CBS’s Greenfield: Is Right-Wing ‘Militancy’ A Dilemma for GOP?

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Reporting for CBS’s Sunday Morning, political analyst Jeff Greenfield wondered about the impact of nationwide ant-Obama protests: "Does this new militancy on the Right pose an opportunity for the Republican Party or create a dilemma?" He fretted over the tone: "Some of it is aimed specifically and virulently at Obama....At his background, at his race, at his agenda."

Greenfield began the segment by highlighting the source of all the "militancy": "Discontent is in the air. You can see it in the signs they carry. Hear it from the most prominent voices on talk radio. All from the Right....And most notably from Glenn Beck, whose radio program and Fox News telecasts draw millions with his apocalyptic visions of where the President is going."Greenfield went on to include South Carolina Congressman Joe Wilson, whom he mistakenly labeled as being from Louisiana: "You even heard it from the floor of the House...In an unprecedented outburst from Louisiana Congressman Joe Wilson."

Later, Greenfield worried about "signs here that show like pictures of Hitler, Stalin, and Obama." One sign showed President Obama as Adolf Hitler, but as NewsBusters earlier reported, that particular sign has been traced back to followers of left-wing radical Lyndon LaRouche. In response to some of the other signs, Protestor Carol Fessler explained to Greenfield: "That comes from a fear...the fear is, you know, if the media’s not doing its job, if government is just taking over every single thing it can and we now have an unfettered liberal – the radical left has gotten control of the process. That’s the fear." Greenfield concluded: "Indeed, that fear has been fed not by politicians but by Fox News pundits."

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The story featured several clips of Glenn Beck criticizing media coverage of the protests: "It can’t be called the mainstream media anymore, because it’s not...it can’t be called the mainstream media anymore, because it’s not...They’re in bed with those in Washington and the special interests and they’re lunatics. Some of them are absolute lunatics." Greenfield’s only response to those charges was to criticize a recent Fox News ad placed in major newspapers: "Indeed, Fox News claimed in full page ads this week that the other networks simply did not cover the protests. In fact, all of them did."

Near the end of the segment, Greenfield got reaction from a reliable source on civility, liberal Democratic Congressman Barney Frank: "I think the really extreme nature of this, the virulence of it, makes it less politically effective...The very anger of it. The racist elements. The irrational elements, the embrace of fiction. The threats. I think that makes it less politically useful." Greenfield added: "Massachusetts Congressman Barney Frank has spent nearly 30 years in the House as a stalwart liberal. He sees real danger for the Republicans in the rise of this ‘mad as hell’ sentiment."

In order to provide balance, Greenfield spoke with Republican Congressman Walter Jones of North Carolina: "I don’t like the – what I’m seeing in many circles. I don’t like this – this resentment. I mean, the way I look at this, Mr. Obama is our president. I want him to do well. I’m an American citizen first." Greenfield explained: "For some Republicans, like 15-year veteran Walter Jones of North Carolina, the intensity on the Right poses a dilemma. Indeed, he was one of only seven Republicans in the House who voted to admonish Joe Wilson for his outburst."

Greenfield then asked Jones: "So if some of your constituents, good solid conservatives, call you up and say you know, Rush is – Rush Limbaugh says you’re wimping out on the Party, or on the cause?" Jones replied: "Well, I serve God not Rush Limbaugh."

Here is a full transcript of the segment:

9:33AM

CHARLES OSGOOD: What to make of all the thunder on the Right of late, on the streets, on the air waves and even in the halls of Congress? Our senior political correspondent Jeff Greenfield has filed this ‘Sunday Journal.’

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN [PROTESTOR, TAX DAY RALLY]: Stop saddling our children with unnecessary debt!

JEFF GREENFIELD: From the tea parties on tax day last April.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN [ATTENDEE, TOWN HALL MEETING]: Where are the people protecting us in government?

GREENFIELD: To the rancorous town halls on health care in August. To the gathering last weekend at the Capitol, discontent is in the air. You can see it in the signs they carry. Hear it from the most prominent voices on talk radio. All from the Right.

RUSH LIMBAUGH: Barack Obama-

GREENFIELD: From Rush Limbaugh.

LIMBAUGH: -is destroying the United States’ economy.

GLENN BECK: Look at this. What do all of these names say?

GREENFIELD: And most notably from Glenn Beck, whose radio program and Fox News telecasts draw millions with his apocalyptic visions of where the President is going.

BECK: Does sacred honor even exist in Washington anymore?

GREENFIELD: You even heard it from the floor of the House.

BARACK OBAMA: The reforms would not apply to those who are here illegally.

JOE WILSON: You lie!

GREENFIELD: In an unprecedented outburst from Louisiana [South Carolina] Congressman Joe Wilson. An outburst that made him an instant hero to some.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN B [PROTESTOR, 9/12 RALLY]: We love Joe.

GREENFIELD: What’s brought these folks to nation’s capital? What’s put them in the streets of dozens of American cities? What’s swelling the ratings for conservative media? And maybe more significant, does this new militancy on the Right pose an opportunity for the Republican Party or create a dilemma? Some of it seems very traditional. An outcry against the government that critics say has grown too big. When this protestor from Memphis, Tennessee declares ‘We Don’t Trust You,’ that’s what she means.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN B [PROTESTOR, 9/12 RALLY]: I think the extreme liberals have taken over.

