Lawrence O'Donnell: I'm Too Afraid to Criticize Islam

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Say what you will about liberal pundit Lawrence O'Donnell but you have to give him credit on occasion for fessing up and saying what media liberals really think but are too circumspect for fear of public backlash.

Appearing on Hugh Hewitt's radio show to speak about his earlier rant against the Mormon religion and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney's belief in it, O'Donnell let loose, revealing what most everyone on the center-right already knew: left-wing media pundits are too afraid to criticize Islam as much as they do Christianity or Judaism:

LAWRENCE O'DONNELL: I don’t think he [Mitt Romney] believes everything in the Book of Mormon. I think he’s lying about that. It’s an insane document produced by a madman who was a criminal and a rapist. [...]

HUGH HEWITT: Would you say the same things about Mohammed as you just said about Joseph Smith?

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O'DONNELL: Oh, well, I’m afraid of what the…that’s where I’m really afraid. I would like to criticize Islam much more than I do publicly, but I’m afraid for my life if I do.

HEWITT: Well, that’s candid.

O'DONNELL: Mormons are the nicest people in the world. They’re not going to ever…

HEWITT: So you can be bigoted towards Mormons, because they’ll just send you a strudel.

O'DONNELL: They’ll never take a shot at me. Those other people, I’m not going to say a word about them.

HEWITT: They’ll send you a strudel. The Mormons will bake you a cake and be nice to you.

O'DONNELL: I agree.

HEWITT: Lawrence O’Donnell, I appreciate your candor.

Quite an admission indeed. (Full transcript here.) And of course, while there is much you can say in the negative about Mormonism, there is much more you can say about Islam as Christopher Hitchens did earlier this year at a debate with leftist former New York Times reporter Chris Hedges about Islam:

It's exact equivalent of the evil nonsense taught by Hedges and friends of his, who say the suicide bombers in Palestine are driven to it by despair. Have you read the manifestos of these suicide bombers? Have you seen the videos they make? Have you seen the manifestos they put out? The propaganda that they generate? These are not people in despair.

These are people in a state of religious exultation. Who are promised everything. Who are in a state of hope. Who are in a state of adoration for their evil mullahs. And for their filthy religion. It's this that makes them think they have the right to kill others while taking their own lives.

If despair among Palestinians was enough to create psychopathic criminal behavior, there's been enough despair for a long time, and enough misery to go around. It is to excuse the vicious, filthy forces of Islamic jihad to offer any other explanation but that it is their own evil preaching, their own vile religion, their own racism, their own apocalyptic ideology that makes them think they have the right to kill everyone in this room, and go to paradise as a reward.

I won't listen, nor should you, to anyone who euphemizes or excuses this evil wicked thing.

Excusing, however is exactly what's going on. For all their constant talk about "speaking truth to power," the liberal media rarely are interested in doing that. Whether it's Islamic terrorists bent on creating a worldwide theocracy or regional dictators like Fidel Castro, the liberal media are silent when standing up and saying something could actually be meaningful.

Hat tip: Conservathink.

—Matthew Sheffield is Editor of NewsBusters.


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Matthew, My

Matthew,

My understanding of this exchange was that O'Donnel's comments about Muslim were in and of themselves a swipe against Islam.

I also don't agree that his comments about Mormonism were bigoted.  Mormonism is the weirdest, most absurd set of beliefs ever.

Jesus in America?  That's the kind of statement that LOL was invented for.  Jews in America in 500 BC? 

I mean, come on.  Mormons aren't fooling anyone with their silly religion and their creepy creepy history of child abuse/sexual slavery/polygamy/inbreeding.

Thanks for sharing your marvelous religious insights, leon

Your mature theological wisdom is always enlightening. 

Of course, any religion is susecptible to being ripped by those of a different belief, including by those who practice the religion of atheism.

RJ, As usual no actual

RJ,

As usual no actual comment on my claims.

Mormonism is a religion with a history of sick practices, such as child abuse, sexual slavery, & inbreeding.

This is indisputable. 

LOL, and RJ calls me a

LOL, and RJ calls me a bigot. 

