MSNBC's Chris Hayes on National Security: 'We Need More Leaks, Not Less'
Reacting to allegations that the White House leaked several pieces of highly classified national security information to the press for political gain, on Monday's NBC Today, left-wing MSNBC host Chris Hayes demanded: "I think we need more leaks and not less...we should know how the war is operating and what's going on with a kill list that's operating out of the White House or what covert activities we're engaged in." [Listen to the audio or watch the video after the jump]
Only seconds earlier, fellow guest Meghan McCain, daughter of Arizona Senator John McCain, explained that her father called the leaks "the worst security breach he's ever seen in his entire career." She added: "...whomever is doing this is not putting their country first and thinking about America and the safety of our troops, and that's scary."
Two weeks ago, on day before Memorial Day, Hayes proclaimed on his Sunday morning MSNBC show, Up with Chris Hayes, that he was "uncomfortable" calling fallen soldiers "heroes."
It's interesting to note that Monday was the first time the Today show had brought Hayes on as a pundit since his cable show premiered on September 17, 2011.
Here is a portion of the June 11 exchange:
7:21AM ET
(...)
ANN CURRY: Alright, let's talk about this other comment that your father has made, he's reiterated over the weekend his charge that the national – that the recent national security leaks were politically motivated. And in fact, over the weekend he also went on to say that they were possibly leaked by the White House. I guess the question is, is there any proof to back up these charges?
[ON-SCREEN HEADLINE: White House Leaks?; Attorney General Launches Investigation]
MEGHAN MCCAIN: Well, I don't know of proof exactly, but I think when there's a leak like this, you have to look and see who is benefitting. And the President is obviously benefitting from this. I had a conversation with my father last night and he said this is the worst security breach he's ever seen in his entire career. For me, that sends absolute chills up and down my spine about exactly what we have given the terrorists and our enemies through these security leaks. And whomever is doing this is not putting their country first and thinking about America and the safety of our troops, and that's scary.
CURRY: Very briefly.
CHRIS HAYES: I think we need more leaks and not less. I mean I actually think that we should know how the war is operating and what's going on with a kill list that's operating out of the White House or what covert activities we're engaged in.
CURRY: Alright, I know you're not done, you're going to disagree.
MCCAIN: Chris and I are going to – we'll agree to disagree, Chris, there you go.
CURRY: Meghan McCain and Chris Hayes, thank you so much this morning for your perspective on these topics.
HAYES: Thank you.
MCCAIN: Thank you.
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At least Chris Hayes is consistent. ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:40am.
With having a less than stellar outlook or opinion.
MD
When Meggie looks at you like you're a moron, ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:47am.
... chances are YOU'RE REEEEEEEEEEALLLY A MORON!
This douche says we (the public, I assume) need to know "what covert activities we're engaged in?"
Chris, look up the definition of COVERT."
Honest to Mohammy, where on earth does NBC find the imbeciles that they put on the air.
Jeez!
I'm glad Ms. McCain is still finding work on the MSM
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:04pm.
I hope she gets that Dancing With the Stars gig.
OK then...
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:47am.
Being a traitor is virtuous.
Harming national security is helpful.
Getting our troops and security operatives killed is a non-issue.
Betraying the assistance given by foreign nationals is irrelevant.
Having foreign governments withhold sensitive information because we aren't trustworthy is secondary.
Believe me, he is only so
Submitted by tcm14 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:25pm.
Believe me, he is only so traitorous because things are not Communist enough for him. If this were a staunchly Communist government persecuting conservatives, then he would be a loyal little soldier and toe the company line. We oughtta just give him to Communist China. He would be less harmful as an out-and-out enemy.
There is always a debate....
Submitted by zenman1661 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:48am.
what information should be kept out of the public's hands and what should be known to them. (Think Pentagon Papers) But everything except the President's kill list has greatly hurt our ability to wage war on those who threaten us and the world. That is what needs to be the line that is not crossed no matter how much you believe in the value of an open government. I don't feel the kill list release hurts us much and I even think the public should be allowed to make suggestions on who should be on it.
Ralph Madcow's Sister...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:06pm.
...I can think of one name that should be added to the "Kill List"....
Welcome!!
Submitted by KornKing on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:49am.
It's an Obama world
Ok, Chris
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:57am.
"I think we need more leaks and not less."
Ok, Chris, I hope that someone in the administration "leaks" all of your tax records to the press, especially anything to do with your bank account numbers.
