CNN has highlighted the Media Matters-driven spin on Bill O’Reilly’s race remarks on his radio program since the beginning of the week, and has specifically used "Out in the Open" program, hosted by Rick Sanchez, to carry the water on the subject Monday through Friday of last week.
"Out in the Open" first did a segment on the O’Reilly issue on Monday, at the bottom of the 8 pm Eastern hour. Sanchez played select audio clips from O’Reilly’s radio show, outside of the greater context of the entire hour that O’Reilly discussed race. He also read some of the quotes from a transcript of the radio broadcast. CNN contributor and O’Reilly critic Roland Martin appeared unopposed during the segment, which lasted about six minutes. During the segment, Martin, in his attack on O’Reilly, played-up the parts from O’Reilly’s remarks that both Media Matters and Sanchez chose to highlight.
A partial transcript of the conversation between Sanchez and Martin on Monday’s "Out in the Open:"
SANCHEZ: What's wrong with a white guy making social commentary about other people's race, which is what he seems to be doing, here.
MARTIN: The issue is not social commentary. The issue is: how stupid can you be? The point about the restaurant is offensive, because here's what he says: 'I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference.' Why couldn't you? It's a restaurant. People sit down. They eat. What's the big deal about that?
SANCHEZ: So, what are you saying? You're saying the fact that he was shocked by the fact that African-Americans were no different than white people...
MARTIN: Right. Right.
SANCHEZ: Shows what? What are you trying to say?
MARTIN: What it shows that he probably lives in a very isolated world. I mean, 'I couldn't get over the difference,' over the fact that somehow they're sitting there, eating. No one's cursing, saying bring me my tea. What does that say? Now, does that mean that his opinion of African-American restaurants has been formed by someone else? He didn't say there is no difference. Yeah, we get that. But, why couldn't you get over that fact? What's the big deal?
On Tuesday’s "Out in the Open," the term "subtle racism" entered in the discussion of O’Reilly’s remarks. A caption included with a file video played at the very beginning of the program read "Subtle Racism?" Sanchez replayed the most "damning" of the sound bytes, and hosted a debate between Project 21's Mychal Massie and former Clinton advisor Suzan Johnson Cook. Johnson Cook reenforced Roland Martin’s sentiments from the previous night, though with this segment, Massie offered an opposing view.
A partial transcript of the segment from Tuesday’s "Out in the Open:"
RICK SANCHEZ: Is it possible, is it possible, that African-Americans are simply being too sensitive on this issue and others like it?
SUZAN JOHNSON COOK: Not at all. I'm an African-American who teamed up with no one. My eyebrows did raise as well.
SANCHEZ: Why? Explain what it is about what he says that makes you as an African-American feel insulted.
JOHNSON COOK: It was ignorant. It was insulting. It was inappropriate. Number one, the question is, why did it take him all this time to even get to our culture? He's a man that influences millions of people....
SANCHEZ: ...Mychal Massie, your turn to talk about this. And, again, this is not a hammer over the head. He didn't use the N-word. He didn't use a term like Imus used. But he said something that is being taken by some African-Americans as a subtle racist insult. You respond.
MYCHAL MASSIE, PROJECT 21: ...Let me just say quickly that Bill O'Reilly was taken out of context. And far be it for me to defend Bill. He certainly doesn't need myself or Project 21 to defend him. But the full statement -- and I'm pulling these -- part of the sentence that was left out stated, 'And we went into Sylvia's, a very famous restaurant in Harlem. I had a great time. And all the people up there were tremendously respectful. They all watch "The Factor."'
SANCHEZ: ...I need to ask you. You say we should give him a pass because he says, had a great time and all the people up there are tremendously respectful before he says, I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. You say, by saying those niceties, then that excuses the rest of it?
MASSIE: No, that's not what I said at all.
SANCHEZ: Then what are you saying?
MASSIE: What I said was, we need to articulate his entire quote. The bottom line is, Rick, and to your guest, the black community does have an image problem. Like it or not, there is a very legitimate image problem in the black community. And we need look no further to see that than too see that with the NAACP, just a few years ago, prepared to give an Image Award, which has to go with good work and community involvement, et cetera..
