Only on MSNBC, the network that prides itself as the "place for politics" could you see this type of anti-religion, anti-conservative vitriol.
On MSNBC's Sept. 1 "Countdown with Keith Olbermann," host Keith Olbermann entertained the musings of Dan Savage, a syndicated sex columnist, author and gay-rights advocate about religious conservatives and their participation in public policy debate.
"When you have a party that claims to speak for God or claims that God is on its side, the rhetoric heats up and the anger heats up because it's not just a battle about ideas and positions and what's good for the country or bad for the country," Savage said. "It's a battle about what God wants and what God doesn't want. It's easier to demagogue about your enemies and to despise them and to dehumanize them in this really personal and vicious way."
However, Savage took a step further than just ranting about religion in politics. He accused "the religious right" and "fomenting" hate and even named names. He suggested that Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., and Fox News host Glenn Beck were inciting emotion that was intentionally trying to get President Barack Obama killed.
"The religious right is fomenting this kind of hatred in this country at our peril," Savage continued. "I really do think that the Michele Bachmanns of the world and the Glenn Becks of the world are actively and consciously, or subconsciously, trying to get - I'm just going to say it, trying to get the president killed. That's why they're setting this up as kill or be killed arguments. He's going to kill your grandma, pull the plug on grandma, death panels that little children have to go in front of."
He continued to attack the Republican Party and conservatives, framing them as zealots.
"This kind of rhetoric - this paranoid style on the religious right - from Birchers to birthers - doesn't usually end well," Savage said. "And, somebody's got to put the brakes on it and unfortunately for the Republican Party, there's no adults left in the room - only the Michele Bachmanns and the Glenn Becks and the Rush Limbaughs running the show."
Although Olbermann didn't come out and challenge Savage on his accusations that Bachmann and Beck were trying to get the president killed, he added his own disclaimer that he didn't believe everyone opposing Obama's health care policy proposals was trying to get the president killed, but he said some were.
"The overall picture - help me out on this overall picture and I'm not going to, I'm only going to moderate your remarks to this degree, that I think some of them who oppose this are not of that thinking that you just expressed," Olbermann said. "But unfortunately a lot of who you are talking about, you nailed them perfectly."
But back in June, some left-wing storefronts and Olbermann himself attacked Glenn Beck for not challenging a guest on his show. Michael Scheuer, a former CIA analyst appeared on Beck's June 30 show and said the only way the United States might be "saved," after a hypothetical bin Laden terrorist attack. Olbermann named Scheuer and Beck his "Worst Persons in the World" on his July 7 show - Scheuer for his remarks and Beck for not challenging him.
"Scheuer's interviewer, Glenn Beck of Fox News, did not attempt to correct him, did not scream at him, ‘What the hell do you mean the only chance we have as a country right now?'" Olbermann said on his July 7 show. "Beck did not accuse Scheuer of insanity, nor disloyalty, nor palling around with terrorists? Beck did not even burst into tears. The host merely nodded gravely, as if this made sense. ‘Which is why I was thinking,' he said, ‘if I were him,' Bin Laden, ‘that would be the last thing I would do right now,' Beck answered, agreeing with Scheuer, and barely containing his disappointment as he did so."
MSNBC personalities also regularly attack women on the network, once referring to Bachmann as a "Mata Hari," and calling the former female Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin a "mail order bride" and characterize her as a dragon and a dog.
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They said what????
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 23:15 ET by Radar_OneOK...so MSLSD or the SRM or Duh One's propaganda office let a sex columnist on and he said that anyone with a dissenting opinion wishes the President dead????
WHEN dear God WHEN is this so called media outlet going to get reigned in?????
Barack Obama= Half Honkey...ALL Donkey
Savage finger-wagging about
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 23:24 ET by G. MaySavage finger-wagging about "dehumanizing", "fomenting hate", getting "personal" and "vicious"? That's a real hoot. Just rich!
Pot, meet kettle.
Dumb and dumber
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 23:25 ET by legacyrepublicanLet's see, the left was not trying to get Bush killed by, you know, denouncing him and the war.
No, they say and act like we are the bad guys and liberals are good people who know the will of God.
Give me a break!
what God?
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 07:39 ET by AJBLiberals have no God except their sex organs. If it feels good, DO IT. No consequences, no morals, no concern about abusing/using other. It's all about how the FEEL right now!!
Seriously, the Secret
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 23:38 ET by RR GOPSeriously, the Secret Service needs to keep an eye on this guy and Matthews. They seem like the "I had to kill him in order to save him!" type of sick puppies.
Waaaaackos...
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
RR GOP, I had to rethink what you said
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 01:53 ET by legacyrepublicanAt first I dismissed what you said as unlikely, but then I had to rethink that stance after I remembered what just happened in Denver with the radical Democrat busting the windows so the GOP would get blamed.
Excellent point.
I agree. I hope the secret service is even more vigilant and attentive to watch the wackos on the left who might try something very wrong and horrible in the same vein as the dude in Denver just did to the DNC HQ now that their messiah is apparently dumping the public option and falling in the polls.
Not to interrupt you
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 01:57 ET by bigtimerNot to interrupt you two...but I have very much worried about this scenario very much as well...very much.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
THE WILKOW MAJORITY...
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 19:41 ET by danybhoyA couple of weeks ago, Andrew Wilkow on Sirius/XM talked about who really would want Obama killed. He said the left would want it way more then anyone on the right. His logic was who would gain form it. Wilkow contends that JFK was of more value to the Dems dead then alive, & they seem to trying to use Ted Kennedy's death to push an agenda. So he contends that Obama could be of more use dead then alive.
The sad thing is, he's probably right, since the left never wants to let a good crisis go to waste. I hope we never find out.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
Nightwish
dany I heard that, Wilkow
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 19:48 ET by Radical1979dany I heard that, Wilkow blamed all this ridiculous Kennedy worship on Oswald. No conservative in his right mind would harm Obama, for God's sake BIDEN is vice president!!