I don't support any criticism of the LDS based on their collective past behavior.  Let's be fair and keep it on current beliefs/doctrine apart from the community as a whole.

-PJ  

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07 

Trach, I am

Trach,

I am current. 

There are literally tens of thousands of Mormons that still employ these sickening practices.

 

So, you just believe any

So, you just believe any group of anachronistic polygamists that comes along when they claim to be the "real Mormons"?  There's so many smaller "unofficial" sects out there, who do you believe?

Careful, that's a loaded question.

 -PJ

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07 

Come to think of it Leon,

Come to think of it Leon, it's like blaming the entire Roman Catholic Church for the Tridentine Catholics failing to recognize the current Pope.

-PJ

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07 

Trach, Failing to

Trach,

Failing to recognize the Pople (perfectly reasonable belief) is a bit different than abusing children as part of your religious practice.

We're dealing with very different degrees of extremism.

 

i just have to

i just have to laugh:)

especially entertaining today people...

after several Mormon's and Christian's here recently celebrating their anti-Muslim bigotry in spectacular living technicolor...

shoe's on the other foot now i see...

don't worry - it will be back on the original foot tomorrow - and then back - and forth - and back - and forth...

 

I'm sure...

and we just have to laugh at you. You truly are a clowns clown. So based on this will Mormons now behead someone or blow up a shopping mall as the ones you coddle to?

"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"

"I am current." Leon, I

"I am current." Leon, I claim B*llsh*t on that statement. Polygamy was banned by the Mormon Church prior to statehood in 1896. In fact that was one of the conditions for statehood imposed by the U.S. government. Anyone who is a member of the Church who practices polygamy is excommunicated from the Church. Those who practice polygamy may CLAIM to be Mormons, and may hold many of the same beliefs of the Mormon Church, but they are not Mormons.

As for your figure of "tens of thousands", that sounds to me like Hillary's "tens of hundreds of millions" of Americans who need money in their pockets. Do you have a link to a reliable source for your claim?

As for child abuse claims, if you are referring to the recent stories of the polygamists in Utah who have child brides or arrange for children to be wed, once again, THEY ARE NOT MORMONS. They are as Mormon as the Westboro Baptists are Christian...in other words, not at all.

Once again Leon, you have an opinion based entirely upon ignorance. Do some research before you post. It could save you some embarrassment.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

MikeB, According to the

MikeB,

According to the FBI, Warren Jeffs has approx. 10,000 followers in his FLDS church.

That number only includes domestic FLDS members.  It doesn't include the thousands and thousands of FLDS members that live in Central America to escape America's laws against polygamy, child rape, and sexual slavery.

The Westboro baptist church has 180 members.  180.  To reiterate, 180.  There is no comparison between FLDS and Westboro.  FLDS is much much larger and a much more significant proportion of the Mormon population.

You say they are not Mormon but do they not follow the Book of Mormon?  I'll bet Joseph Smith would consider Warren Jeffs to be more of a true Mormon than any mainstream Mormons.

Child rape & sexual slavery are an original part of Mormonism.  Their 'prophet' taught that it was right. 

Once again MikeB, you have an opinion based entirely upon ignorance. Do some research before you post. It could save you some embarrassment.

Leon, the FLDS church is

Leon, the FLDS church is not the LDS church. Jeffs and his followers are therefore not Mormons. Jeffs and/or some of his followers may once have been Mormons, I don't know. But, if so, their beliefs and practices got them excommunicated from the Mormon church. They either are not, or are no longer Mormons.

What you bet, or think what Joseph Smith might consider is neither here nor there. The Mormon Church is defined by certain beliefs and practices. Jeffs and Co. violate those defining beliefs and practices, therefore, they are not Mormons.

Once again, Leon, you have an opinion based entirely upon ignorance. Do some research before you post. It could save you some embarrassment.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

Mike

Leon tried to start this on the open thread and the admins deleted his comment.

candance

Someone should code an auto-delete feature for NB that can scan idiocy in all Leon posts... which would be a vast majority of them.

