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Chicago Tribune Religion Blogger: Is Just a Little Bit of Porn Okay? By Ken Shepherd (Bio \| Archive) August 7, 2007 - 11:23 ET Don't get me wrong. I like that mainstream media do take some efforts to report more religion and faith news items these days, including blogs like "The Seeker" at Chicago Tribune's home on the Web and the ongoing "On Faith" feature hosted by the Washington Post and Newsweek. But just as I ripped "On Faith" for asking if good works were preferable to being saved, I have to admit this August 6 discussion starter by the Trib's Manya Brachear is a little clumsy as well: Is church the right venue to talk about pornography? Is a small dose really that wrong? This from the same blogger who asked, "Does sex bring you closer to God?" I don't know what Bible she's reading, but her hymnal sounds like it was written by Nine Inch Nails. 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Joe Scarborough Savages Democratic 'Hacks' at 'The Daily Show' Related Topics Religion Sexuality Manya Brachear Online Media Blogs Chicago Tribune Newsweek Comments Policy All comments are owned by whoever posted them and are subject to our terms of use. They should not be assumed to represent the views of NewsBusters. Viewing options Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes. It's simple August 7, 2007 - 11:36 ET by cvgbuckeye Way to frequently, people ask religious questions when the answers are ALL in the Bible. The answers to everything are there. If someone expresses a disbelief in the Bible, then I don't know where to go from there; since we have no common ground. All I can do from there is to make a case for the truth of God's word; the Bible. If that is not successful, we must sometimes "shake the dust from our feet" and go on to someone else. Sorry Login or register to post comments Email this page "when the answers are ALL in the Bible" August 7, 2007 - 12:12 ET by vrwc13 Hadn't quite thought about it like that but you are right. I think you could find answers to all our current issues: porn, abortion, global warming, socialism, etc. Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened. -Winston Churchill. Login or register to post comments Email this page Don't apologize, cvg. August 7, 2007 - 14:22 ET by Dad Gummit Never apologize for being right. Just remember Ecclesiastes 10:2 "A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left" Speaks volumes today, doesn't it? *"If you don't read a newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read a newspaper, you are mis-informed."-Mark Twain Login or register to post comments Email this page Yes we discuss porn all the August 7, 2007 - 11:39 ET by TruthMonger Yes we discuss porn all the time - its just one of many major problems in the church - and the Apostle Paul even dealt with these things in Corinthians... Its never healthy - even "just a little bit" but neither is going to the casino "once in a while" or the rampant materialism of the American culture, etc, etc, etc... Login or register to post comments Email this page Agree August 7, 2007 - 13:08 ET by cvgbuckeye TruthMonger: You are correct. Our Senior Pastor has often told the true story of a man that kept a rattlesnake in a cage in his house. Every now and then he would take out that snake and fancy himself as a snake charmer. He would then kiss that snake on the head. You guessed it. One day that snake bit him right in the face and it almost killed him; it did disfigure his face due to nerve damage which the doctors were only able to partially repair. But, I'm sure you didn't guess this: Every now and then, he still does it. Tell you anything? Login or register to post comments Email this page cvg excellent point - tells August 7, 2007 - 13:34 ET by TruthMonger cvg excellent point - tells me all kinds of things yes, thanks:) Login or register to post comments Email this page Tells me he is retarded August 7, 2007 - 13:44 ET by Six String Spiff Sounds like he will be rewarded by Darwin soon. And? The American Revolution Continued* Login or register to post comments Email this page Sounds like he's doing it August 7, 2007 - 13:51 ET by balboa Sounds like he's doing it wrong. Login or register to post comments Email this page Sounds like Darwin will August 7, 2007 - 14:16 ET by TruthMonger Sounds like Darwin will reward bal and spiff soon as well... Rev 3:22 (NIV) "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches." Login or register to post comments Email this page "Sounds like Darwin will reward bal and spiff soon as well... " August 7, 2007 - 14:31 ET by vrwc13 but it's not like we haven't warned them...sigh. : ( Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened. -Winston Churchill. Login or register to post comments Email this page Respect for TM August 7, 2007 - 15:48 ET by Six String Spiff = NONE now Mr. holier than thou. CRAM IT The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page