JOHNSON COOK: The problem is that...
(CROSSTALK)
SANCHEZ: Mychal, go ahead. Take 10 seconds and finish your statement, so she can get in.
MASSIE: R. Kelly was -- they attempted to present with an Image Award. At the same time, R. Kelly was being charged for allegedly pedophilia and so forth...
SANCHEZ: ...The point that Mychal's making is, look, if an African-American said something like this, you would give him a pass. You're going after Bill O'Reilly because he's a big target.
JOHNSON COOK: Bill O'Reilly doesn't get a pass. He's not African-American. The problem with our guest is that he takes the attention off of Bill O'Reilly, puts it on our community. I think they are two different issues. Bill O'Reilly said something that was out of context -- that was inappropriate. Deal with Bill O'Reilly. Don't deal with the NAACP on this.
It took until Wednesday’s "Out in the Open" for Sanchez to play more extensive sound bites from O’Reilly’s radio program which provided some of the context of the earlier sound bites. There were a total of three segments on the O’Reilly "affair" on Wednesday’s broadcast. In the first, Sanchez played the sound bites. In the second, he went to Sylvia’s Restaurant in Harlem, the restaurant in question in O’Reilly’s remarks, to interview the granddaughter of Sylvia on what she thought of the whole "controversy." In the third, he played clips of interviews he took of some of the patrons at Sylvia’s, and brought back on Mychal Massie for another debate, this time with Boyce Watkins of "Juan Williams is a ‘happy Negro’" fame. Watkins again repeated this labeling of Williams, and Sanchez made his first hint that O’Reilly should apologize for his remarks.
A partial transcript from Wednesday’s "Out in the Open:"
MASSIE: ...Where is the outcry when Joe Biden made his comments about Barack Obama as being intelligent and well-spoken and so forth?
(CROSSTALK)
WATKINS: I was part of that outcry, absolutely. When he congratulated Obama for being articulate and clean, that was a racist statement.
SANCHEZ: Let me just step in here for a minute.... Gentlemen, let me just step in here for a minute, because that was covered extensively here on CNN and on this program.
WATKINS: Yes, it was.
SANCHEZ: And Biden apologized for it, very different from the tack that Mr. O'Reilly is taking, just to throw that in as a program note here. Back to you, Boyce.
WATKINS: Yes. You're absolutely right. And the fact of the matter is that, when Bill O'Reilly gets Juan Williams, the ‘eternal happy Negro,’ on his show to congratulate him on his racism, that's like Hugh Hefner getting a stripper to come on the show and tell him that he's not a sexist.
On Thursday and Friday’s "Out in the Open," Sanchez called on O’Reilly to apologize. From Thursday’s broadcast:
SANCHEZ: Here's what surprises me about this. If people are offended by something that you have said, why not just say, ‘I apologize’ to those who were offended and just move on. Instead, after I called O'Reilly to get his response before we aired our report, he lambasted me. He screamed at me. He demeaned me for even considering doing a story about him. Why not just apologize, Bill, and then just move on? Admit it's a stupid thing to say and just be done with it? Because racist or not, intentional or not, one thing is indisputable. It was a stupid thing to say.
Following on Mychal Massie’s repeat appearances, Sanchez invited Boyce Watkins back on Thursday to comment on the "controversy," as well as author Tim Wise, the first white guest on "Out in the Open" on to discuss O’Reilly. In this case however, instead of a critic and a defender debating over O’Reilly, both were critics of O’Reilly. Wise accused O’Reilly of "backpedaling," and Watkins not only accused O’Reilly of racism but also his radio listeners.
TIM WISE: ...When he [O’Reilly] says ‘I was shocked,’ he didn't say my listeners might be shocked. He didn't say lots of white people might be surprised to learn that Sylvia's is not a place where people cuss. He said, ‘I was stunned. I was shocked.’ Now, he's trying to backpedal. But I think the bigger point here, and it's important to point this out, is that white Americans, and I'm one of them, and I talk to white folks a lot, they're all around round me -- white folks don't know black reality. White folks -- 80 percent or more of white Americans live in communities where there are almost no people of color around. So, we live in this bubble of unreality. We really need to get out more, I think, is what this suggests.
