"If I'm an unborn child and I want the support of the far religious right I better stay unborn as long as possible because once I'm born I'm off the radar screen. No healthcare, no child care, no nothing, " said Jim Wallis, founder of the liberal Christian group Sojourners.
Only he wasn't labeled a "liberal" by Katie Couric. He was called a "progressive."
Wallis got the royal treatment from Couric in the October 18 broadcast. In a piece about the Values Voters Summit being held in Washington, D.C. this weekend, Couric reported a segment on whether evangelical Christians can be counted on by the G.O.P.
She went hard left after the opening statement, in which she said there was "a new kind of holy war" for the hearts and minds of 50 million evangelical voters.
Smiling, she asked Wallis,“Do you believe that evangelical Christians are still the domain of the G.O.P?”
He answered with an emphatic, “No,” adding their votes are "up for grabs."
The segment was designed to show the "chasm" between "progressive" and "traditional" Christians. But the deck was stacked for the liberal/progressives. Wallis had five sound bites while Richard Land, of the Southern Baptist Convention, and representing the "traditional" evangelicals had three.
The following excerpt is indicative of the lefty slant:
Couric started off by describing the impact of evangelical Christians in the Reagan era.
COURIC: Politics supplied the perfect bully pulpit for their conservative viewpoints, emphasizing two issues above all -- opposition to gay rights and abortion rights. For more than two decades, their support at the polls has been critical to republican victories. But that may be changing, and many younger evangelicals are behind it.
WALLIS: A whole generation says no, there are more than two moral values issues. There's Darfur. There's global poverty. There's climate change. There's human trafficking.
COURIC: And in this new agenda, the old issues aren't as prominent. A new CBS News poll out tonight shows that abortion (2%) and gay rights (0%) aren't even among the top four priorities evangelicals want presidential candidates to discuss. In fact, healthcare and Iraq dominate, which creates a chasm between progressive evangelicals like Jim Wallis, and more traditional leaders like Richard Land.
WALLIS: Why were the followers of the Prince of Peace the easiest ones to convince to go to war in Iraq?
LAND: I believe when people are at war with you, it's best to be at war with them.
(Natural sound on tape) We are doing spiritual warfare and battle here.
COURIC: Land also thinks the two issues that united evangelicals shouldn't divide them now.
LAND: The protection of the sanctity of human life from conception to natural death and everywhere in between. Secondly, protection of traditional marriage.
COURIC: But our poll shows that poverty trumps abortion as an issue evangelicals care about. In fact, Jim Wallis believes the term “pro-life” should be redefined.
WALLIS: If I'm an unborn child and I want the support of the far religious right I better stay unborn as long as possible because once I'm born I'm off the radar screen. No healthcare, no child care, no nothing.
COURIC: Different priorities may mean a new acceptance of a different kind of G.O.P. Candidate. Current front-runner, Rudy Giuliani, the first Republican nominee in three decades to support abortion rights, is almost tied for first among white evangelical voters.
Couric went on to describe the the support of abortion rights as a "G.O.P. heresy" and made sure to mention that the three leading Republican candidates "have trouble even talking about their faith and their church attnedance."
Couric closed the piece by gazing into her crystal ball and saying, "Meanwhile social conservatives may not attend this election if their enthusiasm for the candidates doesn't improve."
Kristen Fyfe is a Sr. Writer for the MRC's Culture and Media Institute.
















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WOW! Katie's so good at
October 19, 2007 - 15:45 ET by drillanwrWOW!
Katie's so good at using that political thesaurus of hers and the neoPRAVDA ...
}}---> Up for grabs
October 19, 2007 - 15:57 ET by Cool ArrowI'm thinking "Up for grabs" is roughly equivalent to "Open for bids" So insulting it's pathetic.
Maybe we should all post our souls on eBay.
