The Oct. 15 broadcast of host Joy Behar's show was no different. First it tackled the issues of the day, like Arianna Huffington's take on whether or not Vice President Joe Biden should resign based on what President Barack Obama does in Afghanistan. Then Behar and her two guests, actor and left-wing activist Richard Belzer and New York Daily News Columnist Liz Benjamin discussed Rush Limbaugh's failed effort to buy a stake in the NFL's St. Louis Rams and the feud between Fox News and the White House.
Behar made suggestion Limbaugh represents himself as someone who is not "in the mainstream" because he argued on his Oct. 14 show the backlash was in part generated by liberal activists threatened by the notion Limbaugh could be considered to be in the mainstream. That notion was one which Belzer lashed out at and called Limbaugh and Fox News host Glenn Beck "fascist stooges" (emphasis added):
Behar: Isn't Rush Limbaugh in the mainstream? He acts like he's not.
Belzer: This whole thing of conservatives saying they're not in the mainstream, you know, as we all know, it's the biggest crock. They have the courts, they had the presidency, they had the Congress, they have their own network.
Behar: But he's not a politician. I guess that's what he means - he's just a radio - just like Glenn Beck they're kind of like on the sidelines provoking and provoking.
Belzer: They're fascist stooges who in the true sense of that word, that's not hyperbole...
Benjamin: But why should he not own a team?
Behar: They don't want him.
Belzer: Well, because other businessmen...
Behar steered the discussion back in the direction of Limbaugh and his efforts to buy the Rams. She brought up a quote that had been drummed up by the left-wing noise machine, but was taken completely out of context by that same noise machine, as Limbaugh explained on his Oct. 14 program:
Behar: He said the NFL is like the gangs - the Crips and the Bloods.
Benjamin: He did say that. That's right.
Belzer: That's veiled racism.
Behar: That's very veiled racism.
Belzer: That's unveiled.
Benjamin: That's not veiled. Nevertheless the idea that this has not become -- it has become political. He's not sort of speaking out of turn to say that.
And Behar had credited perennial opportunist race-baiting extraordinaire Rev. Al Sharpton for being the force that ultimately forced Limbaugh out of the running for the Rams, an opinion Belzer disagreed with (emphasis added):
Benjamin: You're talking about Rev. Al Sharpton who was one of the loudest people crying for him not to have...
Belzer: Right.
Behar: I think it's because of Al Sharpton that he lost the bid to tell you the truth.
Belzer: The players were coming out. The [NFL] Players Association -- two of them.
Benjamin: Had a lot to do with it.
Belzer: You don't need Al Sharpton in a case like this. He was just as always showing up at the scene.
Earlier in the show, Behar inquired about Belzer's keen wisdom on the feud going on between the White House and the Fox News Channel that was provoked by comments from White House Director of Communications Anita Dunn, an admitted admirer of Mao Tse Tung.
"That was one example of the right wing taking on the whole left, in this case the NFL," Behar said. "But also Glenn Beck has been making statements that he is also a victim in this. And Fox news is the victim of the White House's attack, it's un-American, it's unpatriotic, et cetera. What do you think of all that?"
Benjamin questioned the attack on Fox News, but Belzer had no kind words for the network, calling it "racist" and "misogynistic" (emphasis added):
Benjamin: Didn't you just get finished saying there should be many parties and many voices, et cetera, but yet Fox is being - is not OK?
Belzer: You don't think that Fox lies continually - there are books written about it, they've made racist, misogynist, pro-war-mongering...
Benjamin: OK, they have, that's true. That's the allegations.
Belzer: They say they're attacking the conservatives. They had the President, the Vice President, the Supreme Court, the Congress and the Senate. And they're not mainstream?
Benjamin: Last time...
Belzer: They've ruined the country now they're complaining.
Benjamin: Last time I checked actually, we have a Constitution that protects - has a 1st Amendment that protects freedom of speech. You can actually say many sorts of misogynist and nasty things.
Belzer: So you're condoning what Fox does?
