On Wednesday’s Anderson Cooper 360 program, CNN’s Christiane Amanpour and Jeffrey Toobin voiced their skepticism about the hundreds of Tea Party protests across the U.S., with Toobin stating how it was “disturbing” that there was a “edge of anger at the government” at the rallies. He continued, “There is a real -- a real hostility that is not just politics as usual among some of these people....I think it’s indicative of trying to tap into an anger that’s beyond rationality on a part of a small group of these people.” Amanpour also asked if the protesters were “really out of step with the majority of Americans.”
Amanpour, filing in for host Anderson Cooper, began the segment just after the beginning of the 10 pm Eastern hour of the CNN program. Before turning to Toobin, she brought on the network’s senior political analyst David Gergen and asked him a cynical question about the Tea Parties: “David -- is this, David, a grassroots movement, or is it something just whipped up for this moment?” Gergen began with an admission: “Well, Christiane, at first, I must confess, I did not take these very seriously. But they do seem to have gained traction in the last couple of weeks. And they have -- I think they are giving expression to what is a groundswell of a vocal minority, who are increasingly alienated and opposed to what the president is proposing -- is putting forward, the agenda he’s advancing.”
The analyst continued with a prediction about the future of the Tea Party movement: “I don’t think this is mostly about taxes. I think it’s about the general direction of bigger deficits that may lead to more taxes and more government....Could it grow bigger? Of course, it’s going -- it is going to grow bigger, because, one day, you know what? The Obama administration is probably going to have to propose higher taxes. It’s the only way you can close these deficits.”
Amanpour made a more subdued version of her colleague Susan Roesgen’s point about the Obama tax reductions to Toobin: “So, David is talking about higher taxes potentially, and that this is probably not all about taxes. But it does come at a time, right now, when President Obama has actually slashed taxes. What are they doing?”
The senior legal analyst thought it was “perfectly legitimate” that the majority of the Tea Party protesters were “clearly very angry about bailing out these big companies -- too much regulation, too much Washington.” But he then brought in the specter of the “anger that’s beyond rationality.” As an example, he cited Texas Governor Rick Perry’s light crack about secession at an Austin, Texas Tea Party.
TOOBIN: What’s disturbing about some of these protests and some of the people at these protests is this edge of anger at the government. There is a real -- a real hostility that is not just politics as usual among some of these people. You have the governor of Texas, Rick Perry, today suggesting that secession might be an option.AMANPOUR: And how real is that?
TOOBIN: Well, I mean, it’s fantasy. We fought a civil war about that. And -- but I think it’s indicative of trying to tap into an anger that’s beyond rationality on a part of a small group of these people.
Near the end of the segment, the substitute anchor asked Gergen, “Are these protesters really out of step with the majority of Americans? We just saw...that 62 percent of the people here approve of the president’s handling of the economy, and that Americans rate taxes, incredibly at, the very bottom of the most important economic issues right now.” The analyst was reluctant to write off the protests:
GERGEN: These protesters do represent a minority, but it is not a tiny minority....About a quarter to 30 percent of Republicans approve of what President Obama is doing, which is pretty high in some ways, but, nonetheless, about two-thirds to three-quarters of Republicans don’t. So, you’re talking about a -- a significant piece of the population that is having -- you know, is -- is in some opposition. I don’t think that’s a dismissible group.
I -- to go back to Jeff Toobin’s point, which I think is right, there -- this is a piece, though, of a lot of anger that’s free-flowing in society. Some people are angry at the government. There are a lot of people out there, as Jeffrey knows, who are angry at Wall Street. You know, so, there is -- in this kind of -- these hard times, resentments do grow....So, this is not totally unusual. I think that President Obama is going to have to just sort of -- this is going to be just part of the landscape. That does not mean he does not have a significant majority behind him. He still does. He has well over 60 percent. And, very importantly for him, it’s not just the great majority of Democrats who are supporting him. Right now, a significant majority of independents are supporting him, well over 60 percent.