Any good web coders/programmers here? (I mostly do design :p)

 

"No wonder I turned out so amazingly amazing."

-- Leon (Robin to Professor TP&C's Batman)

Mr Shy...

Here's the algorithm:

If Poster == Leon then Delete;

One line of code, so simple a caveman could do it.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Where to begin on this

Where to begin on this one…

Leon you haven’t a clue on the LDS faith.  Polygamy was practice but outlawed by the US in the 1890’s.  Once it was outlaw the Church stopped the practice.  ANYONE who engages in child abuse, sexual exploitation of children, or polygamy is excommunicated from the Church.  They are not a part of the Church.

What ever else you think of Mormons is your opinion and as I have said before, I will let God be the judge not you or anybody else.   

As far as this O’Donnell is concerned, he needs to remove his head from (selected favorite orifice) and do a little more investigation into the LDS faith then what he reads on anti-Mormon web sites.

“Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay its price.”   Sun Tzu 

 

If polygamy was Divinely

If polygamy was Divinely commanded, then how could the LDS Church stop practicing it just because the US outlawed it? It all had to do with statehood. The US would not admit Utah into the union until polygamy was outlawed. If the US outlawed communion would Catholics and Protestants stop practising it? Or would there be a "new revelation" that God changed His mind about communion?

The LDS Church has a history of "new revelations" when needed. Their god changed his mind about polygamy when statehood was at stake.

You dont have to believe me. Check them out for yourself. And what exactly did O'Donnell say that wasnt true?

And I'm not here to insult or offend any Mormons. I'm just a messenger.

There is none so blind as they that won’t see. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745

Misterbee, your reply is an

Misterbee, your reply is an entirely different subject than Leon's claim. As I've said before on this site, many different religions have made doctrinal changes for expediency's sake ... both political and otherwise.

Your other question is also a different subject than what the thread covered. The topic was that O'Donnell admitted that he refused to criticize Islam like he did Mormonism because he was afraid of the practitioners of Islam. He could criticize Mormons with impunity because he knew that Mormons wouldn't kill him for such criticism, whereas Muslims would. As for what was true or not true about what he said, go back and read the thread that was posted about that topic a few days ago.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

MikeB, It supports my

MikeB,

It supports my claim entirely.  Polygamy is a major part of the religion.  They only stopped because they had to.

Mormonism is a diseased religion filled with built on vile practices.

Plus they make grown adults wear magic underwear.

Polygamy was a major part

Polygamy was a major part of their religion. For that matter, polygamy was practiced by the Jews and the Israelites, too. David committed adultery, yet is described in the Bible as "the apple of God's eye". Solomon had 500 wives and concubines. Therefore, Judaism is a diseased religion filled with built on (sic) vile practices. Jesus was a Jew. Therefore all of Christianity is a diseased religion filled with built on (sic) vile practices. Congratulations. You've just proved Hitchens, et al., right.

For that matter, when the Constitution was written, only landowners were allowed to vote. Women were not allowed to own land. Only white males owned land. That was over 200 years ago, but by following your logic, because that was the belief of the founding fathers as evidenced in that very important document, the United States citizenry still believes and acts that way. Obviously that is not so. Are you arguing that anyone who advocates taking the vote away from women and minorities is a "true American"? If not, why are you making a similar claim about today's Mormon Church?

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

"indisputable?" haha leon

Thanks for making my point again, leon.  As has been shown by several other posters on this thread, you've once again exposed your ignorance on a subject.   And, as I said, all religions (especially atheism), are subject to being ripped. 

P.S. Speaking of ignorance, how's that search going for links supporting your claim that all paper today is recycled?  ;^)

RJ, All paper today

RJ,

All paper today contains recycled materials.  To varying degrees, but recycled materials nonetheless.

 

Glad to see you back off from your original ignorant statements

about recycling...but you still need to be careful of that word "all."  ;^>   

I would suggest going here:

I would suggest going here: www.mormon.org.

It's an official LDS website. Decide for yourselves what Mormonism teaches and if it is in agreement with Scripture.

