Tamron Hall Justifies MSNBC Obsession With Rush Limbaugh

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Tamron Hall, MSNBC MSNBC’s Tamron Hall attempted to justify multiple stories on Rush Limbaugh supposedly comparing Barack Obama to Al Qaeda: "We have a right to cover people who are speaking out...Many people listen to this man, and we have a responsibility to report all sides and you can't try to duck and hide, throw the rock and then hide in the bush."

Hall was responding to criticism by Republican strategist Alex Conant, who, in the 4PM hour on Thursday, pointed out MSNBC’s excessive coverage of Rush: "Well, let me just make an observation. Two weeks ago, Rush Limbaugh challenged this network, MSNBC, to go a whole month without repeating his name, and this is like the fifth segment you guys have had this afternoon talking about Rush-" Hall immediately interrupted: "Oh, you know – okay, that's ridiculous, absolutely. You know, I don't know if you've ever, ever watched Keith Olbermann, who just obliterated Rush Limbaugh on this topic."

The segment with Conant, opposite liberal talk radio host Bill Press, was the third story MSNBC had done on Rush’s comments on Thursday. Hall herself had covered the story only an hour earlier, with liberal blogger Peter Slutsky and conservative Brian Faughnan from Redstate.com. During that segment in the 3PM hour, Hall asked Slutsky: "...do the Republican leadership, conservatives out there, need to speak out against this kind of language? I cannot imagine, you know, if there was a liberal blogger who had compared George W. Bush directly to Al Qaeda or some of the other language that’s coming out recently."

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Apparently Hall forgot that her colleague Keith Olbermann, whom she touted eariler, had claimed that "Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda" in a 2007 interview with Playboy magazine. More recently, last month Olbermann exclaimed that former Vice President Dick Cheney was "as insane as any terrorist." Neither Hall nor any members of Democratic Party ever apologized for such vitriolic rants.

In the 4PM hour segment, Hall continued to angrily reject Conant’s observation: "Stop. Is it right to compare the President of the United States to Al Qaeda? Do not try to call out this network for doing our job...there are people who would use this, perhaps, against the President and against the United States. To say the President of the United States is damaging us or destroying this country like Al Qaeda wanted to."

Earlier in the segment, Hall played a clip of Limbaugh’s comment, made during an interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News that aired Wednesday night: "Can't remember who said this, but, you know, this is something that I thought long and hard about repeating in this interview with you. If Al Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they better hurry, because Obama’s beating them to it." During the second part of the interview with Hannity that was aired Thursday night, Limbaugh revealed the source of that quote: "This is not the America that you and I grew up in. I said earlier, ‘If Al-Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they better hurry, because Obama is beating them to it.’ I read that in a British column. I think it was the UK Telegraph. Now, it resonated with me because this guy is changing the America we've come to know."

Conant explained to Hall: "And when elected – when elected Republicans start saying that, then I'm more than happy to come and debate the merits of those points." Hall replied: "So – so you're telling me Rush Limbaugh means nothing to...Rush Limbaugh means nothing to conservatives and Republicans because he's not elected? I just want to hear you say he means nothing." Conant again pointed out: "I just don't understand how his comments are so relevant that MSNBC spends most of an afternoon covering them." An hour later, Chris Matthews covered the Rush comment on Hardball.

Hall’s co-anchor David Schuster chimed in at the end of the segment: "Well, here’s the fact of the matter, Bill – if Bill Press – if Bill Press said some of the outrageous things about say George W. Bush, or any Republican, that Rush Limbaugh has been saying about Barack Obama, Alex, the Republican Party would be all over him, Fox would be talking about Bill Press nonstop, I promise you." Hall added: "Hey, this is where we work. But I mean we can – if we are doing something wrong – that's what I think is just kind of lame, to say ‘oh, don't talk about us, don't talk about me, let me see if MSNBC’s ratings are fine – he’s got a right to say it, but we have a right to discuss ‘Mr. Bouncy, Bounce.’ [referring to Limbaugh’s CPAC appearance].

Here is the full transcript of the exchange between Hall and Conant:

4:39PM SEGMENT:

TAMRON HALL: It has to do with recent comments by Rush Limbaugh. Let me play what he said, it’s got a lot of people pretty upset.