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:23 ET by Indiana Joe"David -- is this, David, a grassroots movement, or is it something just whipped up for this moment?”
It's called community organizing, Christiane. Geez, get a clue, willya?
What, we don't only have to put up with govenmental BS, we have to LOVE IT, too?
"Thank you, sir, may I have another?"
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."-John Adams
CNN is out of touch and their numbers show it
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:29 ET by chaosmongerI went to a Tea Party in Wichita yesterday. They said there were way more people there than they had hoped. If they do another batch on July 4th when people aren't working, I wonder how big it will be then.
Better get used to this thing until the next election. If things go well and the balance of power is tipped in 2010, that will be the only time the media will consider these "serious." events. Until then, it will only be painted as trivial.
What I don't find as trivial is how that reporter from CNN grilled a citizen about their views on live TV and then says the Tea Party is the one full of hate. I didn't see hate in Wichita, just a lot of people not happy with scope of govt.
If there are more Tea Parties on July 4th, I will be there as well.
I think that when the
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:57 ET by Indiana JoeI think that when the networks decide the tea parties are no longer "trivial," they will decide they are "dangerous," or maybe "rebellious." That's when they'll consider them "serious."
Re-birth of the Sedition Act, anyone?
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."-John Adams
I question CNN's rationality
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:33 ET by c5thenSince when is it rational for a 24 hour news organization to argue with the people who are assembling and petitioning their government for redress of greivances? Since when is it the 'job' of a news orginazation to independantly decide that a point of view being expressed by a sizable portion of the population is not valid and "insignificant"?
Of course if the organization is a partisan liberal organization who is actively trying to disseminate the viewpoint of only one side of the political spectrum, it makes perfect sense.
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
www.loyaltoliberty.com
Of course it's rational!
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:56 ET by motherbeltOf course it's rational! They have an obligation to set those people straight! Just as Christiane is 100% right when she says the protestors are "out of step."
Well, yeah, Christianne, they're "out of step" with you and your friends, which is what really matters, right?
Don't forget, CNN's Roland Martin also asked "Who's out of step here?" of the Catholics who opposed Notre Dame's invitation to President Obama.
Anyone who doesn't fall in with their liberal worldview is "out of step."
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
"Anyone who doesn't fall in
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 17:56 ET by Indiana Joe"Anyone who doesn't fall in with their liberal worldview is 'out of step.'"
Isn't being "out of step" also called diversity? ;^D
I thought that's what the left wanted!
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."-John Adams
Diversity in all things
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 18:40 ET by motherbeltDiversity in all things except opinion!
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
yes we are
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:34 ET by wizardjrOut of step, that is. We believe in the individual not a lock-step thug-ocracy run by a bunch of elitist limosine liberals in Washington.
"Out of step..." Hell yes! I resemble that.
out of step
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:34 ET by richbHey CNN, the tea party people aren't the ones out of step! The tea party is the majority!
Our blood is boiling out
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:42 ET by bigtimerOur blood is boiling out here....and you leftist simpletons with an agenda don't even see what is right in front of your Obama lovin' smirking faces...
You will...
This is just the beginning.
Wait and watch.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
When left wing crank
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:45 ET by celatorWhen left wing crank Amanpour puts all that energy and flopsweat into mocking the Tea Party participants with such derision, then you know for sure the Obamatrons are terrified of the rise of angry citizens toward his policies.
They know we've got their number and we are going to fight their little socialist revolution.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Armpitpour is
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:46 ET by Delsaa European uppity bitch. She and her hubby Rubin live in FRANCE!
She has her nose higher than SOBama's nose and should have nose bleeds!
Anyone that listens to her or her upper crust kind should get out of the way and stop pretending they love our country or understand it!
My sister who lives near DC went to the T.E.A. Party. She has NEVER protested ANYTHING in her life. Wrote a letter? Yep! but Go to a Protest?
NEVER, EVER, NEVER!
And
SHE could NOT be more INSTEP!
I'm SO tired of saying this, but...
