Is Chris Matthews so excited to pounce on any perceived Sarah Palin controversy that he can not get his facts straight? As NewsBusters previously reported, Matthews, in mocking Governor Palin’s alleged ignorance on the role of the vice president, stated incorrect facts on the history of the vice presidency. A further investigation finds that Chris Matthews mangled his facts over the HBO miniseries, "John Adams," as well. First his quote to McCain adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer on the October 22 edition of "Hardball."
"Either she’s right about the vice presidency or I’m wrong. I say the role of the vice presidency, under the Constitution, is limited to breaking ties in the U.S. Senate. It has nothing to do with policy making, nothing to do with Senate leadership on either side of the aisle. There is no policy role whatever for the vice president. If you’ve even watch ‘John Adams’ on television a few months ago, you would know that going in to the very beginning of our democracy. The vice president has a formal role only. She believes somehow that the vice president of the United States has some sort of commanding policy development role and can lead the U.S. Senate. Where does she get this from?"
Matthews apparently forgot a key scene in "John Adams." In the opening scene of the fifth episode of "John Adams," the episode covering Adams’ vice presidency, the newly elected vice president John Adams is proposing, you guessed it, legislation to the Senate. Specifically, Adams is proposing a title for the president of the United States. Many senators mocked Vice President Adams’ proposal and soundly rejected it.
After making such a blatant error in his attempt to embarrass Sarah Palin, will the MSNBC host issue a correction or apology? Not likely.
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Silence on any issue that
October 23, 2008 - 16:40 ET by UtherpendSilence on any issue that portrays a Dem in a bad light is the Armor that the MSM uses to deflect criticism.
Once again, Wile E.
October 23, 2008 - 16:40 ET by Chris NormanOnce again, Wile E. Matthews opens up a box from Acme and it blows up.
McNotObama '08
Chris: The problem is
October 23, 2008 - 16:50 ET by stratmanChris:
The problem is that the majority of Matthews' listeners take what he says unquestionably as if it were gospel (atheist gospel, of course).
The populace's misplaced trust is the reason the New York Times is still in existence and Obama is the Dem's candidate.
Oh, I know, but we can't
October 23, 2008 - 16:56 ET by Chris NormanOh, I know, but we can't help that, can we? The liberal devotees of Matthews and MSNBC are snug in their ignorance.
McNotObama '08
Chrissy Mangles History
October 23, 2008 - 18:21 ET by Captain KirockThank God there are only about 400,000 people who watch this mental midget's show.
Honestly, in a country of over 300 million, how do you have a tv show for 10 years that only has 400,000 viewers? I bet more people are watching the tractor pulls at 1 AM than watch Chrissy little hissy fits.
Amazing
October 23, 2008 - 16:43 ET by allanfArticle I (the legislative part of the constitution) states:
You see Chris the constition makes the Vice-President the presiding officer of the Senate.
Liberals need not be right to call others stupid. The just have to be loud
Since his show is so pro-Democrat
October 23, 2008 - 16:45 ET by Jack HermanIt should be retitled "Tball with Chris Matthews".
What A Rube
October 23, 2008 - 16:45 ET by stratmanFirst, Matthews is an idiot for using a docudrama as supportive evidence for his statement.
Second, Chris "The Idiot" Matthews is still on TV?
Strat, I thought about
October 23, 2008 - 16:59 ET by Chris NormanStrat,
I thought about that point after I posted my comment. I suppose Matthews thought that John Adams was "high brow" enough to draw from. If Palin or McCain had referred to it, he would've snickered.
McNotObama '08
During the Vice Presidential debate
October 23, 2008 - 16:46 ET by j. frank wilsonGov. Palin was clueless when Ms. Ifill asked about VP Cheney's unitary executive theory and the concept that the office of the Vice President is not part of the Executive Branch - for my money, the most important question she asked that evening. Sen. Biden understood the question immediately - as demonstrated by his answer.
Biden
October 23, 2008 - 17:04 ET by iveseenitallI, too, admire Joe's knowledge of history and government. Especially when he talks about FDR's masterful use of T.V. to communicate with the people. He,he, he ...
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Gifted Joe
October 23, 2008 - 17:11 ET by JDWHas a way with the future also.
JDW
DAILY WAVE
I bet in those days, "TV"
October 24, 2008 - 00:26 ET by ckc1227I bet in those days, "TV" was a 3 letter word.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
Gov. Palin was clueless
October 23, 2008 - 17:32 ET by NewsbusterbrownGov. Palin was clueless when Ms. Ifill asked about VP Cheney's unitary executive theory and the concept that the office of the Vice President is not part of the Executive Branch
She actually stated that it was part of both branches, which is undeniably true.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Uncle Joe has only been in the Senate for 30 years
October 23, 2008 - 18:30 ET by Captain KirockUncle Joe has only been in the Senate for 30 years or so. I would hope he would of heard of VP Cheney's novel, constitutional defense to a FOIA request.
