For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: climate bill is a pile of s**t!
Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) had a few choice words about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) landmark climate-change bill after its passage Friday. When asked why he read portions of the cap-and-trade bill on the floor Friday night, Boehner told The Hill, "Hey, people deserve to know what's in this pile of s--t."
Is Boehner right? Watch his entire amazing speech from the House floor Friday and decide for yourself.
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Is Boehner right?
June 28, 2009 - 09:38 ET by ParagrouperDoes a Big Brown Bear make his "contribution" to carbon emissions in the woods?
Of course he's right.
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr
MOD REPUBS TAX U!
June 28, 2009 - 13:38 ET by reelman46MODERATE REPUBS TAX YOU!
Republicans
sold out their party and their country and voted with the Democrat
NATIONAL ENERGY TAX BILL. Without those eight GOP votes, the bill would
have been DEFEATED by a vote of 211-220.
The eight Republican sell-outs were: Mary Bono Mack (Calif.), Mike
Castle (Del.), Mark Steven Kirk (Ill.), Leonard Lance (NJ), Frank
LoBiondo (NJ), John McHugh (NY), Dave Reichert (Washington), Chris
Smith (NJ).
CRAWFISH NOTE: Once again, those mush mouth
moderates stick a dagger in your wallet. You will pay and pay. Judas
has nothing on these low lifers. Its a miracle McCain did not join
them. Pass the barf bag.
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)
Pelosi power grab
June 28, 2009 - 09:48 ET by jdlybrandThe main reason this bill came to a vote is because Pelosi wants to know who falls in line in the Democrat party. I bet you all the Dems that voted against this bill won't get a lot of help if running for re-election in 2010. And Boehner is correct; although "pile of s**t" is an understatement.
Politics doesn't work that way.
June 28, 2009 - 10:35 ET by Kingfish17You make a bold assumption that 42 Dems who voted against Crap and Tax actually hold a conviction that this bill is a bad thing. The only conviction that most of them hold is that they know that if they vote yes on this POS Legislation, then they will get the boot come next election cycle. (Sure, there might be a handful of them who believe in the no vote, but not 42 of them.)
The strategy is not whether Crap and Tax passes, but who amongst the dems gets to vote no so that they can tell their mellon head voters that they don't cow-tow to Pelosi! They are independents! (And they get to keep their funding from the Dem Party slush funds.)
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
I make no such assumption
June 28, 2009 - 12:11 ET by jdlybrandMy only assumption is that Pelosi wants to know which Dems will not toe the line. You think for a minute there aren't some Dems who know in their heart and mind that this legislation is garbage yet still kow-tow to the likes of her lowness. Look at what they did to Lieberman. Under the bus big-time!
Of course there are a few......
June 28, 2009 - 12:43 ET by Kingfish17Of course there are a few who know this legislation is garbage. But most of those who know this still voted yes. It's about power and money, Democratic power and more money for the Federal Government to dole out, which is of course more power.
A "no" vote by a dem however, does not mean he is principled. More then likely he or she was given the OK to vote no because they are in a district that will not like this legislation.
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
Which makes
June 28, 2009 - 12:50 ET by Paragrouperthe defection by 8 repbulicans worse. If the democrats wanted to pass this trash, the republicans should have closed ranks and forced them to do it alone. Then we would see how many of those conservative democrats would be willing to buck their constituents.
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr
Gentlemen
June 28, 2009 - 23:08 ET by RESTLESS 1I think this quote from the article speaks to your posts.
One Democrat was upset that his leaders would needlessly force
vulnerable Dems to vote for a bill that will come back to haunt them.
Mississippi Rep. Gene Taylor (D) voted against the measure that he says
will die in the Senate.