SANCHEZ: Is it important, Boyce, that Bill O'Reilly used a personal pronoun when he made that explanation? He used the word ‘I.’ He didn't say ‘others.’
WATKINS: Yeah, that's the fundamental question, typically. Yeah, he's usually asking me why are there so many single mothers, why are they getting arrested, you know, what's wrong with you people. And that's just racist rhetoric and the fact that he has so many followers, so many viewers, I never get more hate mail than when I'm on a Fox show. That really says a lot about him, it says a lot about his audience, and it says a lot about our country, unfortunately.
To close out his week-long coverage of O’Reilly, Sanchez brought on "crisis communications expert" Peter Mirijanian on Friday’s "Out in the Open" to second his call for the Fox host to apologize.
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.
















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Subtle Racism?More like
October 1, 2007 - 17:15 ET by Chris Norman"Subtle Racism"??!!
More like not-so-subtle bias, jealousy, and mud slinging tactics. CNN is as subtle as a train wreck.
Just curious
October 1, 2007 - 17:07 ET by well99"SANCHEZ: What's wrong with a white guy making social commentary about other people's race, which is what he seems to be doing, here. "
Isnt that the same thing?Your judgement includes Bill's race so what is the difference?Try finding a mirror and see if you see a racist there.
...did Bill actually say
October 1, 2007 - 17:14 ET by TruthMonger...did Bill actually say anything about race? Did he use the words "black people" or "African-Americans?" I thought he was talking about a restaurant?
"And I couldn't get over
October 1, 2007 - 17:39 ET by Wisdom"And I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's
restaurant and any other restaurant in New York City. I mean, it was exactly the same, even though it's run by blacks, primarily black patronship... There wasn't one person in Sylvia's who was screaming, 'M-Fer, I want more iced tea.'"
"You know, and I went to the concert by Anita Baker at Radio City Music Hall, and the crowd was 50/50, black/white, and the blacks were well-dressed."
Shift change!
October 1, 2007 - 17:42 ET by Chris NormanShift change!
ah - he did say blacks -
October 1, 2007 - 17:54 ET by TruthMongerah - he did say blacks - thanks!
if that's racist commentary then we have a ton of libs to go after...
is the left sure they want to go there?
You're unsure?
October 3, 2007 - 01:55 ET by KeithYou're unsure as to whether it is racist to be "suprised" to find blacks acting in a civilized manner? How about a man who ate dinner at your house and then came back and told the world that he was "suprised" that you're wife wasn't a WHORE? Or how's about a BLACK guy who comes to your barbecue (yeah right) and expounds about his "shock" at the lack of NOOSES? Would you feel so "charitable" then? Or would you properly feel that prior to this encounter, the bloke in question was under the impression that A. Your wife was a whore and B. Your family is in the Klan? If you can look at either one of these and say..."Oh, there's nothing wrong with that at all!" ...then you're an idiot or a liar. That said, I don't think that O'Reilly is a "racist" even though he clearly has "bigoted" views. There is a difference between being a "bigot" and being a "racist", I know that Conservatives usually feign ignorance of the distinction so I'll help you out. Someone can not like someone because of the color of their skin and NOT be a racist! This person is a "Bigot". The reason he is not a Racist is because his "views" hold no sway over the life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness, of another American. Just your average white nutjob mad at his small penis and all the mixed babies at the mall, that sort of thing. But to be a racist a man like O'Reilly would have to NOT hire people because of the color of their skin, get it? And O'Reilly certainly has people of color both on his staff and as guests on the "right" side as well as the "left". He has spoken ADORINGLY about many blacks whom he holds in high esteem, so clearly IMO, he is not a racist. He would have to "ACT" on his bigoted feelings to be a racist and since "Feelings" don't harm anyone, the misinformation that lingers from his youth, is of little consequence to me.