Benjamin: I'm condoning anything.
Behar: Wait a minute. Richie, she has a point.
Belzer: No, the White House is firing back at this thing that's been going on for years, that constantly lies, has veiled racism, misogyny, the most despicable things are said on that network every day...
Benjamin: Calling them out is fine.
Behar: They should be called out.
Benjamin: Doesn't mean they shouldn't exist.
Belzer: The White House isn't saying don't exist.
Benjamin: They're saying that they're a tool of the right. That's what they're saying.
Belzer: They're not? What are they? They're just a tool. They're just a tool.
This is a textbook example of what a recent Media Research Center study has confirmed - there was a concerted effort by the left-wing establishment to disparage the character of Limbaugh with three primary tactics - personal attacks, distortions of his quotes and the use of outright falsehoods and fabrications.




















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Racism
October 16, 2009 - 08:15 ET by cvgbuckeyeForgive me for doing this but the post I made on a previous thread is more appropriate here than there.
In our great United States of America, we have been openly tolerating the worst kind of blatant racism that can exist. It is further soiled, if that is even possible, because the tolerance for this racism is fed by cowardice because the enablers are blantantly cowardly for refusing to point it out for what it is: RACISM!
Making things even worse is the fact that the enablers of this blatant racism are the most visible people in our society; the National News Media which includes TV, Movies, Sports Presentations, our Educational System and probably most important, our National Politics.
All of this has been done to silence any and all kinds of Conservative Political Dialogue. It would be much more honorable if the left just went ahead and openly passed legislation criminalizing all Conservative Speech as well as Conservative Thought, (they can tell, you know).
But frankly we must admit that it has it's stroke of genius that whenever anyone objects in even the slightest way to anyone of colors opinion that the Objector is IMMEDIATELY SILENCED by accusing him of being a racist.
We have very short memories folks because Rush and Glenn and Sean and all the other Conservative commentators predicted this phenomenon way back during the election that if Obama was elected and you voiced ANY disagreemnet with him at all, you would be immediately be branded a racist.
Well yall, welcome to the world of Fascism by Racism. When they came for Rush, I was not Rush and therefore I did not Object; then they came for Glenn and not being Glenn, I did not object; then they came after..................................; then they came for me and there was no one left to object.
I, for one...
October 16, 2009 - 19:58 ET by jdlybrand...assume they've already come for me. Therefore; I got your back!
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Is it me, or is Belzer's
October 16, 2009 - 08:17 ET by BKeyserIs it me, or is Belzer's head shrinking?
BK
October 16, 2009 - 08:21 ET by BlondeI sense a photoshop....a pinheaded one, LOL.
You haven't been here that long, but if you search the archives, you can read all about Richard Belzer chastizing Ileana Ros-Lehtenin (R-Miami), whose step-son was on active duty in Iraq....for being ignorant on the issue of the war. Because he read fourteen newspapers a day. I believe it was on Bill Mahr's show, which may assist your search.
The man is a condescending *****. Oh, and we also had his loopy cousin show up here, defending his righteousness....it was right out of la la land.
I hope he fails, too.
J~~
October 16, 2009 - 08:33 ET by BKeyserYeah, Belzer's been an a$$ since the early 80's when he first hit the comedy stage with nothing but 'Reagan's old' jokes. (First thing I did after watching the clip was search "shrunken head" on google images...I'll have to see if I can make that work.) I did do one last night based on Barry's serve theme being forced on the networks next week. Here's his new production company.
That's good, BK!
October 16, 2009 - 08:38 ET by BlondeHow about "You Serve, We Decide How" across the bottom?
Oh, and that first link needed a Michelle alert. It's kind of early in the day for her picture, thank you very much.
I hope he fails, too.
Watched a clip from "Christine" on FOX...
October 16, 2009 - 19:41 ET by jdlybrandAn exchange between Dreyfus and Sykes about health care. Didn't take long for the script writers to 'get their minds right'.
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Let's play "Spot the racists!"