GREENFIELD: Some of it is aimed specifically and virulently at Obama.

[Signs shows MLK picture next to Obama picture and reads: ‘We Had A Dream, We Got a Nightmare’]

GREENFIELD: At his background, at his race, at his agenda.

[Signs shows Obama as Joker and reads: ‘Stop Lying; I Don’t Want Your Debt; Obama Bin Laden’]

GREENFIELD: Fascist, Communist, both. Those present and former politicians who spoke to the rally, all Republican, assert that this is an insignificant fringe. South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint.

JIM DEMINT: Well this is not really political and it’s certainly not a Republican rally. This is mainstream, the heart of America right now, that’s standing up and speaking out about some things they’re very concerned about.

GREENFIELD: Protester Carol Fessler from Memphis, Tennessee explains it this way. There have been some signs here that show like pictures of Hitler, Stalin, and Obama. [Shows Sign]

CAROL FESSLER [PROTESTOR, 9/12 RALLY]: That comes from a fear. Now, I appreciate that. And fear engenders anger, so. But the fear is, you know, if the media’s not doing its job, if government is just taking over every single thing it can and we now have an unfettered liberal – the radical left has gotten control of the process. That’s the fear.

BECK: You know, I used to call it the mainstream media, and I’ve been thinking for the last few days it can’t be called the mainstream media anymore, because it’s not.

GREENFIELD: Indeed, that fear has been fed not by politicians but by Fox News pundits.

BECK: That’s why I believe it can’t be called the mainstream media anymore, because it’s not.. Because that’s exactly what it is. It is on the fringe. They’re in bed with those in Washington and the special interests and they’re lunatics. Some of them are absolute lunatics.

WOMAN B: Glenn Beck is the one that we want to thank for a lot of this. I listen to Fox News, which gives you both sides. And I think if you turn on some of the other stations that you only get a slanted side, which is the liberal side.

GREENFIELD: Indeed, Fox News claimed in full page ads this week that the other networks simply did not cover the protests. In fact, all of them did.

JOE GAYLORD: The interesting thing about the political culture right now is that while people have access to more and more information, they also can isolate themselves more and more, and get only information that they want to see, and that they want to hear, that reinforces the opinions that they already have.

GREENFIELD: Joe Gaylord has been Newt Gingrich’s key political strategist since Gingrich’s days in the House. He remembers how populist anger in 1994 helped turn the Congress over to the Republicans. Right now he says this anger is not strictly a partisan party matter.

GAYLORD: I wouldn’t confuse the conservative movement and the Republican Party because they’re two different things. The Republican Party is sometimes a vehicle for the conservative movement. But I think what you saw actually on the Mall, and what you saw at the town hall meetings, is a genuine conservative uprising. Sometimes involving Republicans, sometimes not.

BARNEY FRANK: I think the really extreme nature of this, the virulence of it, makes it less politically effective.

GREENFIELD: Massachusetts Congressman Barney Frank has spent nearly 30 years in the House as a stalwart liberal. He sees real danger for the Republicans in the rise of this ‘mad as hell’ sentiment.

FRANK: The very anger of it. The racist elements. The irrational elements, the embrace of fiction. The threats. I think that makes it less politically useful.

GREENFIELD: For some Republicans, like 15-year veteran Walter Jones of North Carolina, the intensity on the Right poses a dilemma. Indeed, he was one of only seven Republicans in the House who voted to admonish Joe Wilson for his outburst.

WALTER JONES: I don’t like the – what I’m seeing in many circles. I don’t like this – this resentment. I mean, the way I look at this, Mr. Obama is our president. I want him to do well. I’m an American citizen first.

GREENFIELD: So if some of your constituents, good solid conservatives, call you up and say you know, Rush is – Rush Limbaugh says you’re wimping out on the Party, or on the cause?

JONES: Well, I serve God not Rush Limbaugh.

GREENFIELD: With midterm elections more than a year away, it’s highly possible that the passions of the summer will have been overtaken by more fundamental factors, the strength or weakness of the economy, the war in Afghanistan. But intensity can itself be a powerful force in politics and the intensity right now seems to be on the Right.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Ayers, Wright, ACORN, Jones...

Why isn't Obama guilty by association? 

JDW

DAILY WAVE

I didn't know ACORN was getting a lot of money

JDW

These are all shocking NEW revelations.. don't you know?

Nevertheless, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... it may still be a pidgeon, Let's wait until after Obama's second term before we dig any deeper please.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

The Ducks

Leftists duck the facts by avoiding facts presented by others and in turn target them. Never do the libs address the issues.  

Ayers, Jones, ACORN, Wright... 

JDW

DAILY WAVE

I didn't know ACORN was getting a lot of money

JDW - indeed. Here's Ayers calling for guerrilla urban warfare

 Principles Schminiciples – New Left Notes, Nov. 21, 1969

[pg. 16] Ayers said ..The essence of the SDS strategy is to build a white, para-military organization designed to carry our guerrilla warfare in the urban areas of America – they are totally committed to revolution.

