Politico Editor Proudly Announces Story Calling Americans ‘Stupid’ Was His Idea
Politico editor John Harris--known to some for his tendentious questioning during a presidential debate which provoked Newt Gingrich's first of many attacks on liberally biased debate moderators--stepped forward yesterday to proudly proclaim that that it was his idea to create a story questioning the intelligence of the American electorate.
As noted by Tim Graham here at NB, the piece was a perfect recapitulation of the rant made by former ABC anchor Peter Jennings following the 1994 election which saw the first installation of a Republican congress in decades. Instead of accusing his fellow Americans of having a "temper tantrum," Harris simply repeatedly called them "stupid," heavily emphasizing the word on four separate occasions.
Appearing on a little-watched Politico internet podcast which happened to be simulcasted on C-SPAN yesterday, the pompous Harris stuck to his guns, even acknowledging that the entire Burns story was based on nothing more than a "rant" of his in the newsroom which he then assigned his underling to write up because he "want[ed] seen."
Judging from his comments, it appears what caused Harris to go off on his fellow Americans was a series of push polls done by the liberal Public Policy Polling outfit designed to promote the notion that all conservatives and Republicans are militant dunderheads. It's clearly worked on Harris, who like Jennings, does not appear to ever have been concerned with widely believed false liberal notions such as that former president Bush directly caused or allowed 9/11 to happen.
Nope, just like the earlier meme that "Washington is broken" (back when Obamacare was stalled in Congress), Harris swallows and regurgitates the liberal talking points perfectly. He even did so despite the reservations of his colleagues who weren't particularly keen on calling their fellow Americans morons.
"If you're going to say something, you may as well go all in and go with the most provocative headline but everybody decides to occasionally hedge bets," Harris said, referring to an internal Politico debate over what kind of headline to put on the piece. In the end, a less abrasive headline, "How Much Do Voters Know?" was chosen over his objections. Still, Harris took consolation in the fact that he was able to get the piece illustrated with a photo of Tom Hanks in "Forrest Gump," a film about a mildly retarded man who has brushes with greatness despite his general cluelessness.
"I feel I won this debate in part because we did get a picture of Forrest Gump to accompany the story, Forrest Gump in this case representing the sort of ignorant voters out there who are saying these wacky things in polls," Harris stated.
Full transcript follows:
JOHN HARRIS: Well it was a story that I encouraged to be, uh, written. A lot of times stories generate, uh, from, uh, people's, uh, rants, uh, editors' rants, my rants, your rants, things that were, uh, striking us in the news that we're ranting about, we're saying 'Why don't we get somebody to write this up?'
One of the prerogatives of being an editor—it's got its compensations—we can make people write up things that we want seen. Alex Burns wrote up one of my rants which was looking at some of these polling numbers that have been out recently. You've mentioned them already at different times on the show already, Jim, the results from Mississippi showing a majority of Republicans think that President Obama might be Muslim. Well it's not true, that's just wrong. Some of the concern about how come he doesn't do something about gas prices. Well the president can't really control gas prices in a complicated global market.
To me, some of these poll results just seem stupid. So I asked Alex Burns to, said, why don't you do a piece that looks at the question of whether voters are stupid and a lot of the things that they say in these polls are just plain stupid and Alex warmed to the assignment and he wrote this. He actually found a number of sources from pollsters who say yeah, that's the first thing you learn as a pollster, voters are stupid.
They didn't mean that literally, they meant that often they're expressing their opinions in a context of ignorance, they don't really understand the issues although they're happy to pop off if a pollster invites them to. So you do get some results that seem stupid even if the voters themselves aren't actually stupid.
Anyway, he wrote this good piece, we put it up on the site, some people thought it went a little too far, it seemed too much like a rant. Craig Gordon who's been on the show, Daniel Jones, our web editor, you could tell they were a little uncomfortable with the piece 'Wow are we really pushing it too much?'
So they didn't really want the sharpest headline, the sharpest headline would've been 'Are Voters Stupid' or if you want to be even sharper you could make it not a question, you could just switch the order of the verb 'Voters Are Stupid' and the piece would've probably supported that. I think instead we went with something a little more neutral, 'Do Voters Understand the Issues?' or 'What Do Voters Know?' or whatever.
