CBS Early Show Touts UN Labeling of Tasers as 'Torture'

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Monday’s CBS Early Show picked up a liberal cause as co-host Hannah Storm fretted over the epidemic of taser related deaths in North America, citing how "at least six people died after being zapped by police last week, prompting a U.N. committee to consider tasers as a form of torture." CBS brought aboard a spokesman from Amnesty International which wants a moratorium on taser use and Storm endorsed the group's agenda as she pointed out how "the NAACP is weighing in and agreeing with you, saying this needs to be looked at" and she pined: "What would it take to ban tasers?"

At the beginning of the segment reporter Joie Chen described how a video of a recent taser incident in Canada, "led Taser International to slam 'sensationalistic media reports.'" Of course, Chen quickly went on to continue her own "sensationalistic" reporting on the issue. She concluded by blaming trigger-happy police officers for the recent deaths as she raised "the questions about whether taser carrying officers have become too quick on the draw."

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Storm followed Chen’s alarmist report with an interview with Executive Director of Amnesty International USA, Larry Cox:

STORM: The U.N. weighing in on this and calling it a possible weapon of torture, what does that mean? What's the significance?

COX: Well it means that it's a very serious thing, because the U.N. does not lightly use the word torture. These are people --

STORM: Yeah, how high is the bar for them?

COX: Well, these are people that have seen torture around the world, they've seen the worst kinds of torture. So they don't use the term lightly.

Yes, clearly the taser has become just as bad as the kinds of torture practices in the world’s worst totalitarian states. After all, according to a report by CBS Capitol Hill Correspondent Chip Reid on the November 2 "Early Show," the U.S. already uses water boarding, a Spanish Inquisition torture tactic.

In another brief effort to present the other side, Storm asked Cox, "So how do you answer the claims by Taser International that people aren't dying specifically from the electric shock of the tasers?" Cox responded by dismissing such claims: "The important thing is, they are dying after they are tasered. That cannot be denied, no matter how you spin the language."

That seemed to be all it took to convince Storm:

Six people in the last week in the U.S. and Canada...And in the Maryland case, the NAACP is weighing in and agreeing with you, saying this needs to be looked at. What would it take to ban tasers?

Of course that would be right after we ban guns.

Here is the full transcript of the November 26 segment:

HANNAH STORM: The United Nations has stepped into the growing controversy over tasers. As we said, at least six people died after being zapped by police last week, prompting a U.N. committee to consider tasers as a form of torture. CBS News Correspondent Joie Chen has more.

JOIE CHEN: They're sold as devices designed to protect life, but tasers are now under fire after a stunning spike in deaths. In just one week, Frederick, Maryland, a deputy zaps 20-year-old Jerrell Gray during a fight. He dies on the spot. The same day in New Mexico, a suspect resisting arrest is tasered and dies after being taken to jail. In Jacksonville, Florida, two men in unrelated cases are zapped. Both die. In Nova Scotia, Canada, another tasered suspect dies. And then in British Columbia, a man zapped for strange behavior dies after being taken to the hospital. A Canadian case caught on a tourist camera, though, has provoked the biggest outcry. The Polish man in the Vancouver airport holding area spoke no English. Held for ten hours, he's clearly agitated, and then -- he's shocked twice and dies about a minute later. Over 1,000 protestors call the camera man a hero, but the video led Taser International to slam sensationalistic media reports. The company insists no deaths have ever been conclusively linked to what it calls the low-energy electrical discharge of the taser. But the 50,000-volt slap knocked 38-year-old Ohio suspect Heidi Gill out. On the Early Show, she showed Hannah what her clothes looked like after repeated hits, and she described intense pain.

HEIDI GILL: It was the sickest thing I've ever felt. It was horrendous.

JOIE CHEN: That's echoed by the driver in this patrol car video, zapped after he refuses to sign a speeding ticket.

UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: Turn around put your hands behind your back now.

UNIDENTIFIED DRIVER: What is wrong with you?

JOIE CHEN: His case adds to the questions about whether taser carrying officers have become too quick on the draw. Joie Chen, CBS News, Washington.

STORM: Larry Cox is the Executive Director for Amnesty International USA, which has called for a moratorium on tasers as long as three years ago. Good morning, and thanks for being with us.

LARRY COX: Thank you.

STORM: The U.N. weighing in on this and calling it a possible weapon of torture, what does that mean? What's the significance?

COX: Well it means that it's a very serious thing, because the U.N. does not lightly use the word torture. These are people --

STORM: Yeah, how high is the bar for them?