There was some truth in what O'Donnell said, but he needs to learn to say it in a non-confrontational manner.

And the truth is not bigotry.

There is none so blind as they that won’t see. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745

America B.C.

Leon, Leon, Leon...I am not want to criticize any of the many divisions in the Christian faith...I will leave that to the Biblically Illiterate...but, I must tell you that ancient remains of many alien visitors have been found and documented from America BEFORE CHRIST..let's see..the Back Creek Stone found in Tenessee shows the writings of 9 HEBREW priests...then you got a bunch of OGHAM (ancient Irish) inscriptions found in New Hampshire and Vermont..you got yer Chinese anchor stones found just off the coast of California..Lots of documentation of many visitors in America BC in Biblical archaeology...and, frankly, Jesus created America and I'm not quick to Question the visitations of Christ. Hey! I'm no Mormon, I'm just yer regular Christian, but at least do some homework B4 you proclaim something as ridiculous.

If you are going to assail one division of Christ, you should assail them all.

God said LET THERE BE NO DIVISIONS AMONG YOU.

Seems like any more divisions are almost endless in the body of Christ.

I'm just sayin' is all....                    

 

Fear

I would like to criticize Islam much more than I do publicly, but I’m afraid for my life if I do.

That is it in a nutshell. This is also why the MSM refuses to criticize Clinton(s), fear of death (to their career).

D

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

fear of death (to their career)

'career'? Can you say "A walk in Ft. Marcy Park with Mrs. Clinton"?

Poor Vince

Wizardjr....quit readin' me mind, laddie!

NOT CRITICIZE ISLAM

Every once in a while liberals will let their guard down and say what they really think. Its ok to bash Mormons and Christians but not Muslims beacuse the Muslims will kill you. But liberals believe that Chtistians are the bigger threat to civilization. If the Muslims ever take over the world and impose Shira law on it they will separate O'Donnell's head from his shoulders. Then he and the other useful idiots woun't have to worry about those bad old Christians anymore!

I don't know Der, With

I don't know Der,

With these recent church/mall/school shootings, I'm more worried about the 'bad old' American Christians in my own backyard than the extremist Muslims thousands of miles away.

 That was a hate crime

 That was a hate crime AGAINST Christians, Peon.

 

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

Um now how was the shooter

Um now how was the shooter raised?

It was Christian v. Christian killing

In fact, he planned on being a missionary.  He was angry b/c his health prevented him from doing so. 

Murray participated in a Youth With a Mission training program 5 years ago but his health barred him from doing field work and going further with the program, YWaM director Peter Warren said at a separate press conference in Arvada.

LINK

He was angry at the program and angry at the program directors.

So can it really be a hate crime when it's a one person killing another person of the same race/religion?

Yes.

Yes it can, it was and should be classified as such.  If a Muslim converts to Christianity and then kills another Mulsim for the sake of his religion or practices- isn't this a "hate" crime?  Same with this kid, he was a Christian, fell out of the whole religion and then killed because those people were Christians.  Or are Christians immune from being victims?

Capt., He was bitter (and

Capt.,

He was bitter (and insane!) that he was denied the chance to be a missionary 5 years ago, when he was 19. 

Legally an adult. 

What's all this kid talk?

Not a hate crime. 

Sorry, some of older folk believe 19 -27 is still a kid.

Okay so insane people get a pass on hate crimes?  We can debate sanity all day, but there is a double standard when it comes to hate crimes in the media, that's what this is about.  Christians can NEVER be the target of a hate crime or victimized, at least not in the news.  Disagree?

Capt, Unfortunately for

Capt,

Unfortunately for you the law subscribes to a different definition of adult.

If he was a Muslim or a Buddhist or a Taoist or whatever it would be a hate crime.  However, as stated earlier, Christian v. Christian renders any hate crime argument irrelevant.

There's even a chance he was/still is a member of the New Life church.  The police say they are still investigating.