(;~/ gary

The DNC Wall

JFK and Bubba each enjoyed meeting new Alices. Teddy enjoyed making sandwiches. Spitzer was 'dating' while at the same time organizing a presidential campaign. Murtha likes to build airports, Byrd enjoys creating/naming everything in the state after himself, Reid is a true western developer, Pelosi enjoys making business deals, Conrad and Dodd have want to start a mortgage company, Salazar wants to buy his own rig in Mejico, Baucus hopes to raise the level of health care... 

If you cannot say anything nice about the libs or their organizations, condemn the RNC. 

JDW

DAILY WAVE

I didn't know ACORN was getting a lot of money

Oh, give it up Greenfield.

Oh, give it up Greenfield. This old tact of inciting "fear" of the "radical right" isn't working for you anymore. The only people who believe you are so far to the left, they don't need to hear it in the first place.

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

Greenfield's insight

Jeff Greenfield has helpfully put together a report to inform America that the Obama opposition is really angry.

He's really on top of developing trends, isn't he?

KV,At this point I'm not

KC,

At this point I'm not even asking that they give up trying to destroy conservatives - that'd be too much to ask the neutral media. All I'm asking is that they try something new. 

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

Anything, at this point

If I see one more bubblehead stare into the camera and wonder, "is the opposition, perhaps, racially motivated?" I'm telling you, I'm going to need a warranty on the TV ...

→ No problem KC

According to Obama, you can get insurance for pre-existing conditions.

Just get some insurance on your TV and then shoot it.

A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!

Walter Jones

Walter Jones is just another RINO being used by the Madly Socialist Media! How sweet to say "Well, I serve God not Rush Limbaugh." We don't need this kind of Republican, stabbing a fellow party member in the back. It will be interesting next year to see where this guy gets support!

They can always come up

They can always come up with one to use, can't they? They must breed 'em and keep 'em in storage until they need to pull one out for crap like this. 

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

BIG MEDIA SPEAKS FROM THE MOUNTAIN TOP

Other than his mother and the twat who signs his paycheck, who gives a crap about Jeff Greenfield's opinions?

More relic-media pontification.....

X

Gosh, the Kommiecrats are soooo generous with their helpful hints on how to win the elections

Oh, wait...

I do think its dangerous

I think its dangerous and divisive. Now I know the left were divisive in their tactics, but with the tit for tat rhetoric radio conservatism has adopted, they have carried it even further. I think Beck and Limbaugh are coming closer and closer to encouraging sedition. I don't think its good for the country or good for our democracy.

On this board, you 've had comments with people hinting of taking up arms against the government or dissent.

One post talked of stocking up on ammo and another about exiling dissidents ( and their families) at gunpoint.

 

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

If the "right-wing" was as

If the "right-wing" was as militant as the demagogues of the Left claim, the Dems would be the ones with something to worry about - not the GOP.

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."
  - Thomas Jefferson (right-wing militant)

Translation

Only the left gets to engage in these tactics.

 

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Are You Serious?

Well, are you?  Have you NOT seen or heard the vitriol spewed forth by Olberdouche, Madcow, Chrissy, et al?  I applaud righties like Rush, Beck, etc. for shouting the truth.  America NEEDS to hear it.  America NEEDS it bad right now... 

Signed, Corny McPoo 

"There are 10 types of people in the world:  those who understand binary and those who don't."

Supressing the truth

N-waaaahhs thinks that it's fine for the left to engage in such tactics and wrong for you to call them on it.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

OOOOPS!

You're right...How silly of me... 

Signed, Corny McPoo 

shawn backwards isn't even

shawn backwards isn't even sincere in his "fear". It's just a guise he's adopted to advance his old liberal stuff. 

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

I have no fear :) I'm not

I have no fear :) I'm not the one talking sedition or quoting Jefferson, in support of blood in the streets over the process of law.

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

→ No you're not

You certainly are not talking about sedition.

The last time we had this discussion you demonstrated a profound disability to grasp the meaning of the term, "sedition".

A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!

how soon the Left forget

"I think its dangerous and divisive. Now I know the left were divisive
in their tactics, but with the tit for tat rhetoric radio conservatism
has adopted, they have carried it even further. I think Beck and
Limbaugh are coming closer and closer to encouraging sedition. I don't
think its good for the country or good for our democracy.

On this board, you 've had comments with people hinting of taking up arms against the government or dissent.

One post talked of stocking up on ammo and another about  exiling dissidents ( and their families) at gunpoint."

What side was it that spent years saying they were going to pull themselves, and their families out of America and move elsewhere unless their philosophies and demands were met? 

What side was it that was posting editorials and articles hoping China or Venezuela or even Mexico would invade to force America's policies to change?

WWW.GS2AC.COM. 2nd Amendment Grass Roots Action in the Bay Area, CA. We're not all "Breakfast Cereal" folks here! :)

Thats a little different

What side was it that spent years saying they were going to pull
themselves, and their families out of America and move elsewhere unless
their philosophies and demands were met?  

