CBS: McCain Losing Because of Attack Ads & Palin Pick

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Poll Numbers, CBS Wednesday’s CBS Early Show began to declare the presidential race over as co-host Julie Chen touted new CBS News/New York Times poll numbers and proclaimed: "Obama surge. As the candidates head to the final showdown, Barack Obama opens up a 14-point lead. Can John McCain turn his campaign around in the final debate?" Co-host Harry Smith followed up with: "A lot of people say this is John McCain's last chance to really make a difference with just what -- two weeks and several days before the election." Correspondent Jeff Glor reported: "For 90 minutes, John McCain and Barack Obama will be sitting only four feet away from each other, which is about the only thing that's close about this race right now."

Glor later pinpointed the reason for McCain’s fall in the polls: "...independents, where there's been a shocking shift in the span of just one week, Obama turned a ten-point deficit into an 18-point lead. 21% of voters say they've changed their opinion of John McCain for the worse, citing the campaign's reliance on negative attacks and the selection of Sarah Palin as a running mate." At the top of the 8AM half hour, co-host Russ Mitchell reiterated that point in a news brief: "Meanwhile, it appears McCain may have hurt himself. 21% of voters say their opinion of McCain soured over the past few weeks because of negative attacks on Obama and his choice of Sarah Palin as running mate."

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The Early Show used the same "surge" language to describe Obama leading by only five points in September’s CBS News/New York Times poll. A CBS News poll from the first week in October only had Obama leading by three, not even close to the 14-point lead described in this week’s poll. Such a sudden wild swing in Obama’s favor would appear to be an exaggerated result.

Following Glor’s report, Smith talked to McCain advisor Nicolle Wallace and Obama communications director Robert Gibbs about the poll numbers and the upcoming debate. Gibbs was on the same page as CBS as he quoted from the poll: "But I think the most illuminating number which you see, which is 60, more than 60% of the people think John McCain is more interested in attacking Barack Obama than in talking about what he'd do as president." The poll question asked was: "What do you think John McCain has been spending more time doing in his campaign -- explaining what he would do as president or attacking Barack Obama?" 61% said "attacking" and 31% said "explaining."

Later, Smith asked both of them "Bob Schieffer questions" that might be asked in the final debate. Smith’s question about Obama: "Considering your lack of experience Barack Obama, how have you been tested that proves you're ready to become President of the United States?" Smith’s question about McCain: "Admittedly, the economy is not your strong suit, Senator McCain, with the economy in the worst economic crisis since the great depression, why should we trust you to get us out of this?" It is interesting to note that the Obama question would allow the candidate to "prove" he’s been "tested," while the McCain question wonders why people should "trust" him given his lack of economic knowledge.

After the discussion with Wallace and Gibbs, Smith turned to CBS pollster Kathleen Frankovic and asked: "Alright so, first things first, with a giant lead now, double digit lead, first time we've seen in this election cycle. Is it insurmountable? Could that lead collapse?" Frankovic cited some historical examples of electoral comebacks, but added: "And I should note, that this was a really bad weekend to be a member of the president's party, after the stock market crash." Smith and Frankovic then proceeded to describe Obama winning in numerous different states based on the latest polls.

Here is the full transcript of both segments:

7:00AM TEASE:

JULIE CHEN: Obama surge. As the candidates head to the final showdown, Barack Obama opens up a 14-point lead. Can John McCain turn his campaign around in the final debate?

7:01AM TEASE:

HARRY SMITH: And the last debate is tonight. Our own Bob Schieffer is going to be moderating. It's right down the road at Hofstra University, Long Island. A lot of anticipation about this. A lot of people say this is John McCain's last chance to really make a difference with just what -- two weeks and several days before the election.

7:01AM SEGMENT:

JULIE CHEN: But first, the stakes could not be higher for John McCain heading into tonight's third and final presidential debate. The latest CBS News poll shows Barack Obama widening his lead. Early Show national correspondent Jeff Glor is at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York, where tonight's debate is being held. Jeff, good morning.

