Even after the Juan Williams "idiots at CNN" rebuke, CNN still pressed on about Bill O’Reilly’s race remarks, and a guest on Wednesday’s "Newsroom" took the language being used against O’Reilly and Williams to new lows. Syracuse University professor and blogger Boyce Watkins appeared on the CNN program, and compared O’Reilly to a murderous movie villain and to Iranian tyrant Ahmadinejad. "If the villain in a movie comes up and says, 'I love you very much,' that usually means he wants to kill you. The fact is that Bill O'Reilly is a guy who has made a career demeaning, degrading, and devaluing every black institution he can get his hands on.... You know, he's about like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, when it comes to making ridiculous assertions and waiting for people to respond."
After his villain/Ahmadinejad comparison, Watkins blasted NPR host and Fox News contributor Juan Williams for coming to O’Reilly’s defense. O’Reilly’s race comments had come from an hour of his radio program that involved a segment with Williams. "Juan Williams sitting there, is sort of the 'Happy Negro' agreeing with Bill O'Reilly, doesn't impress me at all. A man cannot walk into your home and congratulate your mother for not being a prostitute and not expect you to be offended."
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Boyce Watkins appeared with fellow blogger and NB contributor La Shawn Barber during the 10 am Eastern hour of "Newsroom." Prior to their segment, host Heidi Collins played a report by CNN correspondent Mary Snow, which recapped the whole O’Reilly "affair," including sound bites from CNN contributor Roland Martin (from an interview on "American Morning" in which Martin was critical of O’Reilly) and CNN host Rick Sanchez, who had talked to O’Reilly for a segment on his program.
Barber later took issue with the "Juan Williams is a Happy Negro" characterization by Watkins.
BARBER: You know, that the 'Happy Negro' comment about Juan Williams was totally uncalled for. That's the kind of ad hominem that we have to deal with....
WATKINS: (LAUGHS)
BARBER: And you know, these people are going to talk about O'Reilly and they're doing the same things. Put the man's comment in context. I'm not a Bill O'Reilly apologist. He does say outrageous things, but that's what he does. It's not that big a deal. It's really not that big a deal given the context ...
Boyce Watkins also went over-the-top in portraying Bill O’Reilly’s impact on race relations. Note how Heidi Collins does not challenge any of the previous statements Boyce Watkins made about O’Reilly.
COLLINS: Okay, so Boyce, so far, you've called him a villian and you've compared him to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Other people are comparing what he said to what Don Imus said about the Rutgers basketball team. Is that a fair comparison to you?
WATKINS: Well, I think it is. It is actually a fair comparison. It's only unfair to the extent that actually O'Reilly has done more damage than Imus. It's like comparing 9/11 to the Iraq War. More people have died in Iraq, but in 9/11, it was more traumatic, so people would consider that to be a more devastating event. Don Imus's clash sort of came all at once, where as O'Reilly's -- his pain has sort of been evolving through time, and I think he needs to be challenged and he needs to understand that people are going to come back at him if he makes these sort of offhand remarks about stereotypes in the black community. He may think he's complimenting us, but the fact is that it was an insult.
Earlier in the segment, Collins addressed the following questions to Barber. " La Shawn, what is this story about? Is this about race? Is this about the way things come across on television? Is this about a battle between CNN and Fox?" Barber’s answer:
BARBER: I think this is a lot of media-generated nonsense. I, personally, as a black person, wasn't offended by what O'Reilly said. If you actually listen and read his comments -- listen to and read his comments and context, it becomes clear that he and Juan Williams were talking about the violent, profanity-laced element of the gangster rap culture. And Bill O'Reilly was trying to make the point that people -- white people who don't know black people or aren't exposed to black people, may get the impression that gangster rap culture represents black Americans. Well, we know that's not true. So, he may have expressed it awkwardly. I have to admit that it was kind of an awkward way he said it, but it wasn't offensive to me, given the context in which he spoke.
"Media-generated nonsense" - that’s a good description of this whole affair.
Related: Barber's blog post about the intervew.
—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.





















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You've gotta hand it to
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 14:35 ET by motherbeltYou've gotta hand it to them: there is NO person that they disagree with, that a liberal can talk about without eventually equating them to some kind of dictator or terrorist. Must have been in a rush; he missed a Hitler reference.
As for this:
"Juan Williams sitting there, is sort of the 'Happy Negro' agreeing with Bill O'Reilly, doesn't impress me at all.
I predicted yesterday that Williams would catch grief for defending O'Reilly, being called a "house slave" or worse.
Shooting fish in a barrel.....
They did manage to bash the
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 15:13 ET by general companyThey did manage to bash the Iraq war with this also, so they batted about .750 I would say.