RUSH LIMBAUGH: Can't remember who said this, but, you know, this is something that I thought long and hard about repeating in this interview with you. If Al Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they better hurry, because Obama’s beating them to it.

HALL: Alex, I’ll let you get in on this first.

ALEX CONANT: Well, let me just make an observation. Two weeks ago, Rush Limbaugh challenged this network, MSNBC, to go a whole month without repeating his name, and this is like the fifth segment you guys have had this afternoon talking about Rush-

HALL: Oh, you know – okay, that's ridiculous, absolutely. You know, I don't know if you've ever, ever watched Keith Olbermann, who just obliterated Rush Limbaugh on this topic.

CONANT: Yeah, that’s my point, that’s my point.

HALL: We have a right to cover people who are speaking out. This has nothing to do with this network. You tell me now if it is right-

CONANT: No, no, no-

HALL: Stop. Is it right to compare the President of the United States to Al Qaeda? Do not try to call out this network for doing our job. Many people listen to this man, and we have a responsibility to report all sides and you can't try to duck and hide, throw the rock and then hide in the bush. So give it to us straight. Is he right or not?

CONANT: Let me answer the question. Rush Limbaugh has not been elected to anything. He doesn't have the power to tax people. He doesn't have the power to send people to war. I don't understand how his comments are so relevant-

HALL: You're not going to answer. Bill, what do you think?

BILL PRESS: Some of the Republicans have had the balls to say it, and most of them won't. He's an entertainer, okay. He just says anything he can to get better ratings and to get more publicity. But listen, I got to tell you, I don’t work-

CONANT: That’s the question, why are we debating it?

PRESS: I want to say this, I don’t want to work for – I don't work for MSNBC. I used to at one time, but if Rush – if Rush would just shut up and stop saying these outrageous things, nobody would be reporting it. And it's not just MSNBC. I read it on Huffington Post. I saw it on the Drudge Report.

CONANT: Exactly.

HALL: But doesn't he have a right to say what he wants and then we offer it up as a part of conversation because there are people who would use this, perhaps, against the President and against the United States. To say the President of the United States is damaging us or destroying this country like Al Qaeda wanted to. Alex?

CONANT: And when elected – when elected Republicans start saying that, then I'm more than happy to come and debate the merits of those points.

PRESS: Hey, hey Tamron-

HALL: So – so you're telling me Rush Limbaugh means nothing to-

CONANT: I don’t understand how it is relevant-

HALL: Rush Limbaugh means nothing to conservatives and Republicans because he's not elected? I just want to hear you say he means nothing.

CONANT: I just don't understand how his comments are so relevant that MSNBC spends most of an afternoon covering them.

PRESS: Hey Tamron, you know what this points out? This points out the total void of leadership, the vacuum of leadership in the Republican Party. They don't have anybody who can speak for them. They’ve got a bunch of cowards across the street and so it is Rush Limbaugh.

SCHUSTER: Well, here’s the fact of the matter, Bill – if Bill Press – if Bill Press said some of the outrageous things about say George W. Bush, or any Republican, that Rush Limbaugh has been saying about Barack Obama, Alex, the Republican Party would be all over him, Fox would be talking about Bill Press nonstop, I promise you. [Hall laughs].

PRESS: And so would MSNBC. And so would MSNBC.

CONANT: Not sure it would be any more relevant than Rush Limbaugh's comments.

HALL: Okay.

PRESS: He's irrelevant. Let's all accept it. Rush Limbaugh is irrelevant. Yeah, well then why doesn't the Republican Party get another leader? You don't have anybody.

SCHUSTER: Bill Press, Alex Conant, thank you both very much, great conversation. We appreciate it. Tamron, that was pretty feisty. Good work.

HALL: Hey, this is where we work. But I mean we can – if we are doing something wrong – that's what I think is just kind of lame, to say ‘oh, don't talk about us, don't talk about me, let me see if MSNBC’s ratings are fine – he’s got a right to say it, but we have a right to discuss ‘Mr. Bouncy, Bounce.’

