Presidential Debate Thread


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Please, PLEASE, John... lay

Please, PLEASE, John... lay out the actual history of Freddie Mac and Fannie May, and the 2005 effort you co-authored to keep this meltdown from happening (and the party-line Democrat refusal to admit there was a problem).  The voters NEED this info, and they're not gonna get it from our "news media" (and I use the term in the loosest possible manner).

habby... I'm hoping for

habby...

I'm hoping for the same thing..and more.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Agreed, the truth MUST be

Agreed, the truth MUST be brought to light of how this all came about.

Since the debate is about foreign policy can we get someone to ask Obama how come it took him a few tries to come to the same conclusion as Sen. McCain about Russia invading Georgia?

Jesus Christ!

*I* could wipe the floor with Barry!  Senator McCain is a damn disappointment.  He is making no good points and just letting opportunities get away.  This isn't rope-a-dope... this is the future of the free world.

Sarah Palin should be at the top of this ticket. 

Gordo

Melmac

I agree...

Same thing GWB has done in not going on the attack against critics. We need some BALLS in power. I think McCain has them, but won't us them because he is reaching across the "ball-less Isle" of "bi-partisnship". I don't think McCain said "Democarts" once even when Barry trashed Bush countless times.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

You jest I hope?

Normal
0

Are you talking about "The Keating Five" John McCain? or the
supporter of " TheGramm-Leach-Bliley ACT" McCain?

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081006/sumner 

Who needs Democrats to poke fun at when Republicans keep electing such
morons?

 Any conservatives
in the room? anyone?

Since most of the

Since most of the comparisons we seen have been hearing about were between Palin and Obama, I was hoping she'd be "cleared in hot" (aviation term, ground pounder equivalent is "fire for effect") and clean his clock. 

Guess we'll have to let McCain do it instead.

"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"

So, the debate is on. I

So, the debate is on. I wonder if we'll hear any of Barack's greatest hits or if they'll ask him about his previous flip-flops and gaffes, like these all-time favorites:

Just Words...Just Speeches?

We'll see just how good he is without his security blanket teleprompter and left-wing-dominated audience.

*If you like the comments, check out the articles.

Somehow...

Today John McCain went to Washington to help push the "bailout" plan through. Now, according to Reed, McCain didnt say much, but somehow he managed to derail the whole thing...he just ruined it.

What ever could McCain have said or done that destroyed the whole plan?

As I understand it, there was no agreement on any plan either before or after McCain came in and "wrecked" everything. Supposedly the meeting with the president, Obama and McCain was mostly Obama speaking and apparently it degraded into a bit of yelling and screaming and the result was, Obama floundered around as he was unaware of the details and couldnt hold the meeting together for lack of information and leadership.

The Dems spent the rest of the day making McCain looking like the one factor that destroyed the plan as a means of covering up Obama's failure to lead the meeting. Obama even broke into Brit Hume on Fox to make his little statement about being better able to work over the phone (with handlers whispering in his other ear).

The Senators are getting 10:1 calls opposed to this plan and the dems are hesitant to push anything through without Republican signatures so theyre not entirely on the hook alone. The Dems are in the majority, they dont need substantial Republican support to push any plan through.

The moral of the story, if you see the Dems lips moving, they are lying. Hopefully tonite McCain can explain what happend, if not the downstream media will play it out as Dem talking points specify and make Obama look like the savior of the free world while making McCain look like a senile, grumpy old man....pathetic!

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Ask yourself: Do I want a good paying job, or do I want a government hand out. Its that simple!

Two questions Lehrer won't

Two questions Lehrer won't ask, but needs to be asked:

To McCain: Senator, you dropped what you were doing, went to Washington D.C., and tried to actually do something to try to straighten out this financial mess. Can you explain whether this shows America how you will act as President?

To Obama: Senator, you kept on with your campaign, made some phone calls, gave some speeches, and only went to Washington, D.C. to attend Thursday's meeting when asked to do so. Can you explain whether this shows America how you will act as President?