JEFF GLOR: Julie, good morning to you. We're inside the debate hall right now. And a lot of people are wondering how sharp the verbal attacks will be up on this stage tonight. Because that new poll shows those attacks are not working on the campaign trail. For 90 minutes, John McCain and Barack Obama will be sitting only four feet away from each other, which is about the only thing that's close about this race right now. Trailing by 14 points, with 20 days left, McCain may need a moment.

ROGER SIMON: Yes, John McCain has to do something and he has to change the conversation. But having a strategy and being able to carry it out are two different things.

GLOR: The third and final debate is all about the economy and domestic issues. So expect a blizzard of numbers, especially after both candidates unveiled economic rescue plans this week. John McCain's included $52 billion in new proposals, most targeting the critically important senior voting block.

JOHN MCCAIN: Retirees have suffered enough and need relief.

GLOR: But the poll shows the group he may need the most help from is independents, where there's been a shocking shift in the span of just one week, Obama turned a ten-point deficit into an 18-point lead. 21% of voters say they've changed their opinion of John McCain for the worse, citing the campaign's reliance on negative attacks and the selection of Sarah Palin as a running mate. But tonight, for those 90 minutes, no ads, no running mates, just two men debating, making one final unfiltered case to the American people. After a long campaign and two debates already, both candidates know a lot of what the other candidate will say tonight. What they don't know is what the moderator will say. Once again that is CBS's own Bob Schieffer . Harry.

SMITH: Thanks, Jeff. Joining us now, Nicolle Wallace, senior advisor of the McCain campaign and Robert Gibbs, senior advisor in the Obama campaign. And good morning to you both.

ROBERT GIBBS: Good morning.

SMITH: We were just looking at these numbers now, these horse race numbers, the CBS/New York Times poll with Barack Obama out to a double-digit lead. Let me ask you first -- do you wish the election were today, or tomorrow, or can you wait three weeks?

ROBERT GIBBS: For a lot of reasons, I wish it was yesterday, I'd get to go home and see my son. But look, Harry, I don't believe a ton in the -- maybe the overall numbers, we don't put a lot of stock in that, we're working hard everyday. But I think the most illuminating number which you see, which is 60, more than 60% of the people think John McCain is more interested in attacking Barack Obama than in talking about what he'd do as president.

SMITH: Alright, do you-

GIBBS: 60% of the people think Barack Obama would rather talk about the solutions he has in being president than in attacking John McCain.

SMITH: Do you wish the election were, what, three months from now? Do you need more time?

WALLACE: We need a little more time. You know, I've sat here before in this room and we've talked about John McCain being down, we've talked about John McCain being out.

SMITH: Right.

WALLACE: I think he said on Monday, he's been counted out by opponents before, he's been counted out by the national media before, he's heartened by the fact that Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are planning a liberal Democratic takeover of all of the levers of government, they're measuring the drapes and we're fighting for the American people.

SMITH: Alright here's -- what is going to happen in this debate, last time? Because last week there was all this anticipation of a heavyweight fight, a 12-rounder. How -- who's going to win on points? How many -- will somebody lay a glove on the other person? It didn't really seem to happen. And the takeaway, especially for independents, was that Barack Obama won. What does your candidate have to do tonight in order to make a difference, especially three weeks from now?

WALLACE: No one can out-talk Barack Obama. I mean, he's brilliant. He is absolutely-

SMITH: Lowering the expectations.

WALLACE: -a brilliant speaker. In America, he's the most gifted political communicator of our generation. But I think that what they're looking for is a fighter and John McCain laid his cards on the table on Monday. He said there's one person in this race who says what he's going to do and does what he's going to say. And there's someone else, who, you know, lobs untrue attacks against John McCain. The truth is Barack Obama spent more millions attacking John McCain than any politician, Democrat or Republican, in the history of American politics.

SMITH: And Gibbs sits here silent, silent.