"I mean I actually think that we should know how the war is operating and what's going on with a kill list that's operating out of the White House or what covert activities we're engaged in."
Sure, let's give the enemy all the information they need to defeat us. Who cares how many Americans die because if this, right?
Dude, why don't you just don a turban and claim allegiance to al Qaeda?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Someone has a Current TV gig in their proximate future.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:56am.
Say Hi! to Shyster for me, K?
And they sure have some nimble directors in the broadcast booth, huh? They got the camera off Meghan in about two milliseconds when she made the WTF??? face.
Stupid or traitor?
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:56am.
Ok, RE: the kill list, it's just indicative of someone in the WH with absolutely NO value on life, which is why he's gleefully happy about using the drones.
Having said that, Hayes displays a shocking amount of naivette if that's what it really is about the "leaks," which endangers this country in so many ways, including HIMSELF as an American. However, since he doesn't seem to mind, then he's right up there with that treasonous bastard Bradley Manning, because he's cheering for more leaks. He'd do more himself if he could.
It never fails to impress me how much these liberals seem to think that these sorts of things are good things when the enemies wouldn't think twice about killing them, the same enemies that they don't mind getting leaks.
It's hard to tell if people are really that stupid or that traitorous.
-Jon
No
Submitted by oldfart on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:58am.
Just a 20 something that still believes all the bovine excrement put into his head by college professors.
Chrissy Hayes MSNBC's non too subtle espionage agent.
Submitted by CT on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:58am.
The more leaks I'd like to see would be peeing on little Chrissy’s head.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:04pm.
Remind me again why nobody watches this silly little network? I forget...
A "Journalist"?
Submitted by mmilesll on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:04pm.
This moron is the reason nobody watches the LSM. If journalism were front and center an idiot like this would not have a job. It is this kind of thinking that kills people and puts our country in grave danger, something this clown wouldn't understand.
Gabby Chris Hayes
Submitted by CO2Maker on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:07pm.
Gabby Hayes sounds like he'd make a great expert witness for the defense in the Bradley Manning trial. Perhaps he's also angling for a position as an advisor to Julian Assange.
It must be the glasses.
Ah yes...Meghan McCain. Now THERE'S a scholar.
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:07pm.
She's another one that's so much more afraid of being called "un-hip" that she's willing to adopt half of the Democratic party's platform. What a RINO. I think that picture of her sitting on a bed, drinking a beer with a computer on her lap is perfectly representative of her. She's looking demurely at the camera...all I can see is a young woman who doesn't know what she believes, but wants people to like her. "Look...I can be a hip and cool, just like you Democrats."
Wait a minute...what exactly is her qualification for being asked ANY question on national TV, other than "When is your Dad going to retire?"
Concur
Submitted by NYCMiddle on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:15pm.
entirely. Her interview in Playboy was dreadful. She adds nothing.
Let's call a spade a spade: but for her last name she would not be on TV.
Cannot the Right find intelligent talking heads to put on these shows? There are more than a few and the message is one that resonates with the American people.
Note: Chris Hayes is such a nothing he deserves no response other than to note the zero response.
Yeah, Meghan is as bad as
Submitted by tcm14 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:38pm.
Yeah, Meghan is as bad as Hayes in her own way. Hayes backstabs our heroes in the military, whereas Meghan backstabs our heroes in the blogosphere. She, like Hayes, would be less damaging if she just came out for the other side and didn't claim to be a conservative.
Hint to Meghan: The left-wing networks do not have you on because they want a strong voice for conservatism. They want the weakest, stupidest, most confused and muddied defense of conservatism possible, which is why they choose you.
Put this idiot in a uniform
Submitted by I hate marxists on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:10pm.
and send him to one of the hot spots,I'm thinking Afganistan
Why pay for the airfare
Submitted by CO2Maker on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:20pm.
He wouldn't make it more than a day on Smoke Bomb Hill at Fort Bragg.
Yes and then...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:35pm.
...have someone "leak" his coordinates to an Afgani mortar crew or rocket launcher. After all "leaks" are good, right?
hey dispstick,
Submitted by notinstl on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:12pm.
....it's not covert if everyone knows about it..
Funny how the Democrats
Submitted by djaymick on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:23pm.
Funny how the Democrats played a different tune when Valerie Plume, a retired CIA operative, was outed by the media and how they quickly blamed the Bush Administration. They made Scooter Libby the poster child of government leaks, even though he was found innocent. (He was sentenced for lying to Congress. Funny how this will somehow elude Holder, too.)
