MSNBC: ObamaCare Protesters ‘Racist,’ Including Black Gun-Owner

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UPDATE: The Second Amendment Foundation reacts, Politico.com cites NewsBusters and gets MSNBC response.

On Tuesday, MSNBC’s Contessa Brewer fretted over health care reform protesters legally carrying guns: "A man at a pro-health care reform rally...wore a semiautomatic assault rifle on his shoulder and a pistol on his hip....there are questions about whether this has racial overtones....white people showing up with guns." Brewer failed to mention the man she described was black.

Following Brewer’s report, which occurred on the Morning Meeting program, host Dylan Ratigan and MSNBC pop culture analyst Toure discussed the supposed racism involved in the protests. Toure argued: "...there is tremendous anger in this country about government, the way government seems to be taking over the country, anger about a black person being president....we see these hate groups rising up and this is definitely part of that." Ratigan agreed: "...then they get the variable of a black president on top of all these other things and that’s the move – the cherry on top, if you will, to the accumulated frustration for folks."

Not only did Brewer, Ratigan, and Toure fail to point out the fact that the gun-toting protester that sparked the discussion was black, but the video footage shown of that protester was so edited, that it was impossible to see that he was black. The man appeared at a health care rally outside of President Obama’s speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Phoenix, Arizona.

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The Arizona Republic reported: "A man, who decided not to give his name, was walking around the pro-health care reform rally at Third and Washington streets, with a pistol on his hip and an AR-15 (a semi-automatic assault weapon) on a strap over his shoulder. ‘Because I can do it,’ he said when asked why he was armed. ‘In Arizona, I still have some freedoms.’" A picture accompanying the article showed the man was African-American.

Not being content with portraying all health care reform protesters as racist, Toure went on to predict an attempt on Obama’s life: "I’m not going to be surprised if we see somebody get a chance and take a chance and really try to hurt him or really....we’re going to see somebody, you know, some sort of Squeaky From, some sort of Mark [John] Hinckley figure, because there’s so much anger in the country about him, about what’s going on with government." Ratigan replied: "Angry at government and racism, you put those two together."

Recently, MSNBC host David Shuster similarly saw protesters at health care town hall meetings as a threat to the President’s life, asking Democratic Congressman Jim Moran: "Is this putting our president in some sort of danger because of some wacko that will see this stuff and say, ‘oh, yes, it’s fascism and the way we dealt with Adolf Hitler was to try to kill him, so therefore, let’s do this with our president.’"

At the end of Tuesday’s exchange, Brewer did observe: "Just to put a finer point on this, just because people are worried about the government getting too big and taking power where it should not, does not necessarily correlate to people being racist." Ratigan agreed but argued: "I would say people frustrated with the government raises the overall temperature....you would install a black president at a time when the temperature is higher and you just have a more volatile combination, where people have to behave in a more conscious manner or we’re going to have problems."

Here is a full transcript of the segment:

10:41AM TEASE:

DYLAN RATIGAN: Still to come at the Morning Meeting, protesters packing heat at town hall meetings, it continues to happen. Is this freedom of speech or an implied threat? Even if it is legal? Guns at town hall meetings.

10:45AM SEGMENT:

DYLAN RATIGAN: Alright, guns at town hall rallies, you’re probably familiar. Well, people continue to do it, packing heat at these health care protests. Contessa has the latest. What’s going on?

CONTESSA BREWER: Yeah, we are closely following here, Dylan, town halls and other events around the country today to see who shows up and what they bring with them. More than 20 town halls scheduled from east-to-west, Virginia to Washington state. Yesterday, as President Obama addressed the Veterans of Foreign Wars in Phoenix. A man at a pro-health care reform rally just outside, wore a semiautomatic assault rifle on his shoulder and a pistol on his hip. The Associated Press reports about a dozen people in all at that event were visible carrying firearms. And if the scene looks familiar, that’s because it should, last week a guy stood outside Obama’s health care town hall in Portsmouth, New Hampshire with a gun strapped to his leg and police arrested a 62-year-old before that New Hampshire event for carrying unlicensed loaded gun. And the reason we’re talking about this, a lot of talk here, Dylan, because people feel like, yes, there are Second Amendment rights for sure but also there are questions about whether this has racial overtones. I mean, here you have a man of color in the presidency and white people showing up with guns strapped to their waists or to their legs.