GIBBS: Well, the talking points are down. The question is, what John McCain do we get? Do we get the John McCain that we've seen that's erratic in this economic crisis? That's gone from one bad solution to the next, or do we see-

SMITH: You guys are both all over your talking points.

GIBBS: -or do we see John McCain that is more interested in personal attacks than he is in talking about how we get this economy moving again and creating jobs for working people.

SMITH: I'm going to give you Bob Schieffer questions and I need about a 10-15 second answer from both of you, okay. Here's a Bob Schieffer question for tonight. Considering your lack of experience Barack Obama, how have you been tested that proves you're ready to become President of the United States?

GIBBS: In 25 years of public service, Barack Obama has been tested. He's reached across party lines to work with everybody interested in creating common sense solutions to get things done.

SMITH: And here's my John McCain Bob Schieffer question, not that he's going to use these, but, you know, what -- that I wish he would. Admittedly, the economy is not your strong suit, Senator McCain, with the economy in the worst economic crisis since the great depression, why should we trust you to get us out of this?

WALLACE: We're in more of an economic -- more than just an economic downturn, we are in a major national crisis. And in an hour of crisis, John McCain is someone who has actually reached across -- reached across the aisle, worked with Democrats to take on big entrenched special interests and has a record of reform that is the best indicator yet that he's the only one that can shake up the broken institutions in Washington and Wall Street.

SMITH: It ain't over till it's over. We thank you both for being with us this morning.

WALLACE: Thanks, Harry.

GIBBS: Thanks for having us.

SMITH: We'll be watching the debate with bated breath tonight. Thank you so much.

 

7:07AM SEGMENT:

HARRY SMITH: And joining us now is Kathleen Frankovic, head of CBS News polling unit . Good morning, Kathy.

KATHY FRANKOVIC: Good morning, Harry.

SMITH: Alright so, first things first, with a giant lead now, double digit lead, first time we've seen in this election cycle. Is it insurmountable? Could that lead collapse?

FRANKOVIC: You know, we have some examples from the past, Harry Truman made up this ground in 1948. Hubert Humphrey almost beat Richard Nixon, after coming back from a big deficit. At one point, Ronald Reagan was this far behind. And I should note, that this was a really bad weekend to be a member of the president's party, after the stock market crash.

SMITH: Right, and we're going to illustrate that right now, because there are a bunch of states that were thought to have been sort of in play, not the least of which is Wisconsin, which really looks like it's going to be blue now.

FRANKOVIC: Well, the Quinnipiac poll conducted over the weekend shows a 17-point lead in Wisconsin for Barack Obama.

SMITH: Wow, amazing.

FRANKOVIC: That's huge.

SMITH: Yeah, Minnesota is another one that the Republicans really thought, at least for the moment, as the picture stands right now, really looks like it's going to go blue.

FRANKOVIC: Yes, that's an 11-point lead in the same polls conducted over the weekend. You know, this was a state the Republicans held their convention there in hopes that it would turn red.

SMITH: Yeah, kind of get some sort of spillover effect.

FRANKOVIC: Republican Governor.

SMITH: That whole idea of the Mississippi River strategy that people thought would be helpful in terms of getting to the White House. Another one, John McCain, we heard last week pulled his resources out of Michigan. This has been reliably blue, but it was thought to be at least a little bit in play.

FRANKOVIC: Clearly a state where the economy matters a lot and economic concerns certainly pushing people towards Obama.

SMITH: Alright, and out west -- out west, right in John McCain's neighborhood, what is going on with Colorado?

FRANKOVIC: Well, that also showed a nine-point lead for Barack Obama in the latest Quinnipiac poll. A Democratic state they hoped to get, they held their convention there. And you know, environmental concerns, young voters, all those things that matter, that help them-

SMITH: Changing demographics, right, right. And if this goes that way, might some of these other like Nevada and New Mexico?

FRANKOVIC: I think it's fair to say that both of those states are in play. That if there is a big Obama lead on election day, they're likely to turn blue too.