October 16, 2009 - 08:22 ET by motherbeltBehar: He said the NFL is like the gangs - the Crips and the Bloods.
Benjamin: He did say that. That's right.
Belzer: That's veiled racism.
Behar: That's very veiled racism.
Belzer: That's unveiled.
Well, well, well.....who are the racists here?
Rush only alluded to gangs....i.e. the thuggish actions of many pro footballers.
Who are the ones assuming that guys in gangs are black ?
This reminds me of the woman (can't remember her name) who claimed that The Lion King was racist because the thuggish jackals were made to represent "urban blacks."
In whose mind is the racist stereotype?
mb~~
October 16, 2009 - 08:57 ET by BKeyserNot only does this indicate the true mindset of the liberal but it completely ignores the fact that in Rush's segment about this he had just emphatically praised LaDainian Tomlinson and (I think) Marvin Harrison. So 'the Racist' calls one black man the classiest player in the league and then equates another black man to that same trait, followed by a comment likening some behavior on the field as a parody of the gang mentality on display in every urban area of the country.
You know how libs are always saying about their own "I think what he/she meant to say was..." or "it was taken out of context"? With Rush, we don't have to do that- the quotes are all there, all on tape. Libs just refuse to address them and make up their own.
Question
October 16, 2009 - 09:25 ET by misterbee241My question is, is the truth racist? If a person speaks the truth, does that make him or her a racist? IMHO Rush spoke the truth about the National Felons League.
"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."
Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941
Shut up and act-if you can
October 16, 2009 - 08:30 ET by ricklailI quit watching SVU years ago when he made comments about Bush. Libs of all types, colors and sizes can't stand it because Fox is eating the lunch of the lib MSM.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
Can someone tell me
October 16, 2009 - 08:32 ET by StCroix64Why the left leaning media at CNN and MSNBC is never taken to task for their comments about Rush, Fox, etc...being racist...YET the minute one of these people question the president or his policies its national news and they are all just being racist? I don't get it..
Neither do we
October 16, 2009 - 08:38 ET by general companyProbably because the Repubs dont get the oppertunity to defend themselves. Most of these accusations get made in like minded company
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Blame Hulk Hogan
October 16, 2009 - 08:41 ET by Red JeepIn 1985 Belzer had Hulk Hogan on as a guest on a talk show Belzer hosted at that time. Hogan demonstrated a wrestler hold on Belzer that rendered Belzer unconscious. Belzer fell to the floor, hitting his head on something which caused a cut.
Ever since then Belzer has been an unfunny comedian and all around ... (fill in the blank yourself).
Seems Hogan
October 16, 2009 - 08:46 ET by general companyFelt the same about him as many of us? Is there video of this?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Yes.
October 16, 2009 - 09:02 ET by Red Jeephttp://www.youtube.c...
Its 10:55 long. the choke occurs about 6:03. Blezer sued Hulk afterwards for several million. It is interesting to hear Mr T. and Hulk discussing what happened. Also they came to do the show because they were told that there would be crippled children at the show that wanted to meet them...
Meh, who the hell is Richard Belzer? Or that fat ignorant cow
October 16, 2009 - 08:56 ET by jazboBehar for that matter? These scum nobodies are best ignored.
"Democrats; Breeding voters like farm animals since 1962"
I read that fast, jazbo
October 16, 2009 - 09:02 ET by BlondeAnd thought you wrote "scum noodles". I kind of like it!
I hope he fails, too.
Belzer on TV
October 16, 2009 - 09:27 ET by CO2MakerBelzer's actual personality on the Joy of TV show is identical to the character he plays on "Law and Order," which always has a nice set-piece, usually in the squad room, in which he pronounces some pithy leftist observation about CIA-NSA goonery or Patriot Act snooping or Bush-lied-etc. palaver.