There is a US ally in prison.
Submitted by Texndoc on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:30pm.
There is a Pakistan physician who's work with the US in finding bin Laden was exposed and this man now rots in prison. How can you re-write this history? Obama is a disgrace.
And Meghan McCain is a publicity whore with a capital WHORE.
a puzzle... is there a secret GITMO?
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:38pm.
The kill list begs the question of just where and HOW is the information being acquired that allows the President to assign a death warrant against foreign nationals that are deemed enemy combatants? Information of that type can only be had by informants or interrogation of captured suspects. If it is captured suspects just what methods are being employed to make them talk?
Why do you want to know?
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:51pm.
"If it is captured suspects just what methods are being employed to make them talk?"
Why do you want to know? Do you want our enemies to understand what they may be facing and be trained to resist the interrogation techniques? That's exactly what happens when this type of information is released to the public.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
of course not
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 1:04pm.
I'm merely trying to 'BUSH-whack' the obama administration. obama ran as the anti-Bush. He was going to use diplomacy and his gift of persuasion to get the world and especially our enemies to respect us. But now he is bragging about his kill list passing himself off as a feared leader against terrorism.
My question about sources of information is just to point out that there is a hidden side to the kill list that isn't explained. I doubt that the die-hard Lefties would want to know what their guy is doing.
There aren't any captured terrorists,
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 4:32pm.
they all get turned in to red mist and bloody boot tops. And, who in their right mind would give the U.S. any info, now?
Why
Submitted by NYCMiddle on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 4:53pm.
should the esteemed constitutional law professor, now President have to actually address the issue of detainee "rights" when he can just kill them?
Like the MCA or not it was at least an attempt to do something rather than just complain.
This isn't a policy. It is a recipe to leave this country blind.
Hey Chris!!
Submitted by Samaritan01 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 12:48pm.
Don't sweat it, with Obama in office I guarantee there will be lots more leaks........Obama is a malignant narcissist and he can't help himself.
He LOVES being told how intelligent he is, the evidence notwithstanding.
Obviously this little tilley
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 2:15pm.
Obviously this little tilley was a condom leak.
What's this little androgynous biatch got to worry about?
Submitted by Cappmann1962 on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 12:50pm.
Leaking national intelligence only disproportionately affects all those non-heroes in uniform. Elitist liberals don't, and never have, given a rat's a$$ about the military. Our service men and women are simply TOOLS, to be used as their betters decide. They're not intelligent or intellectual enough to worry about. Besides, most of them are (gasp) REPUBLICANS!!!
This piss-poor excuse for a human being is nothing more than a weak-kneed, panty-bunching, hanky-stomping, liberal elitist weasel. His word is as relevant as a loose shutter banging in the wind. Annoying, but not the least bit important...
He makes Matthews actually
Submitted by StCroix64 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 7:30pm.
He makes Matthews actually sound smart. He really hates our men and women in uniform. Apparently he has never heard the phrase, "loose lips, sink ships". What an effin moron.
Zamyatin's We
Submitted by integral on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 9:17pm.
If they fail to understand that we bring them mathematically infallible happiness, it will be our duty to compel them to be happy. But before resorting to arms, we shall try the power of words.
In the name of the USA, therefore, we proclaim to all the citizens of the USA: Everyone who feels capable of doing so must compose tracts, odes, manifestoes, poems, or other works extolling
the beauty and the grandeur of the USA.
This will be the first cargo to be carried by the Integral. Long live the USA, long live the numbers, long live the Obamafactor!
integral, your post is the very first ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 10:25pm.
for real (+) brain fart I have seen actually put into words and typed out.
MD
(+) - Not discounting, of course, the many lib troll posts whose smell truly approximates said item.
I'll tell ya, MD, I couldn't
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:34pm.
I'll tell ya, MD, I couldn't understand a damn thing that this 'intetroll' wrote..............so I'd be hesitant to even call it a 'brain fart'.
Maybe more like a diarrhetic leak???
killa---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 06/11/2012 - 11:39pm.
That works well. :o)
MD
Idiocracy, the real life example: killa37,
Submitted by integral on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 7:24pm.
killa37: not able to understand what is written. It does not surprise me. It is from the book WE.
matthewdean: I am not surprised you found the passage confusing. This is from your profile "Loved EVERY minute of it as I can think of nothing better than making a good living while working at an occupation you love." Find someone to explain that the "I" and the "you" refer to different people.