SMITH: And if the election were held today, do you think even Indiana?

FRANKOVIC: Well, there aren't any really new polls there, but our 50-state model that we did last week suggests that even with a five-point Democratic edge, that could be a state that turns blue on election day.

SMITH: Wow. Kathy Frankovic, thank you so much, do appreciate it.

FRANKOVIC: Thank you.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Harry Smith's political

Harry Smith's political analysis has been spot-on this fall. You can't even try to defeat his brilliant intellect and observational skills. Don't even try. Just move on and bow to his insight.

Oh, wait. No, that's not true at all. I thought today was Opposite Day there for a second...

 

"Look, when Keith anchors, he plays it straight down the line.”
-MSNBC President Phil Griffin

http://www.xanga.com/mikeknaj

They are practically

They are practically orgasmic as they count this thing down. Ugh! This is pretty hard to take! 

McCain appears to be losing ...

due to slanted polls and liberal media trying to brainwash conservatives into not showing up at the polls

exactly - this just

exactly - this just confirms that Palin was a great pick and the attack ads are working

at least we can always rely on the MSM for this very helpful information:)

Journalism is the opium of the liberals

They refuse to admit that

John McCain's vice presidential choice was a good one!  It certainly opened our checkbook ;-)  Look at the huge jump right after she was chosen! 

So...............of course the media went into emergency operations - 24/7 negative McCain/Palin and positive Obama/Biden.  Any McCain/Palin misspeaks demanded at least a week or more of coverage.  Let Obama tell falsehoods or Biden lie multiple times in the debate and those aren't worthy of coverage.

Sad to say, the populace who depends on the mainstream media for their news is being brainwashed.  There is no question about it.

And of course, BE SURE that all 3 debates are moderated by liberals - one even writing a book featuring the life of Obama!  The best opportunity the public had to really get to know the two candidates was at Rick Warren's church!  But we only had one shot at that format.  I wish he would offer to conduct another!

 

seeBS

Trying to stop McCain from doing the only thing he has done that has made adifference.

Does anyoine watch this channel?  Well other than MRC.

21% of voters say they've

21% of voters say they've changed their opinion of John McCain for the worse

and I wonder how many of those voters had actually even been considering voting for McCain....

The polls say

"We polled all registered voters and based our samples on the number of total voters by party affilliation"............after the ACORN voters were tabulated.

My point was that those who

My point was that those who said they had a lower opinion of McCain now probably would not have voted for him anyway. Only now they dislike him even more.

mb - therefore it is VERY

important that CBS get this information out!!!!  True or false doesn't matter - just get any and all negative comments OUT!

Zogby has it 48.2 for

Zogby has it 48.2 for Obama, 44.4 for McCain.  That a 3.8 difference.  Unless you count the decimal, this is not a double-digit lead.

This is just more push-reporting.

Within

Within the margin of error from what I hear therefore a dead heat.

It's the new math.

Obama can't pull ahead.  I'd be willing to bet they've given him the margin of error percentage.   okay i'm joking...no.  i'm not.   They picked McCain for the republicans and now they want to advise him...i'm sure they have republicans best interests at heart. 

The MSM is trying to keep conservatives home on Election Day

OK, conservatives.  Even though many of you dislike Mr. McCain, do NOT - repeat, do NOT - sit at home Election Day.    The mainstream media are trying to discourage you from voting with these awful polls.  Get your fannies off the sofa and repudiate the MSM jerks once and for all - go and vote.   Do not give them the sick pleasure of seeing their hero gloat.  Besides, do you want a triumverate of Socialists - Mr. Obama, Mrs. Pelosi and Mr. Reid - in control? 

MLT, your advice to get out

MLT, your advice to get out and vote is all the more important, especially factoring in the recent news that each Democrat is now entitled to multiple votes vs. only one for each Republican.

Even those poor Dems that actually have to wait till Election Day. 

Just when

Just when did these nitwits, half wits, and no wits, get to be the deciders?