TM, dust shaken' time? v August 7, 2007 - 16:16 ET by vrwc13 TM, dust shaken' time? v Login or register to post comments Email this page vr August 7, 2007 - 16:36 ET by TruthMonger vr - im seeing progress here myself - so I'm hanging a while longer:) - and you? Login or register to post comments Email this page TM - trouble with that T-shirt hottie though... August 7, 2007 - 16:46 ET by vrwc13 TM - trouble with that T-shirt hottie though... Yeah been hanging tough on this thread, but keeping in mind when it's "dust shaken" time. But man, every time I post a comment, "she" shows up on the right. Geez, what do I have to do, tape a picture of my wife over that part of the screen? I don't find it that it's there by chance, considering today's "hottie" topic. v p.s. progress is good - sow, water, reap, sow, water, reap...it goes on... Login or register to post comments Email this page vr August 7, 2007 - 16:56 ET by TruthMonger she's astoundingly beautiful - nothing wrong with seeing that... just don't think about how incredibly fantastic and earth-shattering the sex would be and you'll be just fine... it's EASY! Login or register to post comments Email this page Finally Figured It Out August 8, 2007 - 00:15 ET by MBombardier I was totally mystified as to the "hottie" to which you all refer until I realized--it's my porn filter working! So....since I can't see her, wherever she is, she must fit the definition of porn my internet content filter uses. That's actually somewhat amusing in a weird sort of way. Login or register to post comments Email this page Thump Thump August 8, 2007 - 07:51 ET by Six String Spiff Close your mind tightly. You don't want to have a hint of a little tummy showing. You might go to hell. I'm glad I don't live that way. The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page Ad Filter ? August 8, 2007 - 07:54 ET by Free Stinker Porn filter? Sound more like a GREAT ad blocker! What's the name of this fine product? ;-) Fred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one building. Login or register to post comments Email this page Content Filter August 8, 2007 - 10:24 ET by MBombardier It's Net Nanny 5.5, believe it or not. It was recently purchased by Content Watch, which is the filter many businesses use. I don't even notice it working (obviously) like previous products I have tried. It was recommended by an wonderful sexual addiction counselor I know. Login or register to post comments Email this page You don't want to have a hint of a little tummy showing. 6SSpiff August 8, 2007 - 09:26 ET by vrwc13 " Close your mind tightly. You don't want to have a hint of a little tummy showing. You might go to hell. I'm glad I don't live that way." Spiff, you don't go to hell for what you do, looking at tummys etc, one goes for the one thing they do not do. That one thing is accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. "But first and foremost comes the evangelical message that we are sinners incapable and unwilling on our own to live up to God's holy standard and Christ is the only atoning sacrifice for our sin. That's the message. The (world) media confuse it to think that we preach moral restraint and good works as a means to salvation, rather than fruit thereof." Ken Shepherd Login or register to post comments Email this page Ah, but as the old saynig goes... August 8, 2007 - 11:47 ET by TheDeuce The grass may look greener on the other side of that thar fence, but it still needs fertilizin'. I had a poster in my college dorm, hot chick in a bikini, that had something to this affect underneath; "Just remember, even she's got a guy sitting at home who is sick of her shit from time to time." Login or register to post comments Email this page Was the best-looking person August 8, 2007 - 11:57 ET by TheDeuce Was the best-looking person you ever had sex with the one who was best at it? I gotta admit, some of the best sex I ever had was not with the prom queen, though that sex was memorable. All sex at that age tended to be, as little as there was at the time with another person in the room with me when it took place, if you know what I'm saying...and I think you do. Login or register to post comments Email this page Yes, shake your dust so all August 7, 2007 - 16:59 ET by balboa Yes, shake your dust so all us sinners can start sneezing. Login or register to post comments Email this page bal you funny:) August 7, 2007 - 17:07 ET by TruthMonger lol ya damn heathen! Login or register to post comments Email this page Can't remember the August 7, 2007 - 14:24 ET by Dad Gummit Can't remember the specific Proverb that says "As a dog returns to his own vomit so a fool returns to his folly." *"If you don't read a newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read a newspaper, you are mis-informed."