Okay, so you wanna call him

Okay, so you wanna call him a Christian, that's fine, you wanna call him insane, that's fine, you wanna call him bitter, that's fine.  We can make arguments for all of those things until we crash the internet, but again, the double standard that exists in the media in regard to portraying Christians as victims of hate crimes in a general sense DOES exist.......true or false? 

Leon, he hated

Leon, he hated Christians.  After being kicked out he stopped be a Christian by his own words.  His hate was toward a group of people not a single Church.

“Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay its price.”    Sun Tzu

"...Christian v. Christian

"...Christian v. Christian renders any hate crime argument irrelevant." Why? Are the victims any less dead? If he rejected the church and/or God, is he still a Christian? If you answered "yes" to that last question, justify your answer. From the sound of it, he hated, and that was the motive for the crime. Hence a hate crime.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

I agree with you Leon on

I agree with you Leon on the age issue. I don't like describing actual adults as "kids."

 I know, you're amazed. Me too.

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

Fear displaced

Maybe you should be afraid of your un-Christian neighbors Leon, seeing as they are killing each other on a daily basis. Of course, we all know you have no real fears of Christians and are just slamming Christians to keep with your profile of hatred and your attempts to smear all religious people.

D

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY??!!

Remember..we have an open southern border and Islam is right next door..in the schools..at the stores...in the public library....the car driving next to you!Jeez...

After many years of

After many years of studying Bible prophecy I am convinced that Islam is going to be the world religion. That is based on the fact that Christians will be killed in droves. What other religion kills Christians now? Currently Satan rules Islam. He will in the future. The liberals need to see the threat that Islam presents not Christianity.

One day people like O'Donnell will bow to Allah or they will be killed.

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” General George S. Patton.

Rick, My predicition is

Rick,

My predicition is that the normal, rational people of the world get fed up with all the violence & chaos resulting from the Muslims v. Christian conflict and give up religion.

I predict Christianity and Islam will disappear.  And the world will be a better place

Thanks Leon

I understand now why the Bible tells me not to cast my pearls before swine or give that which is holy unto the dogs. Thanks Leon you make the Bible become so clear.

 "May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” General George S. Patton.

No need for despair. The

No need for despair. The Bible promises us that at the moment when it seems that all is lost, that is when Christ will return and will triumph over the evil.

"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." -Matthew 7:20

Dyne

When I lived and worked in Israel, I asked a group of my Israeli friends what they were doing. They said "Waiting for the Messiah" and laughed. You have a long wait as well. Good luck with that.

Leon:
All religions have had inbreeding, most to a lessor degree than LDS did in the past.

It's amazing that almost all the religious myrmidons here equate non-belief with hate. How absurd.

So called hate crimes are equally absurd. A crime is a crime. Period.

O'Donnell is a coward, afraid to offend those that want us all dead or converted to their repugnant religion.

So called hate crimes are

So called hate crimes are equally absurd. A crime is a crime. Period.

the thought police are living inside of my head...

the thought police come to me in my bed...

...or something like that!

Hate crime is makeing an opinon a crime. It's such a stupid concept. I don't have to like anyone, and if I chose to hate them that should be my call. Further, if I hate a certain group and commit a crime against them, it doesn't make the crime worse.

Now if the dream police would just come and take me to the land of conservatives (some might know it as Heaven).

Well, for once, the rich white man is in control. --Montgomery Burns

Well, your friend from

Well, your friend from Colorado is certainly helping you achieve that prediction.

Hey Capt, How is he my

Hey Capt,

How is he my friend? 

Way to try to associate me with one of your own.

He was a sick insane freak.  I don't have maniac friends.

He's one of you, not one of me.

What was his goal?

To kill Christians.  What is your prediction- that Christianity will end, this means either ridding the world of Christians or forcing them to deny their beliefs.  Seems to me while your methodologies differ (thankfully), you both  have (had) the same ideology.  I will use the term "friend" loosely here.

How is he "one of me?"  Because he was a capitalist, a businessman, a family guy?  Not quite sure where you are going there- sorry if I hit a nerve.

Leon

How -- HOW? -- can you equate the danger and violence of Muslims with Christians? It's completely absurd.