"A lot of people walked the plank on a bill that will never become law," Taylor told The Hill after the gavel came down.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Absolutely He Was Right
June 28, 2009 - 09:52 ET by mecanterNormal
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This bill truly will be the worst piece of tripe
to come out of Congress this session and it worries me that very few people or
even aware of it. I applaud Mr. Boehner for taking a stand and at least
informing the idiots voting on it, exactly what was in the last minute
changes. Being in IT and having family in the construction business this
bill will significantly impact me and my family.
MicrosoftInternetExplorer4
June 28, 2009 - 10:24 ET by RukusTime to upgrade mecanter. : ) Firefox would be a good start, hehe.
Gary
I want my country back!
Don't Know Where it Came From
June 28, 2009 - 23:07 ET by mecanterActually I am on Firefox 3.5 and have Safari, Chrome, IE8, not sure where the formatting came from may be due to a spellchecking plugin I was working with. Not using it this time so hope it does nto occur again.
When posting click on
June 29, 2009 - 00:19 ET by Dan DiegoWhen posting click on disable rich-text located below comment box for spell check.
What the opposition has to say doesn't mean anything
June 28, 2009 - 09:52 ET by FastEdWhat should concern the American people, and to a lesser extent the press (how have been totally absent from this story - the cowards), is the tale of the book being passed, maybe to become law, and who was the reader?? 1200 + 300 pages, and how many "lawmakers" read it? There should be a 'peoples' court that can sue our "elected" officials for not following their oath of office, "defend the Constitution of the United States".
If this type of politics continues, we will be watching a silent coup of our government by the very people who are supposed to work for us. I'm so glad, that only a few week past Fathers Day, my dad isn't around to see what he so heroically fought for, liberty and freedom, get trampled by the likes of this democrat party, administration and the turn coat repubics (like Lance(R/D) and Smith(R/D) of NJ) who voted and will continue to vote for the distruction of this country.
(R/D) - was a republican, now considered a demolib!
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Peoples Court
June 28, 2009 - 11:12 ET by GothampcI definitely like the idea of a peoples court. I just wonder how elected officials would buy off the people that served in that court.
The more important point though is that people keep electing these representatives who act to harm them. I live in NY and can't understand why people continue to elect Schumer. I definitely don't understand why people in MA keep electing John Kerry.
And next door
June 28, 2009 - 11:23 ET by FastEdwe have Corzine, Lautenberg, Manendez, and don't forget the Torch, Toricelli! Same kind of thoughts, all left.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
... plus 3 out of the total
June 28, 2009 - 13:13 ET by SickofLibs... plus 3 out of the total 8 Rep. turncoats who voted YES.
I am ashamed beyond belief.
I called my congressman on
June 28, 2009 - 09:59 ET by ThisnThatI called my congressman on Friday, telling her my stance against the cap and trade bill. Here's her official comments following the vote:
“This bill represents fundamental changes in our nation’s energy policy that are long overdue,” said Congresswoman Shea-Porter. “We cannot continue to deny the impact climate change is having on our environment and must act now to reduce global warming. In doing so, this bill will also create millions of new clean energy jobs, strengthen our national security, and protect our environment.”
Her favorite drink is coolaid. I've never seen her take a stance against a liberal democratic position. Never. She represents the extreme left wing of the left wing progressive party, and is a true danger to the freedoms this country still has left. Why is she so dangerous? Because she simply ignores facts and the truth, and votes against facts all the time.
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Liberals constantly demand that we accept a glaring falsehood as truth; Obama's elimination of the word "terror" will make terrorist acts less terrifying
Here's Ron Klein's apologist reasons for voting for the bill.
June 28, 2009 - 13:37 ET by acaiguanaYeah, my Congressional Representative wrote me a lengthy (mass response) to address his silly vote. Here's an except.
"As you know, energy policy impacts our national security and our economy. This legislation will implement a set of clean energy strategies that will help the State of Florida and the entire country advance our commitment to energy independence and economic security. After meeting with experts in these fields and hearing from many individuals and businesses in South Florida, I voted to support the American Clean Energy and Security Act. This legislation passed the House by a recorded vote of 219 to 212."