O'Reilly was GENUINELY trying to address the problem of racism as he sees it, namely that people don't really "know" each other. His castigation of his own grandmother for her "bigoted" views, should be proof of that for all but the most ardent haters. If this was used the right way it could have been a watershed moment for this country. A White guy with NO MALICE, finds upon reflection that some of the supposedly innocuous assumptions that he has been living with have been, shall we say, out dated? This could have been a "teaching moment" for many conservatives who suffer from the same malady. But sadly, all you guys have done is defend the indefensible. The guy who's post I'm answering, was building his fort of denial, around the hope that O'Reilly didn't actually "say" the word "Blacks", even though EVERYONE understood that to be the context. Upon reading the direct quotes and finding that the words he was "afraid" had been used, had in fact BEEN USED, he retreats further into DENIAL by saying "if that's racist commentary then we have a ton of libs to go after...is the left sure they want to go there?"
There is NO context within which his "Shock" at the civility of Americans in 2007, is not OFFENSIVE, even in the pursuit of a higer discussion. Again if I thought that your wife was either a WHORE or a KLANSWOMAN and was pleasantly suprised to discover that she was neither, I doubt you'd see the "upside".
hmm
October 3, 2007 - 03:40 ET by well99So useing what you said that would make you a bigot not a racist right?
Audio
October 1, 2007 - 17:59 ET by well99I listened to the audio and BOR was trying to make a point.That is why at the end he said there is no difference between people were all Americans.My point is Sanchez is using the race of Bill instead of just saying BOR.What is the difference?Two standards is ok?
sounds like the DNC and the
October 1, 2007 - 18:03 ET by TruthMongersounds like the DNC and the MSM are deliberately twisting words trying to divide conservatives and minorities...
naaaah - that would be absolutely evil!
Yup
October 1, 2007 - 18:09 ET by well99Same tactics different day is all.Oh lets give Breck Girl a pass on his statement on young blacks.Msm is so bogus yet they believe regular folks dont see their bias.
Oh! ... The neoPRAVDA and
October 1, 2007 - 17:13 ET by drillanwrOh! ... The neoPRAVDA and the lefty smear groups DO NOT want O`Reilly and Limbaugh to team up ...
BTW ... Anybody know if CNN’s Kyra Phillips ever got invited to holiday dinner at her brother and sister-in-law's home after her bathroom critique of said sister-in-law? Oh, I'm sure Kyra assured her S-I-L that she was taken completely out of context ... :^ b
This is the first battle of
October 1, 2007 - 17:16 ET by Free StinkerThis is the first battle of the 2008 presidential election.
The plan is to take out anyone that will oppose Hillary's coronation. Imus was 1st. If you don;t believe me, just remember that he lets McCain on his show. Can't have that when Hillary runs. the guy might support Thompson
. . . and no matter how horrific the terrorist attack, it's conducted by losers. Winners don't need to hijack airplanes. Winners have an Air Force. --P.J. O'Rourke
Echo chamber
October 1, 2007 - 17:18 ET by KC MulvilleIt's worth reminding viewers that the guests aren't selected at random; the producers seek these people out, knowing what they're going to say ahead of time. On CNN and MSNBC, they no longer have conversations in which the premise is ever challenged. It's always a race to see which guest can generalize the quickest.
This has all the intellectual integrity of a legal trial where the defense can't all any witnesses and can't cross examine.
I can only laugh at all of
October 1, 2007 - 17:30 ET by oldArmyI can only laugh at all of these stories about Rush and O'Reilly. How creative they are at keeping these stories alive. If they could only use this focus when reporting REAL news....oh wait....I said REAL news...what was I thinking. I guess they are trying to stir-up some kind of fake sense of outrage to have themselves another "Nappy Headed" Imus moment. I about fell off my chair when I heard that traitor John "I was in Cambodia" Kerry add his 2 cents to Rush's comments. These people(and I use that term loosely) are just so blinded by hate. They have effectively provided show material to the very people they are trying to smear.
OA... Amen. I couldn't
October 1, 2007 - 17:42 ET by bigtimerOA...
Amen.