SCHUSTER: Yeah, especially when he's got whatever 20 million – 20 millions listeners a day, or whatever he claims. It's hard to ignore somebody’s who’s got that kind of audience.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Why not just declare MSNBC a

Why not just declare MSNBC a Republican Free Zone and leave the nasty brats to talk just amongst themselves? These little-known Republican strategists and consultants, who seem to be the only ones left willing to appear on the channel, are just fodder for the liberal pirhanas.

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

yes

they are just fodder.  it's easy to decimate anyone with the backwards, regressive outlook that the rush/cheney conservatives espouse.  not msnbc's fault that conswervatives can't figure out how to make their ideas not sound like they come out of the stone age.  

and as far as rush, fox ratings, etc, no one on this site seems to realize that comparing the ratings of entertainment shows and news shows is like comparing apples to oranges.  people like entertainment.  i would compare rush to a top forty station, a popular bubblegum pop station.  can fox compete with american idol?  no.  they leave the news to the adults and focus on 'personalities' and relentless opinion giving.  which is fine, until it is confused for news.    

and btw, who thinks that obamas speech in egypt took more balls than the shrub ever showed in all his ok corral cowboy speeches?  yeah, everyone, thats what i thought.  thank god our president is a leader.  he might be doing some things i disagree with, but the man has cojones, personality, intelligence and backbone that we havent seen since your idol reagan was in office.

ddd... Well once again... a

ddd...

Well once again... a real special post your bring to us...and once again, full of pure bull.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

What a tiresomely pathetic

What a tiresomely pathetic post.  

Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."

dr_devil_dog

Your a real power house intellect there. Compare Rush to Air America. Same gender of entertainment. Compare FOX news to CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC or ABC. Same there. Rush and FOX win hands down. Your problem, and the problem with most liberals is you dont think. Or is that wont? You try to confuse the issues with non relating tid bits and think you pulled a good one. When in truth, all you have done is made an idiot out of yourself.

Anyone that thinks it takes courage to tell the middle east that they are right, is a moron. And that is what Obama did. Told the middle east countries they were right and we and Israel are wrong.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

How about a game on NB's called troll elimination idol?

Or a segment where we vote for the most idiotic troll of the week and display it under a thread of its own?  You know... the troll gets special recognition with his name for assinine troll of the week with his quote that helped get him/her there.  That could make having all of these kooks here on NB's fun!

 

tired of liberal lies who

tired of liberal lies

who thinks that obamas speech in egypt took more balls than the shrub ever showed in all his ok corral cowboy speeches?  yeah, everyone, thats what i thought.

 

If a speach about Obama (50+ times he used the words me my myself I ect) by Obama took balls then I'll concede he has balls.

 

Fairly obviouse where you get your news from

 i would compare rush to a top forty station, a popular bubblegum pop station.  can fox compete with american idol?

 Pretty foolish comparison, even for you.

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

dr, devil - what a nice name

Thanks a lot. Reading your reply to my comment is like discovering dog doo on the sole of my shoe. The good news is, with a few wipes of the other comments against you - just like dog doo, you disappear, leaving only a faintly unpleasant lingering odor.

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

"I cannot imagine, you

"I cannot imagine, you know, if there was a liberal blogger who
had compared George W. Bush directly to Al Qaeda or some of the other
language that’s coming out recently."

Hello?? Where has Hall been the last 9 years? Hall needs to wake up. But then it's the Shuster show so fools are expected to be interviewed.

 

DumbAssity of Dope"

When I think about it.

We remember 9/11 as a killing event.

The goal was to cripple the markets, wall Street and financial business.

 

Obama is trying the same thing.  How does Obamas endeavor to get people laid off compared to layoffs after 9/11????

How quickly they re write history. 

 

Al Qaeda?

Nah.. liberals were busy comparing Bush to Hitler. So, nice try there Hall you stupid twit!

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

"We have a right to cover

"We have a right to cover people who are speaking out..."

You're not covering him, you're lying about him.

 

She is racist

Her racist posturing does come out clearly.

It would seem

 Lies are in the eye of the beholder.

I didn't leave the Republican party, they kicked me out.

Man you are unhinged about Rush Limbaugh, NWAHS.

