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By Kyle Drennen | March 01, 2011 | 13:16

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On Tuesday's CBS Early Show, co-host Chris Wragge touted a new poll claiming people support unions over Republican plans to cut state deficits: "A new CBS News/New York Times poll shows that a majority of Americans, 56%, are opposed to cutting the pay and benefits of state workers to balance budgets while just 37% are in favor of it."

While Wragge called them "state workers," the actual poll consistently used the phrase "public employees," never state workers or government workers. On NBC's Today on Tuesday, pollster Frank Luntz explained how one phrase invokes a positive response while the other does not. Speaking to co-host Matt Lauer about the newly released CBS poll, he noted: "If you call them 'public workers' a majority of Americans respect them. If you call them 'government workers' a majority of Americans don't." Clearly, CBS and the New York Times selected wording that would elicit a response favorable to the liberal position on the issue.

In the report that followed on the Early Show, correspondent Cynthia Bowers described how Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's budget-cutting proposal "seeks to plug a $3.6 billion budget gap, would limit state union workers rights to collective bargaining, something the Governor insists is necessary." She then claimed that the poll showed that "others argue it isn't ethical." No where did the poll ask if curbing collective bargaining for unions was ethical or not, but simply if respondents agreed with the policy or not.

Bowers went on to declare: "According to the CBS News poll, 60% of Americans oppose taking away the collective bargaining rights of unionized public employees." As Luntz also pointed out on Today: "...if it is instead called 'the right of people to join or not to join a union' then the whole side flips."

Finally, Bowers cited another finding supposedly against Walker: "Our poll showed Americans even prefer raising taxes over cutting employee benefits or funding to schools or roads. Since taking office in January, Governor Walker has cut corporate taxes in Wisconsin." The question she referred to reads:

If you had to choose one, which of the following would you be willing to do in order to reduce your state's budget deficit   1. increase taxes, 2. decrease benefits of public employees like teachers or police officers, 3. decrease funding for roads and public transportation, or 4. decrease funding for education?

While Bowers touted the 40% who called for higher taxes, she failed to point out that if the other three options – all calling for spending cuts – were combined, 45% of respondents would favor a reduction in government spending over increasing taxes.

As NewsBusters' Brent Baker earlier reported, Monday's CBS Evening News also hyped the new poll, emphasizing the same points as Bowers. He noted that when CBS polling showed a clear majority of Americans supported Arizona's immigration law in 2010 – which the media continually vilified – the network was largely silent.

Here is a full transcript of the March 1 Early Show segment:

7:00AM ET TEASE:

CHRIS WRAGGE: Ultimatum. A new CBS News poll finds a majority of Americans back union workers in the ongoing budget battles as Governor Walker threatens layoffs if Democrats don't come back to work today. We're live in Wisconsin with the latest on the political showdown there.

7:09AM ET SEGMENT:

CHRIS WRAGGE: Now to the ongoing battle over state and federal budgets. A new CBS News/New York Times poll shows that a majority of Americans, 56%, are opposed to cutting the pay and benefits of state workers to balance budgets while just 37% are in favor of it. Nowhere is the issue more heated than in the state of Wisconsin. And CBS News correspondent Cynthia Bowers is still in Madison with the latest on this. Cynthia, good morning.

CYNTHIA BOWERS: Good morning, Chris. You know, all the hoopla that's been playing out here has been over a simple budget repair bill. Today the other shoe drops when the Governor presents the real deal, his real budget, with even more drastic cuts. The big question though is will those missing senators bel around to hear it?

[ON-SCREEN HEADLINE: Ultimatum; Wisconsin Gov. Wants Budget Bill Passed Today]

PROTESTORS: Kill the bill!

BOWERS: On Monday, the two-week budget battle between Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, 14 Democratic state senators, and union protesters continued to heat up. And Walker again called for the return of Democrats who have fled the state to stall a budget vote.

SCOTT WALKER: The bottom line is if they do not come home, there are dire consequences.

BOWERS: Consequences, he said, that will include massive layoffs and the loss of $165 million in debt-restructuring savings if his budget repair bill is not passed by today.