On Election Day the people get to be the deciders in the only poll that counts. The rest is pure conjecture and in the last few elections the pundits track record hasn't been all that great!

The left is doing their best to keep McCain /Palin voters home on election day. Don't let it happen!! I'm holding my nose, but will be in the voting booth because it's both my right and duty to vote.

IMO McCain needs to ignore Obama and tell us why.

Why is he a 'maverick'?
What are the core values that drives him to be a 'maverick' and vote the way he does?
Why are his ideas different then Obama's not just that they are?
Why does Obama's continuing association with Ayers matter?
Why does Obama's inability to answer the question about when life begins matter?
Why does Joe Biden's campaign paying his family memebers over $2 million for 'work done on the campaign' matter?
Why does Obama's admission in Ohio that he wants to "spread the wealth around" basically disqualify him for the office of President?
Why does Obama's statement that he will make sure teachers are paid better show that he doesn't understand the function of the Federal Government or how teachers contracts are negotiated?

 

You want change? Give me a dollar.

c5, I agree with all of

c5, I agree with all of those, but I will guarantee that  if any of these are brought up:

Why does Obama's continuing association with Ayers matter?
Why does Obama's inability to answer the question about when life begins matter?
Why does Joe Biden's campaign paying his family memebers over $2 million for 'work done on the campaign' matter?

Obama will claim that it is a "distraction from the real issues" that Americans are facing, and not what they care about.

 

mb -sad to say

YOU ARE RIGHT!  The One is Teflon-coated - he is so slick not even a strand of pasta would stick to him...he slithers away from any questions he doesn't want to answer.

Vote for me, MSM

To be fair, nobody really needs to live in a Manhattan Co-op where the prices are $2 million and up.

No. That's not fair. You could live in Queens or Brooklyn, just a bridge away, and live in a Co-op for $300,000 and up.

I propose we place a confiscatory fairness tax on Harry Smith and anybody else in the MSM who 'feels' they must stick it in the eye of the poor and live in expensive, excessive housing.

That extra fairness tax would go directly to the poor in the same borough, Manhattan, notably some areas of lower Manhattan and Harlem. 

Vote for me. . let's really spread the wealth . . . it's only fair.

I feel like I died and went to heaven! - - Obama supporter Gertrude Withertuck, who died and went to heaven last Tuesday.

 

Smith: "Wow"

Obama is surging in the polls, and there's something surging in Harriet Smith's underwear again.

I don't necessarily disagree

I don't necessarily disagree with the notion that the McCain campaign is at least not succeeding and at worst, screwing up with their latest strategy.

It's old-style politics and seriously, most people don't know who Ayers is or the Weather Undergound or much even care. Ask the average person on the street and at most you'll get, "it had something to do with the 60's, right?"

Remember when Palin came out and gave her speech? How we immediately clicked and said, "She's one of us, not one of them."

The liberals peed their pants because the last thing they want is for ordinary people to connect on that level with the Republicans. The Dem's thrive on the "us vs. them" thing and casting the Republicans as "out of touch rich white guys" just like the rich white guys seen running everything on TeeVee shows.

But dang, the R's had a

 1. Woman.

 2. Mom.

 3. Someone who'd actually set foot in a Walmart to buy something.

The liberal Dems and especially the liberal decaying media just cannot allow the idea that someone so like the most of us could be president someday. So out came the knives, the accusations of baby swapping, of incest, and all manner of filth and disgust hit the airwaves and inked the papers.

Lord have mercy, the campaign should have just let her be herself, warts and all. At most, gave her the quick rundown on the ticket and where the platform stood on things and what McCain voted for or against over the years.

The liberal vitriol and invective would have completely and utterly backfired. All those attacks on Palin's "commoner status" would have been interpreted as an attack not on her, but everyone in the nation who gets up, goes to work, works for a better life and doesn't think it should all be handed to them.

94W - you said it best!