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Obama and his teleprompter

Whenever Obama is without a teleprompter he struggles, I
expect the same this time around. Also voters like direct answers, Obama
doesn't know how give a direct answer. Hillary is not the best debater and she
beat Obama in 22 of the 22 debates they had. McCain can give a direct answer,
just like Bush did in 2000 to beat Gore, I expect the same strategy. Am more interested
in the Palin-Biden debate, I expect Palin to surprise a lot of people and put
to rest all the bs she has been getting from reporters and CNN, the most hated
name in news.

How frustrating it must be

How frustrating it must be for his handlers, hours spent in prep that results in uh..., er..., um..., I've always said.... er..., uh...

Prior to debate start, they should check for any electronic devices hidden on Oblahma. May take awhile to ensure there's nothing in those ears.

Pizza & Beer

My wife's ordering a big pizza and after that we might have to do tequila shooters...,  whenever OObama stutters..., hope it doesn't go too long, I could be looped!

Either use small shot glasses...

Or have an EMT on hand, because you wont make it past the first 30minutes...no human could!

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Ask yourself: Do I want a good paying job, or do I want a government hand out. Its that simple!

EMT on hand

LOL..., I may have to adapt the rules a little..., every 10th..., no, every 20th stutter..., awe heck, I know I'll be clinging to my religion and my guns..., and my booze getting looped!

 

Kennedy

 

Kennedy was taking to the hospital tonight.

 

I'll bet hes glad we don't have socialized medicne now. 

Wouldn't matter if we

Wouldn't matter if we did.

Just like the Politburo, the elite would go to the head of the line.

As they say, nowhere is class more obvious than in a "classless" society.

St Pete

Air Kennedy to Air Traffic Control ..

Please advise on approach to St Peter's Gate.  We are circling and low on fuel.

Good evening Air Kennedy: 

This is your air traffic controller, Mary Jo.  Landing privleges denied. Prepare to ditch the aircraft.  Do you need help with a rescue?   

Barak Obama is a political sociopath..

The most disgusted name in news

Even Obama knows that CNN is in the tank for him big time. His campaign has put out a text to his supporters to watch the debate tonight on CNN. I'll be watching the little factoids they put at the bottom of the screen. I bet they're 2:1 pro Obama.

http://www.mediabist...

CNN has MovedOn...

MovedOn from the Clinton News Network to the Communist News Network

NO OBAMUNISTS PLEASE

McCain has to knock the

McCain has to knock the socialist messiah out tonight. I mean, he needs to click off the safety from the word go and fire with both barrels.

If he doesn't, his campaign is in deep trouble.

-Dave

Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them - Rick Roberts

My troll fuse length today: 0.045mm

Hey watch channel

Hey what channel are we going to watch the debates on?

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.- George Santayana

C-SPAN or Fox.  Need to

C-SPAN or Fox.  Need to watch a grown up channel and not listen to the airheads on the alphabet channels.

Well...let's see how long

Well...let's see how long it takes for Jimmy boy to start making McCain look like a religious nut.He'll say "did God tell you how to fight the war in Iraq?You know this is going to be a bias alert time.

 

Dems.+lawyers+MSM=ONE

Dems.+lawyers+MSM=ONE how

Dems.+lawyers+MSM=ONE

how about:

Dems.+lawyers+MSM+unions+academia+hollywood+"oppressed minorites"=ONE

 we're everyone else.(i.e. average hard working people)

Truth Squad

I see B.O. now has a 'truth squad'.  Isn't barackobama and truthsquad an oxymoron?  If they have one in the audience tonight they'll have to push the eject button on B.O. before the thing even gets started.

Barak Obama is a political sociopath..

LOL...good catch

LOL...good catch TheAssessor. That would make a good skit on a comedy show.Now all I can think about is watching O boy getting ejected by an ACME spring.

Well folks... Are we

Well folks...

Are we ready for some Luke-Warm Blood-Sport!!!