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:50 ET by Massage_Master07THEY JUST DON'T FREAKIN' GET IT!!! This was NOT about left or right. This was about RIGHT and WRONG. It is WRONG for the government, REGARDLESS of who's in power at the time, to basically PISS AWAY America's future for POWER in the present. The SAME people that got us into this mess to begin with NOW "think" they can get us out of it? And HOW do they "think" that can be done? Why by more spending and DEBT. THAT is how we got into this mess to begin with. Of course, with the liberals, if it's conservatives spending, then it's ok to protest and cause property damage. However if liberals spend, MORE in the first 60 days of the DUHbama Administration than in HISTORY of the country, then THAT'S ok, and HOW DARE ANYONE say anything against the COMMUNIST IN THIEF and the DEN OF THIEVES on Capital Hill known as congress.
The Tea Parties were in protest of BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES spending just for the sake of spending, whether we have the money or NOT!!! Don't the alphabet "news" and politicians get that? Obviously SOME of the conservatives do, but it seems that NON of the liberals do. Talking about "Being out of Step", as the headline above says. FREAKIN' MORONS!!!!
M_M07,
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 18:06 ET by Indiana JoeYou're right that this was theoretically "non-partisan." I hate wasteful spending no matter who is doing it. But, as you yourself point out, Obama has spent more so far than in the entire US history. So, I think these "tea parties" were mainly directed at the current administration's policies. Those policies, at the least, were the proverbial straw... last, or camel-back-breaking, take your pick.
If they were partisan, I would say that partisanship kept liberals who secretly agree from attending. Such is the nature of Obama-love.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."-John Adams
What do you mean by "theoritically"?
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 23:23 ET by mvfreemanThey were non-partisan in friggin practice.
Conservative does not automatically mean Republican party members.
The chairman of the RNC wanted to speak at a rally and they said NO!
There's good news and bad news in this phenomenon for establishment
politicians. The good news for Republicans is that, while the
Republican Party flounders in its response to the Obama presidency and
its programs, millions of Americans are getting organized on their own.
The bad news is that those Americans, despite their opposition to
President Obama's policies, aren't especially friendly to the GOP. When
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele asked to speak at
the Chicago tea party, his request was politely refused by the
organizers: "With regards to stage time, we respectfully must inform
Chairman Steele that RNC officials are welcome to participate in the
rally itself, but we prefer to limit stage time to those who are not
elected officials, both in Government as well as political parties.
This is an opportunity for Americans to speak, and elected officials to
listen, not the other way around."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123975867505519363.html
Why would anyone feel afraid to attend? There were no invitations handed out.
Do people have their politics tattooed on their foreheads?
http://www.bobkrumm.com/blog/?p=2247
Out of Step? That would
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:50 ET by jdhawkOut of Step? That would be CNN - look at its most recent viewership stats. There in the toilet; Fox News - soaring.
The drool-by media - putting themselves out of business one left wing propaganda piece at a time . . .
Unreal
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:54 ET by mvfreemanI suppose it is easier to just assume and speculate rather than doing some actual reporting.
But then folks would see that the people at the rallies aren't the wackos these idiots are trying to make them out to be.
So they just conveniently skip the actual work they should be doing and go right to the talking points.
Out of Step Eh?
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:56 ET by deerjerkydaveI'd say that CNN is "out of step" considering that they have now fallen behind MSNBC in their ratings! Nobody believes that they're relevant anymore.
Fox News of course continues to get more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined.
Glenn Beck made sure
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 18:39 ET by ThisnThatGlenn Beck made sure everybody knew that, too, on his 5:00pm show today.
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
How are your ratings there, CNN?
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 16:58 ET by SlyrrIf Obama and his communist friends would LEAVE American taxpayer money
in their paychecks, they wouldn't need to 'give it back' later with
their stupid bailouts.
The only reason for them to take it in the first place is so they
can gorge themselves on our money, and then pretend that they're being
'generous' by giving back whatever crumbs are leftover after their
communist feast.
