Religion and the military shouldn't mix. That's the take away message that both CBS and ABC touted when their Sunday morning news programs publicized the plight of an atheist who is suing the Army for religious discrimination.
On April 27th CBS's Sunday Morning and ABC's Good Morning America Sunday each featured the story of Jeremy Hall, an Army specialist who claims he was denied promotion and persecuted because of his atheism. Both interviewed Hall and Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a co-plaintiff in Hall's lawsuit.
Weinstein was described as a loyal patriot (by CBS) and a defender of the religiously oppressed (ABC). Neither network bothered to mention that on the Military Religious Freedom Foundation's Web site American military members are compared directly to Islamic jihadists. A video runs on the homepage of the site which juxtaposes a suicide bomber holding a rifle and Koran with a group of American soldiers holding rifles and Bibles.
ABC's Good Morning America featured a live interview by anchor Bill Weir of Hall and Weinstein, with no opposing voices. CBS's Sunday Morning feature, reported by Susan Spencer, at least included an interview with a military chaplain, but he was used primarily as a punching bag.
SPENCER: Jeremy Hall's lawsuit is but the latest skirmish in the ongoing debate about whether the military has, in effect, become a Christian organization. This in a country that has "In God We Trust" on its currency, but separation of church and state in its Constitution.
Chaplain DAVID SHURTLEFF: You got to be able to minister to soldiers of all different faith groups and some who don't have faith groups.
SPENCER: What's the hardest part about being a chaplain?
SHURTLEFF: The hardest part?
SPENCER: (Voiceover) Chaplain David Shurtleff at the Army's base in Fort Riley, Kansas, says protecting the rights of those nonbelievers is essential. But he doesn't see any harm in a voluntary prayer.
SHURTLEFF: It's a two-way street. And so, you know, the atheist soldier should be happy that some of his band of brothers were able to have that religious experience, whereas, you know, there was no pressure put on him to participate in it.
(Photos of soldiers praying cuts to footage of Mikey Weinstein)
SPENCER: (Voiceover) Try telling that to Mikey Weinstein.
WEINSTEIN: It's very hard to argue when we have the evidence, the clear evidence that not just implicitly, but explicitly that we're turning our American military into government-paid Christian missionaries.
Besides Shurtleff, Spencer's story included videotape of a military spokesman acknowledging that some officers had made mistakes and were disciplined for evangelizing their subordinates, as well as an interview with Under Secretary of Defense Bill Carr who said the military needed to be inclusive so that "if a prayer is offered ... (it) would lift the spirits of those that are present."
But Spencer's story was mostly an anti-religion pile-on. She juxtaposed footage of an American soldier in front of his troops with footage of Islamic demonstrators burning flags. She interviewed the director of Constantine's Sword, a documentary about religious discrimination at the Air Force Academy, and included footage from that film in her story. She also used footage from a promotional video by a group called Christian Embassy, some of which was shot inside the Pentagon, and a close up on the Web site of a group called Officers' Christian Fellowship. Mikey Weinstein's quotes provided the context in which that video was shown.
(CLIP from Christian Embassy video)
SPENCER: (Voiceover) This promotional video from a group called Christian Embassy, shot inside the Pentagon and featuring several generals, is evidence, Weinstein says, that Christianity is being forced on soldiers.
(Video of Officers' Christian Fellowship Web site)
SPENCER: (Voiceover) Then there's this Web site of the Officers' Christian Fellowship, which has representatives on nearly all US military bases worldwide.
WEINSTEIN: They're unabashed about it, it's right on their Web site: Goal number one, they want to see, quote, "A spiritually transformed military." Goal number two, "with ambassadors for Christ"--now listen to the prepositional phrase--"in uniform." And parenthetically, that hasn't worked out too well for planet Earth the last 2,000 years.
Spencer did not acknowledge that both Christian Embassy and the Officers' Christian Fellowship are private organizations and are not endorsed by the United States military.
Spencer's story painted the military as on the verge of being overrun by Bible-thumping ideologues while good - atheist - soldiers, like Hall were being victimized. She ended her piece with a smug nod to a cliché.
SPENCER: Where does all this leave you, as far as the military goes?
HALL: I have about a year left in the military. I plan to--I did plan to make a career out of it. I still love my country, I still love the service, but I don't believe you can continue to work for somebody who's infringed upon your rights. And I hope the military changes. And if it does, I might just come back again.
SPENCER: And whether he wins or loses in court, just for the record: I gather that the old saying, that there are no atheists in foxholes, may not be true, huh?
HALL: It's not. There are plenty of atheists in foxholes.
(Footage of soldiers on tank)
SPENCER: And, he adds, they can be excellent soldiers.
That same "atheists in foxholes" cliché opened the segment on Good Morning America. GMA's went with a live interview with Hall and Weinstein.