KENNEDY CURSE...
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 20:02 ET by danybhoyI would like to think that most conservatives would like to see Obama live to be an old fart & die of natural causes about 40 years from now.
I think that Wilkow(I spelled your name right...) is on to something with his Kennedy theory. With John & Bobby being gunned down, it made the Kennedy's something more then they should have been. Teddy was a dirtbag in many levels, but he was very skilled as a politician, I don't believe the current Kennedy's have 1/3 of the skill that Ted had...& that's a good thing.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
Nightwish
If nothing else, these two
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 21:38 ET by RR GOPIf nothing else, these two and some others keep bringing this up as if they're purposely trying to put ideas into others heads' for the reasons mentioned by many posters above.
Certainly don't want to see any politician harmed/killed because of their political beliefs no matter how much I disagree with them.
On the pragmatic side, if some wacko does do something and he's a Righty, you know that will be bad for the country way beyond the "normal" instability one would expect. Besides, they always have more to replace them. It's not just one or two people, it's several millions.
It is irresponsible for talking heads on major TV networks to bring this issue up.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Look at the long history of liberal 'Reichstags'.
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 16:00 ET by TailgunnerThey paint swastikas.
They vandalize their own property.
They plant nooses.
They burn crosses.
They tie themselves up, cut themselves up, and make false reports of hate crimes.
They smash windows.
All to blame conservatives.
Where WILL they stop?
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
TAILGUNNER...
Fri, 09/04/2009 - 05:12 ET by danybhoyIf you have XM/Sirius Satellite radio, you can find The Wilkow Majority, with Andrew Wilkow. He went through his file of "fake" hate crimes, & it took him a while to get through just a chunk of it. It's just like the health care stories about how crappy socialized medicine is elsewhere. The hits just keep coming. From the Reichstag to Duke lacrosse & beyond, it is amazing what leftists will do to seize power.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
Nightwish
My mind is going crazy,with these hateful liberals
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 23:42 ET by donsalimanYou all know,everyday I think I have seen it all,but yet the MSM and liberals seem to go a step further.
Sometimes,I just feel at a loss,that I can not confront these liberals personally,and call them out.
donsaliman...
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:21 ET by Georgia GirlIt's disgraceful. The largest communication aspect of our society has been hijacked -- and we're all hostage to it. Honestly, if someone was in a coma for five years and recently woke up -- no matter if a liberal or conservative -- they may think they are waking up to signs of a communist country being formed. After all, this "new role" of the majority of our media is one of the signs.
Not only do we have few watchdogs in the media (and we all know who the few are), I'd say the MSM (in general) is largely a propoganda machine. It sickens me. On a brighter note, the MSM is taking a day-by-day hit economically, as that segment's viewership/readership declines. Americans know what's going on. Independents are key, and they are tired of it.
Watched Keith
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 23:45 ET by TexndocI was flipping back and forth to Olbermann's show tonight and noted one thing as I constantly asked myself : "Now who is this idiot (the one NOT Olbermann)?" Very rarely do they identify the guest after an introduction, as if the show is embarrassed. This guy warranted me asking myself that over and over. Plummeting poll numbers has them rabid.
Poor Bath-Tub
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 23:50 ET by bigtimerPoor Bath-Tub Boy...Strangled his Rubber Duck again...pull that plug on him someone...fast!
Watch that water swirl swiftly to suck him on down that drain taking him to that the sewer he feeds on.
He'll be in need of ice water in those parts.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
I want to add something
Tue, 09/01/2009 - 23:52 ET by donsalimanWhen I was writing my first post a few seconds ago,I was watching the Dodgers game and I heard them sing "Take me out to the ball game" and was thinking,when will the liberals find this song offence, and will want to ban it
That's what liberals want
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 00:14 ET by nyyankee55That's what liberals want they want Barry killed, the want to make a martyr out him. No one wants him hurt or killed just impeached
Why must they lie?
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 00:20 ET by superconStrawman 101: In this class you will taught the basics of presenting a phony argument and then the practical application of assigning it to someone else in order to portray opponents as unreasonable and therefore crazy. Wed. and Fri. 7-9 Pm Obama Auditorium $165
""When you have a party that claims to speak for God or claims that God
is on its side, the rhetoric heats up and the anger heats up because
it's not just a battle about ideas and positions and what's good for
the country or bad for the country," He can't back up a single word of that statement.No one has ever claimed to speak for God.
" if Republicans are able to stop Barack Obama on health care, 'it will be his Waterloo, it will break him...." -Sen. Jim DeMint
<i>"When you have a party
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 00:30 ET by Clear thinker<i>"When you have a party that claims to speak for God or claims that God is on its side, the rhetoric heats up and the anger heats up because it's not just a battle about ideas and positions and what's good for the country or bad for the country,"</i>
This man knows so little. Very, very few people claim that God is on their side, it's the other way around... billions of people claim to be on God's side. I wish these non-believers would get with the program!
You just gotta read this... LMAO!
http://iamnotaracist.wordpress.com/
Irony, they name is liberal. Dan Savage and 24enak (below)
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 14:36 ET by BO STINKSprobably believe they are 'intellectuals.' The irony with these pseudo-intellectuals is that they do not understand something about the religion that cuts off people's heads. They will come for the pseudos FIRST! How can these people be so blind and stupid while touting their own smarts? BO appeases and courts this radical religion and he probably is a muslim (he won't release the docs. ;-)). So they are unlikely to cut off his head. But the gays, those who promote gays, they will be the first to go! What kind of brain dead morons could possibly defend or at the least cover up this fact?
Irony, thy name is liberal. Self-destructive twits.