It's not 'generosity' when a thief decides to give back a penny
after plundering your life savings. This was never the government's
money in the first place. The government can't rub two pennies
together until after they STEAL it through the plundering sickle of
taxation.
BTW: Seen the ratings? You CNN types just keep digging your own graves. You'd better hope that Obama communizes the media just like he's communized everything else - because otherwise, you'll soon be buried in the dung heap of media history.
Ah, how the mighty have fallen. THIS is the network that people used to respect? It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic....
Unavoidable
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 17:00 ET by AgentAmericanThe coverage, whatever the spin, was unavoidable.
It's also apparent that CNN and MSNBC have Fox Derrangement Syndrome, and are aware of the ratings Fox enjoyed yesterday.
Yesterday is the beginning of the end of the liberal era. Seriously. The sleeping giant is not only awake, but standing up and dusting himself off.
2010: A GOP Hill
The most anti-gov't/anti-authority people
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 17:11 ET by mastersofdeceitThe most anti-gov't/anti-authority people I have met/heard of have come from the left. Mostly in my travels as a punk rocker since 1980. See TSOL's "Abolish Government", "Property is Theft" or Wasted Youth's "F Authority" plus many others.
Ironically, TSOL's singer would later run for governor of California.
And then are the comments from a Dem Congresswoman
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 17:22 ET by Prester JohnTea parties 'despicable'
Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) blasted "tea party" protests yesterday, labeling the activities "despicable" and shameful."
"The ‘tea parties’ being held today by groups of right-wing activists, and fueled by FOX News Channel, are an effort to mislead the public about the Obama economic plan that cuts taxes for 95 percent of Americans and creates 3.5 million jobs," Schakowsky said in a statement.
"It’s despicable that right-wing Republicans would attempt to cheapen a significant, honorable moment of American history with a shameful political stunt," she added. "Not a single American household or business will be taxed at a higher rate this year. Made to look like a grassroots uprising, this is an Obama bashing party promoted by corporate interests, as well as Republican lobbyists and politicians.”
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/04/16/schakowsky-tea-parties-despicable/
UPDATE: Her husband is a crook.
Congresswoman's husband pleads guilty to two felonies
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-08-31-congresswoman-husband_x.htm
a lie dressed up in a half truth...
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 17:50 ET by wizardjr"Not a single American household or business will be taxed at a higher rate this year. ..."
Yes dipstick, but next year (2010) America will suffer the greatest tax increase in its history. Between the new taxes and increased rates added to the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, your wallet will be emptied at a disgraceful rate to fuel their vote buying and payoffs.
Welcome to the USSA.
Amanpour excuse for a journalist
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 17:15 ET by slickwillie2001Amanpour is the last person I want to hear from on this or anything. I'm surprised she didn't blame the tea parties on 'The Juice'.
"...President Obama has
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 17:15 ET by the struggler"...President Obama has slashed taxes."
C'mon,..."slashed"...really
Picture Obama in a Zorra mask hacking up Tax receipts for the good of all humanity.
It's a circus.
Liberals FEAR the Tea Parties!
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 17:25 ET by jefflebowskiLiberals know that the Americans who have never protested anything are now angry and committed to electing conservatives. Not only at the Federal level but State and local levels as well!
After our successful turnout in Dallas last night, we are fast at work organizing and spreading the word! You can already see the crowds from the Dallas Tax Day Tea Party on Youtube. Viva la teaparty!
Angry White Dude
www.angrywhitedude.com
This is all so comical
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 17:40 ET by MidAmericaThis is all so comical in it's own way. The 'media' is upset at 'news'. I thought they were trained dispassionate observers. Then they try to comfort themselves by quoting their bogus polls that they say show these protests are just a fringe minority. Funny how when George Bush was President all it took was one person standing on a street corner with a sign protesting Bush and that was reported as a someone who represented the 'anger' in the nation.
moral equivelency (sp?)