The word obsession comes to mind.

Pah... Insane

Pah...

Insane obsession...wonder if he's really Olbermann.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Yah know... hmmmm that could very well be!

lol

get a room

yuk, get a room

I didn't leave the Republican party, they kicked me out.

Sorry, backwards Shawn,

Sorry, backwards Shawn, lies are most definitely NOT in the eye of the beholder. 

Whether something is true or false is determined by the facts, not by opinion. 

Your bye line sayes that

Your bye line sayes that well.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

But isn't this a good thing?

Where else can radio conservatism get so much publicity? This is a good thing. It brings radio conservatism to people who don't normally tune into it. Definitely nothing to whine about.

I didn't leave the Republican party, they kicked me out.

Hall = another lib diversity hire posing as a "journalist"

HALL: "I cannot imagine, you know, if there was a liberal blogger who had compared George W. Bush directly to Al Qaeda or some of the other language that’s coming out recently."

Is she kidding? Where were all the Democrats condemning the millions of Bush = Hitler, Bush = Satan, Bush = chimp references?

What Planet

What Planet have these people been living on?  Bush was SAVAGED by Democrat Senators, on the floor, let alone what the media said and implied.. Do their viewers really think this is out of line compared to what was said about Bush???  Total reality breakdown on Msnbc.

You just had to go

You just had to go to Huffpo or Daily Kos any day of the week for 8 solid years and even after Obamas Inauguration to see Bush, Cheney, and other Republicans savaged by left wing bloggers.  

msdnc, tamrin and shyster

Shyster"20 million or whatever he claims", isn't that verified by arbitron ratings, lessthanshitforbrains? Ratings, you know, what YOU DIDN"T GET at 1600 only to be replaced by that tanking boob Mr. Ed,jerk.No, David, Fox News wouldn't be talking about Bill(who) Press no matter what he says.Rush audience EXCEEDS the total prime time audience of msdnc for the whole week but you're Mr. Communoications. You're a joke, and not a very funnny one you pathetic LOSER.Rush should buy the station and put us out of our misery. Tamrin, no none of your lefty friends EVER said things nasty about President Bush. Hell, they just wrote books and plays about his assassination, no biggie, right you dumb bitch.  Also, didn't your MoveOn pals morph President Bush into Hitler? No offense meant there, right? Such a hard hitting journalist(teleprompter reader) you are.

East tennessee

ROFLMAO!

Thanks! A bit over the edge but right on the mark.

What is humorous to me

What is humorous to me about all of this is Rush is so over anybody's head at msnbc it's comical.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Agreed

I agree. It's a lot like a liberal 'reporter' quoting scripture to prove a point. If you haven't read it in context and thought about it, you only look like the fool you are. They don't get religion, Rush, or have any idea why someone might want to own a gun. And you can't explain anything to a closed-minded idiot so they never will understand.

The point is that MSNBC

The point is that MSNBC doesn't cover the crazy things that left wingers say, partly because the whole network is filled with left wingers.  They can't stop covering Rush, because they don't believe that any criticism of Obama should exist.  They also can't stand the fact that no one on the left, whether it's a person on tv or radio is nearly as successful as Rush is.  If we are experiencing such a surge in liberalism, how come there isn't one big liberal radio personality, and why  is MSNBC getting killed by Fox News.  Rush compared the destruction that Obama is doing to America to what Al Qaeda are capable of doing.  Rush was accurate in his comparison.  Finally, shame on any republican who goes on MSNBC.

Here! Here!

Finally, shame on any republican who goes on MSNBC.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Keith Olbermann said that

Keith Olbermann said that Dick Cheney is as insane as any terrorist:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/05/22/olbermann-calls-cheney-insane-any-terrorist

I see your point

I see your point about Republicans going on MSNBC or CNN or even NBC. That was my initial thought, too, but if they can't find a bonafide conservative to put on the air, they may begin inventing them and using shills to make Republicans look as bad as they want. Better to at least try to make a point and take a stand, even if they talk over you and openly mock your ideals. Occasionally some viewer may notice the disparity in attitude and actually begin to think for a change.

Hey Tamron!