Of course, don't ask Uncle Joe too many questions about the Constitution. He likes to make things up.
Oh, and don't ask Uncle Joe about any foreign policy matters, as he has been wrong on almost every major foreign policy issue of the last 30 years.
I guess hindsight really is 20/20. Thankfully, we have 30 years of hindsight to see how wrong Uncle Joe has been on just about everything.
How many people know what Cheney's unitary executive theory?
October 23, 2008 - 20:23 ET by republican_brotherTalk about an absolutely stupid notiion. How many of the 49 sitting Governors excluding Palin know the answer to that question? 0
If Biden was so great of a candidate and more then qualified to be Vice President, he wouldn't have only gotten 8,000 votes. That's just a fact. Biden has been tripping over his words a lot lately. The same thankfully can't be said for Governor Palin.Governor Palin knows how to think before speaking unlike BIden.Palin is actually more then qualified to not only be VP but President as well. I keep asking the question what does Barack Obama have in experience that Sarah Palin doesn't. Some day I hope to finally get that question answered. Palin runs a state and ran a city, Biden just runs his mouth on and on and on and on and on and on and on and that's it.
do tell frank
October 23, 2008 - 20:58 ET by candancePlease explain why Cheney's "theory" about the role of VP is more precise than what the Constitution actually says and how Biden understood the question when he himself asserted something incorrect.
Furthermore please explain why Chris Matthews misrepresents John Adams' actions and you respond basically saying that it doesn't really matter because Sarah Palin is stupid.
Change is what you're left with when you've spent all your dollars.
"Sen. Biden understood the
October 24, 2008 - 00:22 ET by ckc1227"Sen. Biden understood the question immediately - as demonstrated by his answer."
Then you are as big an idiot as he is, which comes as no surprise. Article I doesn't address the executive branch, Article II does. That he doesn't know that despite being a self-professed Constitutional scholar, a lawyer, and a senator for 30 plus years is a joke.
It would have been nice if he had also used his imagination to give us an example showing how Cheney's usurping power that he doesn't have has been very dangerous, and is the cause of all our current problems. Perhaps he can share it with us while having a beer at Katie's Restaurant, lol. Heck, I would have been happy if he had just given an example of Cheney doing something he doesn't have the power to do period, whether it lead to disaster or not.
Obama's Economic plan: more taxes, more spending, more regulation. Prosperity here we come.
ckc1227:
October 24, 2008 - 08:43 ET by j. frank wilsonVice President Cheney rampent obsession with secrecy is an obvious example. Folks have already gone to court to attempt to prevent him from destroying records that belong to the American people.
It's obvious Mr. Cheney is one of - if not the - worst Vice Presidents in our history. And that's a tough thing to pull off.
records that belong to
October 24, 2008 - 08:50 ET by motherbeltrecords that belong to the American people.
IIRC, the argument and the lawsuit are about IF those records belong to "the American people."
The Other Side
October 23, 2008 - 16:54 ET by JDWLibs will defend their errors by reflecting on past events relative to the RNC, from a leftist focus of course. Rarely do they address the issue at hand.
Matthews made the error yet it will not be brought to light in news media, count on it!
JDW
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'Hey Chuck, Stand Up!'
Is the Community Reinvestment Act part of free enterprise?
Nice catch, Justin
October 23, 2008 - 17:01 ET by SickofLibsThis whackjob is operating like he's got nothing left to lose. It's really pitiful.
He is so off the rails, so out of his mind, that if his heartthrob somehow manages to lose, I am firmly convinced he will hurl himself out of the highest window at MSNBC in utter, abject despair.
"Oh my God, I didn't do enough!" will be the final mournful wail as he plummets earthward.
Valentino/Matthews
October 23, 2008 - 17:07 ET by bigtimerI just heard Matthews refer to Obama as Valentino...
He said how does Joe the Plumber stack up against Valentino...
I kid you not...I may not have every word right..but it is pretty close.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
LADY NB-ers, take the poll
October 23, 2008 - 17:15 ET by SickofLibsBT: you may not have every word right, but I'm sure you got the important one: VALENTINO???
Lady Newsbusters, weigh in: an effeminate 1920's actor dressed up like a fake Arab with tons of lipstick or Joe the Plumber?
Matthews speaks for
October 23, 2008 - 17:17 ET by Chris NormanMatthews speaks for the Norma Desmonds of the nation.
McNotObama '08
Chris... LOL...Bingo! "A
October 23, 2008 - 17:29 ET by bigtimerChris...
LOL...Bingo!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
SoL... I know full well
October 23, 2008 - 17:28 ET by bigtimerSoL...