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 17:59 ET by wizardjrUp here in the Peoples Republic of Minnesota we had a grand rally on the steps of the Capitol. The local paper, The Red Star And Buffoons, posted a video that gave equal weight and time to a dozen or so 'tax the rich' morons who came out earlier in the day juxtaposed with the more than 4,000+ TEA protesters. And they still don't get why they're in bankruptcy... oh my... what a bunch of maroons.
Well, Amanpour may have a point.
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 18:05 ET by Missouri Conservative260,000 people scattered across the country isn't that much. The A.N.S.W.E.R. loons got over 300,000 to protest the Iraq War and left-wing immigration proponents got millions to march in support of amnesty in 2006. Even if we're generous and say the tea parties drew 300,000, it still isn't much.
I remain unconvinced that the political dynamics have shifted against Obama just yet.
"women and minorities hardest hit"
I think there may be several factors at work here...
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 18:44 ET by Indiana JoeFor instance, I'm not in a position to drive to Chicago, which is the nearest place to me I would expect a "tea-party" to have been held. Also, I would think a lot of "kindred spirits" just plain had to work today. I think that could be less of a wide-spread problem for a lot of the leftist groups. And who knows how many small towns held "little tea-parties," that wouldn't draw national attention?
I wouldn't say the dynamics have shifted, but I think they probably are shifting.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."-John Adams
millions in support of amnesty
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 19:15 ET by UndercoverConservativeand only 11 didn't show up for work.
Sadly that's what family folk, taxpayers, etc were doing. Protest is for college kids and others supported by someone else.
"Work harder-millions on welfare depend on you."
That's why the SJ one didn't start till 5pm but I didn't get there till almost 530.
"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is like calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".
"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"
millions in support of amnesty
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 19:16 ET by UndercoverConservativeand only 11 didn't show up for work.
Sadly that's what family folk, taxpayers, etc were doing. Protest is for college kids and others supported by someone else.
"Work harder-millions on welfare depend on you."
That's why the SJ one didn't start till 5pm but I didn't get there till almost 530.
"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is like calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".
"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"
millions in support of amnesty
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 19:17 ET by UndercoverConservativeand only 11 didn't show up for work.
Sadly that's what family folk, taxpayers, etc were doing. Protest is for college kids and others supported by someone else.
"Work harder-millions on welfare depend on you."
That's why the SJ one didn't start till 5pm but I didn't get there till almost 530.
"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is like calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".
"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"
Since Libs love taxes...
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 18:15 ET by delphidudeWhy can't we get a representative to propose a "Patriot Tax" that only applies to TV Journolist. Say 70%, WITHOUT any tax breaks. With the Big 'O' in power and congress that backs him I am sure it will pass without any debate or actual reading of it.
I am serious about this. IF anyone knows how to get in touch with a rep, try to convince this that this has to be done NOW and that it cant wait. it cant be read or debated on. NOW...
Out of touch???
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 18:18 ET by retroconThese folks are running scared! Their ratings are falling, they've hired staffs of commentators and anchors who passed from their liberal arts universities straight into internships and jobs with the MSM. Many probably haven't talked with a mainstream American, since their childhood, unless it was at the other end of a microphone.
They call us out of touch?!?!
I'm one of those average mainstream Americans who believes in this country, earns middle income wages, and have never, until yesterday, joined an open protest. They are afraid because fewer of us are watching the alphabet soups of the MSM. We are not buying the propoganda sheets that they call the Times or Tribunes or Chronicles. We are not the handful of hate-mongers at moveon.org or the kos.
We are the machine that keeps this country safe, free, and prosperous. We are the best and brightest, those who invent and produce in business, not those who postulate and proselytize in academia. We are those who stand and fight for our freedoms, not those who succumb to evil and excuse it as product of our success.
We've been teabagged (sorry) in our sleep just one too many times by our elected elite (on both sides). They are laughing loudly, but they will not laugh for long.
Oh, preaching to the choir... sorry.