Memo to BOR and Bill Bennett
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 14:36 ET by exLibMemo to Bill O'Reilly and Bill Bennett.
When quoting someone or something (like a book) don't surprised if your quote is taken like you actually said it.
Both incidents appear to be identical in approach and intent.
Both Bill's were making statements and then used a "racist" comment as a jumping off point to make a point.
It's stupid, ridiculous and really takes advantage of the gullibility of younger viewers who have bought into the lie that you don't even need to check out Fox News cause it's so biased, and here's another example.
It just proves how left-biased the media is by the ferocity with which they go after Fox. I don't remember any time in my life before 2000 that other Network "news" programs went after another networks "news" division.
This also happens ALL the
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 16:05 ET by drillanwrThis also happens ALL the time to Rush Limbaugh. He'll quote something from a paper (LATimes/NYTimes) and then use the terminology in his lexicon ... and then be blamed as if he had been its source (See: the Obama Magic Negro, LATimes "black" writer who coined the term) ...
Anyhow, LOOK the heck out CNN and the parties involved in this extremely lame display at making mountains out of stale pimples. Bill O`Reilly, and possibly Jaun Williams, WILL be on the war path tonight ... I'd bet my 2 mortgages on it!
cnn
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 14:39 ET by the mad poleFanning the flames with water. The story has as muach legs as a worm. Undeterred, CNN fumbles along.
Are CNN reporters racists for allowing "Happy Negro" line?
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 14:41 ET by nkviking75Barber was right to call Watkins out. If the usual MSM standard applies, I guess we can label correspondent Snow and anchor Collins racists for allowing the "Happy Negro" quote to go unchallenged.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
LaShawn Barber is a class
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 15:25 ET by motherbeltLaShawn Barber is a class act, all the way.
Watkins: No class, all a$$.
Watkins is scary
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 15:10 ET by GalvanicScarier than CNN's distorted reporting on a radio dialogue they obviously didn't listen to, is the fact that Watkins is a university professor.
Could you imagine the
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 15:16 ET by gueinCould you imagine the implications if BOR had referred to Juan Williams as being articulate or clean? The "happy negro" comment only serves to re-inforce William's point about the "idiots at CNN".
I find the "happy negro"
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 15:20 ET by BeowulfI find the "happy negro" comment to be at least as racist as CNN makes O'Reilly's comments out to be. And name one, just one, black institution that O'Reilly has demeaned, degraded, or devalued.
I can hear the crickets warming up...
The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers
The agenda must be preserved
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 15:22 ET by general companyOr, you could listen to the whole conversation. But I guess that would mean time consuming research and unbias reporting=no agenda tirade.
It must be a real slow news
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 15:24 ET by HypocriteHaterIt must be a real slow news day for CNN to STILL be talking about this. Although I'm sure they're trying their damnedest to give Bill the Don Imus treatment and hope he loses his job over this.
That's how the libs work. If they don't like what you say, but you're successful in getting your message out, they'll try whatever dirty trick they can to get you fired rather than let the marketplace decide whether it's a message people want to listen to or not.
And help me out here, Barber, is Ahmadinejad good or evil? I can't keep track of how you libs feel about him. He's good compared to Bush, but he's evil like our conservatives. I'm so confused!
I wonder how Juan Williams,
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 15:27 ET by Chris NormanI wonder how Juan Williams, wandering in the desert, feels about his liberal allies now?
You have to admire the guy
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 16:44 ET by KC MulvilleThe funny part is that Juan Williams is regularly hammered on FoxNews Sunday. They have two special camera shots for him. All of them get their own private frame when they're speaking, but Juan gets two extras. One shot is of Juan and Bill Kristol together, where Kristol is loading up his reply, and the second is Brit Hume scowling, ready to pounce.
I like the guy. He's an unabashed liberal, but an entertaining author. More importantly, though, is that he's reasonable. I don't agree with him but I can respect him.
Another victocrat
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 15:47 ET by Mr. KafirLook at that picture of Watkins, another angry black man. He's been opressed all his life by the Man. Now he's a victim. Oh yeah, he's also a "professor" at Syracuse U.
Of course, the soft racism of low expectations always practiced by the left in this country gets a pass. Fooey!!!!
How pathetic! Someone
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 16:17 ET by Richard RomanoHow pathetic! Someone speaks the truth, and they get compared to dictator; priceless leftist rhetoric, with a dab of race-baiting to top it off.
Who are the Racists?
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 16:19 ET by mattmIsn't the idea that if you're black you have to believe a certain way, and have a certain attitude, and if you don't, you're a "happy negro" or a "house marm" - isn't that a racist viewpoint?