COX: Well, these are people that have seen torture around the world, they've seen the worst kinds of torture. So they don't use the term lightly. I think it's because so many people are dying and because we know from our own experience that electroshock often is used as a form of torture deliberately. You're shooting 50,000 volts of electricity into people. It's extremely painful. You have people who are often in custody, and when they are in custody and it's being used repeatedly on them, it's hard to describe it as anything else but torture.

STORM: So how do you answer the claims by Taser International that people aren't dying specifically from the electric shock of the tasers? A lot of people do die from the struggle that ensues after they've been tasered -- before and after.

COX: Nobody really knows exactly why these people are dying, we only know that people are dying after they are tasered. When we started doing our study -- our first study, 70 people had died in the United States. Now it's nearly 300 people who have died in the United States. They're tasered, and then they die. We are calling for a study to find out exactly why. It may be because they have a heart condition. It may be because they're on drugs. It may be because of some other factor that we don't know about. The important thing is, they are dying after they are tasered. That cannot be denied, no matter how you spin the language.

STORM: Six people in the last week in the U.S. and Canada.

COX: Exactly.

STORM: And in the Maryland case, the NAACP is weighing in and agreeing with you, saying this needs to be looked at. What would it take to ban tasers?

COX: Well, I'm afraid it may take more of these kind of cases. The important thing to remember is that these are people who are not carrying a deadly weapon. These are not often people who are carrying any weapon at all. These are people who are resisting arrest perhaps, or walking away or running away. Sometimes it's people who are in handcuffs, people that are already subdued, and yet, they are being tasered and then they are dying.

STORM: So you're saying authorities have gone wrong by using this routinely, instead of using this as a method of last resort?

COX: I think it's been billed as something safe and easy, so it's natural that the police who are in very difficult situations and are worried for their own lives, may tend to use it too easily, and that's what's happening, it's being used as a first resort, rather than a last resort, in cases where no one would dream of using deadly force, no one would dream of using a gun.

STORM: Let me tell you what some police authorities are saying, because they're saying that look, if we don't use this, we're going to have to use a baton, we're going to have to use pepper spray in cases of extreme violence. We may have to use deadly force. In effect, they're saying maybe these tasers are saving lives. What's your response to that?

COX: Well, most of the cases we've looked at, there's been no weapon involved at all. Let alone a deadly weapon. So these are not situations where necessarily the police officer is at threat. That's the first thing. And the second thing is, we also want there to be a safe way to subdue people. I think that's very good, but we have to study this and find out that this is really safe. The penalty for resisting arrest should not be death.

STORM: Alright. What's happening in Canada? Because I know you called for an investigation there as well.

COX: Well as you know, there was this terrible incident in the airport in Canada, where, again, somebody who was not carrying a weapon, somebody who was probably not posing a threat --

STORM: Which really sparked this whole outcry is that video --

COX: Exactly and what sparked it is that it was videoed.

STORM: Right.

COX: These are the cases we know about. So, there are many cases where we don't see it on video. And that has called for an outcry, and the Canadian government has said that it will now finally do a study. We think they ought to ban the use of the weapon until that study is completed, you shouldn't be shocking people.

STORM: And we'll continue to follow this story, right. Larry Cox, thank you so much, we appreciate it.

COX: Thank you.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Here's an idea....

Obey the policeman's lawful order and you won't be tasered. Duh!

 Liberals are soooooo dumb.

Ouch

Some officers may be quick on the taser trigger. But a taser sure beats a bullet to the brain. 

 

What about....

Yeah, thanks for that little tidbit of advice, UN.
How would you classify the slaughter that went on in Rwanda, under your noses, which you didn't even lift a finger about?

Don't Tase me bro!

COX: Well, most of the cases we've looked at, there's been no weapon involved at all. Let alone a deadly weapon. So these are not situations where necessarily the police officer is at threat. That's the first thing. And the second thing is, we also want there to be a safe way to subdue people. I think that's very good, but we have to study this and find out that this is really safe. The penalty for resisting arrest should not be death.

The no-lethal-threat argument is somewhat misleading.  When an officer is alone and and faces a resistant perp (even an unarmed perp), grabbing and wrestling with the perp puts the officer at risk of injury and or having the officer's gun grabbed from the holster.

If you don't want to take the (one-in-a-million) chance of getting a Taser induced heart attack - don't resist arrest.  Its that simple.  Personal responsibility.

If I were foolish enough to pick a fight with a police officer - I would much rather get Tased than beaten with a billy-club or shot dead.

 

Cox, no, the penalty for

Cox, no, the penalty for resisting arrest shouldn't be death, but it can happen.  That's why it's a really really bad idea to resist arrest. And if a suspected perp tries to run away from the police while in the process of being arrested, yes, the police can use deadly force in some cases.

So at least seven people have died after being tased?  How many police officers and other innocent people have been injured or killed because the police did not have tasers?