TOURE: It sounds simplistic when you put it that way, but it is real that there is tremendous anger in this country about government, the way government seems to be taking over the country, anger about a black person being president. Just several upheavals in the country over the last ten years from 9/11, to the economic tsunami, to the black man becoming president and, you know, we see these hate groups rising up and this is definitely part of that.

BREWER: So do you – do you think if Barack Obama were white, though, that you would not see people showing up – let’s say if it were Bill Clinton – you would not see people showing up with weapons strapped to their legs?

TOURE: You know, I don’t know. I don’t know. That – I mean-

RATIGAN: I think it’s unknowable. The context-

TOURE: -that’s hard to say. It is unknowable. But you do see a rise in hate group activity throughout the country.

RATIGAN: But I think that the combination of the bank bailout coming through and the conversation where people know that they were stolen from in that. They may not know how, but they know that $14 dollars of American taxpayer money was used and a bunch of people kept the money and know the health insurance thing, they know all the – and then they get the variable of a black president on top of all these other things and that’s the move – the cherry on top, if you will, to the accumulated frustration for folks. I mean that’s-

TOURE: I’m not going to be surprised if we see somebody get a chance and take a chance and really try to hurt him or really-

RATIGAN: Of course.

TOURE: You know, and I mean it’s up to the Secret Service to make sure that it doesn’t actually become history, but, you know, I think we’re going to see somebody, you know, some sort of Squeaky From, some sort of Mark Hinckley figure, because there’s so much anger in the country about him, about what’s going on with government.

RATIGAN: Angry at government and racism, you put those two together.

BREWER: But also because when Democratic presidents take over – I mean, during the Clinton administration, we did see a weapons ban on these semiautomatic assault weapons and did you see people showing up with guns to prove a point? You know-

RATIGAN: No, but the economy was good then and they were, at that point, passing a law that allowed the largest financial ponzi scheme ever in ‘99. So times were good, right? In other words, when people have jobs and people are – feel like they can get rich and the credit is flowing and you’ve got a more comfortable white president, socially-

BREWER: But don’t you think a lot of people are just uncomfortable with guns, too?

RATIGAN: -the temperature is lower.

BREWER: I mean if you show up-

RATIGAN: Of course.

BREWER: A lot of people aren’t exposed to weapons.

TOURE: Look, we can’t separate the mood of the country, which is very uncertain, there’s a lot of tumult going on from there being a black president. And the two things fit and feed each other and so many people are happy about it and feel it’s a new post-racial America and so many people are still mad about a black person, and black people in general, reaching that level.

RATIGAN: And then again, you combine that with the reality of unemployment, the reality of health care, there are all of these sort of frust – real things that are frustrating people who feel the government’s not delivering to them what they feel it should. And then you create this-

TOURE: Look, I mean you can’t separate the health care debate from anger at government in general.

RATIGAN: Of course.

TOURE: We’ve seen these major government moves with the bank bailout, with what happened in Detroit, now here comes a third one. So people, when they talk about socialism, that is a real emotion of government taking over.

RATIGAN: And government taking over at the same time they’re allowing the so-called fat cats in the banks, everybody’s getting away – the status quo is getting away with it and that makes people frustrated, too, and they are.

BREWER: Just to put a finer point on this, just because people are worried about the government getting too big and taking power where it should not, does not necessarily correlate to people being racist. It’s not necessarily because of-

TOURE: Absolutely.

RATIGAN: That’s true, but I would say people frustrated with the government raises the overall temperature.

BREWER: Right.

RATIGAN: Then, totally unrelated, you would install a black president at a time when the temperature is higher and you just have a more volatile combination, where people have to behave in a more conscious manner or we’re going to have problems.

