On the June 17 edition of "The View," Joy Behar stated the obvious that "more people die in hospitals than anywhere else." Of course, that makes perfect sense given that people who are dying tend to get rushed to the hospital. Instead Joy Behar, who blamed earthquakes on global warming offered a more intriguing answer: "because it’s germ free."
The panel conversed about the high prevalence of germs in our world and its dangers. Behar, attempting to refute that germs are always harmful, clumsily cited the high death rate in hospitals. Not only did she fail to note that dying people tend to check into hospitals in one last effort to cling on to their lives, they are hardly germ free given the high concentration of sick people.
Whoopi Goldberg and Elisabeth Hasselbeck both disagreed that hospitals are void of germs.
On show where allegedly many people get their news, it is sad that such inaccuracies are aired regularly. One co-host, given a forum to air her expert opinion, "never thought" about whether the earth is round or flat, and thought Jesus preceded the Greeks. A former "View" co-host once said it is "physically impossible" for fire to melt steel.
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We are WAY too concerned
June 17, 2008 - 16:07 ET by balboaWe are WAY too concerned with germs as a culture. I've heard many doctors say that the reason kids have so many allergies these days is because parents try to rid their homes of all germs, and they don't build up any natural immunities.
Germs! More germs!
Good point!
June 17, 2008 - 16:12 ET by Justin McCarthyBalboa, No disagreement here. I think Joy could have made that point without using the hospital reference. That was just dumb.
Oh yeah, it was another
June 17, 2008 - 16:32 ET by balboaOh yeah, it was another glorious tidbit from Behar. Had a friend get knee surgery, just a scope, and in two days the knee ballooned to a grapefruit size. Infection from the surgery! And I'm pretty sure he didn't bring those "germs" with him...
Agreement
June 17, 2008 - 16:16 ET by BradzillaI tend to agree with you on that, but it doesn't make Joy any less of an idiot for such a statement. Well, that one and a history of others. She has apparently never heard of an iatrogenic or nosocomial infection. Big words for infections acquired in a medical care setting. Sorry, I'm in health care.
I was too, in health care,
June 17, 2008 - 16:25 ET by motherbeltI was too, in health care, and know that hospitals are the probably the most germ-laden places in the world.
Once again, Joy speaks, and removes all doubt.
I can agree with you about
June 17, 2008 - 18:28 ET by mjgI can agree with you about hospitals and Joyless.
Brad and mother
June 17, 2008 - 18:36 ET by DEVILDOCMOMI still work in an ER; I guess I can stop washing my hands now that I work in a germ free environment, right? Is this woman really that stupid? Guess I answered my own question, right?
You hit the nail on the
June 17, 2008 - 16:56 ET by Darth DutchYou hit the nail on the head on this, Bal.
My wife works at a hospital and when she first worked there, she was sick for much of her first year. Now she isn't because her body's immune system is in high gear year round due to all of the germs that are there. One doctor she knows said that parents should let their pets lick and play with their babies (safely of course) so that the babies are exposed to as many germs as possible.
Darth Dutch
Agreed.
June 17, 2008 - 19:26 ET by GregEAgreed.
Thanks for the laugh Joy!
June 17, 2008 - 16:13 ET by RickTaLifeThanks for the laugh Joy! You're a first-class moron! :-D
...they die because "there
June 17, 2008 - 19:35 ET by TruthMonger...they die because "there are no germs"
THIS ONE REALLY HURTS MY HEAD
worse than Rosie's "fire doesn't melt steel"
Gee, and I thought people died in hospitals cause they wuz sick.
June 17, 2008 - 16:16 ET by R D HelmGood grief!
The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz
100% of all people who ate
June 17, 2008 - 16:20 ET by mattm100% of all people who ate carrots in 1813 are dead now.
BLAHAHAHAHAHA!
June 17, 2008 - 19:27 ET by GregEBLAHAHAHAHAHA!
because there were no
June 17, 2008 - 19:35 ET by TruthMongerbecause there were no germs!
I'm with you Joy! Let's
June 18, 2008 - 14:40 ET by mulerider24I'm with you Joy! Let's start up a national protest against hospitals because so many people are suffering in them. While we're at it, let's outlaw refrigerators because 99.9% of homes in which someone was shot contained one. Finally some change I can wrap my brain around!
Behar has a mental
June 17, 2008 - 16:21 ET by ConservativeRexBehar has a mental disability. It's no longer fun to poke fun at her anymore. She needs a stint of hospitalization. Mental illness can be an ugly thing, and Behar proves it with her every utterance.
Behar Mentally Ill?
June 17, 2008 - 16:26 ET by Justin McCarthyThat's what she said about the saints
It's not the germs, Joy.
June 17, 2008 - 16:25 ET by sarcasmoIt's the drugs hospitals push.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
I truly hope you are joking with this sarc,
June 18, 2008 - 12:37 ET by DEVILDOCMOMI read your link and do not doubt it. BUT, it is not the nurses and docs pushing drugs it is patients DEMANDING them from us. We have our frequent flyers and many, many others who want their drugs. Believe me they will sue or make life miserable for the doc who denies them. Sure, our ER docs won't write scripts for more than say, 15, of a pain killer AND they do send out letters to those who abuse the system, but the government, in their infinite wisdom has made it difficult.
Many want scripts for antibiotics which will not work for their cold or other complaint, but they want drugs anyway. Spend a day with me.