CobraMan: find an adult that you explain the meaning of the passage. It does not mean what you interpreted.
The novel is called WE and it is about a dystopian society where the citizens swoon and talk about how great their society and their leader is--just like you three.
I can not believe that killa37 admitted that he could not understand the passage. You admitted your reading comprehension is less than grade 12.
matthewdean, a possessive noun--Zamyatin's We--should have clued you to understand where the phrase came from--and you investigated arson: LLPOF.
integral
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 8:00pm.
Before you comment on killa's reading level you should understand a few things. First, he went to the same high school the "brilliant" Obama went to.
Secondly, killa is a builder. That means he can read work plans, and transform them into solid structures. He materials and labor, pays taxes, and actually creates something from his labor.
Third, Cobra, MD, and killa are NOT talking about how great their society and leader are. We find quite a bit lacking, particularly in our leader.
Talk about reading comprehension...
Schools's out, Rad, the trolls have all been
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 8:12pm.
relegated to the basement of the Poli-Sci building, from whence they will astound and amaze us with their wit and knowledge. We can only hope that, eventually, mom and dad will stop subsidizing their wi-fi account, and this place will return to being the province of adults.
check it out upnorth*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 8:21pm.
Maybe Obama was right. The economy is improving in the private sector. Just think, all those sto' bought college trolls all now have summer jobs./s
come on do math.
Submitted by integral on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 11:05pm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_eLn12MSi0
if you can't argue facts,
Submitted by integral on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 10:59pm.
if you can't argue facts, argue character. He is from political science and lives with his mom and dad. That wasn't pulled out of thin air. That could have only been pulled out of your a$$.
Facts? You claim to have posted a fact?
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 11:43pm.
Where? Your idea of a fact is certainly not what adults think of when they hear the word. Your mewling is nothing more than the whine of a child, sitting at the small table, trying to insert itself into the conversation that adults are having.
And, you've gotten the reception that a child gets from adults, at first, tolerance, quickly followed by exasperation, as the conversation goes on and you still make no sense.
you are an adult only in
Submitted by integral on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 12:21am.
you are an adult only in physical age.
And you are informed and
Submitted by NC Cop on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 10:21pm.
And you are informed and intelligent only in an alternate reality.
BURN!
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 10:45pm.
He shoots! He scores! Nothin' but net!
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Killa's the one who said he
Submitted by integral on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 10:54pm.
Killa's the one who said he could not understand it. The school one goes to does not determine if one understands something. killa stated he could not understand it. I only commented on killa's comprehension, not his skill in other areas, whether he paid taxes, etc. your arguments are those of someone who got pi$$ed off and throws out bull$h!t to stay off the real issue.
Quote: I'll tell ya, MD, I couldn't understand a damn thing that this 'intetroll' wrote..............so I'd be hesitant to even call it a 'brain fart'. Maybe more like a diarrhetic leak???
RadicalMan: you are entitled to not like the novel; that's a personal preference and you are entitled to it. Too claim you have 2 degrees and somehow the novel is not a literacy masterpiece, that is a problem. I am not a big fan of Mozart but for me to state his music is not that great and I have 2 degrees is not valid anymore than your claim about the novel. If you think it is simply a critical look at Marxism, you don't understand the book but then you had a quick look at the summary. here is an idea, read the book for yourself and make up your own mind what it is about. Consider this, why do so many people with real credentials consider this novel so great?
Cobraman: I'll concede the sentence error, you are correct. It should have read, find an adult that can explain the meaning of the passage. Now argue the sentence. You stated,
We did try that. We've tried that again and again throughout our History. It failed, again and again throughout our history. There's a lesson to be learned in that, which is that the people who want to kill you don't care about what you have say to them.
with respect to this sentence: "But before resorting to arms, we shall try the power of words."
Yes, cobraman, if you can't understand something then it is the other person's problem. Speaking of sentences, consider your versus you're.
I couldn't put it in quotes since I changed One State to USA and Benefactor to Obamafactor but people with so many degrees should have picked up the title Zamyatin's We. Another way to give credit to the source since I did not include any of my own writing in the original post.
Quotes:
killa: Obviously this little tilley was a condom leak. (same high school as Obama)
Cobraman: Dude, why don't you just don a turban and claim allegiance to al Qaeda? (if you are not with us, you are against us)
matthewdean: at least Chris Hayes is consistent. --- With having a less than stellar outlook or opinion. (snide)
Small people always get so pi$$ed off and defensively when they do not like what they see in the mirror.