Threatening to leave in a huff is different than someone asking dissenters to leave at gunpoint, don't ya think? :)  Of course I think the poster was posting out of anger to a particularly gross 9-11 article. But I do think Beck and Limbaugh's shtick its aimed more at encouraging force over law. If I was part of the MSM I'd have a camera in their face 24/7. They would beg for the paparazzi. There'd be no secret sex trips that's for sure.

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

→ Excellent trick

I don't believe Beck and Limbaugh have said anything about running Americans out of the country at gunpoint.

But you link all that together in one paragraph as if they were inextricably interconnected.

ACORN AND Obama are more connected than any loose association you made in that post.

A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!

What they do

 What they do is a racial satire or outright baiting, then present an apocalyptic scenario and then go to commercial break. That's what they do.

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

That sounds like NBC

That sounds like NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, ect.  It seems that they're no more radical than anyone else on TV.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Well they aren't saying

Well, when a white kid was beat up on a school bus, Limbaugh said it was indicative "Obama's America". The Drudge Report made it their headline. When Brandon McClelland was dragged to death in 2008, I don't think the networks blamed in on "Bush's America". Rush and The Drudge Report ignored it, but I guess its because there was no video? Race baiting is bad in any form and the left is assuredly guilty of it. That doesn't absolve Limbaugh or Beck for doing the same.

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

→ Good try

But the left did blame the James Byrd death on Bush's Texas even though the criminals got the death penalty.

Seems liberals are more interested in punishing thought than crime.

A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!

Link please

Who on the left blamed Byrd's death on Bush's Texas? I'm curious to read that.I know the left race baits as well . But that doesn't absolve anyone of race baiting. I still am curious of the left wing voices blaiming the Byrd killing on Bush.

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

→ Kidding, right?

You never saw the NAACP political ad with the chain being dragged behind the pickup truck?

The daughter of Mr. Byrd saying (paraphrase) "When George Bush says he won't pass a hate crimes law, it's like my father getting killed all over again"

A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!

Where did they call it Bush's Texas?

Where did they call it Bush's Texas?

Again, I've already acknowledged the left has a long history of race baiting, and from my experience, more so than the right. How does that absolve Limbaugh and Beck's race baiting?

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

→ nwahs

You might remember from the Bush Gore debates, Bush was asked why, in the wake of the Byrd murder, he didn't support hate crimes legislation in Texas.

Bush replied, with an incongruous smirk, "You know what those guys got?  The death penalty"

I'm sure you can find it in the Bush - Gore debates.

Yes, the questioner definitely aimed at Bush and the State he came from.

I hope we believe all violent crimes are hate crimes.

A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!

nw... Here is just

nw...

Here is just one...there are plenty of other examples if you just google James Byrd+DNC...as I am sure you know full well.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_200011/ai_n8927120/

 

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

Well thats race baiting alright

That is without a doubt race baiting. But it doesn't make Limbaugh's race baiting comments or Beck's race baiting video montages any less of an offense. If you can see the obvious race baiting in that DNC ad, you should be able to see in other cases. I think the left resort to it more than the right ( I've seen it used in the matter of garbage contracts, and I've written about it on this board)), but how can you ignore it when the right does it?

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

nw... You asked for one

nw...

You asked for one example regarding the DNC/left with race baiting ads...I gave you one, then you go on like all leftist do and spin it to include Rush...which was not included in your post I replied to, and you damned well know it.

Pathetic.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

They did say

That when a bunch Rich White Guys raped a Poor Black Woman that it was indicative of Rich White American college students and the suffering Poor Black Woman face in our society today. 

Or have you forgotten the wall to wall coverage of the fake rape charges against the Duke La cross team, coverage, which included several denunciations of Rich White people by such favored commentators as  the honorable Jesse Jackson, that continued until the MSM realized that they were wrong on their supposed belief in the guilt of those innocent players?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

That was one of things

That was one of the things I was thinking about when I said the left race bait also. That doesn't excuse Limbaugh's racism and race baiting. On the situation in Durham, I made several post linking to the site Durham in Wonderland, the site of the New York history teacher (?) that exposed Nifong and the Boston Globe ( I think) article comparing Al Sharpton to David Duke.

I also of course made many post condemning the race baiting by the left regarding the Jena 6 in Louisiana, and garbage contractors using race as an issue over honering garbage contracts in New Orleans. I've written more about race baiting on the left than I ever have about race baiting on the right simply because there is more of it.
None of that means I'm supposed to ignore Limbaugh or Beck's race baiting. If you have the idea I only complain about race baiting on the right, you're just wrong.

http://durhamwonderl...

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Politics is showbiz for ugly people

Bizarro Shawn


That doesn't excuse Limbaugh's racism and race baiting.

And I have yet to see an example of this.  I also know a valid example is not forthcoming.

Yea there a few

The most recent is stating the beating of a white student by a black student is an example of "Obama's America."

The "Moving on up" Jefferson's theme song as the backdrop of appointed African-Americans. 

The Ebonics translations. All satire lampooning not individuals, but blacks as a race. It's satire comparable to the satire the newspaper "National Association for the Advancement of White People" published by David Duke, used in the 80's. 