Nowhere does he address the issue of off-shore drilling in Florida.
What a maroon.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Sad...
June 28, 2009 - 10:50 ET by Roger the ShrubberTragic day in history...
1389: Turks begin their 500-year occupation of the Balkans after decimating the Serbs at the Battle of Kosovo.
1914: Gavrilo Princip indirectly kills 15 million people.
1997: Mike Tyson dines on some Evander with a nice Chianti.
2007: The Spice Girls announce a reunion tour. Oh, the humanity!
Evil births: Hans Blix, Carl Levin, Leon Panetta.
Roger, adding to that
June 28, 2009 - 11:25 ET by FastEdJust in Billy Mays has passed - will this mean the end of InfoMercials??
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Ouch
June 28, 2009 - 12:20 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsBilly Mays dead from a bump on the head?
D
Write Congress and say vote NO on cap and trade!
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
Apparently Billy Mays was
June 29, 2009 - 07:27 ET by Roger the ShrubberApparently Billy Mays was born and raised in McKees Rocks, one of the lesser-blessed boroughs of Pittsburgh.
All the local news channels are tripping over each other to interview Yinzers from The Rocks who are related, were friends, or once saw him at one of the 3 strip clubs in the town.
Wait a minute
June 29, 2009 - 11:07 ET by FastEdHow do YOU know there are 3 strip clubs in town?? Hum!?!
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
OK folks, waaaaaaay off topic
June 28, 2009 - 10:53 ET by Rukuseven for an open thread. Mrs. R. went out yesterday with her sons and grandkids and ended up in a pet shop. Looks like our little family is fixin' to grow by one... a 3 month old Lhasa Apso. Any NB's have any experience with this particular breed? I don't want to derail a perfectly good OT so PM me if you have any remarks, good or bad. Thanks.
We now return you to you regularly scheduled program.
Gary
I want my country back!
Gary, buy two of the Lhasa Apsos.
June 28, 2009 - 13:38 ET by acaiguanaThey make great slippers.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
→ Lhasa Apso
June 28, 2009 - 14:08 ET by Cool ArrowI think Billy Mays was working with Orange-Glo to sell those dogs as dust mops.
Under my plan of a cap & trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket - BHO
Good evening Cool
June 28, 2009 - 14:22 ET by cocodrieThe dust mops are OK but be careful with that Orange-Glo, it can send you to an early grave.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Billy Mays Dead - FOX NEWS
June 28, 2009 - 11:07 ET by Dan DiegoBilly Mays Dead - FOX NEWS
Wow!
June 28, 2009 - 11:12 ET by RukusI can't believe it! What's going on lately? I wonder what happened. Talk about coming out of left field! Wow, just wow! Sad.
Gary
I want my country back!
I was just starting to
June 28, 2009 - 12:14 ET by ricklailI was just starting to watch his show "Pitchmen." I was a good break from most of the crap on over the air TV.
Semper suprene nitens
Pitchmen
June 28, 2009 - 12:31 ET by RukusI haven't watched that show at all. I just wonder how the media is gonna blame it on climate change or GW or whatever. It's still sad though. He seemed so full of life, very sad.
Gary
I want my country back!
Having watched his show,
June 28, 2009 - 13:44 ET by ricklailHaving watched his show, he was a very good businessman. He would not pitch a product unless he was convinced it would sell. I think that he may have gotten a cut of the sales. His son was doing the producing and directing for the ads.
Semper suprene nitens
Billy Mays, Died ,BECAUSE get this: GLOBAL WARMING!
June 28, 2009 - 16:06 ET by upcountrywaterTampa area media outlets reported that Mays was a passenger on a U.S.
Airways flight that made a rough landing on Saturday afternoon at Tampa
International Airport, apparently blowing its front tires in an
incident that left debris on the runway.