-Mark Twain Login or register to post comments Email this page 2 Peter August 7, 2007 - 15:43 ET by dscott 2 Peter 2:21-22 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=68&chapter=2&verse=21&end_verse=22&version=31&context=context Prov. 26:11 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Prov.%2026:11;&version=31; The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.* Marcus Aurelius Login or register to post comments Email this page This whole tact is about August 7, 2007 - 11:49 ET by dscott This whole tact is about splitting off an individual aspect of behavior from moral responsibility (church/faith purview) in public life. The idea here is to peel off every behavior or life activity until your participation at Church or faith is meaningless to the world around you. A person's faith or belief system influences and dictates how they approach and handle life, anyone who says different is being deceptive or disingenuous. I won't speak for other religions, as a Christian if your faith does not consistently reflect your works then you aren't a Christian, period. We are not talking about isolated failings from consistency, we are talking about practicing what you preach. Christianity is not some academic or metaphysical exercise. This is the same baloney about separating Church and State. This tactic is nothing new: Abortion, homosexuality, politics, government job, etc. We should not be surprised at the behavior of a non religious person who does not comprehend the relevance of faith to their life. It just means they need to get saved. The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius Login or register to post comments Email this page What does it matter what August 7, 2007 - 11:54 ET by Six String Spiff What does it matter what people watch in their own homes? The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page Well I've heard that August 7, 2007 - 11:58 ET by TruthMonger Well I've heard that watching child porn at home is a crime...not sure why...what do you think? Login or register to post comments Email this page Because August 7, 2007 - 12:08 ET by Chaitealover As was said in the early days of computers: "Garbage in, garbage out" Login or register to post comments Email this page Of course not child porn August 7, 2007 - 12:36 ET by Six String Spiff You don't seriously believe I am defending kiddie porn? The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page to many people it's ok - so August 7, 2007 - 12:45 ET by TruthMonger to many people it's ok - so are you fine with trying to push your morals on them but not fine with me pushing my morals against all porn on you:)? Just wondering how that works with you... Login or register to post comments Email this page TruthMonger August 7, 2007 - 12:57 ET by Six String Spiff What morals have I pushed? I just said I wasn't talking about kiddie porn. If somebody wants to engage with a child, that isn't just immoral, its sick and worthy of life detention and/or death. The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page morals you are August 7, 2007 - 13:03 ET by TruthMonger morals you are pushing: If somebody wants to engage with a child, that isn't just immoral, its sick and worthy of life detention and/or death. that is how i see all porn so what's the difference between you and I here? Login or register to post comments Email this page CHILD My mic MUST be broken.... August 7, 2007 - 13:50 ET by Six String Spiff Defenseless child versus consenting adults. Nice to know you would kill me for viewing porn. Wow. I am all for killing terrorists, but not porn viewers, and pot smokers. There is obviously something wrong with an individual viewing child porn. The same thing that's wrong with shooting somebody. One party is not given a chance. As an aside, what about hunting for pleasure? Do you eat all of your kills? If not, are you immoral? The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page ah yes as the argument August 7, 2007 - 14:03 ET by TruthMonger ah yes as the argument crumbles in comes the rhetoric yes i want to kill you (sigh) what is it about age that protects you from exploit exactly - are we not all defenseless against sexual perversion - are not you and i case in point here? is my mic on? can anyone else hear me? Login or register to post comments Email this page What is it about age? Well, August 7, 2007 - 14:07 ET by balboa What is it about age? Well, wisdom, knowledge, self-awareness. Surely you don't think you have the same sensibilities as a 9-year-old? Or...DO YOU. (gasp!) ;-) Login or register to post comments Email this page correct me if im wrong bal August 7, 2007 - 14:18 ET by TruthMonger so I'm 17 years and 11 months - I am defenseless and exploitable in 2 months i am impervious to all harm (gasp) correct me if im wrong bal How old are you bal - you sound about 9 to me so far... Login or register to post comments Email this page Zing! 18 is a general August 7, 2007 - 15:47 ET by balboa Zing! 18 is a general mark. For others it comes sooner, for others it comes later. 