Intertroll
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 11:11pm.
First off, I'm not "RadicalMan". And yes, when liberal trolls come on site and smugly tell someone what their reading level is, I get annoyed. Don't throw you bull around and expect you won't get called on it.
Not understanding a piece of tripe like you posted isn't a measure of reading ability, as a former teacher I can tell you this from experience. My point in giving you killa's background is to show you HE at least, is a productive member of society who contributes. Do you?
Tell me why I don't have "real credentials" but someone else does? You have no idea what my education, background, and knowledge are.
So scurry off back to whoever you get your talking points from and try again.
RadicalWoman If you
Submitted by integral on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 12:23am.
RadicalWoman
If you previously taught--given your obvious bias--that explains a lot about our education system, doesn't it.
Your credentials. Someone with real credentials would not read the summary and then give a comment on a book. They would read the book and then give their view, with supporting evidence. The summary is someone else's view and given your comments, your understanding approaches zero. Real credentials means more than a piece of paper.
your critique:
I've got two bachelor's degrees and it doesn't strike me as any literary masterpiece. And a quick look at the summary shows integral has it backwards. The book is a critical look at Marxism, exactly what obama is pushing on us. So he's using a book against Obama's policies to promote obama.
Do I? Always paid my own way, left home at 18, paid for university while I worked at night, came out of school debt free and now earn more money than I spend. But that has nothing to do about killa. killa contributes whatever he can to society and that is all one should expect--you know, liberal thinking.
intergrowl*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 12:36am.
You make a serious mistake in your thinking. How do you think journalists and critics expound on different subjects? They didnt READ every book on every subject, be assured. There are other skills involved such as investigators, logical thinkers...Some folks can look at the big picture, others can't see beyond the 5 words in front of them
Your personal story is interesting. Welcome to world of ordinary people. Many of us here at NB can tell similar stories of their lives. See, many of us even went to college before there was a such thing as Pell Grants, federal loan programs, food stamps. We all worked in order to pay for our education. Some folks got their education the hard way, in the real world, and made the effort to "self educate", which is why we have libraries and bookstores.
"Real credentials mean more than a piece of paper" Yes, it requires the ability to successfully apply knowledge represented by those credentials. An example of failure of a credentialed expert is Rachel Maddow...
there is a big difference
Submitted by integral on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 1:09am.
there is a big difference between what a journalist writes by skimming through a book and what a critic writes by reading the entire book carefully. That's not my mistakes in thinking. It's called different audiences. Read a movie review from a newspaper and read the same movie review from NYU. One is 1/2 a page and the other is 8 pages. If one just goes to movies for entertainment, then read the 1/2 page review; if one earns a living making movies, read the 8 page review. But the newspaper review is not the standard by which the movie should be judged critically.
He asked if I contribute to society so I stated the story. He can judge on his own. I went before pell grants, etc. and I never stated self-educated people don't know as much. Experience is what makes your statement true: "Yes, it requires the ability to successfully apply knowledge represented by those credentials." Education is anything that enables one to perform their function better, and most of it does not come from school, imo.
Not familiar with Rachel Maddow.
Inter troll
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 1:16am.
You are one obtuse person. But let me clue you in on something, most of us can translate bull$&@ here.
It really isn't making you sound smart, just juvenile.
Radicalwoman's
Submitted by integral on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 1:21am.
Radicalwoman's definition
bull$&@ = anything I don't agree with or can't understand.
You're not understandable,
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 10:20pm.
You're not understandable, nor coherent, or even lucid..................and anybody with any common sense wouldn't want to agree with you anyway.....................so I'd have to go along with Ms. Radical's assesment.
integral ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 12:56am.
Rad stated: "So he's using a book against Obama's policies to promote Obama".
You reply: "Do I? Always paid my own way, left home at 18 --"
If Rad had said " --he used a book--" your reply would properly be "Did I?"
Since Rad said "he's using a book", your reply, if you were utilizing correct grammar, should have been "Am I, or Was I?"
You lose, bozo.
You ain't all that.
You're a poseur; just like your purple-lipped messiah.
MD
MD
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 1:01am.
I couldn't make any sense out of what integral was writing. His delusions of grandeur leave me totally underwhelmed.
just another clue Ms Rad*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 1:07am.