The debate was whether to go with the sharpest possible headline or a more muted one. I think you and I were in the same place. If you're going to say something, you may as well go all in and go with the most provocative headline but everybody decides to occasionally hedge bets. I feel I won this debate in part because we did get a picture of Forrest Gump to accompany the story, Forrest Gump in this case representing the sort of ignorant voters out there who are saying these wacky things in polls.
Four final points here:
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While there certainly are false notions which Americans believe to be true, to imply that Americans are somehow stupid is actually problematic when you consider the fact that, as Washington Post blogger Erik Wemple points out, the American electorate has never been more educated than right now.
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Harris's two examples of Americans' alleged stupidity don't actually indicate what he thinks they do. While it's true that President Obama cannot directly control the price of oil or gasoline, what he can do is increase the supply of it and thereby lower the costs. This basic fact of economics seems to at least be partially understood by liberals since there is some clamoring on the left to open up the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserves, a cache of oil stored by the military for use in cases of national emergency.
Of course, doing that would be far less likely to impact oil prices given the SPR's small size relative to the global oil market. What would be much more effective would be for Obama to stop blocking domestic oil production here in the U.S. and to approve the Keystone XL pipeline. The oil from these places wouldn't immediately go into circulation in the market but it would mean higher supplies of oil in the future, thereby driving the value of oil futures down.
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Harris's other example of Americans believing something that's false, the idea that Barack Obama is a Muslim, isn't utterly incorrect, either. As the New York Times noted in 2008, because Obama's father was nominal Muslim at the time of his son's birth, this makes Barack Obama a Muslim under the religion's rules of patrilineal descent.
There's no evidence that he is a practicing Muslim so in that sense, it's true that Barack Obama is not a Muslim. He's also said that he's a Christian and has been baptized as one, an act of apostasy under Islam. So while he has been a Christian for a number of years, it is fair and correct to state that Barack Obama was born a Muslim.
The finer points of Islamic law can generate confusion on this point, unfortunately it seems that in Harris's mind, such confusion is only the product of people being "stupid" and not simply having insufficient free time to become aware of all the particulars of Barack Obama's personal religious opinions.
As false as the Obama-Muslim idea is, it's worth noting that there aren't any prominent conservatives who have spouted it in contrast to prominent liberals spewing 9/11 conspiracy talk such as Rosie O'Donnell or Van Jones.
- In general, Harris seems to be exemplifying a distinct tendency of liberals to conflate their own political opinions with the absolute truth. This obliviousness to differing viewpoints has given rise in the self-described mainstream media to so-called "fact checking" stories which often accuse Republicans or conservatives of "lying" simply for having different opinions about political issues. This tendency was examined in a great article last year by Weekly Standard's online editor, Mark Hemingway.
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You want an example of how
Submitted by Barabbus on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 4:51pm.
You want an example of how stupid they can be Mr. Harris? How about buying into "hope and change" as a game plan. The dopes and deranged bit on it like big ole Groupers. Nothings working now, they're in panic mode.
How about believing ObamaCare would only cost $900 bil?
Submitted by frank14 on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 9:33am.
He must have enjoyed a good laugh yesterday when the real price tag of $1.8 trillion came out and the lib media ignored it. Suckers!
So let me get this straight…
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 4:54pm.
A pollster asks a “gray-area” question but designs it to elicit a black or white answer… and the person who attempts to give the best answer it is the stupid one…. Is that about right?
BTW, I agree that some Americans are stupid… I’m thinking about the “41 Percent” who still think Ear Leader is doing a good job.
- Grump :o)
Paging Dr. Gallup!
Submitted by metaphorsbwithu on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 5:10pm.
I've taken college courses in public opinon. You are taught many people will give "doorstep responses" for issues they know little or nothing about.
The challenge is to create questions that give an accurate picture of the population's attitudes NOT to nudge people toward certain responses as the agenda-driven political activists of today do.
Remember George Gallup, who started it all?
Dr. Gallup refused to conduct a poll that was paid for or sponsored in any way by special interest groups such as the Republican and Democratic parties.
The days of Dr. Gallup, who passed away 28 years ago, are mostly over.