18 is safe. Login or register to post comments Email this page and 18 means absolutely August 7, 2007 - 15:49 ET by TruthMonger and 18 means absolutely nothing in terms of vulnerability or morality - for everyone - regardless of brain power... Login or register to post comments Email this page Yes it does. It means by August 7, 2007 - 15:54 ET by balboa Yes it does. It means by that time you should be able to take care of yourself, be responsible for yourself, which is why you can vote, fight in a war, etc. Login or register to post comments Email this page "should" being the operative August 7, 2007 - 16:16 ET by TruthMonger "should" being the operative word here:) Login or register to post comments Email this page OR.... Suffer the consequences August 7, 2007 - 16:24 ET by Six String Spiff The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page Rhetoric? August 7, 2007 - 16:09 ET by Six String Spiff How is that rhetoric? You specifically said you think my choice of punishment should cover ALL PORN. So how about that hunting question? I know a lot of people here hunt defenseless animals, and not all get consumed. What's God's moral opinion on that? I own many guns. Inanimate objects are all of my targets. By your 'inadvertant advocation' argument you are doing the same by shooting animals. Where does it stop? Won't you someday be curious as to what shooting a human would feel like? Of course not because most people have self control and wont engage in murder. Rhetoric.... please The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page more rhetoric August 7, 2007 - 16:40 ET by TruthMonger yes how wrong i was - thanks the wages of sin is death but i ain't doing the killing my friend - I leave that up to the allmighty and what does God think of killing animals for fun? ask him yourself i guess - i ain't got a clue:) I don't think He likes it one bit Login or register to post comments Email this page Maybe because children were August 7, 2007 - 12:42 ET by general company Maybe because children were exploited/abused to make it !! Login or register to post comments Email this page what about all the young August 7, 2007 - 12:46 ET by TruthMonger what about all the young adults who are exploited and then discarded to make the rest of the porn out there? any concerns for them at all? Login or register to post comments Email this page 2 Words August 7, 2007 - 13:00 ET by Six String Spiff Consenting adults. I believe this is all done in contracts. The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page so once you're 18 that August 7, 2007 - 13:04 ET by TruthMonger so once you're 18 that makes you un-exploitable that's a new one on me Login or register to post comments Email this page No... August 7, 2007 - 13:52 ET by Six String Spiff When you are 18, it's up to your own dumbass not to engage in those things. The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page 18 - the "magical" age - for August 7, 2007 - 14:05 ET by TruthMonger 18 - the "magical" age - for some unknown reason... Login or register to post comments Email this page Is this thing on? August 7, 2007 - 12:59 ET by Six String Spiff Hello? Is this thing on? I am not talking about child pornography. I don't believe anybody here brought up CP and defended it, so move back to legal porn. The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page thanks to enablers like you August 7, 2007 - 13:06 ET by TruthMonger thanks to enablers like you cp will be legal soon - you can read my posts as well correct? Is my PC on? Login or register to post comments Email this page My personal experience August 7, 2007 - 13:12 ET by sarcasmo My personal experience tells me that "cp" isn't as important to the government as certain political agendas... JMR Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul. Login or register to post comments Email this page interesting - yes cp is not August 7, 2007 - 13:17 ET by TruthMonger interesting - yes cp is not exactly a major concern that's for sure Login or register to post comments Email this page Child porn will not be legal.... August 7, 2007 - 13:56 ET by Six String Spiff CP will never be legal. That is just rediculous. Can we get off of CP and back onto LEGAL porn? There must be a difference if CP gets brought up every single time. It must be different, otherwie it would not get the attention it is getting right now. Who started the whole kiddie porn topic anyway? The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page You are correct. August 7, 2007 - 14:02 ET by balboa You are correct. Login or register to post comments Email this page gay marriage will never be August 7, 2007 - 14:06 ET by TruthMonger gay marriage will never be legal - that is just ridiculous... -anonymous quote circa 1983 Login or register to post comments Email this page People voting Arnold August 7, 2007 - 14:10 ET by balboa People voting Arnold Schwarzenegger in as governor, that's ridiculous. 