PROTESTORS: Scott Walker has got to go!

BOWERS: The bill, which seeks to plug a $3.6 billion budget gap, would limit state union workers rights to collective bargaining, something the Governor insists is necessary. But others argue it isn't ethical. According to the CBS News poll, 60% of Americans oppose taking away the collective bargaining rights of unionized public employees [33% Favor]. After calling Walker's bill 'an assault on unions' two weeks ago, President Obama weighed in again on the issue at the National Governors' Conference yesterday.

BARACK OBAMA: I don't think it does anybody any good when public employees are denigrated or vilified or their rights are infringed upon.

BOWERS: Governor Walker, who didn't attend the conference, says even with the cuts, Wisconsin workers would fair better than federal employees do.

WALKER: What we're offering is actually more generous than what they provide at the federal level.    

[ON-SCREEN HEADLINE: Budget Battles; CBS News Poll: Majority Back Unions]

BOWERS: Yet our poll showed Americans even prefer raising taxes over cutting employee benefits or funding to schools or roads. Since taking office in January, Governor Walker has cut corporate taxes in Wisconsin. Now, Senate Republicans told me late yesterday that they are still galvanized around this budget bill and plan to pass it as soon as those missing Democrats get back. Chris.

WRAGGE: CBS's Cynthia Bowers in Madison, Wisconsin for us this morning. Cynthia, thank you.
                
WALKER: As you can see, the Governor won't budge and those state senate Democrats won't budge either.

ERICA HILL: They're not budging either. A little bit of a standoff there. We'll continue to follow it.

— Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center. You can follow him on Twitter here.

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Word games

Submitted by mandrake on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 1:32pm.

And so you mean that a  Republican party stratigist (eg: Karl Rove) never engaged in word games?

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Woid Games

Submitted by BuffNBone on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 2:07pm.

Is the inference that CBS has ties to the Democrat Party?

"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
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Bear in mind:

Submitted by needle on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 2:25pm.

CBS is in competition with NBC.
 

- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.

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slight difference

Submitted by SouthJersey1953 on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 2:10pm.

"Slight" difference between a Republican Stratigist and a NETWORK NEWS ORGANIZATION....

Surely, even YOU know the difference...

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Aren't they essentially the

Submitted by MrSnuggles on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 2:22pm.

Aren't they essentially the same though?

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+10% Democrat sample It's

Submitted by forest on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 1:34pm.

+10% Democrat sample

It's sample is "adults" rather than "likely voters"

They call collective bargaining a "right" whereas it's actually a special privilege to collude that even federal employees do not have.

The poll is bunk.

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Interestingly,

Submitted by Ashrak on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 1:38pm.

The Wisconsin union members themselves claim to be for the "giveback" because they say they understand that everybody has to "share the pain".

That tells me this CBS poll asked only union members the question. Has to be, or it becomes apparent that one or the other of the things isn't true.  Either the reporting in Wisconsin is errant or the CBS poll is. 

That an individual right exists requires that some policy positions be removed from the table of debate.
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Mr. Drennen

Submitted by Garlock on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 1:49pm.

So while both "public worker" and "government worker" are accurate phrasings, the poll is skewed simply because it doesn't use the more negatively-connotated phrase?

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Take the phrasing, the

Submitted by forest on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 2:49pm.

Take the phrasing, the inaccurate +10 Democrat sampling, and the "adult" sample that tends to favor liberal positions, and you're looking at some substantially skewed results.  They pulled every string available to push the results in the desired direction.

And when an "issue" poll is divided out into individual unfortunate options, they tend to poll poorly even when people acknowledge that something needs to be done.  People generally don't want to take away someone else's "rights", or pay, or benefits.  It's the same reason individual aspects of Obamacare poll well,  while most people don't like it as a whole.  For example, If you ask, sans context, if people are in favor of insurance companies refusing customers due to pre-existing conditions, naturally, respondents will tend toward opposing it.  If you connect the prohibition it to the individual mandate, the results are much different.

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They did weight the results

Submitted by mamabear on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:47am.