"...it must be known that we are at all times ready for war." G. Washington
There are some religious
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 00:29 ET by 24enakThere are some religious leaders that want president Obama to die. There is a pastor from Arizona, whom preaches to one of the men that attended a Obama town hall with an AR-15 and a handgun.
The pastor, Stephen Anderson, gave a recent sermon titled "why I hate Barack Obama." In his sermon he says "I am going to show you why God hates Obama." And "I am going to pray that he [Obama] dies and goes to hell." Then he reiterates on a local tv station "If you want to know how I'd like to see Obama die, I'd like him to die of natural causes," said Anderson. "I don't want him to be a martyr, we don't need another holiday. I'd like to see him die, like Ted Kennedy, of brain cancer."
The man with the AR-15, Chris Broughton, said of the sermon "I concur, I think we'd be better off if God would send [Obama] where he's going now instead of later. [Obama] is destroying our country."
The reporter then asked a follow up question, "you're not advocating violence against the president?" Broughton said, "I'm not going to answer that question directly." "I don't care how God does it, I'm not going into further detail than that," "It would be better now than later."
http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/Tempe-pastor-reiterates-wish-for-President-Obamas/MX2Vzd4unEi9n8PschT50w.cspx
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-qr6gxIHhQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-OT8_cwWC8&feature=related
Hearing his sermon, sounds like what the Glenn Becks of the world have said, comparing Obama to Hitler, Stalin, using socialism, and communism, and saying that he wants his country back. These are things both Glenn Beck and other conservatives have said, the pastor says the same things, almost verbatim. The only difference is when the pastor says that he 'wants the president to die.'
You will say no conservative pundit has wished for the president to die and this is very true. But those that pray for the president to die, like this pastor and his disciple, use the same rationale as the conservative pundits that Obama is Hitler, or destroying America and then they pray for the president to die. How long will they wait when their prayers go unanswered by God, before they or those that listen, take action?
Good lord, so there is one
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 00:33 ET by Clear thinkerGood lord, so there is one nutcase Preacher out there, so what? How many wanted Bush dead while he was in office. Don't go painting all Conservatives as president killers because of one nutcase preacher.
LMAO!
http://iamnotaracist.wordpress.com/
This one nutcase Preacher
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 00:51 ET by 24enakThis one nutcase Preacher has a congregation that he preaches to, this one nutcase preacher has a following, that is the scary part.
Obama has a lot of
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 01:04 ET by Clear thinkerObama has a lot of followers too, so what? On second thought... I would trust the nutcase preacher before I would Obama. LMAO!
http://iamnotaracist.wordpress.com/
CT, It says a lot about you
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:24 ET by 24enakCT, It says a lot about you that you would trust the nutcase preacher at all.
It says a lot about you that
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 17:21 ET by bretzysdudeIt says a lot about you that you trust Obama at all. Idiot.
"Scary" preachers
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 01:06 ET by timrfrench61I wouldn't worry... unless that pastor can get people to volunteer to do yard work consistantly.
If you want to see someone who preaches racism and hate...
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 01:24 ET by Tailgunner...well, you can take your pick of Reverend Wright or Louis Farrakhan, for starters.
Then you have your lesser whackjobs like Khalid Abdul Muhammad from the New Black Panther Party who said, "there are no good crackers, and if you find one, kill him before he changes."
Remember, this is the same NBPP who stood at polling places with uniforms and weapons threatening whites...and for whom Eric Holder of Obama's DOJ personally intervened to get them off on federal civil rights charges.
Obama's got one hell of a lot more 'followers' who have been radicalized against whites and conservatives by these rabble rousers than your preacher can ever raise.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
You mean there are whackos'
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:25 ET by 24enakYou mean there are whackos' on both sides? Because all I have heard about was Reverend Wright.
Have been there polls conducted the proves or even suggest that "Obama's got one hell of a lot more 'followers' who have been radicalized against whites and conservatives by these rabble rousers than your preacher can ever raise." Because this sounds a lot like hyperbole.
With your last line you are apart of the problem, not apart of the solution.
enak24, you have offered no solutions... only a tiny anecdotal
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 13:50 ET by pahuberexample to make some sort of a point.
You seem to be the real problem when you cannot even admit that olberdeuche & friend made assinine statements. Then you divert w/ the anecdotal.... to what?
That shows you are part of the problem and what is wrong with our country.
I'm a part of YOUR problem, pal...a BIG part.
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 19:26 ET by TailgunnerYou pick one pastor who, if he said what's being reported (and with today's MSM that's a big if), he should be condemned by anyone with a brain.
You use him to represent the entire conservative movement, even though most folks nationwide have never heard the guy's name until the MSM bannered it 24/7.
But when we brought up repeated examples of ridiculous, false, vicious and hateful smears against conservatives, for example Randi Rhodes, formerly of Air America who was investigated by Secret Service agents for twice calling for Bush's assassination, all you can say is 'there are whackjobs on both sides'.
Why do Reverend Wright the anti-American black racist, Bill Ayers the anti-American domestic terrorist bomber (who poses for photos standing on an American flag!), or Barack Obama the Marxist ant-America fascist liar not represent the left, but some formerly anonymous pastor no one's ever heard of before is now the face of the Right?
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
A big if? The pastor said in
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 23:14 ET by 24enakA big if? The pastor said in his church, which you can listen to on their website (http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/page5.html) or you can watch the clips on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-qr6gxIHhQ&feature=related or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-OT8_cwWC8&feature=related or the whole hour long sermon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to6hd3zTq2E&feature=related Or you can read/watch this when he is asked about his sermon and reiterates that he wants Obama to die of natural causes http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/tempe/story/Tempe-pastor-reiterates-wish-for-President-Obamas/MX2Vzd4unEi9n8PschT50w.cspx.
Still unsure he said what he said. I wish this pastor didn't represent even some of the conservative movement but he does. If you listen to his sermon (I have) the things he says leading up to the "I pray that Obama will die" it sounds like what is said of Obama on a daily basis on radio and TV.