Hall spoke of being ridiculed when he tried to organize a meeting of atheist soldiers and being threatened with physical harm after his lawsuit became public. Weinstein, on the other hand, got a chance to promote his foundation, and did an excellent sales job when asked about the "theme" that he hears from his 7,500 "clients."
WEINSTEIN: Basically it's the pushing of fundamentalist Christianity using the Draconian specter of command influence, basically on helpless subordinates. And we do have just under 8,000 active duty members of the U.S. Marine Corps, Navy, Army, and Air Force, Guard, Reserve, Coast Guardsmen and vets that are facing this from their military superiors, and a vast variety of cases, which is why we filed the lawsuit.
WEIR: But even Christians, you say, are getting this kind of abuse, I guess from more fervent Christians?
WEINSTEIN: Yes, actually it's particularly Christians. Three fourths of the 96% of our nearly 8,000 are Protestants. One fourth are Catholics. They're basically being told ‘you know you're not Christian enough for us and as a result you're going to be burning in the fires of hell.' And it's very hard, when George Orwell stated that "when you face universal deceit, speaking the truth itself is a revolutionary act." It's very hard when the average American doesn't have enough guts to tell someone to shut up in a movie theater to do what Jeremy's doing to the military command.
Weir gave Hall the last word.
WEIR: What was your experience in combat?
HALL: One example I can use, is when I was in Mosul. There was a complex attack on a convoy. My turret took a bullet. When we stopped four miles down the road, after we got out of the kill zone, out of the danger area, an NCO came out, and the first thing I was asked was, ‘Hey, Hall, do you believe in Jesus now?' And I said, ‘No, I believe in ballistic glass,' and I knocked on the glass. I would like to have known, "hey, are you ok? Or anything like that. My faith, or lack of, always comes into question, even in my duties.
Both GMA and Sunday Morning portrayed Hall sympathetically and passed Weinstein's anti-religion rhetoric off without scrutiny. This reflects the media's pattern of promoting atheism, as documented by Culture and Media Institute's recently released special report "Apostles of Atheism." Interestingly, that report found that both shows also featured atheism on Sundays in 2007 as well.
On a personal note, I spent 13 years as an Air Force spouse and never once heard grumblings of religion being forced down anyone's throat. (The Air Force has come under special scrutiny by Weinstein because his son attended the Air Force Academy and as a Jew felt like he was being persecuted. Weinstein's son is featured in the documentary which was excerpted on Sunday Morning.) Before I wrote this I called a Colonel I know and asked him whether in his 23 years of experience he ever had anyone under his command or among his peers who experienced religious discrimination or thought there was a problem. He gave me an emphatic no and added that he believes this is a media-created and -driven "controversy."




















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these stories are just
April 29, 2008 - 11:26 ET by seaniepthese stories are just dumb, that is the only way to describe them
if someone came up and asked him if he believed in Jesus now, then it was because military people tend to deflect serious situations with humor, or because that kid goes around making sure that everyone in his unit knows that he is an athiest
sounds like an arrogant troublemaker who makes a lot of noise and then complains about it when it is heard
This is why!
April 29, 2008 - 11:33 ET by AgnosticThis is why I have a hard time calling myself an atheist. Atheism implies a thin-skinned, activist attitude toward religion that I just don't feel. Being part of the Navy and leaving in close quarters with people of many religious beliefs I never saw any time of religious intolerance. I saw curiosity about differences and I saw people that were away from home and feeling some fear turn to religion in a stronger way than they may have otherwise but that does not mean intolerance.
IMHO and unfortunately without any research, I see this as another case of a thin-skinned anti-religious atheist who has found a way to get some attention. He doesn't care how many people get hurt as long as he gets his 15 minutes.
I strongly agree
April 29, 2008 - 12:48 ET by wizardjrI believe the two bloggers above got it right. This guy sounds like a typical trouble maker trying to shove his world view up everyone's tutu. The fact he is not getting promotions pretty much spells it out. It's because he is not a team player and is a pain the neck that he won't get promoted. Who would want him? But he doesn't see it and probably never will. It's all "their" fault.
there are numerous reasons
April 29, 2008 - 13:13 ET by seaniepthere are numerous reasons not to be promoted, and people who suck up do tend to get promotions
and those that make the extra effort to be difficult, they tend not to get them as much
while I was the service, I was NEVER ONCE mandated to pray or anything like that, there were prayer services and whatnot, but if you made a huge deal about it one way or the other - then you brought attention to yourself, and that attention is what this crybaby craves
a few officers having a club where they read the bible does not mean that there is a policy whereby the entire military it becoming the army of the pope or something, and for someone to make that leap, only shows a tremendeous lack of common sense, impartiality or "journalistic" integrity
sean
April 29, 2008 - 13:18 ET by candanceReally it's an infringement on the rights of the officers who want to get together and talk about the Bible. Liberals want to create a culture where the Bible is banned in all public places, no matter the feelings of believers who feel censored.
oh I know but how about
April 29, 2008 - 13:27 ET by seaniepoh I know
but how about someone do an expose on the majority of people who had an experience like I did . . . umm, nothing about religion?
there are a lot more people like that coming out of the service right now
to me its not as much about freedom and the bible or anything, its just shoddy journalism
C'mon folks, you missed the obvious one...