His delusions of grandeur, arrogance, condescention, then insults concludes integral is a lib troll. It is without fail that every troll finally resorts to insults after having their idiot comments and bs cut up into little pieces with a pair of blunt scissors.
you should read your writing;
Submitted by integral on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 1:16am.
you should read your writing; it is you who only uses insults.
You, integral, are a supercilious twit. You deserve ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 2:37am.
every bit of grief sent your way.
You have earned it; x 10.
MD
You shoud learn to write.
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 11:04pm.
"First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye."
I don't think Matthew had you, personally, in mind when he said that thousands of years ago, but it still applies.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
do I refers to your assertion
Submitted by integral on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 1:13am.
do I refers to your assertion do i contribute (to society) but next time I will not leave out anything so it easy for you to follow.
Just a suggestion integral*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 1:29am.
Read your post again and you will see why some of us have difficulty translating your posts. Try the preview button before you hit save.
I'll give you that
Submitted by integral on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 1:39am.
I'll give you that
integral ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 2:34am.
You are typical of those with a superiority complex.
When you parse someone else's sentences, you try and make it appear as though they made an error.
When someone does it to you, you try and make it appear as though they either misread, or misunderstood, what you said or how you were saying it.
You are a phony pos.
MD
intetroll - was that actually
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 10:17pm.
intetroll - was that actually a sentence, or a statement, or even a coherent combination of words??? And you're flapping your stupid gums about MY, and others, intelligence??? You don't even qualify to wash the rims on my dirty truck, meat - and I'm sure that some of my friends here would be a little more harsh than that.
Hey champ,
Submitted by NC Cop on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 10:23pm.
moving into your parents basement doesn't consitute "leaving home at 18".
Good luck.
Two, Really?
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 11:28pm.
"I've got two bachelor's degrees..."
Two, really? It's too bad that none of them were in English Composition.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
First of all, intetroll,
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 10:30pm.
First of all, intetroll, unless I'm seriously delusional, this thread is about this useless little twerps statement about national security, OK?? Just because you show up and start talkin' (Obamaspeak) about some worthless book that has nothing to do with anything - and I, or anybody else - don't jump into your lame attempt to change the subject doesn't mean that we're in the wrong.
And, yeah, I DO think that this queebie was a condom leak - what the hell does he do for a living?? What does he have to offer to make things better?? Badmouthing American soldiers??? Encouraging more security breaches and leaks?? Flapping his misinformed gums about 'global warming'??? Riding his friggin' bike??? Maybe he ought to look at the 'carbon footprint' of the TV station that probably pays him a helluva lot more than I earn as a self-employed builder.
All of these posters that you are insulting and putting down are so much sharper, more incisive, and better informed than you'll ever be, I can tell you that much. You have a hard enough time writing a coherent and grammatically correct sentence - much less having it be understandable. Plus, you've got no sense of humor or irony, which make you another dull, drab, self-important, condascending lib.
When did NB become a college
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 10:55pm.
"Now argue the sentence. You stated..."
"with respect to this sentence..."
If you're looking for a term paper, go someplace else. I've already completed all the schooling I care to attend. What are you, anyways, a wanna be professor?
As I said before, drop the intellectual act. It doesn't suite you. It's only making you look like an arrogant twit.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Jeez, Cobra - I went to
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 10:59pm.
Jeez, Cobra - I went to college long enough to notice that the professors - whether I agreed with them or not - could at least put together an understandable and coherent statement most of the time. Unfortuatly, I can't say the same of ol' intetroll.......hell, the guy is like a written version of Boy Baraka away from the teleprompter, minus the ooooooooohs, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhs, ummmmmmmmmm's, and welllllllllllllllllllllllllllls.
My nephew pulls this kind of crap
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 11:02pm.
Making things difficult to understand because he has nothing to say but he thinks he's saying nothing very intelligently.
And THAT, is what I call bull^&(^.
It could be due to an error in translation.
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 11:24pm.
I think he's just having trouble translating his native language before posting. That language, of course, being "texting." KNIM?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
I have an associate degree
Submitted by CobraMan on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 8:29pm.
I have an associate degree, and I still didn't understand what you were saying. So, it can't be from a lack of education. It must be YOU! Perhaps it would be more helpful if you actually enclosed quotes in, you know, quotation marks, and cited the source. It's what an intellectually honest person would do. Otherwise, your just plagiarizing.
Stop playing the "intellectual," it doesn't suit you. You're far more of the "arrogant" type.