You almost had me, up until you called the president a Marxist anti-America fascist, I almost thought you were sane, but you proved yourself otherwise.
Randi Rhodes, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers have all said/done stupid and condemnable things, and they are never been the face or the voice of the Left. BO is the face of the Left and has condemned what Rev. Wright has said.
What's this "sounds like" crap? A parlor game? Back it up, pal.
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 15:12 ET by Tailgunner"If you listen to his sermon (I have) the things he says leading up to the "I pray that Obama will die" it sounds like what is said of Obama on a daily basis on radio and TV."
Bullshit. Totally false. Never happened. Complete fiction. You can not back that up.
Which conservative personality, whether a talk radio host or Fox News analyst, ever said anything close to 'I pray Obama dies'?
Again, you're trying to take the words of some unknown and extrapolate them to reflect on the entire conservative movement. It ain't workin', pal.
Give me some similar statements from a mainstream conservative religious figure. (like Rev. Wright)
The most you might find is some overheated rhetoric from the conservative pulpit immediately after 9/11 for which the speakers have apologized.
"Randi Rhodes, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers have all said/done stupid and condemnable things, and they are never been the face or the voice of the Left."
More bullshit.
Do you read your own posts, pal?
Rev Wright is NOT the 'voice of the Left', but this nobody preacher from Podunk Pike, Montana or Utah or somewhere IS now the face of the entire conservative movement??
Randi Rhodes was the number one liberal talk show host on Air America. You liberals can't minimize her influence at the same time you claim that Rush is the 'leader' of the GOP.
Liberals listened in huge numbers (for Air America, anyway) to Rhodes, as Obama listened to Wright, because they LIKED WHAT SHE WAS SAYING.
So Rhodes IS the face of the left.
'Stupid'? Bill Ayers BOMBED Federal buildings. JUST like your favorite whipping boy Tim McVeigh.
Now I demand, right here and now, that you tell me that what Ayers did was any less criminal than McVeigh's actions.
Yes,yes,yes, you're going to tell me McVeigh killed more people. But would you excuse McVeigh if no one died? No.
Your problem is obviously not with the ACT, since you minimize Ayers' bombing as 'condemnable' instead of CRIMINAL and SEDITIOUS.
Your standard is the MOTIVATION.
Ayers' bombings and murders (he was the founder of the criminal conspiracy called the Weathermen which makes him criminally responsible for every bombing, every death, every robbery performed by any member of the conspiracy) came from his anti-American beliefs.
McVeigh acted from his own definition of patriotism.
Ayers also still has incalculable influence on public education today.
Millions of children are being indoctrinated through his radical curricula to reject everything good about this country, every value taught by their parents and every institution that has made this nation great.
So Ayers is ALSO the 'face of the left'.
Please stop passing judgement on my 'sanity'. Coming from you that makes me laugh. And right now it hurts to laugh.
Am I supposed to be intimidated into not responding to the bullshit you're trying to sell us?
Is 'insane' the new 'racist'?
"BO is the face of the Left and has condemned what Rev. Wright has said. "
You've said that twice before and it has been shot down twice before.
Rev Wright has said, as I've posted twice before, that Obama's just saying what he has to say as a politician.
Even Wright knows Obama is lying.
You don't listen to an anti-American RACIST whose GOSPEL is 'killing God if he won't help us kill white people' for ONE THOUSAND SUNDAYS and then stand up at the right political moment and 'condemn' those words.
Wright is one of Obama's foundational influences. That in itself makes him a 'face of the left'.
Come on, pal. This all you got?
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
This is FUN.
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 15:56 ET by Tailgunner"You almost had me, up until you called the president a Marxist anti-America fascist, I almost thought you were sane, but you proved yourself otherwise."
This video, where Obama reads his own words from his book, proves that 'he sought out' in Harvard 'Marxist professors' among other riffraff.
So try and squirm out of that one, pal.
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/29/obama-chose-marxists-as-frie...
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
You mean like Rev. Jeremiah
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 05:56 ET by motherbeltThis one nutcase Preacher has a congregation that he preaches to, this
one nutcase preacher has a following, that is the scary part.
You mean like Rev. Jeremiah Wright?
\sarc off
He did say he wanted Obama to die of naturaly causes, sort of like Julianne Malveaux hoped for with Clarence Thomas.
Seriously, though, does this one nutcase preacher have a national microphone?
Everyone today has a
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:25 ET by 24enakEveryone today has a national microphone. His church has a website, and his videos on youtube have a couple of thousand views. Everyone and anyone can have a national microphone.
And who do you imagine
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:34 ET by motherbeltAnd who do you imagine views his sermons on YouTube and looks at his website, other than those in his own area?
And just how much influence does he have?
There were a lot of people who wanted President Bush murdered..not just dead, but murdered. Or doesn't that count, because he's not black?
Randi Rhodes had a 'national microphone'.
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 01:04 ET by TailgunnerIn fact it was an 'international microphone'.
Randi Rhodes at one time was the Number 1 top rated liberal radio talk show host.
http://talkingradio.blogspot.com/2007/04/randi-rhodes-is-now-top-lib-tal...
Randi Rhodes has TWICE called for the assassination of President Bush, from HER 'national microphone', in May 2004 and April 2005.
The Secret Service investigated both incidents.
According to government sources, Randi Rhodes' words constituted a crime.
Now please tell me again how dangerous this nobody pastor with a comparatively nonexistent audience is?
(I'll bet Billy Mays had more viewers on his OxyClean infomercials than this nobody ever did.)