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

That all you got Bizarro Shawn ?

The most recent is stating the beating of a white student by a black student is an example of "Obama's America."

Link !

The "Moving on up" Jefferson's theme song as the backdrop of appointed African-Americans. 

Describe how this is race baiting?  Come on.  Let's hear it.

The Ebonics translations. 

Of course you don't think he's making fun of the Liberals whose bigotry led to the whole idea of Ebonics because they think African Americans are incapable of learning English?

Actually Free,

Rush did say that "obama's Amerca" line. Of course the backward one here takes it out of context. Rush was simply using the race card against the media. He was absolutely right. The msm, the administration, and the the 0 loyalists are working sooooo hard to make everyone belive the whites are all racists, it comes as no surprise that a white kid gets jumped on a bus of mostly black students. THAT was Rush's point: that if the bus attack was racial, then the administration, the msm, and the talking heads on the left were to blame, because of their race baiting. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

Here ya go

 Obama's America clip

The Jefferson's portray a cardboard cut out black family, created by a white producer ( Norman Lear) in the mid 70's. The opening video showed a stereotypical high stepping black man walking into a building that was at the time, thought to be too upper class for black people. The theme is to relay that image of a stereotypical black person going into a place reserved for white people.

But you know that, you just thought I couldn't explain it.

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

1) Good for you.  A

1) Good for you.  A Liberal did some work for a change around here.  Now, explain how the phrase "Obama's America" is bigoted.

 

2) Now, funny you keep harping on the TV show created by a Liberal.  Watched by Liberals.  Loved by Liberals.

And he was right

You didn't explain it. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

You won't call out a right wing racist

Can you name ONE, give me one single person on the right that you think uses racist rhetoric. I'll give you 5 on the left.

Sharpton

B. Clinton

Rangle

Garofalo

Wright

Name ONE racist on the right. And if you can't you are a hypocrite.

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

Bizarro Shawn

Where are you when we have to get biggots banned from Newsbusters?

Name a right wing pundit or politician

Name one right wing pundit or politician that uses racist rhetoric.

You expect anyone to believe that all the racist rhetoric is used by the left? Its a good thing you're preaching to the choir. Nobody in their right mind would believe you. You can't think of one person on the right that uses racist rhetoric?

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

That's right. Excuse your

That's right.

Excuse your own lack of action here . . . I am sure it makes you feel good about yourself.

Can you admit that you took Rush's comment out of context?

Do that, and maybe we will entertain your challenge. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

→ Who are you?

And what have you done with nwahs?

Honestly, I don't find Bill Clinton all that racist from an overt standpoint.

His observation that Jessie Jackson won the same Primary Obama did was on par with Rush Limbaugh's mockery of Liberals.  I thought it was a clever slap at the liberal mindset although I have to admit to piling onto him for it.

Bottom line?  It was brilliant.

What Bill Clinton did was personify the Great White Protector that every liberal white hopes to be.  And honestly?  They don't see it as racism.

But Bill Clinton did one thing in particular that I salute.  He, with the paperwork offered up from the Gingrich House, kicked out some crutches from people who suddenly realized they could walk.

A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!

" He, with the paperwork

" He, with the paperwork offered up from the Gingrich House, kicked out some crutches from people who suddenly realized they could walk. "

Welfare Reform was repealed in an obscure section of the Porkulus bill.

→ Loser's limp

There are two schools of thought on that issue.

  1. Poverty should be comfortable.
  2. Poverty should not be comfortable.

One's beliefs regarding these statements is a pretty sure separator between political ideologies.

A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!

I already gave you david duke

Definitely right wing, and definitely a racist. I'm sure there are more, but we drum them out so fast, it's hard to remember they were even here. 

Now, work to get byrd removed from office and decry the race baiting by the media, or YOU are the hypocrite. 

And yes, I was involved with getting seejay banned. A proud NB moment for all involved. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

Well I gave you David Duke

But David Duke was a Wallace Democrat until the incursion of Dixiecrats into the Republican party. Duke is in fact a fascist, not a Republican, and he's not even in politic anymore. Think of one national pundit or politician on the right that uses racist rhetoric. I gave you 5 on the left. You could probably name 30 on the left. And I'm expected to believe you can't name one on the right?

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

Keep moving them goalposts

So now they have to be a politician TODAY. You neglected to indicate that in your original challenge. 

As to your challenge, I guess anyone could call Rush a racist, when his words are taken out of context and spewed all over threads, such as you do constantly. You see, the Republican party was created to oppose the anti-civil rights agenda of the democrats. The Republicans were pro-emancipation, and pro-civil rights. Your revisionist history notwithstanding, democrats were against emancipation and civil rights in high numbers throughout. 

So, for you to issue a challenge to name a racist conservative, well it's not that easy. As I have stated, when we run across racists in our midst, either here at NB, or on the national stage, we drum them out. Racism is what the democrats are about, not the Republicans. Get it? 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

You can oppose

One can oppose the "anti-civil rights agenda of the democrats" without making fun of black people. Rush makes fun of blacks because it appeals to his audience.