They did weight the results by party, so the extra 10 percent democrats shouldn't make that much difference.  You can never guarantee that you get a perfect sample when you call random people, that's why we have statistical methods to help account for sampling bias.

When a man makes up his mind without evidence, no evidence disproving his opinion will change his mind- Robert Heinlein
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"statistical methods" to help account for-"---

Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:34am.

sampling bias; or to help "with" sampling bias?
"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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http://xkcd.com/54/

Submitted by mamabear on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 6:31pm.

http://xkcd.com/54/
When a man makes up his mind without evidence, no evidence disproving his opinion will change his mind- Robert Heinlein
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It seems...

Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 1:53pm.

...that those responding to the poll may have been a little more likely to support the unions than the rest of us may.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/03/01/a-shoddy-new-york-times-poll/

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"A little more," huh?

Submitted by needle on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 2:55pm.

Here are some interesting follow up questions:

In "randomly" [har, har] phoning 984 adults, how did it just so happen that CBS somehow managed to poll 67% more union oriented families than would be expected, and almost 50% more government worker families than would be expected?

Oh, and while we are at it, why should anybody assume that CBS did not jigger the "randomness" of the rest of the people they "randomly" [har, har] phoned (say from their own personal phone directories)?

Why does doesn’t somebody poll the public, in a genuinely random fashion, and determine who actually listens to CBS and who doesn’t?

And among those who do, what is their perception of the world? for example: How many are “truthers”?  How many think Global warming is a crisis issue? How many think concern about the National Debt is overblown and needs to be ignored in order to stimulate the economy?  How many think the Tea Party Movement is significantly racist?  Etc.

- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.

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A See BS/NYT

Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 3:25pm.

poll?  Nothing skewed there, right?  Two of the biased organizations doing work for the DNC, and we're supposed to give it even a benefit of a doubt?  I don' thin so, Lucy.

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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 It doesn't matter what the

Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 3:56pm.

 It doesn't matter what the polls call them, if Gov. Walker doesn't act now and stop his obamasque dithering he will lose this fight. He already has the tools he needs so his posturing is a senseless waste of time. Public opinion will soon swing in flavor of the liberal thugs as the MSM keeps portraying them as underdog. Republicans always fall for this garbage.

Non, je ne regrette rien. "You aren't angry because I might be a racist, you're angry because you know I'm right".
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This gives me an idea

Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Tue, 03/01/2011 - 7:41pm.

In order to get an intelligent sampling, they should ask the question both ways and throw out anybody who says "well that changes things". Do we really need the opinion of somebody who gets distracted by words?

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I like that idea!  If there

Submitted by mamabear on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:45am.

I like that idea!  If there isn't a neutral phrase the poll wouldn't be any better by changing it to "government workers."  You have to figure out a way to get the opinions of people who understand they are the same thing.

To be fair, though, we are all distracted by words.  Hopefully most of us not to such an obvious extent!

When a man makes up his mind without evidence, no evidence disproving his opinion will change his mind- Robert Heinlein
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Even if you un-skew the poll it's 50/50 at best

Submitted by ArrowSmith on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 12:24am.

People should be against the union thugs by 80/20. 50/50 is a DISASTER for America.

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The point is

Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 1:31am.

Walker was elected by his state to do as he is doing.  That the unions send their stooges to WI to raise hell does not in anyway negate that "He Won So Deal with It!" --- sound familiar?

hbnolikeee
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The Stupid Lying Garlock Troll LIES again.

Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:32am.

   Too bad I am in a Garlock mood and I feel like waiting a week or two before I actually post any kind of response. Guess the SLGT is just gonna have to wait.

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Poll manipulation in action

Submitted by yabkpjo on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 11:48am.

This is an easy poll to manipulate - if you ask a random person if they support "taking away rights", more than likely they'll say no even if they have no idea what the context/specifics of the legislation are.

Given all the media airtime given to outrageous statements by Democrats and protesters about Governor Walker supposedly trying to put public workers into sweatshops, it's no wonder that many people have false understandings of what public union collective bargaining really is.

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