It's high time the Right start pointing out that it's the ones who race-bait and race-monger who are the racists.
Boyce Who???
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 16:32 ET by NoMoreClintonsThis goofball Watkins sits there in his ivory tower (even if it is Syracuse) and dares to criticize a highly respected journalist (with whom, by the way, I generally disagree - but he's so likeable!) Huh? Am I missing something? Juan Williams has a world of, well, real world experience compared to Watkins' . . . uh, classroom experience. Whose opinion should carry more weight here? I guess every nobody-wanna-be-somebody needs his 15 minutes of whatever.
I think it's time to email
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 16:57 ET by Sonny LykosI think it's time to email the various CNN advertisers and let them know exactly why our families no longer watch CNN.
Michael Savage has been
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 17:43 ET by ckc1227Michael Savage has been using the first segment of his show today to attack BOR over this issue. He set up the segment by slamming Media Matters for the slime balls they are, but then proceeds to make the same argument that they are making, lol. So, that means either he didn't hear the segment, in which case he really shouldn't comment, or he did hear the segment and is lying about what actually happened.
Either way, now I understand exactly why other conservative hosts have such a low opinion of him.
From what Mark Levin says,
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 21:29 ET by Free StinkerFrom what Mark Levin says, Michael Savage copies from Levin's show. I've heard him allude to this occasionally.
It's easy to believe. I've heard Savage's show. IMHO, stealing ideas would be the only way Savage could improve his show.
I used to listen to Savage,
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 21:42 ET by AvatarI used to listen to Savage, too. But I found that i'm repelled by raving lunatics, whether they're on my side or not.
The Avatar
I can't stand savage
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 21:47 ET by Conservative VoiceHe is rude, always angry, and demeaning, even if you are conservative.
I really need to change my
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 17:48 ET by mostlymoderateI really need to change my name. The past 6 months of liberal BS has really made me draw closer to the "right" wing. I am finding it more and more difficult to remain "moderate" when the left wing supports this charade of "political correctness".
MM,
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 17:55 ET by wwsmithYou are only realizing what so few moderates have and that is that the left has moved so far to the left that moderates appear to be far right.
I think your assessment hits
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 18:01 ET by mostlymoderateI think your assessment hits the nail right on the head. :-) Thank you! I couldn't agree more.
Extreme left-wingers are not only the "enemy within" when it comes to terrorism, the War, immigration, etc. but they are ALSO the "enemy within" when it comes to race relations.
This morning, I said Juan Williams would be seen as "uppity"
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 19:14 ET by RJWhether it's "happy negro" or "uppity n-----", the left cannot stand blacks who stray from the plantation....
How can anyone feel anything but absolute disgust for these fools?
}}---> RJ
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 21:19 ET by Cool ArrowI don't see Juan Williams getting b!+ch slapped back into the fold like Katie Couric was after returning from Iraq.
He's been insulted as a Black man, as a friend, and as a journalist.
I disagree with him on many issues, but have found him to be an honest man open to dialogue.
~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~
Eeegad… Note to
Wed, 09/26/2007 - 23:20 ET by maggieqpublicEeegad…
Note to Professor Watkins (assuming the quotations in this piece are accurate). What course are you teaching at Syracuse? Personally, my husband and I were at the “U” (not Syracuse) when higher education was transitioning from teaching you “how to think” to teaching you “what to think”.
Sorta sounds like Professor Watkins has the same critical thinking skills that brought down Ward Churchhill. I would suggest, Professor Watkins, that you keep your scholarship off the airwaves. You might be exposed.
Cnn's creepy screamer
Thu, 09/27/2007 - 02:35 ET by daveinbocaCnn's creepy screamer Sanchez is notorious for stunts trying to boost his obnoxious image in the media. Paula Zahn demonstrated that class & style can't put a dent in B O'Rs numbers---Sanchez is trying to do a KOdorboy schtick which will predictably go swirling down the porcelain pipe.
Media Matters is a Gestapo operation run by Nazi Soros-cide type David Brock, who is an agent provocateur first heard from in the Anita Hill schlockery-fest with SCOTUS Justice Thomas's nomination fiasco. Brock was to re-bork Thomas & this fell through. But the evil Bohunk criminal mastermind had more work for this hard-working invert.
Unfortunately, O'Reilly does now have a tendency to be overbearing with his guests & when serial-liar Sanchez says he was screamed at by Bill, it rings true.
But Sanchez is a pos who will soon go the way of Paula, and CNN just doesn't have an answer for the Factor, nor does MSNBC, although the fever-swampers at NBC, CBS, & CNN desperately are trying to get Bill to commit an Imus moment.
Along with Hillary and the Breck Girl, they take their marching orders from the Soros-cide Media Mutterings.