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
you are so
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 07:40 ET by red_dragon311you are so Wright....OH sorry i mean right..
do i have to say anything else
lib-think:
Male/female gender roles, especially the desire of women to be mothers, are purely social constructs. But homosexuality - and every other sexual proclivity - are immutable, ingraned biological desires that cannot be questioned
Big deal. One wackadoodle. That's why we have the Secret Service
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 06:13 ET by SickofLibsI agree with "the Glenn Becks of the world" - I want my country back, too, through peaceful, legal means.
Five minutes spent googling would turn up thousands of death wishes for Bush - most NOT wishing he would die from natural causes.
Five minutes spent googling
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:25 ET by 24enakFive minutes spent googling would turn up thousands of people who claimed they have been probed by aliens, seen bigfoot, think 9/11 was an inside job, and believe the Cubs will win a world series. So you see there are a lot of wackos out there.
What is terrifying is this preacher used the Bible to show "why God hates Barack Obama" religious extremists are dangerous and scary, from the branch Dravidians, to the Taliban, to the KKK.
No need to bring in the Davidians, Taliban, KKK or Manson
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:35 ET by SickofLibsWe are talking about ONE (1) religious whackjob, and the fact that he uses the Bible instead of an alien-inscribed titanium tablet to derive his insane theories is meaningless.
No it is not, because in
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 11:46 ET by 24enakNo it is not, because in case you haven't notice some people take religion to far, like this pastor, like the Taliban or Al Qaeda and the terrorists that cowardly attack the 'infidels' in their holy war, they use the Koran to justify killing people, this pastor uses the bible to pray for the death of the president of the united states.
The branch Davidians were a religious cult, who died/killed for their leader who used the bible to justify his deplorable teachings and actions. It was also because of the branch Davidians that Tim McVeigh blew up the federal building in Oklahoma City. David Koresh was only ONE (1) religious whackjob whose actions lead to the death of hundreds of people.
FACT: We cannot rid the world of religious maniacs
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 13:14 ET by SickofLibsNow let's quit the examination of cults and get back to your original post above:
You drew an analogy between conservatives and this nut pastor. And then implied it's only a matter of time before those that listen to conservative pundits like Beck will "take action" and murder Obama.
Which is of course, highly offensive and a stretch of epic proportions.
You know enak24, he wouldn't let logic get in his way...
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 13:54 ET by pahuberHe is happily focused on this one pastor in spite of the enormously crazy things olberdeuche or obama's administration have been saying.
Strain out a knat & swallow a camel.... yeah, that's enak24's style.
Like what? give me some of
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 14:59 ET by 24enakLike what? give me some of the enormously crazy things Olbermann or Obama's administration have been saying.
wow
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 15:28 ET by katainkentHow much time do you have ?
Honestly I wonder why NB wastes digital ink on the man. He's a non-person. He's a caricature of a non-person. He's a caricature on a bar napkin of a non person!
As for Obama - that's more complicated. But - saying his healthcare plan will be deficit neutral - that's a start.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. ~Thomas Jefferson
How many people has this pastor killed?
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 00:03 ET by TailgunnerAnd why do you insist on tying this guy who no one has heard of to mass murderers he has nothing to do with?
"David Koresh was only ONE (1) religious whackjob whose actions lead to the death of hundreds of people.'
What about bin Laden and al-Qaeda?
Bush has been fighting al-Qaeda for 8 years and liberals have literally DEFENDED, provided INTELLIGENCE, parroted their PROPAGANDA, and ATTACKED EVERYTHING BUSH HAS DONE, all on behalf of those same al-Qaeda terrorists for that same eight years.
Now it's Obama who's 'air-raiding villages and killing civilians' in Pakistan and Afghanistan especially, as John Kerry used to say, and there isn't a peep from you guys.
Obama promised to close Gitmo.
Who's stopping him?? The freaking DEMOCRAT CONGRESSIONAL MAJORITY.
And STILL there's not a peep out of any of you libs.
Tim McVeigh acted not because of religion. He acted from revenge for what he perceived as a government massacre of Americans.
Say what you want about David Koresh.
(BTW Koresh' church was a recognized branch of the Seventh Day Adventists; you know, those mass murdering religious wackos.)
But if I was in Janet Reno's jackboots, I would have waited years before initiating an assault with tanks and pyrotechnics that by itself led to the incineration of nearly two dozen women and children, including two pregnant women, none of whom was involved in the killing of ATF Agents during the initial assault.
The safety of the innocent is always the first priority in a standoff. Reno acted because for a monster like her, there ARE no innocents in a church.
God damn Janet Reno.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
I have mention Al-Qaeda and
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 00:41 ET by 24enakI have mention Al-Qaeda and the Taliban in the religious radical grouping. McVeigh acted because of what happened at Waco, I never said he acted because of religion.
(By the way, I also never said the Seventh Day Adventists were mass murdering religious wackos either.)
So you would have let the children keep getting molested? That is a bold move. It was also believe that they were going commit a mass suicide like they did in Jonestown, but you still would have waited. Look reports say that it was members of the Branch Davidians that set the fire inside the compound, and it was also members that 'mercy killed' women and children and themselves.
It wasn't the governments' fault the Branch Davidians died at Waco, it was David Koresh who misused the Bible and its teachings to brainwash, and molest the young girls in his following for years.
So you would have let the children keep getting molested?
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 04:41 ET by TailgunnerYou're right. It was much better to INCINERATE them.
That's one of the dumbest statements I've ever read on this forum.
Use your brain, man.
As long as the Feds stayed outside, nothing happened. No mass suicide, no fire, no 'mercy killing'.
If all this was 'known' why initiate the assault KNOWING all this would start upon the Fed's entry?
Maybe they set the fire or maybe not. But it was NOT UNTIL THE TANKS ENTERED THE COMPOUND that the fire started.
If police SWAT units run into a hostage situation in a bank without giving time for negotiations, and five, ten or twenty hostages die, the chain of command is going to be seen as criminally negligent. Heads would definitely roll.