I know full well who Valentino was, plus I have read so many Hollywood murder mysteries and biographies, let alone the old movies my grandma would watch with him in it...lol...
I cannot believe Matthews...he is losing it more and more each day...those men in little white coats had better be at the ready...
Maybe Mark caught this and will have a blog post about it later...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
valentino
October 23, 2008 - 19:49 ET by livingfreeI'll take Joe the Plumber in a heart beat and be proud of it.
When it comes to "A" holes Matthews wins hands down.
He may leap from a tall building with or with-out a win, I thing he's having a break down. Call the White Coats for the poor soul.
Reminds me of a joke!
October 23, 2008 - 19:35 ET by PJManYears ago there were two people, a liberal and a conservative, they were both in a mental institution, the conservative was sitting on a chair naked putting peanuts on his privates and flicking them, this went on for months and the Doctor asked him what he was doing and he said, I'm F-N nuts and am never getting out of here. The second patient stands in front of a mirror all day talking and slobbering all over himself and saying some day, some day. The doctor asks him what he was doing and the lib says, I'm practicing for my next job, and the Doc. asked, what job would that be, TV news anchor Doc, you think I'm qualified don't you, don't you? the doc. said he would get back to him. Being a good Doctor he got a hold of NBC news talent scout to set this guy straight, because he had no talent, no sense of disapline, no idea of right or wrong, never would admit to a mistake, and always rubbing the tingle running up and down his leg. NBC scout shows up, and hired him on the spot. The moral of this story, always be true to yourself!
Doesn't NBC/MSNBC have
October 23, 2008 - 17:15 ET by TN MomDoesn't NBC/MSNBC have medical personal on staff to treat employees??
Paging Dr. Phill to HardBall. Code: BLUE.
If Matthews gets his information on the Constitution from movies, I guess that means he gets his talking points from the back of a cereal box??
What an idiot!
Chris said, "Either she’s
October 23, 2008 - 17:31 ET by HockeyKidChris said, "Either she’s right about the vice presidency or I’m wrong." Um, shouldn't that be, "Either she's right, or I am"?
Regardless, Chris, you're wrong. Man up and admit it.
News
October 23, 2008 - 18:22 ET by MES41067It should only be news when he gets something right.
Either the GOP puts somebody on DNCTV..
October 23, 2008 - 19:49 ET by TheSter..to PLAY HARDBALL...or don't go on AT ALL!!!
Seriously!!! Every time they put a PATSY on HardBOILED...Crissy gets his way...makes news...and the GOP loses another House Seat!!!
EITHER PLAY WITH THE BIG DOGS, OR STAY ON THE PORCH!!
Hell, I'll GO!!! I'll put my 10 years of Bartender Sarcastic Snipes experience against Crissy any day!!! I'm sure most of you have been to a Bar before!! I was that Wise-Crackin'- Smack-Down Bartender you all knew!!!
Ster.
Do liberals have a problem with women having power?
October 23, 2008 - 20:33 ET by republican_brotherI could be wrong but I see a pattern forming
1. Hillary Clinton was treated like dirt and was told to get lost for the the "man child"Obama to take his "rightful place."
2. Chelsea was basically called a whore for helping Hillary with her campaign.
3. Geraldine Ferarro was verbally smacked down and called a racist for helping Hillary, and she was highly disrespected when she ran for Vice President.
4. Carrol Mosley Braun wasn't even giving a chance four years ago when she ran for the Democrat Nomination, yet she comes from the SAME STATE as Barack Obama and was a former U.S Senator.
5. Sarah Palin has been treated worse then any candidate in U.S political history. The meida and liberals called her some of the most vile, disrespectul names based on her gender. They said she needs to be at home raising her kids. They would have never ever said that about a male running for political office. They would have never told a male candidate that he should have aborted his child that has special needs.
There obviously is a glass ceiling in the Democrat Party. NO WOMEN ALLOWED TO SURPASS MEN.
I think in Sarah's case, there's more going on...
October 23, 2008 - 20:43 ET by PrairieSkythan just "No Women Allowed To Surpass Men"...
It's more like, "No Conservative Republican Women Allowed To Surpass ANYONE!"
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Good Evening Prairie
October 23, 2008 - 21:00 ET by cocodrieThe main problem with Sarah Palin is, she shamed every last one of the democrat women in DC. She shamed them on every count - class, intelligence, courage, looks, you name it she killed them.
Evenin' coco!
October 23, 2008 - 21:11 ET by PrairieSkyShe sure did!!! The MSM and its brethren are absolutely pea green with envy of her!! Sarah is everything that they are not (and secretly wish they were), and they know it, and they hate her for it.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
PrairieSky..Even Money sais Sarah WIPS Crissy!!