When the L&O SVU writers
October 16, 2009 - 16:01 ET by Chris NormanWhen the L&O SVU writers came up with the highly unlikely premise that a child with AIDS presence was protested by neighbors, Belzer's character (same as Belzer) said, "I thought this (NY) was supposed to be a blue state". I loathe the sight of this creepy man thing - I was forced to watch this dreadful show while at my brother's house. I finally got up and left the room.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
L&O
October 16, 2009 - 16:32 ET by katainkenttook a deep left turn last year. I liked the balance between Jack McCoy and Arthur Branch. Now its just ... well I've lost my appetite for it. Might still pick up this season SVU on netflix when its done if they don't jump the shark with Elliot and Liv. We'll see.
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The Emperor, he has no clothes
The brainless Joy and the
October 16, 2009 - 08:56 ET by mattmThe brainless Joy and the 60's lefty DICK Belzer blathering on about issues of which they have no clue.... These are utterly ignorant people.
I keep wondering why these
October 16, 2009 - 08:57 ET by Radical1979I keep wondering why these "comics" feel they know more than the public about politics and then spout it off. Then you have Whoopi on the view complaining that the media gets into their private lives. Well hell they open themselves up with their blathering.
And when is Joy going to refute the issues Beck brings up rather than just call him names?
Belzer?
October 16, 2009 - 09:03 ET by theduck6You know his character on Law and Order who is a conspiracy theory nutjob is based on an actual person. Richard Belzer.
If you puke the party line you will get ink. Did he actually refute any of Rush's or Beck's statements or, as usual, is it just ad hominem ,unsupported slander backed up with nothing more than the persons opinion?
There was no discussions of
October 16, 2009 - 09:23 ET by Radical1979There was no discussions of issues at all. I've heard Joy lump Beck in with the "birthers" in the past, but she doesn't refute any of the facts he discusses on his show. Guess he can't be refuted.
By the way, can't wait to
October 16, 2009 - 08:58 ET by Radical1979By the way, can't wait to see the ratings for Behar's show.
Show?
October 16, 2009 - 09:02 ET by BKeyserYou mean that wasn't a podcast?
Ratings? Viewers?
October 16, 2009 - 09:28 ET by Red JeepAccording to TVNEWSER, Oct 7, from an article by Chris Ariens: "In her first week on the air Joy Behar is averaging 177,000 A25-54 viewers, down 6% from the re-air of "Issues with Jane Velez Mitchell" that it replaced. "Issues" averaged 188,000 demo viewers in Sept."
So, assuming there are 300 million people in the U.S., her show the first week was seen by about 20% of 1/3 of 1% of the country in the 25-54 age bracket, I think.
Wonder if advertisers could get free advertising on this show? I mean, I hope no advertiser paid to run commercials on this show.
What a riot! Who says the
October 16, 2009 - 09:31 ET by Radical1979What a riot! Who says the American people have no taste?
All that with constant promos of the show on the view! She's getting what she deserves!
And such guests!
October 16, 2009 - 09:34 ET by BlondeD listers like Belzer.
I'd rather listen to fingernails on a chalk board than two seconds of Joy Blowhard.
I hope he fails, too.
Richard Belzer likes to
October 16, 2009 - 09:14 ET by samhermanmdRichard Belzer likes to come across as an educated man, but according to his bio he is a junior college dropout. His opinions are definitely shaped by a lack of information and comprehension.
In many ways he is like Joy Behar and other patients with serious mood disorders. They like to substitute cynicism and negativity for wit, on the ignorant theory that all "educated" people are inherently negative. Perhaps the ranks of liberal college professors with serious psychiatric disorders who influenced them was a factor. Perhaps it is just the incestuous nature of depressed, emotionally damaged New York comedians that foster this falsehood. Who knows for sure. Joy does have a master's degree, but I would bet that her admission to that program was probably a function of the admissions committee's desire not to have to interview her. Her voice, which sounds worse than shattering glass in a whining jet engine, probably irritated them so badly they just said yes so she would shut up.
I find Joy's delivery of
October 16, 2009 - 09:25 ET by Radical1979I find Joy's delivery of jokes very annoying. She drops them out of her mouth as though she thinks they are very funny, then smiles waiting for the audience to pay her homage as though she just came up with them rather than was fed them by someone else. No comedic timing at all.