I couldn't agree more or said it any better.
In is the new out.
October 1, 2007 - 17:59 ET by CrashZip a dee doo-dah, zip a dee ay
My, oh my, what a wonderful day.
Plenty of sunshine headed my way.
Zip a dee doo-dah, zip a dee ay.
As a child the above was among my favorite songs. I also liked "Speedy Gonzalaz." Two strikes ... I must be an insensitive rascist.
Meanwhile, 54% of black children cannot read. 70% are born into single parent houses (translation: NO FATHER). Zip a dee doh!
your blazing ignorance
October 3, 2007 - 02:59 ET by Keith"... I must be an insensitive rascist. "
YA THINK?
To quote those statistics you must be racist or something, it's almost like you're happy about those sad facts! Then you wrap it up with a "(translation: NO FATHER). Zip a dee doh!"
That's sick. How about thinking about those very same statistics this way. It's only been forty three years since Blacks were released from slavery. I know you think in your finite mind that slavery requires chains, but being segregated is a form of slavery to most of the civilized world. During both the slavery with chains and the subsequent Jim Crow, Separate but Unequal, era, hardly ANY blacks could read! During chained slavery, it was ILLEGAL and afterwards you could still be killed by some white nutjob if they found out you could read because that would make you an "uppity" Ni**er! Google "Emmet Till" for reference! When you consider, although you never would, the fact that welfare in this country DEMANDED that NO FATHER be PRESENT IN THE HOME, most can see how this would lead to disaster. Especially when you have a racist society that is reluctant to let certain folks WORK and that forces them into the welfare system. Contrary to the rules for the "relief" that was provided to Whites, which demanded no such separation of family, of course! Most people are smart enough to see a direct cause and effect between these things. Having said that, there is no excuse for not perservering in spite of your opposition, but let's not pretend that there is none, N'est Pas?
I love it when some mouth breather hearkens to the "statistics", as if we started from the same G'DaNGED place in the "race" and blacks just can't keep up! How about realizing for once in your misbegotten life, that your race DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD to "Retard" the growth of the Black "race". Just read the best sellers of 1920's thru the Bell Curve! You think the Democratic "smear machine" is something? Try being "Smeared" by the whole damned country!Try having white grandmothers teaching their children that you have a TAIL, you numbnutz and see how you "develope". Instead of listening to O'Reilly or Rush why don't you educate yourself on what your people actually DID in this great land of ours! You talk about fake polls and "survey's" and "studies" like the one the libs are using to show the need for the "fairness doctrine". Well, there were "studies" done on race too, my friend. Studies by the APA with prestigous idiots from prestigous universities, opining on the "natural inferiority of the black race". You had senators like Gore's old man, proudly denouncing a whole RACE of people from the FLOOR OF THE SENATE! And even in the hallowed halls of congress some of those sick feelings remain today! Trent Lott anyone? Bobby Sheets Byrd?
Boy it's easy to feel so superior when you don't know anything! Because if you knew ANYTHING, you'd know that those 54% are reading IN SPITE of people like you, not BECAUSE of you.
Rick Sanchez
October 1, 2007 - 18:20 ET by BlondeGood riddance to bad rubbish.
Trust me when I tell you, Rick Sanchez is a plusperfect idiot and the fact that he's at CNN is just totally typical. I had no idea where this toad landed when he skipped So. Fla., where he was on the local tabloid station.
True story, I once made a comment about "that moron Rick Sanchez" to which one of my staff (named Sanchez, natch) said, "oh, you mean my cousin, Rick?" Got me good. Of course he's not her cousin, oh how we laughed. Everyone I've ever heard mention Rick Sanchez agrees he's an idiot.
Bottom line, I wouldn't chalk this up so much to media bias and I would to a room temp IQ, considering the source.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
He used to be on msnbc way
October 1, 2007 - 18:27 ET by bigtimerHe used to be on msnbc way back when...
Wasn't bad either back then, most likely why he was let go, not leftist leaning enough.
Then CNN hired him later, he learned his lesson the hard way and sold what was left of his soul too...
Sad.
This is war!