Reagan VS Liberalism
The Worst of Times
June 28, 2009 - 11:13 ET by iveseenitallDickens wrote about "the worst of times". We are living those times now as America is being destroyed by a small but quite powerful group of charlatans and thieves. We have the most corrupt government in the history of this nation. Ten percent unemployment and growing, the highest debts and deficits ever, more taxes and hyper-inflation on the horizon --- and that's only on the domestic front. Meanwhile, our "represenatives"along with the lobbyists, the lawyers, and the likes of Algore,et.al., are making Al Capone look like a choir boy. Where will all end? Not in a good place. Storm clouds are gathering---rapidly. Be afraid.
NEVER,NEVER turst a "liberal"
And while all this is happening
June 28, 2009 - 11:27 ET by FastEdthe "news" media fiddles, while our pockets burn from the frictino of cash leaving to pay taxes.
Seems the death of a possible drug induced pedophile is more important than losing our freedoms.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
Bread and Circuses
June 28, 2009 - 11:52 ET by ironchefofmunchiesI am convinced we have fallen to the "bread and circuses" stage and we all know what happened after that, right?
History repeats itself-but our American Idol society has forgotten the lessons of the past and will therefore be forced to relive them.
Bread and Circuses!
June 28, 2009 - 12:22 ET by iveseenitallRight on , Iron... this Micheal Jackson thing is a prime example. Look no further than this "tragedy" to see who haunts the newsrooms of America---emotionally challendged, immature adolescents---be they twenty-six year olds or sixty-something like that jerk Gerry Rivera. There was a time in America where a "story" like this would be confined to a Hollywood gossip column. Now it's mainstream. Sad.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
The Michael Jackson story
June 28, 2009 - 12:28 ET by ironchefofmunchiesThe Michael Jackson story has hidden the fact that the House is passing an energy bill (unread, that doesn't even exist in written form) that will tax every thing in the country directly or indirectly.
No folks, the circus is in town and let's all gaze up at the Michael Jackson train wreck. Pay no attention to those robed masters with their hands in your pockets. Whatever they steal, er, take, er, "invest" will be for your own good and you don't really need to know the details.
And when you wake up someday to an Emporer, I won't be around to say "I told you so".
The Country's In the Very Best of Hands
June 28, 2009 - 13:08 ET by upcountrywaterhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY1yszeePz8
Reagan VS Liberalism
jessieH
June 28, 2009 - 11:24 ET by jessieHjessieH Remember these times, they will never be back. Boehner is right. It is a pile of s--t. I watched the whole thing on C-SPAN, the only place that wasn't crying over M. Jackson. It wouldn't matter if three fourths of the country called their congressman. They don't care what WE think. They have companies ready to screw US, waiting in the wings. Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank, Waxman & Merkel, have invested a lot of money, our money, to push this down our throats. Mr. obama has a huge roll in this. Are WE ready to vote these people out of office & take our country back, yet?
Actually people were calling
June 28, 2009 - 13:54 ET by SnappyActually people were calling and Pelosi's congradulatory statement was that they held firm and were not swayed by the mass influx of calls.....this is another example of how our elected officials view the public that voted them into office.
I can't wait to see their
June 28, 2009 - 11:34 ET by motherbeltI can't wait to see their reaction when they find out that American oil companies are importing more oil from overseas in order to get around the rules!
This steaming pile is not only NOT going to reduce, (which Obama says he wants) but will increase our dependence on foreign oil, but is going to cost American jobs, too.
To save the day, President Obama will take over the oil companies and force them to switch to providing wind and solar energy, and then claim that by doing so, he "saved" all those jobs!
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Careful what you wish for mb..A politians reaction only hurts us
June 28, 2009 - 12:51 ET by upcountrywaterOnly us the people will suffer...
However GM will provide us with the cars, lovely cars for the people..