1999, approx. Login or register to post comments Email this page Arnold Schwarzenegger in as August 7, 2007 - 16:29 ET by MightyMouth Arnold Schwarzenegger is a governor?!?! Next you'll be telling me he's a Republican! "There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says... Login or register to post comments Email this page Next up...legal beastiality August 7, 2007 - 14:10 ET by Clear thinker Next up...legal beastiality coming to a town near you. Get Email updates from Fred http://socialnet.imwithfred.com/email_alert_july_26.html Login or register to post comments Email this page And DOWN the slope we go! August 7, 2007 - 14:12 ET by balboa And DOWN the slope we go! Login or register to post comments Email this page or floating down August 7, 2007 - 14:19 ET by TruthMonger or floating down denial! it aint just a river in egypt anymore:). Login or register to post comments Email this page beastiality August 7, 2007 - 16:15 ET by Six String Spiff Do you know ANYBODY who doesn't immediately denounce the individual caught with CP, or bangin a sheep? Let's be real here. The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page that's how it used to be August 7, 2007 - 16:18 ET by TruthMonger that's how it used to be with your so-called "regular" porn too so what the hell happened? Login or register to post comments Email this page I said legal, not regular. August 7, 2007 - 16:32 ET by Six String Spiff People became less prudish and realized it's only nature. I don't know. I guess the envelope has to be pushed until there is more regulation, which is inevitable. Why was the drinking age pushed up? The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page child porn prudes:( August 7, 2007 - 16:42 ET by TruthMonger so when do you hypocritical people stop being prudes about cp? can you give me a time frame on it? Login or register to post comments Email this page Probably about the time the August 7, 2007 - 16:57 ET by balboa Probably about the time the Earth starts spinning in the other direction... Login or register to post comments Email this page Funny, I heard that was August 7, 2007 - 16:59 ET by MightyMouth Funny, I heard that was going to happen if Hillary became president. What a cowinkydink. "There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says... Login or register to post comments Email this page Oh, yes, if HRC is elected, August 7, 2007 - 17:01 ET by balboa Oh, yes, if HRC is elected, the river's will turn to blood, people will be having sex with goats in the streets. Login or register to post comments Email this page AND LOVING IT!! --Maxwell August 7, 2007 - 17:03 ET by MightyMouth AND LOVING IT!! --Maxwell Smart. "There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says... Login or register to post comments Email this page Truthbetold August 7, 2007 - 17:05 ET by Six String Spiff What are you talking about? Saying CP wil lbe legal is like say murder will be legal. I think CP is rape. Rape and murderers need to die. I can't tell you what other people will think, but I highly doubt CP will be voted on and legalized. Would you get a grip? The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page help bal! August 7, 2007 - 17:10 ET by TruthMonger can anyone here plese lend me a grip - bal maybe? hey get off that goat bal! Login or register to post comments Email this page Sorry, getting a grip, much August 7, 2007 - 17:12 ET by balboa Sorry, getting a grip, much like getting a clue and self-realization, can only be achieved through self-induced profound revelations of the true nature of the world. As Bagger Vance said, everyone has one true swing, and they alone must find it. Login or register to post comments Email this page (double take) (awe struck August 7, 2007 - 17:23 ET by TruthMonger (double take) (awe struck by another's wisdom - its fun! try it) Login or register to post comments Email this page Saying CP wil lbe legal is August 7, 2007 - 17:10 ET by balboa Saying CP wil lbe legal is like say murder will be legal. Well, we ARE at war you know. Login or register to post comments Email this page there you go - see spiff?1 August 7, 2007 - 17:12 ET by TruthMonger there you go - see spiff?! Login or register to post comments Email this page TM August 8, 2007 - 08:00 ET by Six String Spiff Gee Truth... Gave up arguing and started with the chickles eh? Balboa and I have made some very good points which you chose to ignore for whatever reason. I highly suspect it is because you 'found' somebody. ...or thing The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page yah you won all August 8, 2007 - 14:29 ET by TruthMonger yah you won all right legend in your own mind Login or register to post comments Email this page War, Murder, and Balboa. August 8, 2007 - 08:05 ET by Six String Spiff Balboa, I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. I am a proponent for mowing down the filth known as the al Qaeda insurgents in Iraq. I believe that is self defense. However, thinking