Instead officials involved in Waco were actually PROMOTED.
Reno initiated the final assault with reckless disregard for the innocent women and children whose safety was HER RESPONSIBILITY during the siege.
Like I said...if it was a matter of the safety of innocents I would have waited months longer.
"It wasn't the governments' fault the Branch Davidians died at Waco."
I say the gov't shares a lot of responsibility. The Feds knew there were MANY innocent women and children but they demonstrated little to no concern for their safety during the siege.
Reno ordered the assault with reckless disregard for innocent life. Their blood is on her hands.
I'm not too sure that Reno didn't want a massacre anyway.
Reno is a monster.
God DAMN Janet Reno.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
The government
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 09:23 ET by 24enakThe government didn't incinerate them, the Branch Davidians started the fire. Reports say that those inside the compound had amble time to escape is they wanted to, but other members didn't allow the innocent to escape, and then shot some of them.
"I'm not too sure that Reno didn't want a massacre anyway. Reno is a monster. God DAMN Janet Reno."
You sound like a conspiracy theorists, you sound insane.
The Branch Davidians had a stockade of weapons and ammunition they were prepared to fight to the death. They were a cult willing to die/kill for their leader. They killed federal agents in the initial assault, the 'ball' was in David Koresh's court the whole time, he could have ended, he could have let the innocent escape but he didn't.
There were negotiations that took place for 50+ days.
Why did the shooting STOP after the ATF withdrew?
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 14:25 ET by Tailgunner'Conspiracy theorist?
This is rich coming from the party of the 'vast right-wing conspiracy' and 'What did Bush know and when did he know it? (9/11)'.
And Obama's commissar Van Jones is a signatory to one of the earliest 'truther' documents!
Tell me more about 'conspiracy theories'. Please.
Give me the source of those 'reports'. I've never heard anything like that.
The more credible 'reports' indicated that it may have been the FBI that was firing at the escaping Branch Davidians.
Overhead video showed what experts interpreted as flashes of gunfire reflected from objects at the scene during the fire that could only have come from outside the compound.
In fact Congress ordered simulations of the final moments of the fire to confirm or deny this hypothesis.
Although the FBI could not confirm this (possibly because they used long-barreled M-16s instead of the tactical short-barreled models, which have a much larger muzzle flash), they also found no evidence for your ridiculous, unsupportable claim.
So the thrice-damned Janet Reno negotiated for 50+ days.
Why can Democrats wait for over ten years for a dictator like Saddam to disarm as he promised but they can't want two months before driving tanks into a hostage situation and getting two dozen innocent hostages incinerated?
Again. How long would YOU wait before storming the place, knowing that Koresh probably had the place 'wired' to go and that hostages would almost certainly die horribly in large numbers?
Quit trying to psychoanalyze people. Right now the only standard you have to compare people to is yourself.
And let me be the first to tell you that you and the rest of your kind are not models of sanity yourselves.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
The Branch Davidians were
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:35 ET by motherbeltThe Branch Davidians were not "religious extremists," they were a cult. They were a danger to no one outside of themselves.
They were a religious cult,
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 11:46 ET by 24enakThey were a religious cult, and what about the children David Koresh molested and married. Some of his "wives" that he impregnated were as young as 12 years old, would you consider that a danger.
24 enak Put Him in Jail ! Innocent until proven guilty, right?
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:08 ET by upcountrywaterWrong.
WASHINGTON (AP) - An FBI lawyer ``goofed'' in not telling superiors in 1996
that federal agents fired pyrotechnic tear gas canisters into the Branch
Davidians' compound in Waco, Texas, a former senator who investigated the deadly
raid said Wednesday.
Danforth, a longtime Republican senator from Missouri, was appointed by
Attorney General Janet Reno to investigate the siege after the government
acknowledged, following years of denials, that it used pyrotechnic tear gas
canisters during the final assault.
Just a harmless
Pyrotechnic?
So 24 enak ,you think like most libs just burn 'em up..
State controlled health care is Tort Reform.
You sure you want to go down
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:40 ET by ninerdogYou sure you want to go down this road? BO sat in a church that preached white hate. For 20 years he sat in church. Taken at face value of what you are saying then BO is a raciest and Beck is right. Thank for proving that point.
BO has publicly denounced
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:30 ET by 24enakBO has publicly denounced Rev. Wright statements. The guy with the AR-15 whole heartily agrees with what his pastor says. Just as, I am sure, there are some that listened to Rev. Wright every Sunday and agrees with his hateful sermons.
"words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue."
More Enakian logic
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 14:10 ET by SickofLibsAgain, what does this have to do with your original post implying that conservatives may be driven to murder Obama b/c they listen to conservative pundits??
If Obama was going to turn into a pumpkin at midnight, he waited until 11:59:59 to throw the Rev under the bus to save his own butt.
Zero points for that.
That's bullshit and you know it.
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 23:37 ET by TailgunnerEven Reverend Wright told PBS' Bill Moyers Obama was a 'politician' and was only saying what he had to (before Obama's handlers got to him and told him to STFU).
"It went down very simply. He's a politician, I'm a pastor. We speak to two different audiences. And he says what he has to say as a politician. I say what I have to say as a pastor. But they're two different worlds."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/excerpts-from-rev-wright_b_9...
Obama sat in Rev Wright's church for over one thousand Sundays.
Rev. Wright baptized Obama's children.
Rev. Wright performed Barack and Michelle's wedding.
Obama supported Rev Wright's church financially for 20 years.
Obama said 'he could no more disown Rev Wright than he could the black community'.
Obama heard Rev. Wright.
Obama agrees with Rev. Wright.
Obama has internalized Rev. Wright's teachings.
Obama believes in the profane anti-American race hatred spewed from Rev. Wright's pulpit every Sunday.
And President Obama brings Wright's anti-American racist philosophy to everything he touches.
