Of course the Mexicans are complaining about our guns, our government made it a prerequisite for more aid.

 Anyone who thinks the cartels would pay the exorbitant retail price for semi-autos in the US, smuggle them across what is probably the best guarded of Mexico's borders, then have them converted to full auto is using too much of the Cartels' products.

 These guys are buying directly from crooked governments and or manufacturers, they are getting full auto weapons for peanuts compared to the prices of semi autos in the US.

 If this was such a slam dunk then why has the AG not produced ONE weapon legally purchased in the US and used by the cartel?

 Mexico is a perfect example of what happens when a government disarms it's citizens, it bares their collective throat to criminals and thugs.

 These propagandists and their masters are in many ways more despicable than the Cartels, they at least admit they are criminals.

No Mexico, the violence is in some ways only a symptom:

"Do not pervert justice or show partiality. Do not accept a bribe, for a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise and twists the words of the righteous.  Follow justice and justice alone, so that you may live and possess the land the Lord your God is given you."  Deuteronomy 16: 19-20 (New International Version)

Unfortunately, I fear we are not far behind. 

Gee... How many US made assault rifles are USED to behead someone?  I think the Mexicans are providing their own tools for that particular need....

I'm in Mexico in our RV having a great time. I have a carry permit NOB. BUT, when we cross the border, we heed the huge signs on the US side that say that weapons, ammo, etc., are a HUGE no no. There ain't nothing in this RV that closely relates to guns except for my NRA card which is hidden. The Mexicans are serious. So, I don't see how all this "drizzing down" is happening. Plus, as someone else said, I've yet to see a US gun shop that has AK's. 

 ...the people at CNN demagogue a red herring.

 Someone should tell CNN's management that a fence would fix many of those border problems. I'm just sayin'... 

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I've said it before, build a big wall on the Mexican border to protect those sweet loving Mexican druggies from us evil, gun running gringos. 

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Sorry, but I could care less about Mexico.  They have been a very bad neighbor and should police their own border and criminals rather than let them come to the U.S.

So, they are getting "semi auto" AK's, AR's and such. Then, they buy the "full auto" bolt from whom? They then buy the "sear" from whom to convert this? They then drill the receiver to put in the "selector", which of course is against the law...I can go on, but I of course have an in depth knowledge of firearms, their interworkings and such..and I am just a dumb, redneck country boy..

Here are a couple of articles to the contrary, the first one one from the LA Times no less, that filthy nest of right-wingers: Mexico's Drug War: http://www.latimes.com

And, a blog article with links to Congessional testimony that won't make the old media news because it doesn't fit the liberal narrative: Testimony on Violence in Mexico: http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/03/19

This story should be so easy for a real journalist to punch through; the problem in Mexico is real military weapons, like rocket launchers and fragmentation grenades. Anyone would say, well duh, those weapons aren't sold anywhere in gun stores in the USA, so where are they coming from?

To answer another poster re tracing, the ATF has tried to work with the Mexican authorities to trace weapons, but the Mexicans won't share information. That's because they want to blame the USA for their problems.

Seems to me that it's the illegal drug trade and the billions of dollars at stake that fuels the violence.  Guns are just the tools.

I live in AZ, so I was pretty interested in this topic....

The lamestream media told you:

Combatants in
the escalating Mexican drug-cartel wars are getting 90% of their
firearms from U.S. retail stores and gun shows, according to officials
in the U.S. and Mexican governments.

The Uninvited Ombudsman notes however that:

In
the escalating U.S. media war to vilify firearms and make licensed
dealers and gun shows look like chaotic arms bazaars, increasingly
bogus stories about the U.S. war on some drugs are implying or flat-out
insisting that Mexico's drug armies are equipped by U.S. store owners.

Missing
from the stories are news of 18,000 deserters from the Mexican army in
2008, and the arms they took with them when they left. Underpaid,
poorly fed and run by corrupt officials, the desertions are no
surprise, putting military training, tactics and weaponry into the
hands of ruthless vegetable-product exporters.

Now, in a surprising moment of candor, the LA Times,
facing extreme violence on its state's border, is finally reporting
that attacks by the drug lords on police are using hand grenades,
rocket-propelled grenade launchers, M203 40-millimeter grenade
launchers, fragmentation grenades, anti-tank weapons, dynamite,
high-grade bulk explosives and other military ordnance that cannot
possibly come from U.S. retail shops (though the Times forgot to make that point explicitly). http://tinyurl.com/cq3llv

Whatever
source of supply the criminals are using is a likely source for
everything else they obtain, since they don't need to fake NICS checks
for repeated single purchases and smuggle the goods across the border.
Some of the arms they use are reportedly coming from communist China,
Russia, former soviet blok countries, South Korea, Spain and elsewhere.

"Most
of these weapons are being smuggled from Central American countries or
by sea, eluding U.S. and Mexican monitors who are focused on the
smuggling of semiautomatic and conventional weapons purchased from
dealers in the U.S. border states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and
California," the Times said, though other "news" outlets
failed to pick up on this critical breaking news. Some outlets been
mentioning plans in Congress to go after law-abiding American gun
owners, using Mexico's cartel wars as an excuse.

"The Mexican government said it has seized 2,239 grenades in the last two years" says the LA Times. No apology for implicating licensed American retail stores has been made.

As
recently as March 13, 2009, writers for the AP wrote: "Tighter gun
control and stronger law enforcement in Southwestern states were
recommended Thursday by lawmakers concerned about drug violence in
Mexico possibly spilling across the border," without asking questions,
essentially running the government's prepared pronouncement
unchallenged. http://tinyurl.com/bnpnwo

 I actually do believe that US guns are a big part of the problem, but of course, the MSM will not tell you the flip side. I think that the US guns that are in play have been sold to the cartels by Mexican gov't & police officials who are on the take. The Mexicans will not provide id numbers for guns seized in raids. I gotta believe that is a big reason.

I would never expect the likes of CNN, MSNBC, NYSlimes, of the rest of the MSM to ever tell the whole story about ANYTHING important.

"The Fairness Doctrine = Jim Crow laws for Conservatives".  Jim Quinn from "Quinn & Rose"