TOURE: I mean, look, there’s no – I mean, you just know that there is a significant swath of the country that is still angry about there being a black person as president and will do whatever they have to do to show their anger.

BREWER: I do.

RATIGAN: But, again, there are different items that come together that can be a bad combination.

TOURE: Yeah.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Another MSNBC classic - ooh, I hope nobody boycotts them

Not disclosing the fact that the gun-toter was a black guy opposed to Obamacare is typical MSNBC...

...but taking it ten steps further by editing/manipulating the video is just beyond reprehensible...it's borderline criminal IMO.

I can't help wondering if

I can't help wondering if all these gun toters suddenly showing up might really be Obamabots posing as "right wing wackos" per the Alinsky playbook as described here:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/08/obamas_nazi_straw_man_an_old_a.html

Idiots

There is also no such thing as a "semi-automatic assault rifle". These morons at MSNBC just talk out of their ass. 

I disagree, on the point

I disagree, on the point about there being no such thing as a semi-automatic assault rifle.  The SKS is my favorite of such weapons, although the AR-15 (civilian version of the M-16) is a very close second.  You can nearly drive nails with a good AR-15.

 The point about MSNBC, however, is well taken.

 **EDIT**

Just on a whim, I looked up the term "assault rifle."

It turns out that you're right, good sir.  An assault rifle, by definition, must be capable of selective fire -- in other words, it must be capable of both fully automatic fire, as well as semi-automatic.  I stand corrected :D

I must disagree - assault weapons/assault rifles

An assault rifle by its very definition is a full automatic rifle. An Assault Weapon is just about any semi-automatic gun. Making the description of a "semi automatic assault rifle" misleading and incorrect. 

 

EDIT: Nevermind, you figured it out. :) Lets let good ol' Contessa know that shes not getting it right. 

http://twitter.com/c...

Reportedly standing withSEIU members entourage

It was reported on radio last night that the AR-15 toter was standing with an entourage of SEIU members and both they abd he seemed comfortable that way.

 

Has he been identified yet?

The ones ...

The ones promoting racism here is MSNBC (which is typical). The fact that this supposed news organization hides the fact that the man is black and then makes the statement about racism shows just how low into the gutter they have gotten.

The MSM have saddled themselves with this president and he has ridden them into the ground and deservedly so.

Two points here:     

1. "We the People" were right about "the one" obama when we said he wasn't qualified to be president. He never did anything as a state senator or a US senator. Well, in the 7 months he's been in office, he hasn't done anything as president. 

2. Obama does not have the best interests of the Country at heart. He is arrogant and self-centered. He is not an honorable man.

Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It was bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women who are serving and who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.

For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.

Also remember folks, that the way to SUPPORT THE TROOPS is to support their mission. Anyone who says that they support the troops but don't support their mission is lying about supporting the troops. And if you want to know, yes I do have a dog in the fight, he is a United States Marine.

 

Blood shooting out of my eyes

I'm conflicted here Kyle as to whether I should thank you for catching this or shake my fist at you for increasing my blood pressure. This is one of the most egregious examples of media bias I've ever come across on this site. Race baiting by so-called journalists. Rotten, lying scoundrels - just like their pals in Congress.

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."

—Margaret Thatcher

Mum... I feel the same as

Mum...

I feel the same as you do regarding all of this...infuriated is a polite word to use regarding all of this...what is sad, they will get away with this...so typical.

Thank God for radio/internet...it is getting around the msm...whether they like it or not.

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

""I’m not going to be

""I’m not going to be surprised if we see somebody get a chance and take
a chance and really try to hurt him"

And if history is any guide, it will likely be a democrat.

Could we conclude from this

Could we conclude from this that they are calling for someone to attempt to hurt the President?  As you noted, the previous attempts on presidents have been by Democrat supporters. 