Barack Hussein Obama. Deep in your heart...you know he's Wright.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
You started off strong but
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 00:00 ET by 24enakYou started off strong but you really faded at the end. Half of what you say is true (top half) but the bottom half is complete BS, and is stuff you think is true. Your starting off with the truth and then throwing in complete bs at the end so that others will think that the second half of your post is true too, but it isn't.
My preacher loves the Beach Boys and shrimp, I don't like the Beach Boys or shrimp. My preacher is a Cardinals fan I am a Cubs fan. But since he is my preacher I guess that must mean I like what he likes and think what he thinks, and believe what he believes.
Obama also said " In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue."
sorry, enak
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 00:13 ET by candanceYou're way off base here. If a pastor likes the taste of shrimp, it's hardly a controversial point and would not be worth leaving a church over.
There is no way - I repeat, no way - that Obama called him a personal mentor and yet did not know he was preaching like that, especially the Sunday after 9/11. I have never "unknowingly" had a pastor who discussed politics in church, especially one I called a personal friend. That is not possible.
On to your other point. You cannot demean such hateful sermons by comparing them to baseball. I wouldn't leave a church because the pastor liked the Cubs. I wouldn't lose a friendship over the taste of shrimp. But I would leave if he said America deserved 9/11.
Would YOU overlook that to stay friends with a pastor?
What if George Bush served in the KKK with Robert Byrd?
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 00:40 ET by TailgunnerNow is THAT a liberal dilemma or what?
(Of COURSE that's not true.)
But what if it was?
Why does Obama get a pass for listening to a black racist for TWENTY YEARS, Byrd gets a pass for BEING a WHITE racist, but if, say, a Republican candidate stops for gas within five miles of Bob Jones College, that makes HIM a closet 'crossburner'?
You libs have a SERIOUS problem with double standards.
Obama's preacher, mentor and friend was and is a RACIST who HATES this country.
Obama CHOSE, Sunday after Sunday after Sunday, over ONE THOUSAND Sundays, in fact, to sit in the church of an anti-American RACIST.
Obama WANTED to hear what Wright said. Obama LIKED what he heard and he came back for more of the same for twenty years.
As much as you try, you CAN'T ignore that. You CAN'T minimize that. You CAN'T distract attention from that. Not without becoming a total joke on this forum.
Now if a White GOP candidate had done that, the Democrats wouldn't have to run him out of town.
The Republicans would have kicked him out of the party.
Of course, as we've already seen, he'd just find a warm welcome and a home in the Democrat Party.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
If he had then I am sure
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 01:22 ET by 24enakIf he had then I am sure liberals would use it against Bush just as conservatives use it against Byrd and liberals.
I have only heard the few sound bites from Rev. Wright I don't think Rev. Wright made the same racist sermons every Sunday, for twenty years. Obama has said:
" I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely — just as I'm sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.
But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren't simply controversial. They weren't simply a religious leader's effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country — a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America...[2]
I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love."
As much as you have you CAN'T ignore that.
Of COURSE I can ignore it. Rev Wright SAID Obama didn't mean it.
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 15:43 ET by TailgunnerLiberals wouldn't have Bush to kick around.
The GOP would have sent him packing years ago.
Read above. Wright told PBS Obama was just 'saying what he needed to say' as a 'politician'.
"I don't think Rev. Wright made the same racist sermons every Sunday, for twenty years."
So what? Does that make it OK?
Why would it be OK if Wright only occasionally called for God to 'damn America', only once in a while claimed that 9/11 was justified by US foreign policy, or saved his claim that whites invented AIDS and poured crack into black neighborhoods to kill blacks for MLK Day?
It shouldn't be OK AT ALL for Wright to rant at the pulpit with such false, racist and profane garbage.
It's complete bullshit to claim Obama 'never heard' this crap.
Obama and everyone else in that church knows what Wright preaches...Black Liberation Theology. (BLT)
According to the source below,
"...(Obama) belongs to a Christian church whose doctrine casts Jesus Christ as a "black messiah" and blacks as "the chosen people". At best, this is a radically different kind of Christianity than most Americans acknowledge; at worst it is an ethnocentric heresy."
Here are just a few lowlights of Wright's ol' time religion:
"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community.
If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him.
The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy.
What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal.
Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JC18Aa01.html
Let's review:
-God is a murderer if he doesn't help blacks kill whites.
-Kill God if he doesn't help blacks kill whites.
-Killing white oppressors is a 'holy activity'.
-If God won't help us kill white people then we reject Him.
This is Reverend Wright's GOSPEL.
This is Obama's CREED.
This is known, understood, BELIEVED AND EMBRACED by EVERY MEMBER of that church...INCLUDING OBAMA.
If I spent twenty years in the KKK, would you accept my claim that I never heard the word 'n***er'? Of course not.
There's NO WAY you, or anyone else is ever going to succeed at separating Wright's hateful, racist, anti-American beliefs from Obama's.
Obama's brought this race hatred into the White House...and he's putting it to work.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
Candance Your right, I was
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 01:24 ET by 24enakYour right, I was being facetious.
Obama went to the church some 20 years and was close to Rev. Wright to the point he called him an uncle like figure in his life. The handful of sound bites, which there may be more I have only heard the few, Rev. Wright made may not be enough to break the relationship between the two.
Which isn't to say Rev. Wright statements are less distasteful. But Obama considered him 'family' and in every family there is undoubtifully a member that says and thinks things we would never say or think.
I have a uncle who has told my cousin repeatably to never bring home a "black girl" doesn't mean I disown him, or agree with him.
To my knowledge Obama has never reiterated what Rev. Wright has said in his sound bite sermons, he has condemned what he said and made a great speech about it (A more perfect union).
" I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely — just as I'm sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.
But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren't simply controversial. They weren't simply a religious leader's effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country — a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America...[2]
I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother — a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.