The reason you can't easily or comfortably name a person who the right that uses racist rhetoric is you are controlled by your ideology, not the other way around. Conservatism is a prize to some people here, and they think the prize can be taken from them if they dissent. Well good luck with that.

Rush realizes that, and uses it as a weapon. He's the keeper of the grail. Conservatism is Rush's cattle prod :) Moooooooooo....

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

backward one

Boy, are you dense. Does Rush make fun of black people? No. Does he make fun of liberals? Yes. Does he make fun of black liberals? Yes. 

You see, he makes fun of the caricatures of blacks the left has made of them. The more "street", the better. The more lewd, the better. The left endorses the theme of "real blackness". As opposed to what, I have no idea. So yes, Rush makes fun of all of this. Just as he does all liberals. 

You like to read his transcripts and tell us what a racist he is, but those of us who listen, know the whole story. It's like reading a play as opposed to watching one. You're only getting half the story, then you come here and take the half you get out of context, and assume this somehow proves you point. It doesn't. I have yet to see you prove one damn point about Rush yet. 

Yes, Rush, as do we all, makes fun of the lefty ideal of what black is. It's not our interpretation of what black is. It's yours. And that makes YOU the racist. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

nwaaaaaah's a jack@ss

Rush makes fun of blacks because it appeals to his audience.

You are a blithering idiot. You do realize that, right? 

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

And I make fun of 'Canes

Just because I can.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Bimbo

I would say something..

...but I wouldn't want Tim Tebow to start balling his eyes out again. 

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Gosh, Rock

What is UM ranked this week?

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Only 2 NC's.. that's cute

Geez, bimbo.. are you gonna start balling too?

May could stimulate the economy by marketing 'Tebow Sob Towels'? 

Btw.. nice thread hijacking there. I hope your sick obsession leads to the psychiatric help that you desperately need.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

God you SCUM's are retarded

That would be 2...in the last 3 years.

And that's just football.

CAN'T SPELL SCUM WITHOUT UM!

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

P.S. Thug....

It's THREE and counting.

How's that season goin' for you, Rock?

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

→ Blonde

Truth be known, (and it is), The Horns would just as soon stay out of Florida until all those teams kill each other. 

Good idea

 marketing 'Tebow Sob Towels'? 

 LSU will be visiting them in a couple of weeks. : ]

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I still have my

LSU one from last year. : ]

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Hey, GC

The Gator Nation views LSU as the most dangerous game of the year.

We have huge respect for all of our SEC brethren, particularly those pesky purple & gold tigers.

You can search the archives, here....but in our "tween year, I was a huge LUS fan, because if my Gators aren't in the hunt....I'm for the SEC, Baby!

As for LSU vs. Bama....I'm going to have to think about that.  Heart says LSU....mind says Bama. 

I'll get back to you, OK?

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

oops, GC

Sorry for the typo.  Sheesh.

I like the Tigers.  But only when they don't play us (or we don't have to go there, LOL).

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Oh My!

Such a typical 'Cane response.

Crickets chirping.

How's that National Championship Hunt goin' for you there, Rock?

Hmmm?

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Your team also must take

Your team also must take ownership of another group of extremists: the Lyndon Larouche Democrats.

backward one

"It's satire comparable to the satire the newspaper "National
Association for the Advancement of White People" published by David
Duke, used in the 80's."

Yeah, and I hear that robert byrd is still that rags biggest subscriber. Guess which one is still revered and elected by democrats. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

→ Apocolyptic?

And somehow, disagreeing with a convoluted healthcare bill is racist?

The only thing meandering about that conclusion is the logic.

Are there no indications from the left that Leftist policies are prone to expensive failure?

Can you explain why Congresspeeps send their kids to Private School?

Can you explain why Congresspeeps won't commit to the same healthcare coverage they want for us?

Conservative voices can point to lots of failed liberal "good intentions" gone awry.

Are we still winning that "War on Poverty"?  Reckon it's time to unfurl that "Mission Accomplished" banner?

A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!

No

 Disagreeing with a convoluted health care bill is not racist. I disagree with the bill myself. Taking a video of a school bus fight involving a white and black kid and describing it as "Obama's America"  is racist.

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

→ See above

It's easy to buy into.  Are you going to claim the refusal by Eric Holder to prosecute the Panthers at a Philly Polling Station was not racially motivated?

What if it were sheets in Birmingham? What if the "Sheets" were not carrying weapons?

A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!

I think they should've been prosecuted

I don't think its clear its racially motivated, but I can certainly understand people suspecting it is. I think they should've been  prosecuted. I also think Holder's comments about Americans being too cowardly to discuss race were irresponsible and don't reflect the the phoniness of the appoach that American media has used to the race issue. We went from segregation to the Mod Squad in about 5 years. There was no honest dialogue. American media were cowards - not Americans.

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

Well your wrong

But I do think Beck and Limbaugh's shtick its aimed more at encouraging force over law

 Again,,,,,,,,,,and naturaly you dont provide any examples.

Even when you provide examples they are so far from your exaggeration and context it is stunning you would even use them.

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

nwahs...

boo!