Psuedo intellectualism is so
Submitted by d1carter on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 5:12pm.
Psuedo intellectualism is so cool...oh, and btw, Politico is so stoooopid...
Stupid?
Submitted by mrwiffle on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 5:15pm.
Only an ignorant moron of a Liberal would have voted for that Half wit Obama.
Please! Mr. Wiffle.
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 5:20pm.
Don't squeeze the moron! ;->
AC,
Submitted by Hog_Flambe on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 5:58pm.
Thanks for the chuckle.
:-D
Well, when I
Submitted by nolefan2 on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 5:17pm.
consider what we have in the WH now, I have to admit that there are a lot of stupid people out there. And, by the way, Mr. Rant....prove Duh One isn't a muslim. You can't do that any more than someone can prove he is. Why don't you admit what you really believe......and that is that Southerner voters are stupid. Some of us out here can read "between the lines." Well, you can kiss THIS Southern voter's grits.
50% of Americans...
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 5:18pm.
have below average intelligence.
You're welcome. :-)
Obama is the greatest
Submitted by okie-pastor on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 5:22pm.
Obama is the greatest evidence that John Harris' statement is correct!
Public School intelligence
Submitted by powers2be on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 5:31pm.
a large percentage of the population IS stupid. They consist of the post-1990 public school graduates who have been taught what to feel rather than how to think.
They believe: that debt doesn't matter, never did, never will. The Climate is irreversibly warming and that it is all man's fault. That the term man consists primarily of evil white males and the women who love them. Conservatives are evil and stupid not necessarily in that order. That minorities are enlightened by virtue of being not of the majority and the only way they can be wrong is to deny liberal dogma which makes it politically correct to slander them or call them sluts and whores.
Hey now...
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 6:00pm.
Leave this post-1990 public school graduate out of it.
Of course, I had two other things that proved to be inoculations:
1) a military brat education and
2) active participation in the economy from a young age.
Oh, and I was also a teacher's worst nightmare, as stubborn as (expletive).
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
That began in the 60's
Submitted by Willis_Leon_Johnson on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 6:57pm.
Sometimes in the 80' I read a report that stated "60% of the public school teachers came from the bottom 40% of their highschool graduating class".
The lesser intelligent 'teachers' did not have the mental skill sets necessary to TEACH or hold the interests of the children.
The children soon became bored and in search of something to keep their mind occupied began disrupting class through 'unapproved activities' that amused the young minds.
Since the children were, at that point, ahead of the 'teacher', they were 'uncontrollable' and attention deficit disorder was invented to explain away the failures of the 'teachers'.
How many brilliant childrens minds were destroyed by drugs because of zero to none minimum standards required for 'teaching positions'?
oh... silly me, they were all union members and not expected to have much of a brain or any critical thinking skills....
End 'gun violence in America' - Require training and MANDATORY "Shall Carry" by every Citizen.
If harry reid is the best person to lead the senate, what does that say about the other 99 senators?
There are some exceptions...like me!
Submitted by tvhall on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 10:50pm.
BS computer Science, MS EE, 14 years Military Officer, 10 years government contractor, then I went in to education as a secondary Math instructor. The first several years were good to OK, then the quality of students and the quality of administrators started to go to hell. I was expected to coddle the students with the soft prejudice of low expectations, make them feel good about their half assed attempts or non-attempts at learning the material and then took it on the chin when the standardized test results came in (yes I took my subject seriously and broke it down so that any student who was even half motivated could be competent in the subject) but the minorities expected to be passed on no effort, and thought my class was just another place to act like they were in the hood or barrio. The white trash knew I was a subsidized baby sitter. Yes I had students who wanted it and was able to reach them but I could have taken them much further if I could have eliminated the disruptions (40% of the students).
I did not bow to the yearly "Revolutionary" new fad and taught by clear instruction and examples. But I wasn't afraid to demonstrate I was smarter and more educated than the Doctors of Ed and almost everyone outside of the Math and Science departments. Then one student made a false accusation that was cleared under investigation but none the less I was transferred to a more ghetto school. I tolerated it for 9 days and I punched(with a military retirement and teachers retirement). I leave education to the ones who were in the bottom 10% of their graduating class that have no other option than to teach in public school.