Google BushHitler just to see how many time President George Bush was compared to Hitler. I dare you!

How about doing a real story about something important like the government takeover of private business. I'd like to compare Obama to Chavez in Venezuela. The current actions by the President and his "Czars" sure appear to parallel Third World tin horn dictators actions as they take over control of the primary functions of their countries.

Yahoo!

Got me 27,800,000 hits.

But, 'obama hitler' got me 32,900,000 hits! So, does that mean Obama is more Hitler than Bush?

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

You get the same reaction

Criticizing Obama, you get the same reaction out of liberals who are in love with him as you would from a friend if you told them that their fiancee was no good for them. It's a thankless job where the messsenger gets shot.

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

The only things

The only things that Keith Olburmann has obliterated were honesty and integrity and that happened long ago. The British and Canadian press has a much more objective view of Obama and the destruction he is causing the U.S. economy since they don't hobnob with the administration on a daily basis. Absence from Washington doesn't make the heart fonder, but it does make the eye clearer and the mind more lucid. 

British and Canadian?

Hey, Pravda has a better, objective view of the 0 than anyone in the pantheon of MSNBC, NBC,(both GE owned, and GE's CEO is an economic advisor to the 0), CBS, ABC, CNN or any other network not known as FOX>.

Don't forget, Immelt, PMSDNC and NBC went in the tank of 0 long before the coronation.  The other networks were just a tad too slow, that must be why Brian Williams got to do his slobberfest with the 0.

tired of liberal

tired of liberal lies

President Pantywaist-British press (shhhh, don't tell msnbc they'll have a heart attack)

They know Conservatives

They know Conservatives will never take to the streets to do some big time protesting.  They could throw Rush in chains tomorrow and what the hell would anybody do about it?  Nothing.

That's the sole realm of the Hippies, Anarchists, stirred up minorities and Communists.

They also figure that the guilt trip groundwork laid down in our society over the last 50 years has made it so that few people will actually publicly stick up for or say they agree with Rush.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

RR.. Points well

RR..

Points well made.

There are more that 50% who won't speak out against Rush either.

Unfortunately, I feel you are correct about people at the realm we are at now in this country...I just don't know what is going to happen, but if 2010 mid-terms don't help, and whatever else goes on before 2012, the kettle brewing is going to need some release for all that steam.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

BT-Thanks! Personally,

BT-Thanks!

Personally, I'm skeptical about the 2010 elections.  People are going to increasingly look for government handouts as they lose their jobs, have less money due to exorbitant taxes, and less spending power due to inflation.  Even if Republicans do get elected, most of them will be RINOs so may as well be Dems.

The paradox is that as capitalism is eroded by the Communists, there are fewer alternatives for people seeking a way to make a living.  They'll have to be beholden to the government.  That is, the ideology that actually offers opportunity is being destroyed in the guise of offering opportunity-emanating from the Politburo of course.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

I have faith

In American individualism, I think liberals underestimate it all of the time.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

A lack of action

 "They know Conservatives will never take to the streets to do some big
time protesting.  They could throw Rush in chains tomorrow and what the
hell would anybody do about it?  Nothing."

A lack of action seems to be modern conservatism's hallmark. So what conservative candidate is coming down the pike?

none.

How have conservatives regrouped?

they haven't.

What have conservatives done but whine since November 08?

nothing.

What did conservatives do before November 08?

nothing

There's your problem.

Politically, conservatives are extremely lazy .

Oh there was the tea parties. What did that do? Is there anything tangible from those tea parties, anything observable to judge if they were a major impact or and insignificant impact?

Sounds like New Orleans. When things are in shambles we have parades instead of tea parties. We're not fixing anything either.But the get together was just grand!

I didn't leave the Republican party, they kicked me out.

If you're such

If you're such a conservative nw..what do you suggest the conservatives do to remedy the situation...eh?

I want your solutions.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

→ He's not, bt

Did you notice he says "that's your problem"?

He didn't get kicked out of the Republican Party any more than Teddy Kennedy did.

"The Rule of Law is the only thing that separates us from Democrats" - a Firefighter

LOL RO... I know that

LOL RO...