I, too, wish she had been allowed to be herself from day 1.  Putting her unarmed in the same room with the hostile lions (Gibson/Couric) was a huge mistake. 

After all the horrible things SNL has done on Sarah Palin, specifically the bit of her husband being the father of her daughter's child, I hope the campaign will have the common sense to keep her from appearing there.  Let Tina Fey do what she does best, be the opposite of the real Sarah Palin!

I still can't figure out why it is necessary for McCain or Palin to go on such shows are Letterman or The View - all have displayed such 180 degrees treatment of the two candidates. 

Sarah Palin is good for the Republican Ticket and I pray we will be fortunate to call her Vice President!

 

Because they would be

Because they would be ridiculed if they didn't.

Frankly, I think they should take that chance.

But  like beaten wives, Republicans always think if they just go along and do what the abuser wants, maybe they won't get hit this time.

X

The correct way to read the headline

McCains Attack Ads Are Good Strategy & Are Working

Amen, Brother.

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

"I want to spread the wealth" - Shades of Fannie, Freddie & CRA

If I were McCain, I'd use Obama's OWN words - "I want to spread the wealth" - against him early and often throughout the entire debate.   Let the media try to spin that as "going negative".  It directly addresses the precise cause of the current economic mess (Freddie, Fannie and CRA) and why Obama would make it that much worse.

Sure, get Wright and Ayers in there but spend 90% of the time on Obama's attitudes concerning capitalism.  He doesn't believe in it - just like Ayers.

This reminds me of the

This reminds me of the media calling Gov. Bill Richardson (D) here in New Mexico a "moderate", because he "thinks" about some liberal bill from the legislature a day or two before he invariably signs it

McNotObama '08

McCain, the truth is a winning strategy

I would disagree that negative ads are harmful to McCain, as long as they are based on the truth .... for the reason stated in the post.

http://www.jeremiahf...

and the truth

shall set you free! 

Telling the truth is NOT going negative!

the "L" word is missing from the CBS/NYT poll

I looked at the poll data because of the outlier 14-pt conclusion.

On page 7, the pollsters divided the respondents into groups, and one of the groups listed is

Moderates
Conservatives

That's it - no Liberals. I glanced through the data but couldn't find the explanation/methodology of how someone determined that a respondent is either Moderate or Conservative (and apparently cannot be both?).

Is this common polling terminology? just curious

regarding Barack Obama's tax plan - I never received a job from a poor person.

CBS/NYT poll also stacked the deck...

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/oct08b-politics.pdf

CBS/NYT poll has obama with a 14 point lead?

...but wait look at the bottom of page 20!

Total respondants = 1070

Registered = 972

Democrat = 371

Republican = 295

Independent = 306

I sorry, but this is bogus, not only do the dems outnumber the republicans but the "independents" outnumber them too?

...me thinks I smell a rat.

v

"If you can't win fairly, cheat" - any dem politician

I think that most people who

I think that most people who declare themselves to be "independents" are really sympathize more with the Democrat agenda. True, there are some liberterians in there, but I still think most are liberal.  Conservatives tend to know who they are and are more decisive about it.  They're less likely to call themselves indepenents.  Given this, the poll in question significantly oversampled Democrats; there's no doubt in my book.

Actually I think a lot of independents are like myself.

Actually I think a lot of independents are like myself.  A remnant of the moral majority.  Even though I normally vote Republican, I choose to be known as an independent. This is primarily because that I have a few "non-negotiables" regardless of party affiliation.

v

vrwc..long time no

vrwc..long time no see...

I am a registered Independent and have been for decades, before it became the in thing to do now with a lot of the leftist middle of the roaders...I agree with you and understand what smartypants is saying too...I usually always vote 'R' too. 

I am a conservative Independent...always will be.

Period.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

"I am a conservative Independent...always will be. "

BT, been "offline" for awhile, with changing jobs, moving and hurricane Ike.