There's one battle going on in the theater of religion: Muslims vs. all non-believers (and mainly vs. progressive, western, modern culture, of which we are both part of) by a movement that's been loud and proud for decades now. There are acts of killings and terrorism daily -- by Muslims. Period. End of (there never was a -) debate and (this is a waste-of-time -) discussion.

I'm serious, it's completely baffling to me when I hear people lump these two together.

 

"No wonder I turned out so amazingly amazing."

-- Leon (Robin to Professor TP&C's Batman)

come again?

"And the world will be a better place" [question mark] ??

And how might that be?  If there is no God, then everything, including this very conversation, is utterly and completely meaningless.  End of story.  This includes such quaint notions as "love", "forgiveness", "compassion", "the dignity of life", "equal-dignity in the eyes of God", "self-sacrifice", "bravery", etc. -- these are all meaningless concepts without any inherent value.  Everything is a mindless dance of atoms.  What are we left with then?  I like to quote Lt. Col. Frank Slade: "Well, then, take the fuckin' WAX outta your ears! GROW UP! It's fuck your buddy. Cheat on your wife. Call your mother on Mother's Day. Charlie, it's all shit."

Consider carefully what you wishcast.  Not that it will ever come to pass, but the world will most certainly not benefit from the wholesale rejection of God, as pushed by atheist simpletons.

Lord of the Rings- if

Lord of the Rings- if nothing else Leon gets us talking around here.  If he wants religion to end and push an athiest agenda he knows it'll never happen this universe.  Just because we think that this should be considered a hate crime, he thinks we are all radical, right wing bigots.  I just want a little fairness in the media, that's all.

Yes -- lively debate is a

Yes -- lively debate is a good thing.  I don't know enough details about the church shooting to comment. 

I will say that the admission of "preferential treatment" by the Talking Head...

"I, like other cowards throughout history, like to pick on Christians/Mormons, because they're nice-guy, pushover, pussywimps, but they have the audacity to propose that the Moral Law applies to me, a secular-humanist, as much as them." (my pararaphrasing)

...is the first step toward self-enlightenment that can then bring about a change of heart.

P.S. I couldn't help but be flattered that you called me by my full name rather than my anagram :-) ....

Could we have your views on

Could we have your views on Islam, Leon?

My views on Islam are the

My views on Islam are the same as my views on every organized religion.

Started off solid, with good lessons, sound teachings (striking similarities to Christianity, opens the door for questions of a common origination in an older belief system)

Taken over, corrupted, and abused by dangerous wackos who claim to be acting in faith, but are really acting out of self-interest.

 

 Much akin to the Leftist

 Much akin to the Leftist Commies of the DNC, then?

P.S.  There are about a million Islamofascists right here, right now.

Muhammad was a pervert.

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

Kathleen, P.S.  There

Kathleen,

P.S.  There are about a million Islamofascists right here, right now.

Interesting stat.  Any link? 

If they're here I sure haven't heard of a peep from them. 

I ask you the same things,

I ask you the same things, Leon. Where is your evidence that backs up all of your claims? Or is your "enlightened" word of mouth (so to speak) all we need?

"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." -Matthew 7:20

Well-documented in any

Well-documented in any basic history of the Mormons.

Well-documented by the freaky Mormon communes/compounds that still exist, still rape children, still inbreed, and still force women into lives of sexual slavery.

When was Warren Jeffs arrested again?  How many followers did he have?

Leon you are way off base

Jeffs is not a member of the LDS faith.  He is the member of a faith trying to base its tenets in the LDS faith but is not a member of the Church.  The LDS Church does not pratice and will not support people like Jeffs.

GET IT STRAIGHT!!!

“Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay its price.”    Sun Tzu

why are you surprised Air Force?

This is how liberals see religion: one God-botherer is just like all the rest, maybe with a few superficial disagreements.

Al Qaeda is not "true Islam" but Warren Jeffs is true LDS and the Colorado shooter is true evangelical. We politely boycott a movie - and that makes us equal to stoning women for adultery.

candance

I think the only time I think liberals will be happy is in a Godless socialist society were the Government gives us everything they think we need.

