked away!
Who knew?
It makes perfect sense for his upbringing eh?
I thought Keifer looked a lit
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 08:50 ET by Roger the ShrubberI thought Keifer looked a little Canadian.
I've never seen "24"
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 02:02 ET by Carl KolchakI have to admit I've never seen "24", but as far as shows with undercover government agents, I have to go with Vince Terranova as the coolest. "Wiseguy" in my opinion has to be one of the best shows of all time. Spacek as Mel Profiit, or Ray Sharkey as Sonny Steelgrave would probably beat any of the bad dudes on "24" hands down. No offense to all the "24" fans, as I have never seen the show, but for those who have seen "Wiseguy", you know what I'm talking about.
"AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!.....2 minute warning" Frank McPike"
And it is widely known th
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 05:31 ET by Jack BauerAnd it is widely known that torture - - you can torture someone and they`ll basically tell you exactly what you want to hear, whether it`s true or not, if you put someone in enough pain. Torture is not a way of procuring information.
That's way, way too simplistic. And rather a rather black and white way of looking at things.
Clearly there are certain individuals who have a greater capacity to withstand pain. Special Forces are trained to hold out. But virtually everyone does actually have a breaking point. That is an undeniable, absolute fact.
If the aim of the torture is to elicit a specific fact -- like the location and names of his fellow terrorists, or a bomb, they will give it up, given the time and effort used to get the info. As it can be quickly verified, where's the upside to the person being tortured? It simply continues if he lied.
A famous case would be Guy Fawkes, the guy who tried to blow up the English parliament. He was hideously tortured and gave up all his fellow plotters within a day. And this guy was really motivated, dedicated by what he did, which he saw as being sanctioned by God.
And you can't really believe in Stockholm Syndrome, where normal human beings, apparently, fairly quickly bond with their captors, and compliantly hand over info.
Yet for some odd reason, if you tortured these very same people, it would have the opposite effect and they wouldn't hand over the same info. Come on!
And you know what, I don't think Keifer actually believes that himself, he's just mouthing it. He's an executive producer on 24. He has a lot of clout on the plot. Time after time, either he or others are shown torturing people who give it up.
You think if Keifer really believed what he said, that would appear in the show? I think not.
In fact, the most unbelievable thing I've ever seen on the show occurred in the first five minutes in Day Six.
Keifer is supposed to have been in a Chinese prison for 18 months, tortured everyday, and it's claimed he has not spoken one word in all that time.
Excuse me? The Chinese INVENTED the most diabolic torture techniques a couple of millenniums ago. Chinese Water Torture, to name but one. They are masters of torture. And they know it works.
In college the scouts talke
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 11:02 ET by JDWIn college the scouts talked to our trainers first, they wanted to know how well the players they were interested in could handle pain.
The idea of walking away from China as he did is complacent with the fictional story which the dems refuse to accept as anything other than a pro-Iraq target against them.
If Sutherland values his opportunity to send people to college and fund health care, he should avoid the morning shows... I enjoy the show.
JDW
Kerry: "You know, education, if you make the most of it ... you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
the belief that with tortur
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 15:06 ET by Conservative Voicethe belief that with torture you will get what ever info you want to hear comes from the witch trials. But that is different because in that case the people on the witch trial were put to death if they claimed to be a witch, and tortured until they claimed to be a witch. Hence the people on the trial are like I can die slowly but still maintain my honor or just die...not much of a choice.
The reason why torture works is because it puts the mind under so much stress it is near impossible to lie. To lie requires energy. When under torture the body is using all of its energy to survive, so the ability to lie drops dramatically. The same technique can be done by getting someone mad...when they are mad they can't think...their emotion is too high. This is why Abu Grab torture is also effective. Personally I don't have a problem with Abu Grab and don't see what they did as torture.
CV -- Liberals are moral
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 15:22 ET by Jack BauerCV -- Liberals are moral cowards.
The reason they pretend torture doesn't work is cover for that moral cowardice.
They want to remove themselves from the moral dilemma of having to choose, for example, whether it is justifiable to torture a single individual to elicit information that could save the lives of hundreds of thousands.
Now this is no theoretical whatif scenario. It is more than conceivable that terrorists are planning to detonate a small nuclear device in a US city.
Clearly the US could capture a person who knew who these people are, and what they are planning, and they would be justified in using any means to find out.
But rather than face that fact, liberals try to convince themselves that torturing a suspect wouldn't work anyway.
So to salve their own conscience, they would rather se thousands die. It's that simple.
Of course, they would also be the first to blame everyone else for NOT STOPPING the attack.