Education vs Intelligence
October 16, 2009 - 14:19 ET by TBARI can think of several other prominent Americans who dropped out of or never attended college.
Bill Gates, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck..
Do you think Joy, with her Masters degree or Belzer compare in intelligence with any of the above 3?
Not in this lifetime.
Life is too short to be serious
and Mark Twain
October 16, 2009 - 14:29 ET by katainkent"Noise proves nothing. Often a hen who has merely laid an egg cackles as if she had laid an asteroid"
My point is the left is
October 16, 2009 - 15:35 ET by samhermanmdMy point is the left is constantly yacking to the media about being more educated, "enlightened" and intelligent than conservatives. Yet, when it comes down to actually having the credentials they so hold in such high regard, some of their most vocal mouthpieces lack them. Joy is one of those people constantly talking about her teaching credentials and her master's degree. Alec Baldwin also fits into the same braggart category. If Joy was so dedicated to education, why didn't she stay in the profession? And I can't be the only one who believes that Alec's graduate school was based less on academics than on publicity and faculty fawning.
Some people I have met who do not have college degrees have never been subject to the whackos on the faculty, and are probably much better people for not having to sit through the constant indoctrination and diatribe.
Having a college degree may not be a sign of intelligence, but the left believes it puts them into a higher form of life than conservatives. I beg to differ, and considering who is teaching young minds today, I worry.
Anytime anyone uses any of
October 16, 2009 - 09:24 ET by MANstreammediaAnytime anyone uses any of those words, they should be forced to define them on the spot.
Uma ... Oprah
October 16, 2009 - 09:29 ET by CO2Maker'Member when Lecherman hosted the Oscars and did that weird schtick? Try this one:
Joy of Sex ... Sex of Joy ... Ewwww
Joy of Cooking ... Cooking of Joy ... Hmmmm
Let's
October 16, 2009 - 09:54 ET by jessieHLet's see who Belzer is. A lousy comic, A lousy actor and a lousy lier. Yea, I'm gonna listen to him. Not.
Never an Owner
October 16, 2009 - 09:58 ET by CaringwhiteguyBelzer made some pretty controversial statments here. According to NFL Czar Roger Goodell that makes him ineligible to participate in any ownership of any NFL team EVER!
Jesus said...in the last days...
October 16, 2009 - 10:02 ET by stage9"...because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." (Matthew 24:12)
One of the signs of the end of the age is a rise in hatred for our fellow man. The anger...this seething animosity is directly attributable to the iniquity that is rising up in our society today. Never before in our history has such anger and division been witnessed. We have lost our moral compass.
God is love (1 John 4:8). Without God, love in the hearts of wicked men will take one of two courses: either mankind will pervert it (sex = love) or he will abandon it altogether.
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will
be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for
pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner."
— Malcolm Muggeridge
Want to steam a liberal?
October 16, 2009 - 10:05 ET by nolotrippenAnd I don't mean in a "cooking" way (though the effect is similiar). When they use the word "fascist," as in "They're fascist stooges." Ask them if they know what the word fascist means.
Then wait (you may have to ask again as the hamster tries to get up to speed).
Invariably they'll show their lack of knowledge and maturity by coming back with a nanner-nanner response along the lines of, "Well Rush Limbaugh is a perfect example."
Because, you see, they constantly use words without knowing what they mean. It's sad really. And not a little dangerous.
Richard Belzer?
October 16, 2009 - 10:05 ET by RpeggioI thought he was dead? I guess just his career is dead. That's great TV, Behar, Belzer, a no name.....her ratings must be as big as her butt.
Richard tried to extend his
October 16, 2009 - 10:27 ET by buddycRichard tried to extend his dead career. It won't work Richard. You ceased being funny about 30 years ago and you can't act worth @hit.