The under class is self selected, stupid indifferent people having sex on public support and making stupid offspring. Then by example training those offspring to be indifferent leaches on the rest of society.
Even if we pay teachers more to recruit more qualified personnel those will have a fairly short burnout from the constant shit the students give teachers with impunity and the total lack of support from administrators.
Without the union the level of incompetence would increase as each year teachers would be fired so the administration could hire friends and relatives (and I hate the union generally but not as much as administrators).
Want better education, look at Utah one of the lowest per student funding one of the highest achievement levels. The reason? Family values (and no I'm not a Mormon but I never had a misbehaved or lazy Mormon student).
Obama is only accelerating the death of a nation that was already being poisoned by the flotsam and jetsam coming out of our public schools each year.
Well, he is right on a couple of things
Submitted by Willis_Leon_Johnson on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 6:49pm.
Washington is broken, and it was broken by the politicians that he loves so much.
People are stupid because they keep sending the same corrupt politicians back to continue the destruction of the nation.
What the States need to do, and the non-stupid LEGAL VOTERS need to do is beat on their State representatives and Senators to pass legislation/ Constitutional Amendment that makes it a criminal act for any politician, bureaucrat, political appointee or judge, at any level of government to intentionally vote in favor of any piece of legislation that violates either the State Constitution, or the United States Constitution.
Minimum punishment, not less than 2 years in general population, maximum punishment for multiple violations would be the death penalty.
The Amendment should plainly and clearly state that the minimum punishments are well known and signed off on prior to the violation, thus any violation will be willfully asking for the punishment as directed.
And make it an automatic 10 years in general population prison for knowingly voting illegally in any election.
That should take care of the 'stupid people' voting for corrupt politicians... you won't be able to find any.
babble headed trash like mr harris could be charged as an accessory as well.
End 'gun violence in America' - Require training and MANDATORY "Shall Carry" by every Citizen.
If harry reid is the best person to lead the senate, what does that say about the other 99 senators?
"Stupid" as in what context?
Submitted by drsamherman on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 8:19pm.
He considers voters "stupid" because they don't agree with him? Stupid because they don't believe in the rantings of his political ilk? Stupid because they openly question what is being force-fed to them in the mainstream propaganda?
However his definition of stupid arises, it is indicative of a narcissism and emotional imbalance he should address with appropriate therapy. To say that it is childish would be to insult children--even an infant acts with more maturity.
What is stupid is the continued support of a form of government
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 8:42pm.
...that killed between 100 and 200 million people in the last century on the part of people such as John Harris.
It doesn't get any more moronic and ignorant than that.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
We'll find out exactly how
Submitted by rbosque on Thu, 03/15/2012 - 10:35pm.
We'll find out exactly how many stupid people there are after the November election when the numbers come in for Obama.
In the comments
Submitted by Bob K on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 12:52am.
at my local papers website there are about three liberals who comment all the time.
One, who I know is an old gaffer, at least older than I, never fails to toss in the word "TeeHees" to describe conservatives. He assumes that all conversatives are Tea Party members.
Another who likes to refer to Santorum as "Pope Santorum". Other favorites of his have "Crazy Eyes Bachmann" , The Quitta from Wasilla". And his latest contribution is referring to Romney's "Magical Mormon Underwear" when he can.
These two and the remaining one never miss a chance to point out that average American's are "stupid", "not well informed", uneducated, unable understand complex issues........... And, of course "racist".
You would think they would be "enlightened" enough to notice that they are winning no converts at all to their side with their opinions of the average person.
Oh, I left out the one that is the most fun. A woman who insists on using a hyphenated last name. She was really doing well in her rants until I discovered that a book she had written (a Vanity Press book you cannot find on Amazon) trashing Christianity (though she is a self proclaimed atheist), was more than it first appeared. She reveals that she is a firm believer in the assclown who wrote "Chariots Of The Gods" and is a firm believer in the theory that benevolent saucer people created man and gave him all the wisdom he possesses. And that they will one day return. LoL.
After i responded with a long comment about that authors various convictions for theft and fraud, and his having to admit in court that some of his evidence was fabricated......she stopped flapping her pie-hole for quite a while. She really disliked being outed for a loon.