Isn't it nice to be a liberal. They're always the smartest people in two foot square closet.
I don't think they are moral
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 15:31 ET by Conservative VoiceI don't think they are moral cowards, as that would require them to have morals. Their golden rule is simple, steal from the rich to gain power with the poor, give to the poor just enough to keep them happy and keep the rest. The UN is the chapel of liberals and the fetus is the sacrament.
I don't agree with his commen
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 06:50 ET by seabreezeI don't agree with his comments/positions but I do give him credit for not being a typical loud mouth, sermonizing hollywood lib. The show has been on for about 5 years and this is the first time he has spoken publically about his politics.
I think he prefers to keep them in private. Which is what all hollywood libs should do!
grapefruit juice
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 07:19 ET by CatherwoodJust how do you make your seabreezes, Seabreeze? My favorite is the East Coast seabreeze----Skyy, cranberry, white grapefruit.
Cwood
Three bottles of Thunderbird:
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 08:49 ET by Roger the ShrubberThree bottles of Thunderbird: two bottles warm, one bottle cold!
I watched that interview, (an
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 08:14 ET by msh1973I watched that interview, (and wrote about it here) no one even commented on it. We would like to think that Jack Bauer exists down deep in Keifer, but that just isn't true. In Keifer's soul is a heart of a socialist. Oh well.
Kiefer is ok. He hasn't bas
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 08:58 ET by JerryKiefer is ok. He hasn't bashed conservatives or the president as far as I am aware. He was responding to a direct question about his political leanings.
He can be a socialist if he wants to. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. The main problem I have with hollywood stars is when they use their fame as a platform from which to spew venom upon those who don't believe as they do. Kiefer hasn't done that to my knowledge.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
That's pretty much my feeling
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 10:08 ET by Indiana JoeThat's pretty much my feelings, Jerry. I have never watched "24," no particular reason, just never caught it. But as long as celebrities just do their job without injecting their beliefs into it, I have no problem with that.
Trying to silence dissent is a political tactic in this country, but not a tactic I associate or agree with. That's for the "other" guys. Of course, people are free to decide not to watch, if that's their cup of tea.
IJ
I'm with you, Jerry. While
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 10:31 ET by mytwocentsI'm with you, Jerry. While I might wish that Kiefer had conservative political leanings, I can accept that he doesn't. I enjoy his acting, especially in the '24' series. When he gets up on a soapbox and starts pushing a politcal agenda, I will stop watching him.
Gravitas
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 10:06 ET by sarcasmoGravitas. (Stern fans will understand, but for the rest, Howard spent MONTHS making fun of this socialist for his favorite word as revealed on some pompous TV show, and Kiefer SO-wanted to be "cool.") I'll admit he's a good actor, probably because he's focused on acting to the exclusion of even elementary economics, but if he believes in free healthcare are doctors allowed to believe in free movie-acting?
JMR
Sutherland
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 10:17 ET by iveseenitallSutherland's father is a raving looney leftist, so his views are to be expected.
NEVER, NEVER trust a liberal
Keifer
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 11:03 ET by missvotingforreaganI probably agree with Keifer on this one thing, "it's a television show".
it is time that conservatives
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 12:10 ET by buddycit is time that conservatives realized that the less money hollywood has the less powerful they are. the only way we win is to destroy hollywood. they are the cause of why the world hates us. they are the corruptors of our society.
i hear 24 is great but i won't watch it. i won't watch anything associated with cnn, cbs, abc and nbc. i won't watch anything a sutherland is in. his father is not just a liberal. he is far beyond that. i am sure the son has the same views.
during active war you don't call the commander in chief a liar, crook, buffoon and etc without absolute and overwhelming proof.
I wish we'd simply return to
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 12:19 ET by Eric TurnerI wish we'd simply return to the days when actors/actresses were in the same category as bargirls, prostitutes, and the like - social pariahs. Unwelcome in good society and not worth listening to in the way of advice on politics, economy or other subjects.
AKA: armyvet
There are too many good peopl
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 12:24 ET by balboaThere are too many good people in Hollywood to do that. And really you should blame the news organizations that give attention to Hollywood opinions, not to the actors for having them.
I know bal, but a guy can dre
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 12:28 ET by Eric TurnerI know bal, but a guy can dream can't he? On a serious note, you're right. The MsM is partly to blame. But the actors look for it themselves. They know publicity sells and they have to stay in the limelight. So they look for it. Two examples come to mind - Barbra Streisand and Sean Penn. But don't let me sound partisan - I don't care for republican actors doing either (but I don't mind them as much!) ;-)
AKA: armyvet
So, balboa, name three.