I know that full well, been going back and forth with him over time from day one...just wanted to see what his answers are, since he is always playing games.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

The same thing I suggested 1 year ago

 Coalition. Conservatives have no coalition. So basically YOU ( you lazy, don't invest or get off your arse,  let the radio do the work, "conservatives") have to find those you can work with to create a force. Your 17% of purists is not going to win an election.And lately all the purists seem to want to do is say "I'm much better than you" and whine about the Democrat controlled country. Its Democrat controlled because You ( you don't get of your arse and do anything radio conservatives) have some bizarre notion that the world will come around and get you, understand you. They won't. They don't care about your damn purity. They don't care about your Reagan nor your Buckley legacy.

But there are a significant number that do seek less government control over their lives. There are significant numbers that do seek a strong posture in the world  instead of an apologetic posture. But you (you lazy, proselytizing, don't get off your ass, radio conservatives) want to validate them.

YOU need coalition, not litmus tests. But you don't know how. Somewhere down the line, you've started feeling entitled.

Now call me a troll and go lose the next election.

I didn't leave the Republican party, they kicked me out.

nw... LMAO...it took you

nw...

LMAO...it took you that long to come up with that tripe in response to my question to you.

Pathetic

Btw sweetheart...you don't know what I do or don't do at all.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

You don't do or say ANYTHING

You pretty much clap or whine.

BTW, miss astute , what recent article did the Reagan vs Buckley legacy refer to? You don't know. You're playing a social chat game.

I didn't leave the Republican party, they kicked me out.

nw... As ususal...another

nw...

As ususal...another leftist who doesn't pay attention.

Poor baby.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I would say your absense of knowledge

Would put you in the Rio Linda crowd.

Again, Miss astute. What VERY recent article did the Reagan vs Buckley legacy, refer to? You can't answer because you don't know.

Because you don't know, you call me a liberal. Thats your get out of jail free card eh? And you want to purge me from the party - we are without a doubt, damned .

You're not conservative, you're narcissistic.

I didn't leave the Republican party, they kicked me out.

nw... You conveniently

nw...

You conveniently edited your above post since I replied.

Nevertheless...as my friend Andrew says...

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Would you point out

Other than insults, would you point out an idea you've lent to this discussion? I'll tell you what , point to ANY post of yours with an idea. I'm serious, YOU are the problem with conservatism. Anti-intellectualism. What do you do, sit on your couch and judge others to change the world? What are YOUR ideas?  Do you have any, because I'm not reading them. You have a cool name, can you back it up BigTimer? Give me a big time idea, and "typical liberal" is not a big time idea.

I didn't leave the Republican party, they kicked me out.

I've posted plenty of my

I've posted plenty of my thoughts, opinions, etc over the years here shawn, I don't need you deciding what I have and haven't contributed.

You are a light-weight and not fooling all you know.

When I got you good about Rush...who ignored who...eh?

For days.

...I find you more than amusing...especially on a slow Saturday afternoon.

You still never answered what you want all of us conservatives to do beside form a coalition...I know where you were and are going with this, I'm not playing your leftist trolling game either...

Others can, you are boring me...you're just a dumbed down leftist troll, plenty of you here and always will be, some of you just get to stay here too long in my opinion. 

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Yea, go make your bigtime connections

Insults will never pass as an idea.I don't care what you think, or know that you do.

"some of you just get to stay here too long in my opinion. "

 Lookie there, another subtle call for a fairness doctrine from a "conservative."

I didn't leave the Republican party, they kicked me out.

This is a private site. Not Gov't. NWAHS. Guess you did not

know that. 

It has become clear to many here that you are a nutcase when it comes to conservative talk radio.  Frankly, I loved the way you ran away like a lil' baby when I nailed your sorry *ss to the wall with your hatefull rants against RL.  

Yeah, goofballs you said...  God have mercy on such a duplicate jackass like you. 

Perhaps Shawn 228 will hang with likes of you.

 

Hi Nwahs.