I'm getting ready to get comfy, open a cold one...sit back and get furious...lol!

Catch ya' all later...maybe...just depends on how much I'm steamin' by everything, and everyone.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Luke-Warm my Arse!

I made a big mistake saying luke-warm...my God this is the best blood bath I've seen McCain ever give...and I didn't even like him...lol.

Dee...I told you not to be pessimistic...just adding this on in case we miss each other friend.

I am going to forgive McCain for his first 20 minutes or so...I am so tickled with what he has done tonight...I cannot wait to hear the talking heads spin this...which they will...already have the same old talking point word or phrase in the hopper...I know what to expect...but it is not going to work with us Americans out here...same as the bail-out..we see it for what it is..

Thank you John...you have creamed this POS so far...and I know you will keep us safe in the USA...as much as possible. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Oh, Ronnie...

I love that line Reagan used about the youth and inexperience of Mondale and not making age a campaign issue. 

McCain needs a memorable line like that.

C'mon John!

Here's your chance to brag on your accomplishments.  Take the opportunity and highlight the 2005 Housing Reform Act.  

Jesus, er, I mean Obama looks a little nervous

McCain is smooth... fake sympathy for Kennedy, feelings for the economy...

 

Accountability? what's that?

700 billion is potentially

700 billion is potentially a lot of money??????

 

You IDIOT, it IS a lot of money!!!!!!!

Pre-emptive mispeak by

Pre-emptive mispeak by Obama - "I brought up this problem 2 years ago."

The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty

he is lying through his

he is lying through his teeth right there, he was 100% silent while bush and mccain were trying to change the regulations. the democrats stone walled.

I was trying to be polite.

I was trying to be polite. :)

The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty

McCain needs to point out

McCain needs to point out this started 12 years ago

Not only that, but he needs

Not only that, but he needs to tell the people how it happened. He is just BSing his way through this now.

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C'mon McCain , slam home

C'mon McCain , slam home that the Democrats prevented you from stopping this train wreck!!!

I'm already upset...

Five minutes in and I'm already ready to turn the debate off.  McCain describing Ted Kennedy as "...my good friend, the Lion of the Senate.'"

My first complaint is that McCain isn't powerful enough, or smart enough, to negotiate an unbiased moderator.

In fact, this does it for me...I'm gone.

Goodnight.   

Oh wait!

Before I go I'd just like to say hello to my good friend, Dr. Jack Kevorkian.  Oh yeah, and my good friend, Joy Behar.  And I can't forget my best buddy, ol' what's her face...Whoopi Goldberg...and Keith Olbermann, the Lion of Liberal Media.

Now let me get down to business...

Yeah, they call that

Yeah, they call that "Senatorial" where a guy stands up and looks at his foe across the aisle and says "My good freind..."

Well, frankly, I think we need much less "Senatorial" and much more "Stick a bayonet in em" from our side of the aisle. 

The problem wasn't main

The problem wasn't main street or wall street it was government policy of granting loans to people who could not repay them

Sorry, close to 50% of the

Sorry, close to 50% of the people pay no taxes, how can you cut them for 95% of the people?

McCain should be crucifying

McCain should be crucifying Obama on this topic. What the hell is he doing being a pussy. OK - talking about high corporate taxes. He is doing this right...maybe.

The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty

who is obama giving hand

who is obama giving hand signs to? seems kind of odd...

He is starting to get

He is starting to get beyond the scripted answers. He is going to start um'ming a lot.

The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty

First Assessment

Barack looks like a kid trying to impress his old man.  Jim is trying to order them around like kids.  Very uncomfortable way to do this.  McCain looks like the older, wiser leader.  Bambi is lost in word salad. 

Barak Obama is a political sociopath..

Why do you think

Why do you think corporations are sending jobs overseas?  It because we have the 2nd HIGHEST corporate tax in the world!!!!

They send jobs overseas because it's cheaper!!!!!