Reagan VS Liberalism
I"m back
June 28, 2009 - 12:07 ET by ricklailLast Tuesday morning I was taken to the hospital having difficulty breathing. I thought I had a collapse lung because it felt like the others I have had. Intial diagnosic was a blood clot in the left lung. I was treated for that. Still was not getting better. After a bunch of test that completed Saturday afternoon it was found that I have COPD. I haven't smoke in many years but the damage is done. They released me last night so I am at home. I should be getting a CPAP machine tomorrow. I have to sleep on oxygen. My whole point here is this has been one heck of a week. MJ dying and the crappy energy bill but I forgot all that when it came to my health. Those things are important but being here to see the grandkids grow up are more important.
I've got to make some lifestyle changes and they are not going be easy for someone like me that looks at eating like a sport. I am cleared to go back to work on Wednesday. I don't have to be on oxygen all time.
Having spent 5 days in the hospital I got an ear full from all the heatlh care personnel about Obama care. I get to all that later in the week. I wonder if I would have even gotten to the through door of the emergency room on Monday or gotten anywhere near the battery of test I was put through under Obamacare.
Semper suprene nitens
Hi rick
June 28, 2009 - 12:14 ET by RukusI'm sorry you have had to go through all that. I will add you to my prayers. Bless you and I hope things get better for you. Don't worry about Barry's health care crap, the Lord will see you through. My thoughts are with you. Take care friend.
Gary
I want my country back!
Good evening Rick.
June 28, 2009 - 12:36 ET by cocodrieGod bless you and yours.
Under Obamacare you would not have needed those tests nor the specialised treatment. The undertaker would had you looking fit as a fiddle in your best suit quick as a wink.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Stay away from the Olbermann items
June 28, 2009 - 13:10 ET by KC MulvilleTake it easy. Rest. Avoid anything that might drive your blood pressure through the roof. (Somebody, please God, remove MSNBC from the available channels on his clicker.)
Seriously, get well.
I know of (2) different sources...
June 28, 2009 - 12:23 ET by ncstevemthat claim Cap & Tax will die in the Senate.
The s**t link to the Hill newspaper in this story quotes a Dem congressman who says the bill will never make it through the Senate. Rush talked about an NBC interview A. Mitchell had with H. Reid who claimed the bill will never make it through the Senate. I believe Rush was watching the interview live when he talked about it on his show (Thur or Fri. ?).
Anyone have further details if this is accurate and possibly what the story is as to why it won't make it through the Senate?
our mission
June 28, 2009 - 13:06 ET by CatherwoodBottom line here is all of us who oppose this insane legislation should begin now to contact US Senators and urge them to stop this perpetuation of big government and major price and tax increases on just about everything. Let the Senators know that if this thing passes with their support then there is going to be hell to pay come election time. We should also oppose all the dims who voted for the bill and then tar and feather all the traitorous Republicans who went over to the other side.
Done
June 28, 2009 - 13:11 ET by Paragrouperand I will continue to do so.
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." - General George Patton Jr
Boehner should donate some
June 28, 2009 - 13:16 ET by SickofLibsBoehner should donate some stem cells so the rest of Republicans can grow testicles. (At least the males)
Re Honduras
June 28, 2009 - 14:07 ET by slickwillie2001Do you think that the Bamster seems very concerned about a possible coup in Honduras because the ousted President Zelaya is a leftie, a buddy of Hugo Chavez and probably very close to the Bamster himself in a political sense? At the same time he seems to be more supportive of the islamist mullah regime in Iran than most Americans are. Is he in favor of hope and change as long as it goes in a far-left direction?
Army Overthrows Honduras President in Vote Dispute: http://www.reuters.com
TARP for Rum
June 28, 2009 - 14:17 ET by slickwillie2001Our TARP money, $2.7B, going to the British manufacturer of Captain Morgan Rum in the US Virgin Islands:
$2.7 Billion in TARP Money Went to British Rum Maker: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog
Put a little of the TARP in you!
How 'bout our boys on the
June 28, 2009 - 14:39 ET by Lord ElicaniHow 'bout our boys on the U.S. soccer team? Leading brazil 2-1 just after the half, and less than 45 minutes from our first FIFA cup.