Just wondering: Did anyone

Just wondering:

  1. Did anyone at MSNBC ever, at any point, wonder what other motives the protesters might have for packing heat at these events?  Such as, I don't know...multiple reports (with video evidence) of violence against conservatives at these events?
  2. Did anyone at MSNBC ever, at any point, report an incident in Eastern Europe in which a grenade was tossed onstage with President Bush?  They were so handy with reports on the Shoe Pitcher, but I found out about the whole grenade incident from a Special Forces guy I know.  Here's the best report I could find.

So far, President Obama's union buds have caused more casualties than any one of these firearms.  Who, exactly, are the wackjobs?

msdnc, lying mfs.

Since the CofC wants to bust on Beck and threaten his sponsors,why don't we NBers send msdnc's sponsors aliite note saying due to their inaccurate lies and reading from the Daily Kos as a reference source, we'll just have to boycott your product unless you pull ads.

Must be a self-loathing

Must be a self-loathing Uncle Tom....

the great divide

Just typifies the divide over the Mississippi. Once you get west of that river the atmosphere changes and people are different. The western mentality is a free one and the dust bunnies from the east don't get it.

When Reagan visited Billings in the early 80's the SS was absolutely a twitter over the presence of gun racks filled with guns in pick-up trucks. It made the same kind of news but out west it is a fact of life.

Now, a .223 is good for driving nails, but not much else so it would have been interesting to talk caliber with that gentleman.

 

what caliber.....

would you think other than a .223 for this guy?  Just wondering, I have a ton of different calibers for different applications, sport, hunting, competition.  Looks like this would be a patrol application to me, which would be ok with a .223.  Cheap, abundant and loud enough.

 

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

freedom of choice, it's a man's right

While the .223 is the caliber of choice for our military it comes up short with barriers: windshields, car bodies, walls and doped up muslims. Bullet weight allows the carry of larger quantities of ammo but other rounds pack more punch without moving up to the .308 or .06. There have been a number of companies vying for an improved drop-in for AR's (6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, 6.8 Remington, .243 come to mind) but none of them have gained significant acceptance. I like the 7.62x39 (some SEALS are using Norinco) but it is an interesting topic and one I think will lead somewhere.

And you can't ignore the fact that the .223 is a darn fine varmint rifle. Think pink mist. http://www.dogbegone.com/video.htm

I agree....

on the 7.62x39, box of 1k for $300 is a good deal for a good enough cartridge that gets the job done. .308 or 30-06 are awesome cartridges, although a bit over kill, pardon the pun, for patrol, unless the person doesn't mind the extra kick and price of ammo. I apologize for the "loaded" question on calibers, it's all a personal preference really.

To get back on topic, this person was a well-dressed, apparently affluent person (most AR-15s = $900 and up), and a patriot, sponsoring USA made fire power.  All things the lefties hate!!  Too bad they couldn't keep up the assault since the person is also obviously not a white supremacist birther unamerican neocon, or what ever else they may make up!

 :-)

 

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

              

                      MSNBC can't get ANY story straight.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

Can't...?

...or WON'T unless it fits their agenda?

The State run media

It's all about what they want the public to think. 90% of the media outlets today are either doing the bidding of the administration because they are affraid of it, or because they ant to anyway.

People who think for themselves and ask questions that are demanded by simple common sense are villified and called radicals and racists.

Throw 'da bums out!

no incumbent re-elected, with very few exceptions!

www.loyaltoliberty.com

well well well...

I'd have to say this is a new low for MSNBC.  That's damn hard to accomplish. 

___________________________________________ 
"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax"  - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15

apparently....

if I'm a minority, it will be blamed on white extremists?  What a development this is!  I should give it a try, after all, I am a Wise Latino Man who obviously comes to better conclusions than a white man, so I should be able to get away with it too!  SWEEET! 

Of course, I'm just kidding.  This bias makes me sick.

 

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

I caught this segment this

I caught this segment this morning, can't believe I did either...matters not, the SRM aren't going to change their tactics/agenda...lies, hypocrisy, bias can stare them in the face and they'll still deny and spin for the agenda...

Problem is ...they are making fools of themselves for all to see.