 

YEAH!!!!!! McCain brought it up!!!!!!!!

He could have explained it

He could have explained it better, but you are right - at least he brought it up.

The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty

Festooned...

Great word! 

Barak Obama is a political sociopath..

Those are not the Oil

Those are not the Oil Company tax breaks I knew.

The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty

Obama wants to increase oil

Obama wants to increase oil production at home? how can he lie to us with a straight face?

Yeah, to bad his nose does

Yeah, to bad his nose does not reflect it, he would tip over if it did.

Lehrer Pulls It Left

Jim Lehrer has completely abandoned the subject of the debate. I wonder who gave him the word to dump everything so that Obama could hammer McCain on "tax cuts for the rich and the oil companies".

McCain is kicking his ass

McCain is kicking his ass BIG TIME!!!

McCain is kicking his ass

McCain is kicking his ass BIG TIME!!!

Anybody else notice that

Anybody else notice that Barry's touched his hair with some gray?  Trying to play the elder statesman, I guess.

Sadly, McCain doesn't have the cojones to call Obama on the carpet. He won't even ask Obama why he has Raines and Johnson on staff.

Coach

Who is Obama looking at? Looks like his coach.

 

 

 

Not just looking, but giving

Not just looking, but giving hand signals too.

Right on

Obama looks like some eastern European tennis prodigy getting signals from his coach at the US Open.

 

Nice.

"Obama looks like some eastern European tennis prodigy getting signals from his coach at the US Open. "

LOL!

 

A tissue of lies

I find it more and more difficult the older I get (57 now) to put up with half truths and misleading statements. It is exceedingly difficult to watch most oliticians speak, as they tend to lie when they open thier mouths. I find McCain lies outright less than most and Obama has perfected the political double speak that has led us to this trouble.

  LOL, Leher just called

 

LOL, Leher just called them both out!!!

Mc Cain had to know that

Mc Cain had to know that Obama was going to use that 95% of America is getting a tax cut.

Why in the hell did Mc Cain not hit him with: 95% of Americadoes not pay taxes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

40% do not pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was a door opened the size of Alaska!!

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

"I'm not willing to give up

"I'm not willing to give up the need to do it (develop domestic energy)."

What the hell kind of stupid comment is that?  Obama's not willing to GIVE UP the NEED to develop domestic energy.  How can anyone give up the NEED?!  Frickin' moron.

Google for Government?

hahahahahahahahaha.. that's pathetic. 

Obama is NOT doing well. Check your gut.  McCain is solid straightforward, sounds like he knows what he's talking about; bambi loose..makes you uncomfortable..

Barak Obama is a political sociopath..

Unfortunately McCain is on defense

I like McCain but he is on defense. All the questions so far have a slick way to put McCain on defense while at the same time giving Obama a pass. McCain needs to go for the kill. All of Obamas prep was to force McCain to lose his temper. I think right now the country would like to see him lose his temper and dress down Obama like a Naval Acadamy Plebe.

Obama makes a good point on infrastructure

Poor people need DSL so there's low latency on their stock trading and multiplayer role playing games!

Lessions from Iraq?  We can

Lessions from Iraq?  We can not have the democratic party saying we lost the war every day in the senate and house

How about not having our

How about not having our democrat senators convicting our soldiers of war crimes from the other side of the world.  

How about not having our

How about not having our democrat senators convicting our soldiers of war crimes from the other side of the world.  

Obama tap dancing

Way to go John. Obama is tap dancing. Obama is fabricating McCains History.

speaking

people are commenting on obama's audible pauses and stammers when george w. bush is president??? people, please. here are some of george w.'s new entries into Oxford:

Misunderestimate

Unceptable 

Subliminable 

find a relevant argument instead of being childish. 

It's all stratigery

It's all stratigery

Atta boy, John!  Don't let

Atta boy, John!  Don't let the Messiah cut you off.  Teach the young'n a lesson on respect!

Childishness?

Childishness is Obama pretending President Bush is his opposition, rather than Sen. McCain.