"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."
Padmé Amidala, Revenge of the Sith
Climate Bill
June 28, 2009 - 14:45 ET by trhugThe suggested article title says about what sane individuals would say. The futility of such legislative exercises will no doubt result in several losses of tenure in the HOR( House of Representatives) or HORUS. Washington D.C. is so out of touch with most constituents that if all reps & sens were replaced, there would be nothing lost as far as important legislative actions. In fact "we the people" could breathe long enough to absorb the effect of this wrecking crew machine-gunning proposals of "reform".
The constitutional republic once known as USA will die as a power very soon if no one changes the direction of governmental
trends.
Gary L.
MEANWHILE, BACK IN IRAQ.........
June 28, 2009 - 15:59 ET by MrShyWith the media's infatuation with MJ (not to mention their annoyance with having to concede that Dinner Jacket and Iran might indeed be an axis of evil), it's up to people like myself to remind everyone of what is still THE MOST IMPORTANT thing going on in the world (and what the MSM quickly wanted to move on from) .... IRAQ:
http://www.nytimes.c...
These new clashes with thousands of protestors and the arrest of Iranian employees of their British Embassy (no biggie, right?) was a small headline pushed down on the NY Times' homepage... pretty amazing.
You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!
Hey MrS... Glad you
June 28, 2009 - 16:05 ET by bigtimerHey MrS...
Glad you mentioned this....I mentioned all the different topics discussed today on the various talking head shows, and did forget to mention Iraq....
I saw that article on the Wash. Journal I think it was this morning....glad you have it here...plus King on CNN had a pretty good segment on today too regarding Iraq.
I understand/agree with your points here with what went on in Iran today too...and of course the headlines being pushed where the were in the NYTs etc.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Andrew Jackson Two Hour History Channel
June 28, 2009 - 16:18 ET by Kingfish17When the History Channel first came out I loved it, even though it could have been called "The Hitler Channel" because of the preponderance of WW2 footage they used to show. The other day, I watched a two hour show about the life of Andrew Jackson. It was a very well produced show with lots of good historical inforamtion. But what got me was the comment they made about his first run for the presidency against John Quincy Adams.
The narrator stated, "This election could have been viewed as the first election that pitted the Democratic Party vs the Republican Party, with Jackson as the Democart representing the views of the comman man, and Adams as the Republican representing money, big business and special interests." The election took place years before the Republican Party was even conceived of!
This is the reason I don't watch the History Channel as much as I use to.
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
Kf... Same reason I don't
June 28, 2009 - 16:25 ET by bigtimerKf...
Same reason I don't as much anymore either.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
*facepalms* "So this is
June 28, 2009 - 22:45 ET by Lord Elicani*facepalms*
"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."
Padmé Amidala, Revenge of the Sith
THE "CLIMATE BILL"
June 28, 2009 - 19:41 ET by LEWIS IN COLORADOI am hearing some stuff that not only it wasn't read-it couldn't even be read because the dems hadn't even finished putting it together !!!!! This is how hard they are cramming this "STUFF" down our throats. !!!!!!!!!!
Speaking of a pile of sh!t
June 28, 2009 - 23:27 ET by RESTLESS 1The idea of taxing insurance bennies is stinking to high Heaven as well...well, not if you're in a union. H/T Drudge
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Evening R1.... Haven't
June 29, 2009 - 00:11 ET by bigtimerEvening R1....
Haven't read your link....but do know about this.
Stink to high heaven indeed.
Going to be interesting to see what all happens with this too...it is sometimes so unbelievable, it seems surreal... it's hard to keep up with the leftists plans and their power, plus them getting shite in one way or the other.
Divide...Destroy and Conquer.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Who is this Dr Nancy on
June 29, 2009 - 11:52 ET by Another Dead KennedyWho is this Dr Nancy on MSNBC this morning? Has she been properly vetted by NB yet?