Great rant, retrocon
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 18:57 ET by Indiana JoeAnd I mean that in a good way:
"I'm one of those average mainstream Americans who believes in this country, earns middle income wages, and have never, until yesterday, joined an open protest. They are afraid because fewer of us are watching the alphabet soups of the MSM. We are not buying the propoganda sheets that they call the Times or Tribunes or Chronicles. We are not the handful of hate-mongers at moveon.org or the kos.
"We are the machine that keeps this country safe, free, and prosperous. We are the best and brightest, those who invent and produce in business, not those who postulate and proselytize in academia. We are those who stand and fight for our freedoms, not those who succumb to evil and excuse it as product of our success."
Pure poetry, and a real keeper. Many kudos.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."-John Adams
Thanks, Joe...
Sat, 04/18/2009 - 11:35 ET by retroconGood words come from stong passion.
I believe that we'll be seeing a lot more good words on the side of conservatism over the next four years!
backwards logic?
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 19:09 ET by UndercoverConservativeDeficits lead to bigger government? IS that BS how they want to justify tax increase?
Or is it simply Bigger government leads to more taxes which somehow still leads to bigger deficits?
Wow. Media thinks because they say something is so, then it is true. Even when it's complete propaganda.
"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is like calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".
"You spend your money anyway you want and respect other's rights to do the same"
They're 'Out of The Soros Loop"
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 19:29 ET by ConScottIf it ain't funded by George Soros..........
MoveOn.org & ACORN.....In your face, all day, respectful coverage when George Soros opens his wallet.
MSM needs to be challenged on this.
The best sign
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 19:54 ET by UpNorthI saw yesterday had a pic of Hugo Chavez, a pic of the Obamunist, with the words, "Even Hugo Chavez couldn't nationalize the banks, take over the auto companies and spend ALL of our money in just 100 days". Thought it expressed what the Tea Parties were all about. And linked the Obamunist with one of his idealogues.
And as I said in another post, my wife got her pay stub today, guess what, no increase in take-home pay. Must be we're some of those evil, rich capitalists.
Oh, really Jeff Toobin?
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 20:23 ET by Scout Finch...with Toobin stating how it was “disturbing” that there was a “edge of
anger at the government” at the rallies. He continued, “There is a real
-- a real hostility that is not just politics as usual among some of
these people....I think it’s indicative of trying to tap into an anger
that’s beyond rationality on a part of a small group of these people.”
Was this your same stance when the rent-a-mob crowd and illegal Mexicans were protesting over immigration?
Was this ever your stance when the protesters were protesting anything against the Bush administration?
Until you guys in the media get your stories straight with each administration, please do all Americans a favor and SHUT UP.
As a matter of fact
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 20:26 ET by Scout FinchWas Jeff Toobin "disturbed" when '68 Democratic convention in Chicago was mobbed with protesters?
What about when the liberals tried to recreate "Chicago '68" last year?
It all depends on whose ox is being gored.
I'd be terribly disappointed if I weren't out of step with...
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 21:00 ET by ThalpyI'd be terribly disappointed if I weren't out of step with this seditious crowd of loons presently in power and many of their fellow travelers. They are making every effort to dismantle what has been a wonderful country. Granted, imperfections abound, but overall, this remains a great country. Much of the anger is properly aimed, but I didn't see any discussion aimed at the press or Republicans. They would really be squirming if they knew what many Americans truly thought of them.
4th Place, CNN
Thu, 04/16/2009 - 23:44 ET by TN Mom“really out of step with the majority of Americans.”
LAST place ratings prove CNN is the one who is really out of step with the majority of Americans.
ALL Tea Party rally photos and videos I saw were of peaceful protest (with some really creative signs!). Unlike the violent protest in Europe last week. Does CNN not watch their own news reports??
Oh, and CNN, it is ok for Americans to be frustrated and angry with our government and to march in the streets to let our distain be public. This is not Cuba!!!!!!!!!!!