Oh, I also ripped her a new one when she was bragging about her sons business in a rural area, off the grid, and how the solar panel system he put for his home and business, in paid for itself in just 2 years. LoL. Pure B.S. and impossible.
Libs, God love 'em. LoL
Bob
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 9:18am.
Wow, that's one fishwrap you have there posing as a local paper. Has anyone ever tried writing using phrases like "nobama" or calling him the Chicago thug? Or would that be disrespectful to a sitting president?
I'd be screaming about the "Pope Santorum" comment because it's mocking my religion as a Catholic.
Just for good measure
Submitted by KornKing on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 10:28am.
How about throwing in "Barack the magic negro"?
John Harris could not be more
Submitted by big.league.slider on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 1:19am.
John Harris could not be more wrong. American voters are actually quite astute. And the fact that Obama easily won the 2008 presidential election is proof of that fact. But when I say that American voters are astute, it's not for the reason you would imagine.
The voters that sided with Obama in 2008 did so based on their own self interests. Obama convinced them that as president, he would give them all sorts of free goodies. They would be free to live a life of leisure, unencumbered by the responsibilities of working, paying taxes, or earning what benefits they receive. Obama's opponent made no such promise. Faced with such a choice, wouldn't the smart voter choose Obama?
I'm willing to bet ...
Submitted by crosspatch on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 3:43am.
That most politicians were voters before they were elected to office.
So we're stupid? The average education level of the American voter is the highest it has ever been. The voter today is more qualified to make their own decisions than ever before. Over 85% of Americans have a high school education. It was 75.2% in 1990. In Boulder, Colorado, over 50% of the population has a bachelor's degree. Over 65% of high school graduates go to high school right after graduation.
The unsaid implication here is that Americans are dumber today than we were in the past. In 1900 only 6% of Americans had a high school education.
And what makes someone suddenly more capable of making decisions just because they have won an election?
John Harris - Braniac
Submitted by Free Thinker on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 1:51pm.
John Harris is the smartest person in the world. Don't judge him for judging you because he is smarter than you are. I mean c'mon people he is a reporter for Politico, why do you doubt what he says? I wish I was a smart as John Harris and I too could contibute so much value to our society. The only way people could be as smart as John Harris is if John Harris created a way to clone John Harris.
AS they say: If the foo s h i t s...
Submitted by Ruler4You on Fri, 03/16/2012 - 4:17pm.
I'm going to be on both sides of this here in a moment, so bear with me a bit.
This article "IS" an open attempt to use intimidation or (lame) intellectual coercion to get "stupid" Americans to 'finally see things' their way. Socialism "IS" the goal of the msm. That has to be clear. They have stated it so often and in so many ways that it can't be denied at all. And things aren't "progressing" at the rate die hard communists would like. Coupled with the distinct potential for obangos defeat based on current understanding, it could be many years before another qualified communist can be groomed for the opportunity and presented properly cloaked.
But, the fact "IS" that Americans are stupid. Or more accurately, ignorant. Now, we all know you can't fix 'stupid'. But ignorance can be fixed. It's a matter of understanding. Those who understand and still aren't involved are the stupid ones. And there are enough of those out there to make a general statement like the author did. We are being indoctrinated with the best efforts the msm can muster, based on current access to 'brain power' available. And it frustrates them that we aren't standing in line to buy their manure. So, what do the communists do better than any other single thing? name calling.
And that brings up my next and final point. msm contempt for Americans, no matter what your personal beliefs may be. The msm looks at Americans as tools. To used or manipulated for the purposes they 'deem' to be of 'social' import. After all, they are educated. And you are not. So, they, naturally, are more qualified to make decisions that affect you than you are. Savvy?
The msm are already communists. Time magazine declared their communist (socialist) commitment: "We're All Socialists Now" as the headline on their work.
Well, you had better savvy, 'cause that's the way it "IS". And you ignore these obvious displays of real subversion at your own peril.
Dumb or Stupid
Submitted by m1xram on Sat, 03/17/2012 - 11:38pm.
So is John Harris saying he's not American or that he is stupid? Maybe he's an elite qualified to rule us. Maybe he knows what Americans think of tyrants.
The opposite of Left is Freedom.