back to the DC sniper shootings, those people were just insane and deserved to die. Very slowly. You do see a difference here, right? The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page Being sarcastic. :-) August 8, 2007 - 11:59 ET by balboa Being sarcastic. :-) Login or register to post comments Email this page Cool August 8, 2007 - 13:24 ET by Six String Spiff The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page Same argument has been made August 8, 2007 - 11:54 ET by TheDeuce Same argument has been made for prostitution, marijuana, abortion, etc, etc... Conservatives noted the same issues when leftists argued for no-fault divorces. The right, correctly, argued that legalizing no-fault divorces would show an enormous increase in marriages being broken up. Little did even their argument see the sheer volume of societal problems that it caused in its wake. Some states make divorces as simple as handing back your class ring was in high school. You guys are arguing a slippery slope. Every inch ever given was immediately questioned as 'prudish' and looked beyond. That's a fact. Login or register to post comments Email this page Are you sure? August 7, 2007 - 16:41 ET by sarcasmo Are you sure? How did Hugh Hefner make a huge fortune, if not for "regular" soft-core porn in Playboy? People feel differently about the idea of a depiction of sex between consenting adults than they do about depictions the sexual exploitation of kids by adults, and rightly so. Children's brains are different, not just their bodies. I have seen the regular porn business, and it's not anything like the pure evil of exploiting children, even if it's not everyone's (or really my) cup of tea. Just the titles of this stuff should constitute proof that these people often have a pretty good sense of humor. Prepare (perhaps with your own sense of humor, if not logic and history) to hear something politically-incorrect: Porn is also the only reason you ever saw a high speed internet, a VCR, or a DVD, because the porn business (go to their immense conventions in Vegas if you doubt me) *is always* at the forefront of early-adopter high technology.** We're talking about the power of free enterprise, and it's quite impressive at times (beyond the girls' good looks) what that can accomplish in a free & highly-competitive marketplace. I very much wish I could say all I knew about this subject of actually-stopping child-porn. It's indeed a scandal of evil of a sort even beyond what you might see on "Dateline NBC" with the various predator guys, but I can't at this time. :( I can say the news media often tend towards laziness, cluelessness & emotion over fact on this issue. The issue of actually stopping child porn requires real journalism -- a rare commodity these days... JMR Rally online with fans of Dr. Ron Paul. Login or register to post comments Email this page I have seen the regular August 7, 2007 - 16:45 ET by TruthMonger I have seen the regular porn business, and it's not anything like the pure evil of exploiting children You ain't seen the porn biz, sarc... Here's a nice tame one for ya (warning - dispicable "regular porn" images): Login or register to post comments Email this page TM I 'd get that link off if I were you August 7, 2007 - 17:09 ET by Six String Spiff Mastheads will remove it and maybe you The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page just let em try:) August 7, 2007 - 17:13 ET by TruthMonger just let em try:) its just good ol regular porn - no big deal Login or register to post comments Email this page looks like they got it August 7, 2007 - 17:40 ET by TruthMonger looks like they got it indeed FYI free speech lovers it was a link to a rape porn site - and there's plenty more "regular" porn where that came from - nothing disgusting like cp - just good ol wholesome incest, beastiality, S&M, mutilation, exploited drunk girls, girls doing porn for rent money, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc... Login or register to post comments Email this page Truthmonger's paintbrush SPIFF back for more August 8, 2007 - 08:17 ET by Six String Spiff Ah, I see TM has broken out the Aristotelian paintbrush. A small number of sickos enjoy Rape, Bestiality, etc.. Those things can be found on very few porn websites. Therefore, all porn viewers must enjoy those things. WRONG. Question: In what name has MILLIONS of people been killed under? Answer: Religion. I don't go around saying all religion is bad. As I have stated numerous times on this very thread. The American Revolution Continued Login or register to post comments Email this page Q: In what name has MILLIONS of people been killed under? August 8, 2007 - 08:24 ET by Free Stinker A: Atheism. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler . . . Login or register to post comments Email this page and porn August 8, 2007 - 14:31 ET by TruthMonger and porn Login or register to post comments Email this page