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The Emperor, he has no clothes

Ah, and what did Greenfield ...

Ah, and what did Greenfield do? Why he injected "race" into the discussion like all liberals do.

Would we have seen the following had the discussion been about Bush? "Does this new militancy on the Left pose an opportunity for the Democratic Party or create a dilemma?" I think not.

And as if the print part of the MSM isn't in the tank for "the one" now, look at what obama appears to be considering: "A possible bail-out of the print media." Should that happen, the print media would be beholdin' to the liberal left forever.

Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It was bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women who are serving and who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.

For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.

Also remember folks, that the way to SUPPORT THE TROOPS is to support their mission. Anyone who says that they support the troops but don't support their mission is lying about supporting the troops. And if you want to know, yes I do have a dog in the fight, he is a United States Marine.

 

It's funny how the media

It's funny how the media never notice the bomb throwers from the left, but when there is anything even questionable from the right, it's PROOF of their 'militancy'..

 

 

BAAAAAARF 

 

 

Hey MSM, why do you ask your fellow lefties how fingers taste?

 

Hypocritical enemies of the Constitution 

A dilemma for the RNC, yes. Conservative GOPers, no.

Sigh!

Jeff-Americans on the right and left-

are upset with the lack of principles by POTUS-this was brought up during the election and no one listened or it was dismissed. however folks have now opened their eyes and it scares the hell out of them. that's why the fever is so high-as you see it-BHO- has been found out to be the wrong guy to answer the phone at 0300.

 

 

 

Dear Jeff Greenfield:

Dear Jeff Greenfield:

Question for ya,

If Right-Wing ‘Militancy’ is a dilemma for the GOP, what's the dilemma for the DEMs when so many in this Right-Wing ‘Militancy’ are DEMOCRATS?

nolotrippen wrote:...

nolotrippen wrote:

Dear Jeff Greenfield:

Question for ya,

If Right-Wing ‘Militancy’ is a dilemma for the GOP, what's the dilemma for the DEMs when so many in this Right-Wing ‘Militancy’ are DEMOCRATS?

here is greenfield's answer:

Jeff Greenfield answered: "............(silence).................."

Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It was bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women who are serving and who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.

For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.

Also remember folks, that the way to SUPPORT THE TROOPS is to support their mission. Anyone who says that they support the troops but don't support their mission is lying about supporting the troops. And if you want to know, yes I do have a dog in the fight, he is a United States Marine.

 

"Indeed, that fear has

"Indeed, that fear has been fed not by politicians but by Fox News pundits."

Nope, I'd say that fear has been fed by the leftist politicians in charge and their misguided proposals. 

Keep crying race, you fools.  You're killing yourselves.   

militant?

I have gained much insight today. I am an uneducated racist Catholic militant from Hicksville. Combine all those factors and I am a dangerous woman. Ok, fear me, I vote.

I gained insight too, cause

I gained insight too, cause we all remember all those frettings by the media about how the left (i.e. the democrap party) would alienate itself from the mainstream and reduce their electoral possibilities by their villifications of Pres Bush and his Administration and the republicans in Congress. Thanks to the media, there were no Bush/hitler/halliburton signs in any ANSWER protests no uncivil language was ever uttered by democrap congress critters or their leftwing supporters. (Yeah right).

oh? :)

 
"I have gained much insight today. I am an uneducated racist Catholic
militant from Hicksville. Combine all those factors and I am a
dangerous woman. Ok, fear me, I vote."

 Do you have firearms and ammo too? Marry me! LOL

you have any idea how hard it is to find single conservative minded, 2nd amendment supporting, self-sufficient straight women of appropriate age around here in CA? I posted a relationship advert once where I dared mention "conservative" and "2nd Amendment" and "likes romatic trips to the rifle range"...

I got so much hate mail you wouldn't believe it.

WWW.GS2AC.COM. 2nd Amendment Grass Roots Action in the Bay Area, CA. We're not all "Breakfast Cereal" folks here! :)

lol

you should save it, it sounds like great book writing material :D

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The Emperor, he has no clothes

undercover

I am too old for ya, but my younger sister lives in San Diego and she screams on the phone every night about the idiots she meets.

All of these leftist

All of these leftist talking heads are in complete fear/panic mode now...it is and has been obvious for at least the last month now...

What they are doing now in desperation is digging a deeper hole for themselves.

Don't ya just love it?

I say keep it up...let the hole you are burying yourselves in grow deeper...I just look forward to the day you are all covered with your won dirt.

Nothing like watching self-destruction.

'Go Green...Recycle Congress'

Back To The Facts

How many colleges has Obama spoken to? Imagine the number of younger voters he is appealing to. As the news media drowns out the facts revealed by the pundits named in this blog, who is discussing the enormous debt Obama et al is attempting to lay on their shoulders? 

JDW

DAILY WAVE

I didn't know ACORN was getting a lot of money

"Right-wing" militancy

Do we pose a dilemma for the GOP? Yes, we do if they ignore us; maintain their inside the beltway elitism; and refuse to return to Conservatism. They need us, we don't need them.

Hmm.....

I thought "Jeff Greenfield" was a Yiddish term for excrement.