Tea Party video from Texas
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 00:08 ET by RousseHere's some video shot by the San Marcos Record (Texas) of a really hostile tea party on the Hays County courthouse square (not)
http://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/multimedia
Rouse... OMG! Thank
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 00:08 ET by bigtimerRouse...
OMG!
Thank YOU! ;-)
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
did they think the same of
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 00:37 ET by GeronLdid they think the same of liberal protests for the last 8 years? of course not.
Listen up commies...
we will always be out of step to your GOOSE STEPS
Good Riddance, Texas
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 05:01 ET by williams411It's very "pro-american" of the governor of texas, glenn beck, sean hannity and faux news to support the state of texas seperating themselves from the union lol. Yep, they love america so much that they want to seperate all ties with it. I would give anything to see texas actually secede...see how well they do on their own. I also found it hilarious that the people at the tea bagging party in texas were chanting "USA" right after they had cheered the ides of seceding lol.
Trix are for kids, fox is for fools.
TROLL ALERT!
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 05:05 ET by Sergeant ROCKHow 'bout a Nice Cup of Shut the Hell Up?
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
The Truth Hurts
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 05:10 ET by williams411I know facts are confusing for conservatives...but, sometimes you gotta know the facts. The fact is that faux news supports secession. Secession is unconstitutional, by the way.
Trix are for kids, fox is for fools.
Yup.....The Truth Does Hurt Libs
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 06:49 ET by ConScottSince neither Gov. Perry or any FOX host or reporter has stated that Texas should secede, it is clear that you and your ilk simply don't like any sort of discussion or speculation surrounding the potential outcome of trampling on the 10th Amendment.
Clearly, the left has no understandng that we are a Federal Republic, that states have their own rights as protected by the 10th Amendment. And there is a major lack of understanding of Texas and the unique way in which they obtained statehood.
So why don't you provide us all with your special insight and how it is "unconstitutional" for various states such as Texas, to reaffirm the rights already granted to them?
Really?
Sun, 04/19/2009 - 05:44 ET by williams411ConScott Wrote: "Since neither Gov. Perry or any FOX host or reporter has stated that Texas should secede, it is clear that you and your ilk simply don't like any sort of discussion or speculation surrounding the potential outcome of trampling on the 10th Amendment."
Governor Perry: "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that."
Glenn Beck: "If this country starts to spiral out of control and, you know, and Mexico melts down or whatever, if it really starts to spiral out of control, Americans will, they just, they won't stand for it. There will be parts of the country that will rise up. And they said, where's that going to come from? And I said Texas, it's going to come from Texas."
"I don't mind having that lone star on my flag. I really don't mind it."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTl7A_KY0A4
Sean Hannity: "Governor Perry was talking about how a state might just get so fed up with the federal government that they'll say 'enough is enough, we're outta here'...I'm with Perry on this one"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN8cV5SxCVA&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Enewshounds%2Eus%2F2009%2F04%2F17%2Fgreat%5Famerican%5Fsean%5Fhannity%5Fsupports%5Fthreat%5Fof%5Fsecession%2Ephp&feature=player_embedded
As far as the 10th amendment goes, I believe that was settled with something called the civil war. From my understanding, it didn't work out so well for the states that wanted to secede.
Of course it is unconstitutional
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 06:55 ET by freecitizenSecession is unconstitutional? Brilliant. Secession is by its nature a rejection of the authority of the constitution and the government it authorizes. So of course it is unconstitutional. It is binding to those who are committed to it. By seceding you are no longer committed to it, so being "unconstitutional" is irrelevent. Any seceding group would have to create their own new constitution.
I am in no way supporting secession. I think we are in it together through thick and thin, like it or not. But rejecting this constitution's authority is not the same as rejecting its principles. In fact, any who entertain the thought of secession these days are usually great believers in the constitution but believe that our current government has exceeded constitutional bounds and disregarded its fundamental concepts.
Liberal: remove all that's Right, and this is what's Left.
Secession is unconstitutional
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 07:58 ET by SickofLibsHe must be a constitutional scholar like his Messiah.