"Don't tase me, 'bro!"  OK then don't resist arrest or give the police a hard time.  Very simple, but this is apparently very complicated to a liberal.

COX: Well, most of the

COX: Well, most of the cases we've looked at, there's been no weapon involved at all. Let alone a deadly weapon.

 

Most cases? And what is not considered a deadly weapon here, because if the Cop was using it, or our Gov was interrogating terrorist with it, I bet it would be considered deadly. So should we take the taser away, let the perp go? So what is the point? Who protects the Cop, while he protects the public?

 

"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain

Why is the UN still in the US?

Why are we footing a large part of the upkeep.I agree with Allanf being shot with a gun would definely be worse.Between a gun and a taser.I will take a taser.They need to move the UN to Rwanda.

Reason # 1 million...and one

To dump the UN NOW!!!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

You got my vote.

You got my vote.

This is ridiculous. 

This is ridiculous.  Pretty soon anything other than the officer giving a suspect a backrub and a glass of iced tea will be considered torture.

Considering the hundreds and thousands of people who have been tasered and we now really only hear of a handful, it seems those people were an anomaly to what should happen.  Are these people healthy?  Do they have any health issues which would contribute to their deaths?  It's much easier to simply broad-brush tasers as the culprit.

Darth Dutch

Tazers

Old, Retired and glad of it.

Never tazer a member of the U.N., give them three-four rounds of 40 Cal/9MM to the gut. That's the only option over a tazer. If brains was dynamite the U.N. and the U.S. media combined wouldn't have enough to blow their nose.

Interesting Point!

What are the changes in incidences where lethal force or chokeholds or other sublethal methods are employed?

Frankly, I've always held that giving a gun-totin' professional law enforcement agent a ration of grief is definitely in the "BAD" column, and, if it results in injury or even death...

Oh well.

 

    To the UN, harsh

 

 

To the UN, harsh words are torture. Why is anyone surprised? It's also something to beat the barbaric US over the head with (isn't that torture too?). Finally, it gives the LSM something else to bitch about. The entire issue has been very well addressed here already - it's better to be tased than shot and you won't get tased if you don't break the law and obey law officers. One would think that's pretty simple...

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

Change of perspective?

Do you think that the people who present us with this information would have a change of perspective if they were to walk a mile in the shoes of our law enforcement officers on the street.

I'd like to see how they would behave if they had to interact with the people that our officers do on a daily basis and how they would react to the variety of problems & threats even if there is not a weapon involved.  Let them start by working the night shift in Detroit, LA, New York City or any of a number of the larger cities.

It would be interesting to hear what they have to say after 30 days of on the job experience outside of their own environment.

Would there be a new found respect for law enforcement?

 

If it's good enough for reporters...

If I owned the company that makes Tazers, I'd compile a reel of all the reporters who have ever allowed themselves to be tazed as demonstrations for their news stories.  You don't see reporters getting stuff shoved under their fingernails or hooking batteries to their genitals for a story, but they will allow themselves to be tazed.  It happened right here in my very tiny TV market just a couple of weeks ago. 

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

I think a few reporters hook

I think a few reporters hook things up to their genitals....but that is mostly in their spare time.

Liberal = mushy brains

"I think a few reporters hook things up to their genitals....but that is mostly in their spare time." It's funny you should say this I just recieved this item as part of my inventory and I thought who the hell would buy one www.sextoysex.com/se... now I know. Thanks Lancasters.

 

 

If your under 30 and a Republican you have no heart

If your over 30 and a Democrat you have no brain

Now THAT'S

A scary inventory! Looks painful!
JMR

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AM I ALONE?

 This is just another reason for me to buy a taser for self defence. If it's hated by the UN, that's good enough for me. I love tasers, I want one, & since the UN hates them, I'm looking into it.

This also works in the reverse as well, most at the UN love to accept bribes, so this means I don't like them. It's a personal conduct issue.

 

 

"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise"  Mark Levin

Too Funny...

The lengths these clowns will go to. So the same people who claim this is torture, being one in the same that looks the other way on countries that are commiting atrocities? The same UN who has troops prostituting young girls and commiting acts of indeceny? I wonder if they made this decision while on their "mission" to discuss GW down in the tropics???? Someone please tell me why oh why is this organization still up and running? Indicate one instance where they were involved in ANYTHING that resulted in a positive.....Pack 'em up and ship 'em out. They have been nothing more than a complete waste of time and effort in every sense....Sure they don't use the word torture very lightly, since they have done NOTHING....EVER, execept for being by-standers. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.....

"You're either part of the solution or part of the problem"

Torture is what I

Torture is what I experience every time the UN speaks..

 

 

 

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