October 1, 2007 - 19:42 ET by tbbaxterMedia Matters, with the upport of the harcore liberals in Congress, have started their organized full-frontal assault on conservative radio. They have already cherry-picked comments from O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh and are creating a firestorm out of a matchstrike. But just watch: I'll wager that the soundbite stormtroopers are out in force, calling in and trying to bait other conservatives like Hannity, Beck, Ingraham and Liddy. We'll be seeing a lot more of these blatant attempts to slander those who have conservative influence until arrogant, incompetent pr*cks like Harry Reid demand a revival of the Fairness Doctrine. Gird your loins, fellow conservatives! We are about to do battle! By the way, can I say pr*cks?
There was nothing "subtle"
October 1, 2007 - 22:02 ET by mrsimeleThere was nothing "subtle" about it. It was BLATANT bigotry. I let BOR slide when he made sexual advances against that co-worker (who threatened to sue so Bill paid her off) but I can't stand for bigotry in this day and age. I am glad MediaMatters is slapping these silly lil' right-wingers. Enough is enough :0)
Expert?
October 1, 2007 - 22:17 ET by well99So you are a expert on bigotry?Was this self reflection when you listen to the tape?Is that why you thought it was bigotry?You did listen to the tape right?I am sure you were glad when Media Matters left parts out to change the content.So what others Soros groups do you support?
another drive-by
October 1, 2007 - 22:17 ET by botgLIE?
You "let" BOR slide? Mrsimele, you're the biggest liar here.
October 1, 2007 - 22:23 ET by RJMrsimele, your pretend posts are funny. Last night, you lied when you said you have given Rush a "pass", and tonight you lie about your earlier reaction to BOR. It's funny that you delude yourself into thinking anyone here puts an ounce of credibility into anything you say. ;^>
Mrs Imele
October 1, 2007 - 22:31 ET by Free StinkerI can't stand for bigotry in this day and age.
So you say, but I note your conspicuous absense when we were asking NewsBusters to ban a real bigot in This Forum
. . . and no matter how horrific the terrorist attack, it's conducted by losers. Winners don't need to hijack airplanes. Winners have an Air Force. --P.J. O'Rourke
MRSIMELE...you troll!
October 1, 2007 - 22:33 ET by BlondeEnough.
Calling you out....as a troll.
Stick around and debate your post.
Or go scuttling for your leftist hidey-hole.
So, put up or shut up time for you.
And if you defer...it shall be a nail in your coffin for banishment.
Time to step up, mrsimele!
Waiting,
Regards,
Blonde.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
B-- Matt is sure to notice that
October 1, 2007 - 22:40 ET by botghit and run is all this troll knows, has a definate track record of doing so and i would expect banishment when the behavior is seen. Then the troll will whine
Yes, you are even more annoying than Blonde. the EYE
Hit & Run Trolls
October 1, 2007 - 22:50 ET by BlondeCertainly.
They get banned for this all the time.
One more troll, more or less, will be no diff here...except for the fact that it may raise the level of discourse.
Whatever. Trolls are trolls.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
there's no fool like a
October 1, 2007 - 23:00 ET by botgthere's no fool like a troll fool
You can't stand bigotry
October 3, 2007 - 21:30 ET by bretzysdudeYou can't stand bigotry because you're a bigot yourself. Deal with it. Oh, and by the way, quit being a drive-by, you stupid troll!!!!!
This is the same Rick
October 1, 2007 - 23:09 ET by skeptic1This is the same Rick Snatch head who ran over a pedestrian while drunk outside Dolphin stadium in the early 90's....received not even a slap on the wrist....
CNN
October 2, 2007 - 01:31 ET by Dr. RonDuring the 1990's, CNN was dubbed the Clinton (or, Clintonista) News Network...they have gone back to that role now. The mendacious and vicious attacks on Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly are CNN's way of ensuring Hillary's election in 2008 ...by using the typical politics of personal destruction (lies, innuendoes, et al) engaged in by the Clinton's using their private detectives and their MSM enablers against anyone who stood in their way or posed what they saw as a threat...and, there were many.