Also, betcha didn't know this: "Crime is against the law."
williams411 ~ aka jag-off asaurus alert lol
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 12:19 ET by pahuberwilliams411 ~ This is his second dump I found in our living room. Who brought this stray home?
; )
The Constitution
Sun, 04/19/2009 - 04:49 ET by williams411SickofLibs Wrote: "He must be a constitutional scholar like his Messiah."
At least my president has read the constitution, unlike dubya who probably wouldn't have been able to pronounce the word "constitution".
Trix are for kids, fox if for fools
W411, constitution of neg liberties
Sun, 04/19/2009 - 06:23 ET by AgnosticUnfortunately those who believe in human state to be one of dependence, such as President Obama has implied by both word and action, must interpret the constitution from the view point of limitations instead of possibilities for the citizenry. In short Obama, through his belief of the Constitution being written via the ideas of negative liberties, views the law of our nation as a restriction on the citizens and an opportunity for the government to lead (a cynical view would see this as an opportunity to control). While it is my belief is document designed to limit the power of the government in order to allow the citizens the freedom to lead their own lives and make what opportunity they afforded by skill, hard work and sometimes bit of luck.
I won’t defend the actions of President Bush more than to say that he obviously did not believe the constitution applied to non-citizens, unless they were from south of the border, and governed accordingly.
Hate to post and run by I'm off to work!
A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections
I see what you're saying
Mon, 04/20/2009 - 02:04 ET by williams411I see what you're saying, agnostic. I don't necessarily agree with what you said, but I see what you're saying. Thank you for at least expalining it in a intelligent and respectful manner...unlike some other posters in here.
Trix are for kids, fox is for fools
We must remember this....
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 06:24 ET by ekslibApril 15, 2003
CNN's Iraqi Cover-Up
CNN's chief news executive EASON JORDAN has admitted that for the past decade the network has systematically covered up stories of Iraqi atrocities.
Reports of murder, torture, and planned assassinations were suppressed in order to maintain CNN's Baghdad bureau.
http://tinyurl.com/k6b9m
So are they saying that
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 06:36 ET by freecitizenSo are they saying that unless you are in the majority, then you don't matter? That your Free Speech rights no longer apply? We won. Shut up!
Even if you believe that the majority currently supports Obey-me that doesn't mean it's permanent. People can change their minds when presented with convincing arguments and facts or through their own experience. That's the beauty of being a human. We can change at any time by mere act of will. That's also why I find it ludicrous when they use demographic trends to try and prove that republicans are a dying breed. As if it's imprinted on our DNA or something. Many, many current conservatives are former Dem voters. People can learn. People can change.
Liberal: remove all that's Right, and this is what's Left.
I would have loved to have seen more
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 08:54 ET by DEHIIIpeople from the conservatives or libertarians denounce some of the racist comments people made at the tea parties via signs.
I also would have loved to have seen conservatives point out that the media only seemed to want to focus on small minority of the tea party folks and not on the majority that are there to protest the bailouts, taxes and deficiets.
The coverage was horrible by most networks. Many tried to limit it to taxes because they had nice poll numbers to show along with that theme to imply there is no concern.
They would,
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 22:34 ET by general companypeople from the conservatives or libertarians denounce some of the racist comments people made at the tea parties via signs.
If their were any,,,,,,, this isnt kite flying weather.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Liberal Bias
Sun, 04/19/2009 - 04:46 ET by williams411general company wrote: "Television is a freak show" - Bernie Goldberg
"Dictionary's have a liberal bias" - Bernie Goldberg
Trix are for kids, fox is for fools
Amanpour also asked if the
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 14:41 ET by sembyAmanpour also asked if the protesters were “really out of step with the majority of Americans.”.....No, No - CNN is!
All protests against the
Fri, 04/17/2009 - 22:23 ET by rbosqueAll protests against the gov't have an "edge of anger", otherwise what whould be the motivation?
I've yet to see a marxist parade that didn't spew some type of vitriol at a conservative position.