October 23, 2008 - 21:22 ET by TheSterI'd bet BEVO ( UT mascot ) on Sarah takes Crissy to the WOODSHED mono-a-mono!!
She can talk fast and hard. Crissy would have to wear a BIB and Depends to keep up with Her!!!
PERIOD.
Ster.
Ster...Sarah would wipe the floor with Chrissy!
October 23, 2008 - 22:15 ET by PrairieSkyMatthews makes me crazy! Everyone has known someone like him at some point...The person who thinks that they are the smartest one in the room! He would be so out of his league with her, it would be painful to watch... (but I would!)
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
sarah wiping the floor with chrissy
October 23, 2008 - 22:19 ET by porpoiseboythat exactly it! truth be known he's just pissed because she used to kick his a## every day after they got off the bus after school.
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
Prairie
October 23, 2008 - 21:23 ET by cocodrieThe feminazis got one thing seriously wrong. Conservative men like strong women, we don't despise them. Liberals appoint losers they can control. I'm kinda tired of the NAGS referring to men as male chinese pigs.
coco... People call you a
October 23, 2008 - 21:27 ET by Clear thinkercoco...
People call you a 'Pot Belly'? ;-)
Greta Sticks Up For Sarah
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CT, fairly accurate
October 23, 2008 - 21:36 ET by cocodrieCT, fairly accurate description. Many years of good cajun eating.
LOL... Enjoy it while you
October 23, 2008 - 21:41 ET by Clear thinkerLOL...
Enjoy it while you can. I'm afraid an Obama presidency could end up restricting what we can eat. If he does I will be the first to tell him face to face... "fork you"!
Greta Sticks Up For Sarah
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you're right CT
October 23, 2008 - 21:56 ET by cocodrieWhat worries me is I'm going to need more than the allowable pee breaks, one of my meds is a diuretic.
coco... You are really
October 23, 2008 - 22:05 ET by Clear thinkercoco...
You are really SOL. Once Obama takes over healthcare, some jerk in Washington will decide if or wqhen you get your meds.
All I can suggest at this point is... keep your powder dry!
Greta Sticks Up For Sarah
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Don't have to worry about that CT
October 23, 2008 - 22:20 ET by cocodrieI will be disposed of as excess baggage. The unborn and the elderly will not be tolerated. Jesus must be crying looking down on his beloved America. I don't believe He will let America fall though as we are Israel's only hope and He is using us for their survival.
coco...Ditto!
October 23, 2008 - 22:21 ET by PrairieSkyThe feminazis have gotten A LOT of things wrong. I can't stand these women who say and act like they speak for ALL women...They have NEVER spoken for me!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Woot!!! Jeri Thompson!!!
October 23, 2008 - 21:51 ET by TheSter...Fred Thompson's wife SCHOOLED Colmes!!!
She wiped out poor Alan Colmes!!! WOW!!!
We need more of her!!! Hannity told her to come back more often!!!
Ster.
No kidding, ster.
October 23, 2008 - 22:23 ET by BlondeI'd not seen her before....she was great.
Of course, a two year old could take down Alan Colmes.
It's funny....the female liberal talking heads all shriek, while the conservative pundits are cool, calm, collected, well dressed, and look great! No wonder the liberals hate conservative women, LOL.
In his own words (19 seconds): This man is qualified to be VP?
lib talking heads
October 23, 2008 - 22:27 ET by porpoiseboyhey what's up with that bob beckel guy? have you ever seen anyone so naturally pissed off as him?!
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
Is Mathews still on the air?
October 23, 2008 - 21:09 ET by Anchor89Don't confuse Mathews with the facts, it might disrupt the Obama induced tingle running up his leg....
Chris mocks her - Greta
October 23, 2008 - 21:29 ET by Clear thinkerChris mocks her - Greta goes to bat for her...Greta Sticks Up For Sarah
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waiting
October 23, 2008 - 21:48 ET by dans0622I'm waiting for the day when Matthews' head actually explodes. Certainly, a McCain win would put him right over the edge and there would be no coming back.
Crissy
October 24, 2008 - 13:50 ET by afuelright eye TICK is absolutely annoying. He is on the road to a stroke.
Matthews and the whole PMSNBC gang are on air 24/7 with out sleep, substance or facts, just hate and vitriol. When in doubt use a TV docudrama as your fact source..... Sadly there is a portion of the populace that takes what is spewed from the biased media such as docudramas, MTV and PMSNBC as sources of fact these days.
Listen to the on the street interviews (H. Stern) and because Obama or Biden said something it is perceived as factual. Or the 2008 election overused intro tag of "The Fact of the Matter".
GE will be getting rid of MSNBC soon, they will be taking a loss..
No Obama bin Biden ever
Beckel has been working on losing Dem election teams for years. No wonder he is PO'd all the time.