The real story is this Wallis guy. He, like the archbishop in San Francisco have studied and trained all their lives for such a moment as has been set before them, and both choose the milquetoast response.
Perhaps it's time for our "religious leaders" to once again stand for something.
be careful what you wish for jim
October 20, 2007 - 11:52 ET by TruthMongerthe Democrats definitely do not want us in their party
do the Dems ever want to serve people? or do they just "want your vote?"
A service of the new NB respect police
"Different priorities may
October 19, 2007 - 15:55 ET by MightyMouth"Different priorities may mean a new acceptance of a different kind of
G.O.P. Candidate. Current front-runner, Rudy Giuliani, the first
Republican nominee in three decades to support abortion rights, is
almost tied for first among white evangelical voters"
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Giuliani's position on this is that it should be left to the States to decide abortion rights and that the constitution does not support any Federal mandate.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
}}---> Right you are MM
October 19, 2007 - 16:00 ET by Cool ArrowMaybe Texas wouldn't outlaw infanticide, but we'd be a lot closer to ending taxpayer funding of infanticide.
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It's the same thing with
October 19, 2007 - 16:08 ET by drillanwrIt's the same thing with [fetus] stem cell research ...
These things get twisted and spun as "so-and-so is against" ... But what so-and-so is against is tax dollars (federal) funding it. There's nothing stopping the states from trying to handle it the way they want ... or private funding.
"If I'm an unborn child and
October 19, 2007 - 16:03 ET by motherbelt"If I'm an unborn child and I want the support of the far religious
right I better stay unborn as long as possible because once I'm born
I'm off the radar screen. No healthcare, no child care, no
nothing, " said Jim Wallis, founder of the liberal Christian group
Sojourners.
I wondered how long it would take for someone to drag out the old "You care about fetuses in the womb but not the kids who are already here!" line.
Actually, it took them longer than I thought it would.
It's tragic mother, that
October 19, 2007 - 16:10 ET by MightyMouthIt's tragic mother, that the left cannot (or does not) distinguish between murder and subsidy. Who are these people? Do they live next to us? Amongst us? Scary...<shudder>
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
}}---> Meanwhile
October 19, 2007 - 16:16 ET by Cool ArrowTaxpayers either allow school clinics to provide secret contraceptives to their 11yr old girls or deny them any school first aid whatsoever.
Come on down Norway and tell us all about teaching kindergarteners to fondle each other.
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Progressive/Liberal/Socialis
October 20, 2007 - 11:28 ET by misterbee241Progressive/Liberal/Socialist/Communist - all the same to me.
I dont know how old Wallis is but he'd better be thankful to whatever god he prays to that he survived the womb. Since 1973 it's been a death sentence to be there and a crap shoot as to whether or not you get out alive and in one piece. I guess it's a good thing his mother wasnt as progressive as he is.
Liberal preachers like Wallis deny the power of Christ and preach a social gospel. And that's a misnomer because "gospel" means "good news" and there is no good news in socialism. And far more evangelical Christians do what they can to help kids than any liberal ever did. Jesus left it up to us and not Ceasar to feed the hungry.
So Wallis doesnt speak for me - he's a fool. But he's the kind of false teacher that Couric and her ilk just get apoplectic over. Phooey on all of them.
the true Christian
October 20, 2007 - 11:37 ET by botgmessage includes being accountable for yourself. How could anyone repent of lack of government programs (if the govt is responsible)?
These enablers of bad behavior actually hurt the very people they 'purport' to want to help. Not very Christian behavior.
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
completely agree. I made
October 20, 2007 - 12:44 ET by mbuelcompletely agree.
I made the mistake of trying to debate the fool via email, about the dangerous road he wants America to go down and we need only look at what's happening in Europe to learn how foolish communism/socialism are.
His answer (was actually an assistant Bob Francis)
The guy is a complete socialist progressive along with everyone at Sojourners. Their goal is complete and total christian marxism.