April 29, 2008 - 15:26 ET by habbyguy"Spencer" states: "This in a country that has "In God We Trust" on its currency, but separation of church and state in its Constitution."
It's the old liberal mantra - repeat something often enough, and it becomes truth.
There is NO reference to a "separation of church and state" in the Constitution. Full Stop. Never has been, never will be.
OTOH, considering atheism IS a form of religion (look up the term) those who advocate allowing only atheistic content (that is, with a total lack of any spiritual context) in public domain are in effect asking the government to IMPOSE a PARTICULAR religion, which IS prohibited by the Constitution.
As a former active Army NCO
April 29, 2008 - 17:30 ET by jay_1975As a former active Army NCO (now in the Guard) I have had to give non-recommendations for many Soldiers who thought that they deserved to be NCO's. Not everyone is meant to be a leader. When these kids who don't have what it takes realize that they will not be recommended for the promotion board you see many who tighten up and make the changes needed to earn their promotion, but there are a few (and I am guessing Hall is one of them) that try to play the system. They look to transfer to other squads or platoons or try to just buck the system by pulling slicky boy tricks. The fact that this Hall kid would publically lie (yes he is lying) about the Army because he is upset is inexcusable. In my 14 years of service, I have never once had religion forced on me and I never once forced my religious beliefs on my Soldiers. The mission always comes first. Hooah.
More crock being spewed
April 29, 2008 - 17:59 ET by HumblepieI spent over twenty years in the service of my country. In that time I've had a few soldiers/airmen who professed the atheist faith. At no time were they singled out or harassed. To the contrary, the practice of their religion, or not, was encouraged. When it comes time for evaluations each individual is judged against their peers. Does everyone receive the highest marks? No. Only a few will and some will receive a non-promote/non-re-enlist. The only question I would ask supervisors before submitting a soldiers evaluation was "would you want them in a foxhole with you when the s$$t hits the fan" As a individual's supervisor, we are expected to evaluate the person honestly and without prejudice.
R. Kunkle, MSgt, USAF, Ret
During this time with political correctness at its zenith, I reserve the right to let you know you're an idiot.
I get the impression that
April 29, 2008 - 18:47 ET by BDI get the impression that this guy suffers from what we used to call "Latent Malcontent Syndrome." Everyonce in a while they used to appear in our units and they tried as hard as possible to NOT fit in with the other soldiers.
Sort of like Lee Harvey Oswald in that they pick SOMETHING to be, and if it makes the seem odd, all the better. Oswald selected Communism, but if being an athiest would have made him the outcast or vegetarian, he likely would have become that.
That is just the vibe I get off this guy.
Give me a break!
April 30, 2008 - 04:23 ET by UnsaneWhat a crybaby. I'm an atheist serving in the military, and I don't feel this great peer pressure to conform to any religion.
In fact, let me suggest that if this soldier didn't want it to be an issue, all he needed to do was to shut the hell up. I don't discuss religion with others. The only religious discussion I have had thus far this year was the splitting of days off. My counterpart told me he wanted Sundays off so he could attend church. To which I said, "Done!" He gets Sundays off for that purpose.
If discussions veer towards religion, I politely excuse myself and bail. Besides, aren't we supposed to avoid the topic in polite company anyways because of its touchy nature?
Oh, and I have YET to have anyone in the military, when they mention in passing that they are on their way to church, ask if I want to go. I have gotten more aggressive proselytizing in one year of high school than in my entire time in the military!
I think BD is onto something with his post above.
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What religious influence?
April 30, 2008 - 07:45 ET by owr084I was in the USAF for 22 years as an officer and never experienced any pressure to participate in any religious functions.
No Rel Pref
April 30, 2008 - 11:18 ET by CobraManThe military doesn't care about a trooper’s religious preference (or any other preference for that matter) except for in one circumstance. You're asked about you religious preference so that it can be added to your "dog tags." This is done solely so that you may receive the proper religious ceremony when you’re dead and buried. An "atheist" would chose "no religious preference" and their tags would read No Rel Pref.
When it comes to personal preferences of any type, that's about as far as it goes in the military. Everything else, including promotions, awards, and assignments, are based on someone's abilities and the needs of the military and not on their personal preferences. In regards to his promotion, it looks like that this man is a no go.