Backwards Shawn

 Yes I am stocking up on ammo and will continue to do so as is my RIGHT! The left and MSM are inciting a race war in this country and if you can'tsee that then you have blinders on or just want to remain ignorant of the facts! Have you not heard what these people are saying? (Jimmy Carter,Chris Matthews, Olberman,Cosby, et al) My family comes first but if you come knocking I will let you in as it is the Christian thing to do!

 

 

 

 

 

"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
bribe the people with their own money." – Alexis de Tocqueville

Sounds like someone woke

Sounds like someone woke Greenfield up from his 20 year nap. Too bad. He doesn't make any more sense now than he did before his nap.

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

Not a big jump from "militancy" to "militias"

and not too far from there to the bloodbaths and violations and civil rights abuses characterized by Clinton-era "infiltration" of "right wing white supremacist" groups ending in unnecessary violence at Ruby Ridge, Waco and elsewhere. 

 The Media push to label all critics as "racist" is the other part of a successful assault. They've already got the sheep afraid of the whole gun rights issue already. 

 I've said it before and each week passes my worst fear comes closer to reality: that law-abiding American citizens will die at the hands of Federal forces before Obama leaves offic, disguised as "anti-militia", "anti-white supremacist", "anti-religious extremists", and "anti-domestic terrorist" activities. 

 

WWW.GS2AC.COM. 2nd Amendment Grass Roots Action in the Bay Area, CA. We're not all "Breakfast Cereal" folks here! :)

it's amazing

I go to work, pay my taxes, care for my children, give to charity, bake bread and tend my garden.  But simply by virtue of what I believe in - I get more dangerous everyday.

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The Emperor, he has no clothes

kata

Maybe Sarah Palin will teach you how to hunt (I'd be happy to teach you how to fish and wield a big old scary filet knife).

We conservative women need as much "scary" as we can get.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Blonde

I am actually a decent fisher(person) :)  The cleaning will be "someone else's job" though.  Its shooting I rather stink at.  Actually my husband said last weekend I should probably stick with the shotgun  should I ever be in a life-or-death situation.   Me and the broad side of a barn?  The barn might still have a fighting chance. lol  My 14 yr old son is a far better shot.

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The Emperor, he has no clothes

Mr. Greenfield

From my up close observations of the feelings of those finally speaking out at rallies (tea parties) and with signs that are homemade and not to your liking, leftists have about 6 months to stamp out this movement or it will roll over you.

Leftists (old hippies) finally thought all the years of infiltration into the fields of education, religion, government and finance were about to pay off with the election of their "face man" Obama.

Not going to happen.  You pushed too hard too fast and made the fatal error of dismissing your opponent.

Your opponent is now the working class stiff you used to champion and now you look down upon.  So go ahead and eat your caviar on your toast tips and sip you Dom and in the meantime we will be waiting for you.

All I can remember is the "civility" of the Left's "debate"

here in CA I've seen dozens of "F*CK BUSH" bumper stickers, the usual "Somewhere in Texas a village is missing it's idiot" stickers, "9/11 was an inside job" spraypaint stencils on street signs, and quite a few stickers and flags with "BUSH" where the "S" is replaced by a swastika. 

 most of these can still be found in the parking lot here at the office, or with less than an hour driving around Berzerkeley or SF or any state college campus. The biggest offenders are often staff and faculty.

Real f**king classy there. No incivility at all until Wilson showed up, no sirree, my @ss. Just like there was no violence from Islam until the 60's and after oil exploitation by the West...(b*ll*cks!)

 

WWW.GS2AC.COM. 2nd Amendment Grass Roots Action in the Bay Area, CA. We're not all "Breakfast Cereal" folks here! :)

I would have to say

"And maybe more significant, does this new militancy on the Right pose
an opportunity for the Republican Party or create a dilemma?
"

I would have to say that the "new militancy on the Right " will have about as much effect on America as the "old militancy on the Left ."  In other words, today's "new militants" will be tomorrow's politicians, without the gun battles, bank robberies, and home-made bombs that "old militancy" relied upon to spread their message of "peace."

Today's "militancy" is a lot lot more peaceful, a lot more civil, than in the past. Wouldn't you agree, Mr. Ayers?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

FEAR THE MIGHTY FOX NEWS

FEAR THE MIGHTY FOX NEWS NETWORK! These litttle crybabies are terrified. Getting trounced in the ratings, having their little liberal charades exposed, declining numbers for Dear Leader....no cap and trade, no socialized health care....better hurry up and get those illegals legalized before the next election or it's lights out for the morons in DC.

Ratings

One look at the ratings will tell you what Americans think about Greenfield and the old stream media. They are dinosaurs with 3 feet in the tarpit. Don't change a thing guys, you are sinking fast. Keep telling the people how stupid, racist and uneducated they are. Keep telling the people how much smarter you are than they. People are discovering you are merely elitist, socialist, obnoxious snobs.

              

              Sounds like Soros is signing their paychecks.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             

FINALLY...

...some investigative reporting!  Just keep the Limbagh / Jim Jones cool aid away and things will be a lot better.

             GOP: The Party of McVeigh..