The bio of political
October 16, 2009 - 10:33 ET by Tom PaineThe bio of political expert Richard Belzer from Wikipedia:
After high school, Belzer worked as a reporter for the Bridgeport Post. He attended Dean Junior College in Franklin, Massachusetts,
for two semesters and part of a third before the school asked him to
leave for leading too many student demonstrations. According to one
interview, he was majoring in physical education.
He really is so much smarter than the rest of us...
left wing radicals
October 16, 2009 - 11:25 ET by Patriot IIIt sure makes you wonder what these left wing idiots are going to do when their other left wing idiots get the "hate" laws in......All they do, day in and day out is spew hated towards Christians and Conservatives......so will they be busted for hate crimes? I guess when you can't defend your moronic position, you sit around making up lies and saying any untruth about your "enemy" that comes to mind.....sure sounds like "hate" crimes to me......maybe all their legs are tingling? lol
Drugs
October 16, 2009 - 11:29 ET by Thinking.ManThe life of Richard "Dick" Belzer, another cautionary tale of why to avoid getting involved in the drug culture.
They're fascist stooges who
October 16, 2009 - 11:52 ET by fitzfongThey're fascist stooges who in the true sense of that word, that's not hyperbole...
Says the Marxist stooge who got slapped around by a professional wrestler on Late Night with David Letterman.
Belzer is every bit the angry, self-important, tin foil hat-wearing conspiracy monger that his character Munch was on Homicide. And even Munch got his comeuppance after hounding a fellow detective over his Vietnam service. Like Munch, there has never been any filter between Belzer's pea brain and his big mouth.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Have you contacted the NFL about Rush?
October 16, 2009 - 12:03 ET by cajuncocoaI just did; they have a contact form on their site
(http://www.nfl.com/c...) ... LET THEM KNOW HOW YOU FEEL their hypocrisy, and get others in your email groups/social networks to do the
same!
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Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
--Ronald Reagan
Behars Ratings
October 16, 2009 - 13:35 ET by Jerry MackTingles has such success at this type of program that she had to follow his lead. Every time I see that Maddow and Fat Ed have higher ratings than Tingles I e-mail him. Now I can add Behar to the list.
Who are these people?
October 16, 2009 - 14:11 ET by even stevenSome talentless, bat-faced harridan and a noodle-armed little pencil-necked dweeb don't like Rush or Glen Beck. So? At some point in their lives, Belzer and Behar were kicked off the short bus for being too stupid. An insipid television show is a good place for them. They fit right in with the other idiots.
"The D list show" with Joy Behar
October 16, 2009 - 15:09 ET by jacktheripper"next up, Kathy Griffin talks about motherhood and Sarah Palin"
OH JOY
"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
bribe the people with their own money." – Alexis de Tocqueville
Racist comments.....supposed by Limbaugh and unsubstantiated
October 16, 2009 - 17:25 ET by deenah42Do you folks forget that when Obama was running, Jesse Jackson was heard on an a live microphone that "he'd like to cut his balls off" or words to that effect. So his wanting to neuter or castrate Obama is not racist? or worthy of reporting wanting to neuter one of his own people? Because he is black, does that make it OK? As to Rush being too controversial.......the fact that Vick tortured dogs and some died, is not controversial?? The fact that some of the players have been drunk driving and killed someone, is not controversial? The fact that a guy shots himself, is not controversial? Get real folks!!! You plain hate people who have their own views.....plain and simple. You liberals are the worst biased, liars and intolerant segment of humanity that I have ever seen. Good people get crucified in the media, while loose living wild guys like the players, get a pass. Where is your tolerance to diversity that you talk about and that your party is supposed to be about? U N B E L I E V A B L E!!!
Too bad Janeane Garofalo was
October 16, 2009 - 18:23 ET by samhermanmdToo bad Janeane Garofalo was not on the show too. It would have diale up the insanity and added to the IQ deficit on that show.
Bring it on, limp-wristed
October 16, 2009 - 20:43 ET by RR GOPBring it on, limp-wristed Commie jerks.
Like to see them try to talk and slander their way out of an ass-kicking.
Sorry, they're really pissing me off.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.