Oh wait that was already tried by Russia and look what happened.

What gets me is without any research, by directly talking to a member of a faith.  I am not going to learn what a particular tenets of a sect without talking to a member of that sect.  Jeffs and his followers don’t even claim to be any part of the LDS Church based out of Salt Lake.  Jeffs claims to be the living Prophet of God. 

Now by his fruits we know him.  That is the same with any other faith.    

“Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay its price.”    Sun Tzu

 

my theory

The way I look at it Air Force, it's not that they want to do away with all religion. Really they just want to do away with Judeo-Christian religions.

Islam is given a pass, Buddhism is celebrated as enlightening, Wicca is respected - but those darn Jews and Christians are bad. When you look at every position American liberals take, it boils down to being opposite of the Bible.

Someone else on here has said it before and I agree: you look at Africa, Asia, Russia, etc...poverty and oppresion are the natural state of man kind while America and Western Europe are the exception to the rule. A society that promotes belief in God ends up better off.

Candance

You have to get rid of Christians in order to bring in the stuff the socialist ( I have quit calling them libs) want to bring in.  

By the way, it is 80 degrees here in eastern NC with a SW breeze. Jealous?

"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.” General George S. Patton.

ha ha rick

It's 20 degrees with piles of snow in Minnetonka.

 

Jesus asked Peter 'why do

Jesus asked Peter 'why do you fear?'

Christians have nothing to fear:)

as Bush so aptly stated 'bring em on!' 

Nothing has changed, Candance!

Christ went around teaching love, healing people, giving sound advice on how to prosper and have a good earthly life and what did they do?? They killed Him. What's that old saying..the more things change the more they stay the same.....

This kind of thing never happens, but...

The ultimate irony would be if a random Islamic nutcase attacked O'Donnell or his family for the act of saying that he's scared to say bad things about Islam (which is, in effect, saying a bad thing about Islam, right?). Poetic justice is SO damn rare these days...
JMR

Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul. (All purpose anti-slander-link, sadly-needed these days...)

It also shows cowardice,

It also shows cowardice, which radical Muslims, to their credit, generally have contempt for.

Radical Muslims may have

Radical Muslims may have contempt for cowardice, but they practice it a lot. Attacking unarmed men, women, and children is cowardice. But, they've learned if they attack soldiers, they generally get their *ss handed to them without killing any of the infidels to be their slaves in paradise.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan

Oh, come on, O'Donnell

Grow some balls, already.  Have at it.  Go ahead and tell us what you think about Islam ...

Seems some women got more of a "set" than you'll ever hope to have, you punk.

 

Words that risk death

Dec. 11, 2007 12:00 AM

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/1211tue1-11.html

 

I triple dog dare ya!

I triple dog dare


I triple dog dare ya!
-drillanwr

Whoa!!! Skipping over the "double-dare" and going right to the big one...the "triple-dog dare"!!!!

It's that time of year!! LOL

mb, heh! -

Some people you just don't waste time with thrust and parry. 

Go straight for the jugular ... use the coup de grace and walk away ... Like Indiana Jones with the Arab swordsman.

How Sad!

The guy who wrote that movie was killed by a drunk ILLEGAL ALIEN in a car crash! Another chat for another day..

YOU ARE AN INFIDEL !!!!!!!!!!

It is a fact not speculation that Islam is a terrorist religion. The so called "great prophet" moohamhead said that Islam will be put to the earth by the point of a sword, and went on to further state that all non believers are infidels. Even a simple cartoon causes riots and outrage because it may offend the terrorist followers of Islam. Still not convinced, go to an Islamic country and just simply mention that you are a Christian. Islamic States have a zero tolerance policy and you will be lucky to survive. Yet here in the U.S.A all must kiss the buttocks of this world domination cult. Look at the school teacher that made a simple mistake by naming a teddy bear Moohamhead, the Islamic followers wanted her killed on the spot. I have the same amount of tolerance Islam shows the rest of the World zero. All followers of this cult should be exicuted anytime they use the word infidel.