"CobraMan: find an adult that you explain the meaning of the passage. "
By the way, I think you should find an adult and have them explain to you how to construct a proper sentence.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
You haven't been around here much, have you?
Submitted by CobraMan on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 8:19pm.
"The novel is called WE and it is about a dystopian society where the citizens swoon and talk about how great their society and their leader is--just like you three."
How "great" our leader is? You haven't been around here much, have you?
Let me offer you a piece of advice: You should go back the the Free Republic, it's more your style. They're just as snobby as you are.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Cobra
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 8:25pm.
I've got two bachelor's degrees and it doesn't strike me as any literary masterpiece. And a quick look at the summary shows integral has it backwards. The book is a critical look at Marxism, exactly what obama is pushing on us. So he's using a book against Obama's policies to promote obama.
What a dip$h!%
integral ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 11:19pm.
The following tells me all I need to know about you:
"This will be the first cargo to be carried by the Integral. Long live the USA, long live the numbers, long live the Obamafactor!"
Your unbelievably puerile attempt at parsing the sentence contained in my profile is easily shown to be mistaken; the words 'I" and "you" can swap places in the sentence and the sentence remains eminently readable and understandable.
Unlike your presumptuous slathering of verbiage.
You are an idiot-assed, chuckle-headed, brain dead, Obamabot liberal troll; with grandiose visions of literary magnificence dancing on the inside of your thick skull.
Instead of being the grammarian par excellence you believe yourself to be - you are a mental munchkin, and your attempts at coming across as Lord High Pontificator Supreme reek as the equivalent of effluvia being emitted from a Pretentious Hog's ass.
You are a dork, a suckwad, a nimrod, and an ass-munching lib dipshit.
No charge for listing only your good points.
Putz.
MD
MD
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 11:21pm.
You have an incredible way with words. You and Dave have incredible troll bashing abilities, rivaled by Bru, who is far to preoccupied with her new angel to swim in the depths of idiocy with these trolls.
So thank you for being you. :)
Rad, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 11:39pm.
thanks.
Too bad I am not allowed to post using my station house vernacular; it would fry the transmission lines - but also the hair on the troll's head.
The flamethrower effect also works exceptionally well as a vermifuge factor; most appropriate when dealing with a troll infestation. :o)
MD
Ms Rad*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 11:43pm.
Ditto.....and I too am sick of trolls who are only able to repeat the Obama media lies and myths. If this troll wants to be an "integral" part of anything, he needs to look up the true definition of useful idiot.
"Loved EVERY minute of it as
Submitted by integral on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 12:18am.
"Loved EVERY minute of it as I can think of nothing better than making a good living while working at an occupation you love."
This means that you did a job that not you but someone else loved, idiot
One more time, integral ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 12:43am.
" --- 'I" (meaning me personally) can think of nothing better than making a good living while working at an occupation you (meaning any other person, any individual other than myself, or any person) love."
There is nothing better than working at an occupation that is loved. That would be, by 'whomever' is working at that particular occupation.
Your desire to be seen as the ne plus ultra in parsing the English language has already put you in the toilet, you pluperfect liberal gonad muncher, and you are so damned stupid that you continue to try and flush yourself.
At least, as an Obama lover, you are in the right place, sewer breath.
MD
Hey intertroll - I guess
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 3:00am.
Hey intertroll - I guess you're blowing this thread up, and usin' (Obamaspeak) my name in vain while you're at it. Well, I just worked an 8-hour day, and then I surfed until dark, and now I've finally got the opportunity - after feeding my stupid cats and taking a shower - to mix up a delicious black cherry/vodka drink and read my emails, the news, the sports, the surf reports, and - of course - NewsBusters.
You mentioned some book that I've never heard of OR read, and also made some dispairaging remark about my level of intelligence. That's OK - I'm a big boy and I can handle some lame criticism - which is something that your Boy Baraka is unable to do. And I'm not a big reader either, so I can't sit here and blow smoke up your ass about who, or what, or why I've read anything. I'm just a 'student of life'................and I've been around the block a few times, and I know how to take care of myself.
I didn't go to college for very long - but I can guaran-damn-tee you that I know more about life than most college graduates.