Childishness is Obama refusing to answer questions, steering wildly back to his handful of talking points, repeatedly mugging for the camera while Sen. McCain is speaking, then repeatedly interrupting him.

Obama is, for now, having his hat handed to him, though I concur in wishing Sen. McCain would give him a plebe-style dressing down.  I do know that driving to Oxford for the debate would've been a bad idea, because I wouldn't have been able to keep my mouth closed.

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

off course

the Oxford reference was towards Oxford Dictionary.

and my point was a rebuttal to posters' comments on Obama's speaking style.

all your points have no relevance to the matter i was referencing. please stay on topic. 

Hush.

This is a comment thread for the Presidential debate.  George W. Bush isn't running for the office, and isn't on the stage.

However, bringing up President Bush, as both you and Obama are pathologically compelled to do, is what's "off topic" in the first place.  Obama is a lost little deer in the woods, unable to string two coherent sentences together in a debate, much less take on the responsibilities of the Presidency.

--Mike

www.thebrattonreport...

 

re:speaking

Interestingly, GW's speech foibles have always seemed to me to make him seem more "human" -- like he is just a good old normal person.  BHO's stammering makes him seem unsure, and like he is struggling because he knows that what he is saying is false, but he is just saying it to get elected.

ok

it's clear that you voted for W both times to make such a preposterous statement. if clinton or any non-republican consistently misspoke like W, this board would eviscerate him.

be real. 

re: ok

WE have just sat through 7+ years listening to the MSM poke fun of  the president of the USA everytime he fumbled a word.  The MSM has absolutely been hel%-bent on trying to embarrass the president of the United States --- Do you think if a clinton, obama, or any other non-republican president ever got a word or two mixed up the MSM would even mention it? --much less rake the democrat over the coals for it?   Doesn't make blog members poking fun at someone who is so unsure of himself that he cannot even speak without stuttering seem quite so preposterous now, does it?

Jim Lehr inturrpted McCain Shredding BHO on the Iraq War

Lehr didn't want McCain on a ROLL....he tried to interrupt...along with BHO interrupting all the time 

The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

Lehrer has interrupted

Lehrer has interrupted McCain numerous times, and has let Obama interrupt him more than once.

If you're a moderator, then moderate, dammit!

 

"... smells like... victory." - Robert Duvall

Indiana

Of course, he has to interrupt...his messiah is losing. Did you just catch how bho could not remember the name of the soldier whose bracelet he wears...he is such a joke.

I don't think we saw that

I don't think we saw that bracelet either. McCain had his.

Good point

I saw him look down but I did not see a bracelet.

Since we aren't supposed to call him by his full name...

...we must, in the future, refer to Barack Hussein Obama as Barack "I've got a bracelet, too!!" Hussein Obama.

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

 

Please please please,

Please please please, someone tell me WHY obama would support a surge in afghanistan when he says TO THIS DAY that he would not have voted for the surge in Iraq?

Obama favors a surge.

He'll start it the day after he's (shudder) inaugurated.  It will, unfortunately, be a surge against the American people.

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

 

I'm no Obama supporter but

I'm no Obama supporter but thats been a Democratic presidential talking point for the whole campaign that Afghanistan was the 'right' war and Iraq was a bad idea.  Its kind of extraordinary in how the way far left is anti-war in all circumstances but thats where both Obama and Hillary have been the whole campaign.

Obama said pakistan and

Obama said pakistan and taliban with an accent. I guess he doesn't want to offend them. haha

No, it is just his muslim

No, it is just his muslim background showing.

I like the way McCain IGNORES BHO and smiles

Especially when BHO is lying through his Teeth.....LOL 

How many times has BHO said "Senator McCain is RIGHT"

I count twice so for.....only once for McCain say BHO is right. 

The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

How soon after soldiers

How soon after soldiers start dying in large numbers in Afghanistan do you think The Messiah and his un-American friends will start to call for pulling our troops out of there?