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 12:31 ET by acaiguanaSo, balboa, name three.
I know you are infatuated with Hollywood, but name three 'good people'. These people are tradesmen ('scuse me & women) who have a talant.
Aside from that? You, as usual, ignore the deliberate imposition by these people using their money (and their friend's money) to promolugate their ideas, opinions and drivel on the Public under the guise that 'any publicity is good publicity'.
Their film festivals, their self-congratulatory award ceremonies on national TV where they spit in the audience faces with their political tripe, their participation and lending of names to 'causes' that promote their political lifestyles.
You know? I think that Sutherland's opinions were expressed quite nicely here, I don't care what they are and I am not going to support them. If he were running around telling everyone that counter-terrorism was inherently evil because he plays a friggin' role on TV and that makes him an 'expert', I'd have a stronger opinion about him and the show.
When Congress brings these people to testify on issues they have no clue about because of some movie or TV role, it is a waste of my money, my time and an insult to my intelligence. But, what the hey? I'm just a taxpayer. I'm not some twit with a bouffant hair piece, facelift and enhanced boobs.
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Hey, I agree there are some g
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 12:40 ET by Eric TurnerHey, I agree there are some good people in Hollywood too and here's the list of them.
AKA: armyvet
Hey Eric, can't I practice gross generalities?
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 12:44 ET by acaiguanaHey Eric, can't I practice gross generalities?
Sheesh.
:-)
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "I love blind Monkeys and any inference that I am making fun of blind Monkeys would be wrong.
Oh sorry. Didn't mean to fo
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 12:47 ET by Eric TurnerOh sorry. Didn't mean to force your hand there. But did you see my list of who's the good people? dang it...(note to self -- stop doing that.)
;-)
AKA: armyvet
Eric,A comparison of the to
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 12:59 ET by JerryEric,
A comparison of the top 25 conservatives vs the top 25 liberals is very telling:
Republican babes:
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Sara Michelle Gellar
Heather Locklear
Bo Derek
Democrat hags:
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Babs Streisand
Janeane Garofalo
Jane Fonda
Republican He-Men:
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Arnold Schwarzenegger
Clint Eastwood
Mel Gibson
Tom Selleck
Chuck Norris
Sylvester Stallone
Kurt Russell
Tony Danza
Democrat She-Men:
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Rob Reiner (Meathead)
Dustin Hoffman (Mrs Doubtfire)
Michael Moore
Sean Penn
Jerry Springer
Ed Asner
Danny Devito
Tim Robbins
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Point made. Need we say more?
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 13:08 ET by Eric TurnerPoint made. Need we say more?
AKA: armyvet
Jerry
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 13:27 ET by Noel SheppardJerry,
For Dustin Hoffman, I think you meant "Dorothy Michaels" in "Tootsie." Robin Williams was Mrs. Doubtfire. ns
Oops. You are absolutely
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 13:36 ET by JerryOops. You are absolutely right Noel. Mr. Ishtar was "Tootsie". Oh well, sometimes it's hard to tell those girly-men apart. By the way, Mrs. Doubtfire (Robin Williams) was on the top 25 liberals list also.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
The troops sure do love Robin
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 13:44 ET by Eric TurnerThe troops sure do love Robin Williams though. When he goes on USO tours, they love him. I'd like to know where Gary Sinise and Billy Ray Cyrus stand as liberal v. conservative.
I know, I know...Billy Ray Cyrus? Who cares uh? Well, he was the first recipient of the Bob Hope award back in the mid-90s or so and it was specifically due to his work with the military. (And hey, I got a little girl who just loves that show he's in on the Disney channel).
I'm always interested in the political views of those who do a lot of stuff with the military.
AKA: armyvet
Jerry! You're cherry-picking!
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 13:45 ET by balboaJerry! You're cherry-picking!
Only a little ... :-)But if
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 13:57 ET by JerryOnly a little ... :-)
But if you look at both lists, they follow the pattern for the most part. There will always be exceptions, of course.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Sarah Michelle Gellar vs. Jan
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 14:30 ET by balboaSarah Michelle Gellar vs. Janeane Garofalo?? COME ON! It's an outrage! An outrage I tell ya'!
Robin Williams
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 13:48 ET by Dave RJerry,
Maybe I didn't drink enough coffee this morning, or maybe it is due to the fact that I am stuck here in the office when I should be out playing golf, but are you saying Robin Williams is a screaming liberal? I ask only because I have heard him make comments that led me to believe he was tilted more toward the conservative side of the spectrum, but I might be mistaken.