Thank God for Fox, talk radio and the internet!

NBs goes without saying...   ;-)

Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh

this has nothing to do with race

The only people making this about race are the "journalists" and the Democrats who constantly bring up the fact that President Obama is the first black president and that somehow that fact is the only possible reason for people to disagree with him. They are so out of touch that they don't even realize that this has nothing to do with race. This is about the massive increase in government control and American Citizens rising up in opposition to it. True conservatives are color-blind. It is the liberals and the mainstream media that cannot seem to look beyond the color of a person's skin to their character.  

Who else saw this?

The good people at NewsBusters simply need to ignore MSNBC. Just about everyone else already does.

Guns and alcohol don't mix

Guns and alcohol don't mix just like guns and everyday, average people don't mix...peaceful, unarmed folks don't need to be intimidated by that $hit regardless of their ideologies.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Compose First, Ask Questions Later...

Or, rather, Shoot First, Ask Questions later...?

Man is not free unless government is limited. There's a clear cause and effect here that is a neat and predictable as a law of physics: As government expands, liberty contracts.   -Ronald Regan

sue over "racism" label

we have seen how (white) people can be destroyed in this country by being labelled as a "racist".

 Hopefully, one day soon, somebody will file a defamation suit against some liberal who feels they can sling the term whenever they choose.

If the plantiff gets a judge who is fair (a non-Democrat appointee), he might even win.

 Toby Keith should have done it.

Playing the race card

is pretty easy.  I have an african-american play it on me almost every day.

It gets old, but if I focus on the job performance and the lack of his performance against job tasks and standards, then it's pretty easy to paint him as a racist.  Funny when our boss is african-american and has caught onto the low skills of this twerp and taken him out of his position and put me in his place.  The last time he confronted me for "stealing" his position, I reminded him that if he performed better he would probably still be in the job he was hired for.

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And If It Happens?

  And fools like these saying these stupid comments over and over everyday that someone "IS" going to "KILL OBAMA" are they going to take rersponsable if it happens?

  Some loose cannon (nut) may be watching who may never have had a thought of doing an act like this all of a sudden think it may be cool. I'll be famous, I have a gun, I don't like Obama. I think I will kill him.

 Then Matthews, K.O. and Madcow can say that the right are all evil gun toting racist people. And didn't we tell they were. How anybody can watch this crap and not complain about is so sad.

FWIW

I would not go to an Obamacare protest and wear (legally) a firearm.

I went to a town hall meeting, but I did not shout (legally) at the elected officials.

I went to an April 15th Tea Party rally, but I did not carry a sign (legally) with a swastika.

Even though I wouldn't do those completely legal, 1st and 2nd Amendment guaranteed activities, and I would prefer others did not, I will not denigrate or question the motives of those who do.  Here's my opinion, FWIW.

This is not about health care reform, or government over spending, or the debt and deficits, or the stimulus bill, or cap and trade, or the Bill of Rights, or partisanship, or even about our traditions and history.

This is about the future, the immediate future.  The future of the Republic, what kind of nation it will be, or even, if it will survive. This is about liberty, freedom and liberty.

Taking a brief look at recent history:

How were the PEOPLE who attended the Tea Party rallies treated by the White House, the DNC, elected officials of the federal government, Obama supporters and by the MSM?

How have the PEOPLE who attend town hall meetings been treated by the White House, the DNC, elected officials of the federal government, Obama supporters, the MSM and by union "event security" teams?

How are the PEOPLE who are attending Obamacare protests being treated by the White House, the DNC, elected officials of the federal government, Obama supporters, the MSM, union "event security" teams and by "community organizations?"

With disdain, mockery, scorn, threats, lies, distortions, false accusations and the #1 and #2 on The Hit Parade, Ridicule and Intimidation. I don't believe anyone needs reminders, however, they will be happily supplied upon request.

Ask yourselves, "Why?  Why would all those groups treat PEOPLE, citizens of the US, this way?

Nothing, absolutely nothing will bring retaliation faster than a little success.  Sustained and increased success brings stronger and stronger responses.