Progressive/Liberal/Socialis
October 20, 2007 - 11:39 ET by misterbee241Progressive/Liberal/Socialist/Communist - all the same to me.
I dont know how old Wallis is but he'd better be thankful to whatever god he prays to that he survived the womb. Since 1973 it's been a death sentence to be there and a crap shoot as to whether or not you get out alive and in one piece. I guess it's a good thing his mother wasnt as progressive as he is.
Liberal preachers like Wallis deny the power of Christ and preach a social gospel. And that's a misnomer because "gospel" means "good news" and there is no good news in socialism. And far more evangelical Christians do what they can to help kids than any liberal ever did. Jesus left it up to us and not Ceasar to feed the hungry.
So Wallis doesnt speak for me - he's a fool. But he's the kind of false teacher that Couric and her ilk just get apoplectic over. Phooey on all of them.
I was right - Wallis is a communist.
Ugh.
October 19, 2007 - 16:13 ET by Dave PierreThe mere mention of the name "Jim Wallis" draws a single reaction from me: "Ugh."
A good article from the Weekly Standard on Wallis:
"God's Democrat," Weekly Standard, 4/11/05
Couric closed the piece by
October 19, 2007 - 16:21 ET by MidAmericaCouric closed the piece by gazing into her crystal ball and saying, "Meanwhile social conservatives may not attend this election if their enthusiasm for the candidates doesn't improve."
I believe if hillary is one of the choices the social consevatives will probably find some enthusiasm. ...for the ABC candidate. (anybody but clinton)
The Republican losses in the '06 elections allowed the base to vent it's frustration with the party but the resulting dem agenda has reminded them why elections matter.
Wallis has one BIG problem
October 19, 2007 - 16:56 ET by exLibThe Bible makes one thing Clear:
Luke 6:26 Woe to you when all speak well of you, for that is what their ancestors did to the false prophets.
Now, I am no fan of Jerry Falwell or Mister 700 club dude (forgetting his name).
But it's clear from the Bible that the latter 2 guys are hitting some nails on the head judging from the amount of persecution they get.
While on the other hand Wallis is gettng the red carpet treatment.
That alone should tell you somethings up.
Also, did Jesus ever say ANYTHING about the Roman Army? You'd think if Wallis was even in the ballpark you'd be able to find some evidence that Jesus wasn't at the least understanding of the need for Armed forces and the like, clearly Paul was (Romans 13:4)
Wallis' agenda
October 19, 2007 - 17:06 ET by Cool ArrowSounds to me like Wallis is helping ease the consciences of those who would "suffer the little children to come unto" Christ by killing them before they get a chance to sin.
Brilliant!
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I wasnt much of a fan of
October 20, 2007 - 11:40 ET by misterbee241I wasnt much of a fan of Falwell either until it occured to me the only perception I had of him was from the liberal anti-Christian media.
I've since changed my mind on him.
...check out Robertson's
October 20, 2007 - 11:59 ET by TruthMonger...check out Robertson's (the "700 club dude") Operation Blessing (he's a war hero BTW)
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Government is Charity
October 19, 2007 - 17:06 ET by deerjerkydaveLiberals view the government as a charitable organization. However, government is the worst charitable organization to donate to. If you are lucky, pennies of every dollar actually make it to the recipients. The rest is squandered by government overhead and inefficiency. For example, I've read (I believe it was from Milt Friedman's Free to Choose) that the government welfare costs the taxpayer roughly $50,000 per welfare recipient!
Just wait until Hillary gets her hands on healthcare!
Well, what is the record of
October 19, 2007 - 17:58 ET by SMGalbraithWell, what is the record of charitable work by liberals versus conservatives?
We have the evidence.
Summarizing: "The book's basic findings are that conservatives who practice religion, live in traditional nuclear families and reject the notion that the government should engage in income redistribution are the most generous Americans, by any measure. "
Well, what about liberals?