Yeah, I like the title "conservative Independent".  I think more of the independents think likewise.  If you look at the registration of dems/republicans and those claiming independent its about 42%/33%/25%.  With the last number of elections being pretty close, it seems a lot of independents are "conservative".  Many I expect because there have been a lot of RINO's coming into play.

v

MSM HAS problems with Accuracy, Truth, Spin, Obvious Bias

So I'm standing in line at the check out looking at the cover of TIME Magazine with black and White photo of Soup line of the Great Depression.
Should I Rely on TIME MAG. for Future prediction ? WHERE IS the Recession they have been describing the last 6 months ? Geez
Who believes the MSM ANYMORE ?
BHO can't spell SURGE How is he ganna have one ?
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

Affirmative Action!

This Empty Black Suit is going to be elected for the same reason he won any election.  Affirmative Action and White MSM Guilt!

He no more deserves to be our leader than any of the other race-baiting assholes out there!

There ar eplenty of qualified Black politicians, yet they had to choose the smooth talking marxist as their candidate!

Wait, just wait until this piece of crap takes office!

Other polls are not as wide

Other polls are not as wide as the CBS/NY Times 14% gap.  But the always-objective MSM has latched onto this one as the gospel.  I know it was on CBS so it's at least partly expected, but CNN was all over it last night too. 

Nevermind the tiny useless polsters, Gallup, Zogby, Rasmussen...ya know, those startup wannabes.

If it wasn't so bad for our nation that the MSM cannot be objective, it would be funny.  They want Socialism, and they see a strong believer in The Obama.

Factor in the over-sampling

Factor in the over-sampling of Democrat poll respondents and the "Bradley Effect" and the race is probably neck-and-neck.  But the media is so desperate to have Obama become President they're even too reluctant to let you know about this dirty little secret.

 "Factor in the

 "Factor in the over-sampling of Democrat poll respondents and the "Bradley Effect" and the race is probably neck-and-neck."

And the over-sampling of blacks, which no one ever seems to bring up. 

 

Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.

See BS poll, huh?  Mary

See BS poll, huh?  Mary Mapes didn't have anything to do with this poll did she?

ws... LOL! McCain has

ws...

LOL!

McCain has slipped in the polls compared to where he was...by his own doing...bail-out bill, (msm) doesn't want to mention that at all because Obama voted for it too, instead they use the he is attacking too much, don't bring up Ayres ect....his debate performance hurt him a lot, he keeping Sarah off the trail for a couple weeks and putting her on shows like Couric's, plus him always apologizing and backing down to the msm when we out here are starting to get fired up again...

This is McCain's fault...nobody else's.

...and OF COURSE these polls like Newsweek and CBS/NYTs are laughable, Quinnipiac too...he is about 5-8 pts down...and he better quit throwing people under the bus who are working for and standing up for him...or it is going to be too late.

He lets the msm rule him likehe has done constantly, he is toast.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

But what is McCain's fault?

But what is McCain's fault? I realize he's made some blunders that media enthusiastically cover --- and enthusiastically ignore Obama's many blunders --- and Biden's. Like I said, I think the polls are way tighter than the media would have you believe. I also think most peoples' minds are already made up and don'treally need to see another debate to know who to vote for. And I'm not buying into  the notion that 'McCain better win this debate or it's all over'. That's another pro-Obama talking point courtesy of the establishment media. Just another tactic to get Republican voters to sit it out on election day. Can anybody in this day and age actually be sitting on the fence pondering whether or not to put a Marxist in the White House? For most Americans, the choice is clear --- you vote for McCain to keep wealth redistribution and a complete debacle in American healthcare out of the White House. Nothing could be simpler. If you're one of the 95.5% of African Americans, of course Obama is the easy choice. With alternative media, coservative publications, the internet, FOX, and talk-radio it's impossible for any thinking American not to know the stark differences between McCain and Obama --- it's a no-brainer really. That's why I think the results are going to be a lot closer and maybe a lot different on election day.  Just like 4 years ago around this time pundits were predicting a  Kerry win --- and even a landslide, the pattern seems to be the same this time around.  I'll give credit to Rosie, Alec, Babs, Penn, George cLOONEY, The Ditsy Chicks, The Boss, etc. for keeping their miserable traps shut surprisingly well this election season, but I still think McCain has a better shot than most people believe --- even with all his flinching.