Wow wha happened? BT was always one of your biggest defenders. You and Pop Tech. Looks like your in good company :-)

Lol just kidding. Nwahs my opinion is that It is extremely frustrating for the Republican party right. now. They have many members in it  similar to you, that do not agree with Rush Limbaugh, and they are frustrated as heck. They don't like being called RINO's and hard core conservatives are calling for a new party to be formed.

Hard core conservatives do  not want to go any more toward the middle. They know there is no way unless something drastic happens, like a terrorist attack or the economy in shambles, they do not have the numbers to beat the democratic party.

Its not because people love the democrats their approval rating is abysmal. The thing is, what is more pathetic? A 18 percent approval rating or losing 8 senate seats and over 20 in the house to a majority with a 18 percent approval rating?

They know this deep down and some feel sessesion might be the only alternative. The election is still a ways away and if the party can be united instead of all the bickering they might have a chance in 2010

He had my vote

This is what grates me

This is something that bugs me to no end. Someone like David Frum will put up a site that has a different perspective for the Republican party. Now this guy is not a troll. He's written numerous books and a couple of best sellers concerning the right wing /conservative party of America. He was Presidential speech writer. He wrote "axis of evil."

Yet more "conservatives" on this site know whats on MSNBC's site than what  is on his site. Frum is a RINO! So they read Olbermann instead of Frum . How ridiculous is that?

Anyway, an author on Frum's site wrote a very good article comparing the legacies of Reagan and Buckley. Bigtimer, the keeper of the conservative gate must have missed it. Yet she is fully credentialed to chastise me for reading that instead of Olbermann's nonsense. What a very weird world conservatives find themselves in.

I didn't leave the Republican party, they kicked me out.

NWAHS

Whatever. You still have not answered BT's question. What "coalition" is your reference? As a fiscal conservative and social slightly right of center myself, (I don't care if states legalize gay marriage or abortion, those can and should be dealt with on the local level), I have to wonder if you think conservatives should be in bed with the pro-abortion, pro-homo crowd. For what? Votes. That is not the end game here. 

The fact of the matter is that true conservative ideals are not being presented to the public. That is why this site exists. You want to give in to rigged game. We want the game to be played fair. 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Hi Restless

I would not say allowing people that are pro choice and pro gay marriage into your party is being bed with them. It is more of a platonic relashionship of convenience. Obviously not all people that voted for the Democrats are pro  gay marriage, Prop 8 proves that.

As important gay marriage and pro choice are to libs, they did not make them big issues during the 08 platform

He had my vote

Ah but

You would then have conservative sell out their beliefs for votes. There is no middle ground re. abortion on the left. Conservatives have, for the most part, agreed that in rare circumstances where there is rape or the mother's life is in danger, that abortion is an option. Most on the right are vehemently opposed to abortion as a prophylactic, with good reason. Why should a baby be penalized for the bad decions of two consenting, living beings? 

When it comes to homosexuality, even the hint that there might be something wrong with gays is met with accusations of "homophobia". Ridiculous. There just might be a physical reason why some are born gay, but any research on this is cut off by the left. By that reasoning, we should cease cancer research because some are predisposed to the disease, so why fight it. 

You would have us sell our souls for votes. Again, that is not the be all end all. If given fair treatment by the MSM, our views would garner all the votes necessary. We should not sell out just because our message is stifled. 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

RESTLESS

Good one!

I just lost a gay friend (well, didn't really know him) on facebook because I apparently did a no-no and clicked this public "what would be your vote on gay marriage" and clicked "NO", with a comment to try and explain that this is strictly my concern about the institution being redefined.

Alas, he and another liberal friend ganged up on me and some conservatives, wheeling out every name to use on us -- intolerant, ignorant fools, bigots, pigs, etc..

They know I'm a pretty down-the-line conservative, but I'm some fringe, "staunch" element in their eyes that needs to be marginalized and belittled, it seems.

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

Mr. Shy

First of all, congrats on the success musically. I'm glad to see a NB'er doing well, (especially in entertainment).

Second, that's the whole thing. The left wants to mandate, through whatever means, the law of the land. I just want to get back to the Constitution and have these things hashed out state by state. The states that make the right decisions will prosper. The states that don't will learn from those that do. I'm tired of every little thing being a SCOTUS concern. Most should not even be heard. 

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008