"Secular liberals who believe fervently in government entitlement programs give far less to charity. They want everyone's tax dollars to support charitable causes and are reluctant to write checks to those causes, even when governments don't provide them with enough money. "
And this includes both religious and secular charities. Conservatives don't just give more - time, money, energy - to church groups. They also give far more than liberals to secular organizations.
For a group of people that Mr. Wallis says doesn't care about the poor, this is awfully strange behavior. Does Mr. Wallis believe that if the government isn't doing it, it's not being done?
Would've been nice had Ms. Couric known this. But the facts don't fit the liberal template of the world that she uses.
SMG
WALLIS: If I'm an unborn
October 19, 2007 - 17:49 ET by HypocriteHaterWALLIS: If I'm an unborn child and I want the support of the far religious right I better stay unborn as long as possible because once I'm born I'm off the radar screen. No healthcare, no child care, no nothing.
So he's basically aknowledging that some people are having children without considering beforehand whether they can afford to provide basic necessities for these children. Oooookay. and why is that our problem, Mr. Wallis? We're the ones who work 40+ hours per week, pay our bills on time, and spend within our means. Now we have to work that much harder to provide taxes to those people who choose to be irresponsible.
Our founding fathers believed in the unalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No mention was made of the RIGHT to healthcare, childcare and the pursuit of welfare. You want it, go out and pay for it your damn selves!
"Progressive" is a political
October 19, 2007 - 22:15 ET by cleverpig"Progressive" is a political label, just like "liberal." Progressives are left of liberals. It is a term that I think is mostly in use online and on the west coast.
West Coast? How arrogant of you to think that
October 19, 2007 - 22:53 ET by RJ...but not surprising. You're one of the Berkely elites, right? ;^)
I read it almost daily in various newspapers, and just the other day heard it on the floor of the House.
Wasn't trying to be
October 20, 2007 - 22:24 ET by cleverpigWasn't trying to be arrogant, I just thought perhaps the author was confused about the term because it isn't used as widely as I thought. She seems annoyed that the person wasn't identified as "liberal"-- progressive basically means liberal+ where I live and online, but I don't know about elsewhere, so I attempted to clarify.
cp
October 20, 2007 - 22:37 ET by Blonde"Progressive" is a political label, just like "liberal."
Really?
Why don't you try defending the media's code about "progressiveness"....vis-a-vis conservatism? The left wing loonies get called a nice name like "progressives"....while those of us who are conservative get called all kind of vitriolic names...it's never quite okay to just call us conservative.
If you're going to post here, you need to keep up.
P.S. A homework assignment for you....in the next five minutes, Google (you know, Rosie can do it too) five articles that refer to Her Highness as a liberal.
Tick Tock.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Um, okay. Are we talking
October 20, 2007 - 22:55 ET by cleverpigUm, okay. Are we talking about Rosie O'Donnell (and if so, why??) or some other Rosie? Who is Her Highness? And why the rush?
wow CP
October 20, 2007 - 23:01 ET by botgnot having trouble keeping up are you?
<<Google IT Rosie O'd>>
who else has been coronated by media matters (a site she helped start)
and a time limit? well since Hilda is all over it should be easy to find articles which correctly identify her
"The more I study science, the more I believe in God." Einstein
Yeah...
October 20, 2007 - 23:09 ET by cleverpigHilda? I'm totally confused now. What does <<Google IT Rosie O'd>> mean?
Wow, I think I AM having trouble keeping up! Clearly you guys are way too smart for me. You must be the winners. You win!
Could Katie Couric be any
October 20, 2007 - 00:57 ET by candanceCould Katie Couric be any stupider?
I'm getting tired of typing her name on here every day when she does something dumb. We need a nickname for her.
Any thoughts?
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}}---> Katie Nicknames
October 20, 2007 - 03:01 ET by Cool ArrowLudicris Perkie C.
Kewpie Doopy
Punky Huckster
Cherpes Cure
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