And Ms. Rad is right (and by the way, my dear friend, thanks for the kind words), I DID go to the same school as your Boy Baraka - which is a very hoity-toity private school in Honolulu. And I was accepted based on the scores of my entrance exam, and since my parents couldn't afford all of the tuition, I got a 50% scholarship, and I had to do errands and tasks during my homeroom and study periods to pay for the other half. And I can guaran-damn-tee you that I got better grades ( and I have the transcripts to prove it, meat!!) than your Boy Baraka - who WAS admitted due to affirmative action and the fact that his communist 'typical white' grandmother was a bank VICE-PRESIDENT!!! Pretty good job for a confirmed communist!!!!
And - hey, intetroll - did you know that Boy Barry's grandmother died the day before he was coronated - even though her only physical problem was a bad hip???? But that's a whole other story, and I'm sure that you don't want to hear about it, meat.
Forget your books, forget your talking points, forget your delusional mentality, meat................you wanna match 'intelligence' or 'IQ' or anything like that??? Bring it on, meat - you're just another dope who can't even write well enough to make yourself understandable.
Good morning killa
Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 5:42am.
I caught you talking to idiots again didn't I? Don't you know that quoting from some asinine book makes trolls smart? I noticed that you used the age old way of getting a mule's attention - smack him upside the head with a two-by-four.
We have to find out who's turning over all the rocks in Trolltown releasing all these little varmints. This one has no understanding of proper english.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
MatthewDean
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 11:07pm.
I think I've found where integral got his degree.
RESTLESS ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 06/14/2012 - 1:26am.
LMAO !
MD
Yeah, meat, I guess I'm a
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 10:40pm.
Yeah, meat, I guess I'm a 'real life example' of 'idiocracy', since I (OH MY GOD!!) admitted that I didn't understand your post. So guess what?? I'll admit to it again - so now I'm a 'real life example of idiocracy' SQUARED!!! As in -REALLY STOOOOPID!!!!
But I'll tell ya sumpin, intetroll - if a dope like you says something like that to me, then I must be living right - because impressing some worthless nimrod like you would be the LAST thing I would ever want to do in my life. Guys like you are a dime a dozen. I'm more interested in knowing people with class, character, courage, wit, common sense, humility, dependability, responsibility, and a positive outlook and attitude towards this cruel and unfair life that we live. That leaves you out............
Killa
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 11:00pm.
Yep, you're really stupid, and obama's brilliant. And the earth is flat and the sky is green, cause if the first sentence is true the world is most certainly messed up (feel free to replace the word messed with another word I don't use, being a lady and all).
Hey killa*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 11:07pm.
That was a great post. Not bad for a stupid guy...;-)
Mahalo Ms. Caj...........and
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 11:20pm.
Mahalo Ms. Caj...........and with regards to my answer to Ms. Rad - who luvs ya????
An I no dat im not as stooopid as de gy name intefull tinks dat i am, eether!!! I had went to hi skule, an i got sum gud grayds in sum harrd subjeks. I evn tuk a i-kew test wunce, an dey tol me dat i was evn smartur dan dat specule guy whu wuz admitted cuz he wuz not a whyte purson or evn an Amerikan sitizen........an he didn haf to dew da same wurk dat we did, plus dey let him play on da basketball teem, evn tho he wuz a krappy player. Mosly he jus drank an got stond and talkd abot hisself all de tim.
Well, Ms. Rad, you reall ARE
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 06/13/2012 - 11:11pm.
Well, Ms. Rad, you really ARE 'a lady and all', along with a lot of other fine women here on NB - including Ms. Yardley, who is turning into a lush because of the bad influence of me and newsbubba!!! And another 'true fine mama' (I think the great Richard 'Little Richard' Pennimen sang that line) was the also lovely and elegant miss 911 ninja, who is as sharp and incisive as anyone could be. I think she's been super busy with school and working, so she hasn't had much of an opportunity to come around here and join the fun - but she always was a lot of fun.
Forget intetrotroll...........he'll just be another fart that showed up, stunk the place up, and finally - and mercifully - disappaited. There's another dipsh*t named colonoscophy, or something like that, who is lurking around making stupid comments - apparantly that is all he can do..........but he/she will become another moronic methane memory also.
We did try that.
Submitted by CobraMan on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 11:33am.
"But before resorting to arms, we shall try the power of words."
We did try that. We've tried that again and again throughout our History. It failed, again and again throughout our history. There's a lesson to be learned in that, which is that the people who want to kill you don't care about what you have say to them.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Where's the link for cheapchinesepocketbooks.com?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 06/12/2012 - 8:50pm.
The autospammers we get here are more coherent.