Here and here is info on Wi
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 13:54 ET by Eric TurnerHere and here is info on Williams. I'm sure there's more out there somewhere.
AKA: armyvet
Yup, those quotes are pret
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 13:59 ET by JerryYup, those quotes are pretty telling. Sad.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Dave R
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 14:02 ET by Noel SheppardDR,
I think Robin is a liberal that doesn't allow his dogma to get in the way of his thinking or comedy...for the most part.
What I mean by this is that he is largely an equal opportunity offender. He sees humor in everything regardless of the politics. And, as someone has already pointed out, he is one of the few in Hollywood to offer his time to the troops during this incursion. For that, he most certainly must be applauded. ns
Gees, sorry I asked. That's w
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 14:14 ET by Dave RGees, sorry I asked. That's what I get for asking before googling.
I guess I was confused since he has been doing more to entertain our people in the military than most of the other Hollywood types. Besides, I have generally respected the guy's work and have always considered him a comic genious and part of that may be that, as you said Noel, he doesn't walk around wearing his political beliefs on his sleeve.
DR
Wow, Eric, thanks for the lin
Mon, 01/29/2007 - 14:33 ET by Chicago RepublicanWow, Eric, thanks for the link. I was really shocked by a few of them. Nancy Cartwright (voice of Bart Simpson) was a big shock. I love that show but talk about a gaggle of Leftists - my heart goes out to her. I was also pleasantly surprised by some of them (Dennis Hopper, Sarah Michelle Gellar). And of course, my man Vince Vaughn - he's been great in everything he's done. I read a story somewhere about him being in a European Airport and he was getting grief from a bunch of Euros about being an American. He said, "I have two words for you. Marshall - Plan." By the way, NONE of the list of Leftist actors surprised me. I was shocked to see that Michael Moore only gave $4500. What a cheap ass! Come on, Michael - if you really believe in the inherant evil of Republicans, put your money where your mouth is!
Three good people. Hm. Well,
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 13:09 ET by balboaThree good people. Hm. Well, I imagine your definition of good and mine are different, but OK.
Mel Brooks
Jerry Seinfeld
Billy Crystal
I'm sure there are more.
So if the ACT like you're tor
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 13:11 ET by JayTeeSo if the ACT like you're torturing someone on TV, you have an automatic interview qualification to be asked about "Torture" and represent your opinions ?
I'd like Sen. McCain to compare Abu Ghrab's "Naked pyramids" to his real Torture by Viet Cong and Jane Fonda. Now there would be some expert interview information from someone who doesn't fake it.
buddyc
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 12:26 ET by misterbillbuddyc I am mostly with you, but I am a little weak. I like my weekly doses of CSI and Shark and Law&Order. In spite of that, I know you are correct. TV has corrupted every aspect of American society and films are worse. I guess this is my week for reminiscing. I am getting along in life. My wife and I were discussing the content of shows today versus the TV hits of yesteryear. A simple example ids "Father Knows Best". Hokey??? By today's standards , yes. I do not watch 24. I usually will avoid any shows with Clooney, Asner, Penn and the lib contingent. I detest Alebc Baldwin and wish I were young enough and strong enough to meet him behind the woodshed. The best I can do is to avoid his work. As I said, I am not perfect. Sometimes my interest overrides my intentions. (I recently went to "The Departed" with a cast of folks I do not like as citizens and I enjoyed it. That being said, we do not atten many movies for the reason you have cited. Why should I pay them to use my money against me?
The HistoryChannel has a lot of good shows and so does many of the cable channels.
buddyc,Actually, I think Hezb
Sat, 01/27/2007 - 12:34 ET by Dave Rbuddyc,
Actually, I think Hezbollywood is well on its way to destroying itself. Most of what comes out of there these days is pure garbage. Most of the movies have been really, really bad and that has been reflected in the box office receipts.
I also think it has something to do with the attention spans of the I-pod zombie generation, as they seen to not have the intellectual patience to sit through a feature length film as did their predecessors.
I read an article about a year ago that said that many movie makers were lamenting the fact that internet reviews of movies were circulating so fast that if one got tagged as a stinker, people would stay away in droves.
Maybe they will clean up their act, but I doubt it.
Fine Kiefer, under your..
Sun, 01/28/2007 - 12:52 ET by Gary HallFine Kiefer, then give all of 90+ % of your income to the poor, because under your.. "leaning towards socialist politics," the 10% you'd have left would make you a wealthy socialist.