No, not joking
June 18, 2008 - 12:47 ET by sarcasmoThe article says what kills 'em, not me, so any argument you have is with the author, who was totally serious. I happen to think prescription drugs are a lot more dangerous than average people think, so I avoid medical situations whenever possible. A relevant excerpt:
Those numbers don't seem to be lying. As for legal pain killers, the danger is in the prescriber getting jailed for alleged over-prescription, not sued for underprescription, from everything I've ever seen. You're more than welcome to provide refuting links regarding the legal dangers of prescribing painkillers, should any actually exist...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
I think you missed my point,
June 18, 2008 - 13:22 ET by DEVILDOCMOMas I said, I do not doubt the truth of the story (without further research I am not willing to do at the moment, so I am agreeing with the story as you post it). My point was, it is not hospitals (or docs, or nurses) PUSHING drugs, it is patients DEMANDING the drugs.
The docs I work with do not "over prescribe", as I stated they limit the amount they will write for and are careful to do so. Again my point is patients demanding drugs, not that "hospitals" are forcing drugs on innocent people who come in to the facilities; purely what I see working in an ER. If you know others who work in hospitals, see what they say.
Hospitals DO seem to push them
June 19, 2008 - 03:37 ET by sarcasmoIn order to increase sales, but they're certainly not the only ones pushing drugs these days. There's an entire pharmaceutical industry giving doctors everything from magnets & pens with logos to trips to Hawaii in the name of prescribing more drugs. Docs & drug companies can talk a professional game all they want, but I see the truth. That's not to say patients aren't also responsible. Imagine if people pestered their doctors every time a TV ad says "ask your doctor" about some stupid drug they probably don't need. A good example of what I'm talking about is "restless leg syndrome." I've got a free & certain cure for "restless leg syndrome" -- it's called "get off your couch & get some exercise for once."
And the people I know in the medical profession verify what I said about fear of arrest (or of endless legal hassle) just for doing their jobs & relieving pain, which is a point you didn't address, but which I totally stand by. Needless to say, those stats from the article tend to make the tax and spend drugwar look like the expensive failure it is. That's not gonna change anytime soon, but it was nice seeing a "mainstream" media story finally covering what's been obvious to me for decades.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Quick Question Sarc
June 19, 2008 - 23:00 ET by mulerider24If I'm a financial advisor and went out to lunch with a mutual fund wholesaler, would that make me unethical if I used one of their funds for a client?
Joy needs to take Olbie by
June 17, 2008 - 16:32 ET by bigtimerJoy needs to take Olbie by the hand and go check in to the nearest nut-hatch...run...don't walk.
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
What a retard!
June 17, 2008 - 16:41 ET by SlicksterShe has no clue about anything.
Brainless twit
June 17, 2008 - 16:46 ET by Indiana JoeIdiot
Moron
Waste of oxygen
Uninformed blow-hard
Clueless
So I guess the Staph
June 17, 2008 - 16:51 ET by dscottSo I guess the Staph superbug didn't originate in hospitals???? MRSA, or methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus From over using antibiotics? Gee whiz, how stupid can you be making such ignorant assertions? This is even embarrassing for liberals.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
My 83 year old father
June 17, 2008 - 17:56 ET by MidAmericaMy 83 year old father broke his ankle coming down off of a step ladder and after three days in the hospital he almost died. He had gotten the antibiotic resistant staph and it nearly killed him. He never really got over it and we don't know how many years it took off his life but he went downhill to his death in about three years.
I've read that in England the bugs are so bad people travel to other countries for surgery.
Oh Joy........
June 17, 2008 - 20:25 ET by zoro7957........I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that most people who die of natural causes in hospitals are really old. While I'm at it, I'll venture to say the same about nursing homes/assisted living.
Come on now...
June 17, 2008 - 23:24 ET by Army BratShe goes "Moooo!", and we comment on it?
Let's just leave the mentally challenged alone.
Happy Trails...
It never fails ...
June 17, 2008 - 23:27 ET by Ole_SargeJust when I think Joy is an idiot, she will say something totally asinine and remove all doubt.
"More people die in
June 17, 2008 - 23:36 ET by RESTLESS 1"More people die in hospitals than anywhere else...because it's germ free"
Umm, Joy, ...SIGH. Oh never mind.
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liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Not only do more people die
June 18, 2008 - 06:30 ET by Jack BauerNot only do more people die in hospital... they also die more frequently between the hours of 8pm to 6am...
So if you want to increase your chance of living forever just make sure you're never in a hospital between those hours.
That's BEHAR LOGIC working for your benefit.
Who watches these nuts?
June 18, 2008 - 06:56 ET by expatriotDoes the view still have an audience? If it does it explains why the country is going down hill. Simple people listening to assinine people who think that they know what they speak about.
It's like Romper Room for
June 18, 2008 - 08:36 ET by dscottIt's like Romper Room for liberals, little minds are easily occupied with inane conversation.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Joy Behar is NOT smarter than a 5th grader
June 18, 2008 - 16:11 ET by whatajoyI'd like to see Joy Behar be tested on "Are you Smarter Than A Fifth Grader" because things she has said over the years on The View make her look stupid, ignorant and dumb. She says things without thinking and assumes they are facts because she thinks so. I wonder if she has ever owned or opened an encyclopedia. She probably thinks an encyclopedia is a sexually transmitted disease.
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