The second someone decides not to speak their mind because they're worried about the consequences, freedom is diminished.  The minute someone decides not to peacefully assemble because they're worried about the consequences, liberty is diminished.  The hour someone decides not to exercise their God given rights because they're worried about the consequences, their rights have been forfeited.  The day no one decides to stand up against tyranny.............Hell, you decide.

Here's a hint:

How were the three new Black Panther Party members who menaced Philadelphia voters on election day with nightsticks and racist epithets treated by the White House, the DNC, elected officials of the federal government, Obama supporters, the MSM, the MSM, union "event security" teams, "community organizational, and the Department of Justice?

They had their default judgment reversed and the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ voter intimidation lawsuit against them and the New Black Panther Party dropped. 

Associate Attorney General Thomas J. Perrelli, the No. 3 official in the Obama Justice Department, was consulted and ultimately approved a decision in May to reverse course and drop the civil complaint accusing three members of the New Black Panther Party of intimidating voters in Philadelphia during November’s election.  The civil lawsuit against the NBPP was dismissed because “the facts and the law did not support pursuing the claims,” according to a DOJ spokeswoman.

Rule 1: Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have. [Fear, intimidation]

Rule 2: Never go outside the experience of your people.
The result is confusion, fear, and retreat. [Talkers talk, writers write, bullies bully, leg breakers break legs, etc.]

Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the experience of an opponent. [Cause confusion, fear, and retreat.]

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. [Accuse them of what you're doing]

Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

Rule 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. “If your people aren’t having a ball doing it, there is something very wrong with the tactic.” [see #2]

Rule 7: A tactic that drags on for too long becomes a drag. Commitment may become ritualistic as people turn to other issues.  [Keep your troops fresh and enthused with "change" and keep your opponents confused, off balance and fearful of what's next]

Rule 8: Keep the pressure on. Use different tactics and actions and use all events of the period for your purpose. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this that will cause the opposition to react to your advantage.”

Rule 9: The threat is more terrifying than the thing itself. [Fear, intimidation]

Rule 10: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Avoid being trapped by an opponent or an interviewer who says, “Okay, what would you do?”

Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

According to Alinsky, the main job of the organizer is to bait an opponent into reacting. “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

FWIW,

Ramjet

My letter to

My letter to msnbc:

 

 

Is it any real wonder why the ratings for your channel have tanked so much.  With reporting like this:

 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/08/18/msnbc-no-mention-black-gun-owner-among-racist-protesters

 

its obvious that your reporters or commentators are actively stoking racial tensions.. even when there are no racial tensions.  To promote this story as a testament to how angry and racist people are, this kind of commentary shows people that journalism in this country .. especially on your channel... is dead. 

 

The commentators accused white people of being so angry at obama and his healthcare policy that they were willing to do our president harm. This is just beyond shameful... its truly hateful.  To crop a picture to disguise that the gun carrier was indeed African American, and turn it around to accuse white people of racism, takes commentary and journalism to a new low.  What your kind of media fails to realize over and over again is that the people protesting are protesting a policy by the President that will change their lives, they are not protesting the President himself and are not especially protesting that he is half African American.

 

You should be ashamed of yourselves for denigrating American citizens for exercizing their rights, and accusing them of racism when no racism has been displayed.  Demonizing Americans in this fashion is, in itself, unamerican.  I would expect so much more from a news station, but obvioulsy, I have higher expectations of journalists and commentators than you do. 

 

I have not watched your channel for a long long time, and this kind of commentary proves that I made the right choice.  It also proves that many others have made the same choice. 

MSNBC: the network of and for racists

The people who still flock to MSNBC are neo-racists who need constant confirmation and fortification of their race hatred.

- Relying upon the State Run Media for your information is like relying upon an embezzler for your portfolio management.

Thats unbelievable even for MSNBC

I agree the need to fire the people responsible for this story. They don't belong in news. I'm speechless. A story about racism and they edit out the black people!

I am the mob. Don't tread on me.