Hey winston... Heck, I'm

Hey winston...

Heck, I'm not arguing with you...I am agreeing about the polls...what I was saying is McCain did slip in the polls, big-time...wheter you want to realize that or not... he had a lot of states within one or even, I am not repeating what I posted above the reasons why again...

...and as far as this debate goes...well, it will be a typical BS debate in my opinion...I want him to have some fire in him, and use smart tactics...but heck, that is all up to him.

You do not go stabbing people in the back or throw them under the bus to have a respectable campaign because the filthy leftist msm tells you too...this is a blood sport...and he's better start drawing some.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I hear you. I didn't mean to

I hear you. I didn't mean to appear as if I were arguing. But I think the media, once again, are putting way to much meaning in these flawed polls. I'm kind of starting to believe these poll numbers that curiously seem to always favor the Democrat are just another way that the media can daily bitch-slap Republicans around for a few weeks before an election --- and then face the somber funeral music the morning after.

winston...Exactly...they

winston...

Exactly...they always have they always will...

Plus I feel they think in their own silly leftist way this will cause people on our side of life to stay home...all is over...no use trying...you know...voter suppression from the arm of the msm leftist party...

Only problem with this great thinking is just as many leftists may think they do not have to bother voting...they have it in the bag...

That is why the polls always tighten up for the most part two-weeks to ten days or so before the election, plus these pollsters want their jobs to continue...and don't you know, their prestige of course!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Y'all are right

McCain doesn't have to be mean and nasty, all he has to do is stand up and speak the truth loud and clear. I know he has the courage - he's proven that. Sarah Palin made a big hit today just buying diapers for her baby because people know she is straight-forward and real. Someone has to convince John that telling the truth about Hussein Obama is not smearing him nor is it mud slinging.

EXACTLY! Telling the truth

is NOT smearing someone!  Once again, the msm is simply trying to frighten everyone. 

Obama lies about his ACORN ties and the msm does NOTHING!  I certainly hope the deception going on is addressed tonight.  However, with Schieffer as moderator, for some reason I fear it will not.

make time on nov. 4

this race is far from over. be damn sure to show up on nov. 4. obama's people know that 4-5 points is far too close a number.if the worst should happen .and, you now what i'm talking about.. obama will have 2 years to screw things up. yes, for awhile, he'll be able to blame bush. that's s.o.p. for someone taking over a job. blame the last guy. after the second year congress will be up for re-election and it will be a replay of the congressional takeover of '93. and a side benefit...it will finally prove to the liberal idiots who forgot jimmah' carter (or were maybe too young),that this "person" isn't as smart as he appears. and all he's done is game the system to get where he's at....

and remember to VOTE for

EVERY CONSERVATIVE on the ballot on November 4.  If Obama wins, we just might bring in enough conservatives to Congress that he won't be able to do too much damage.

 So, McCain being mean is

 So, McCain being mean is hurting him, hmm? That's interesting, considering that over the past 3 days, the Gallop daily tracking poll of traditional likely voters shows Obama has LOST 2 points, and only leads McCain by 3 points.

This race isn't over, but they hope you feel otherwise. That's why CBS cites their own bogus 15 point skewed poll in this story.  They want you to give up now.

 

Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.

The Truth

Telling the Truth is not an attack. The only reason that anyone wants the McCain Campaign to stop pointing out the truth is that the Truth hurts Barak Obama.

The more that the public is aware that Barak's cronies in ACORN and the Democrat party helped to facilitate our current crisis, the more they will be inclined to vote for McCain.

The Obama Tax and Finance plan is a slide down to a depression because the government meddling and taking of taxes will destroy American initiative and businesses.