These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love."
HMTS
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:01 ET by UnsaneSo, kane42, where was your deep, overwhelming concern for Bush when people compared HIM to Hitler, or when people made movies about him getting assassinated?
Oh, I forgot, your concern for the presidency only began when you God, His Majesty The Shahinshah, got coronated. You may resume your French kissing of your icon of His Majesty The Shahinshah now.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Those that called Bush
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:43 ET by 24enakThose that called Bush Hitler were idiotic, those that call any US president Hitler are stupid. Hitler and his regime were pure evil to which a very few are even in the same breath as Hitler's atrocities. I have never seen or even heard about movies about the assassination of Bush, so I don't know what you are talking about.
The biggest difference is that when people were calling the president of the United States Hitler they were your basic crazy, protesters. Today the people that call the president of the United States and his policies Hitler-esque are nationally syndicated radio host, and tv host. To which millions listen or watch, to which millions repeat the Hitler name calling that they heard from the Glenn Beck's and the Rush Limbaugh of the worlds.
You know what, keep calling the president of the United States Hitler, because when you do anything you say afterwards gives you zero credibility. I will say this when a Democrat is in office and when a Republican is in office.
Give it up, Enak - you fell off the edge a while back
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 14:21 ET by SickofLibsYour looney fantasy scenario reminds me of PF's "The Wall".
Or maybe "The Night of Living Dead."
Millions of of flesh-hungry, mind-numbed conservative zombies mumbling "Hitler, Hitler, Hitler" lurching towards the WH with outstretched arms with murderous intent.
That's about as crazy as what you've been peddling here.
enak seems to be rather
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 14:27 ET by bassndudeenak seems to be rather poorly informed.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Hey how about links to Beck
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 15:21 ET by ninerdogHey how about links to Beck Rush and so on saying he is Hitler. You will not find any. However you will find Nancy P calling the American people swastika carry wack jobs.
look what i found.
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 23:15 ET by 24enakYour right, before Beck compares Obama to Hitler he always says, "I'm not comparing Obama to Hitler, but..."
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908120017
http://www.newser.com/story/68013/becks-latest-rant-obama-like-hussein-hitler.html
And Rush, you can't be serious.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908060023
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200908060021
However I did not find Nancy Pelosi call the American people "swastika carry wack jobs." She said "I think they're Astroturf; you be the judge. They're carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on health care." Some protesters have carried swastikas and other nazi symbols like that to town hall meetings, have they not?
http://mediamatters.org/research/200908110023
I'm not calling you a complete idiot like Forrest Gump I'm just saying you love Dr. Pepper like Forrest Gump and have an IQ of 65.
This is FUN.
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 16:41 ET by Tailgunner"I have never seen or even heard about movies about the assassination of Bush, so I don't know what you are talking about."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President
'Death of a President'
George W Bush is assassinated in Chicago.
Dick Cheney assumes the Presidency and begins drastically expanding the powers of his office.
A Syrian man is convicted on 'questionable' evidence for the murder, but it develops that the real assassin was a 'disgruntled vet', a Gulf War vet from 1991 whose son was killed in OIF.
You've 'never heard' of this major British film? I'd think a plot like that would be your 'cup of tea'.
You need to get out more and see what the world looks like...from ABOVE ground.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
a few points for 24
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:11 ET by candance-Please learn the proper use of the word "whom." Seriously.
-There are crazy wackos everywhere. Some of them claim Christianity. Some of them don't.
-Unless you can show a direct link to Glenn Beck and Stephen Anderson (political leanings don't count) this is a blatant smear. Or are you fine with us comparing you to Jeremiah Wright?
2+2 = 5
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:14 ET by katainkentYour conclusion is a stretch. And I am being generous. You say you're in graduate school?
___________________________________________
We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. ~Thomas Jefferson
I almost missed this latest piece of BS.
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 15:37 ET by TailgunnerEnak hyperventilates, "There is a pastor from Arizona, whom preaches to one of the men that attended a Obama town hall with an AR-15 and a handgun."
The man with the AR-15, one of about a dozen legally armed men, had been legally carrying the rifle at the event.
Two police officers, who the armed men notified in advance, stood nearby.
The Secret Service said the men were no threat to the President.
In fact, I read somewhere (I'm looking for it now) that Obama was not even there at the time and would not arrive for hours.
Liberals are trying to make these guys out to be 21st century Oswalds or James Earl Rays and it's NOT working.
You got to do more than just chant, 'AR-15! Obama! AR-15! Obama!' in the same sentence like broken records.
BTW, the man with the AR-15 was BLACK.
In fact, a cameraman for MSNBC won an award for selective editing by showing every inch of the gun, but not one inch of his black skin. This was necessary because MSNBC was producing a false news story on 'armed white racists' bent on gunning down Obama.
Again you take the words of a nobody and try to make them a 'rightwing manifesto' or something.
Get a grip.
Want me to fax you a couple of Valiums or something?
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
Are you NUTS? Who in their right mind would want Obama dead??
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 00:45 ET by TailgunnerThree words: Joe Biden.
Ann Coulter claims Biden's Secret Service code name is "Assassination Insurance".
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
Forgot One
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 01:07 ET by BigMike252Tax Cheats
Three words: Joe
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 05:59 ET by motherbeltThree words: Joe Biden.
So true, LOL....
After Biden, we have Her Speakerness and then Robert Byrd!
Not to be morbid, but I have been thinking lately about that, and it's depressing that, for the first time in my life that I can remember, I look at the line of succession, and wonder how so many imcompetent people managed to rise to the top.
3 words...
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:52 ET by Georgia GirlToo funny. If I hadn't had my morning dose of caffeine, I may not have gotten that one. ^__^
Yes, it's pretty darn depressing, MB. And if you look at the entire set-up -- the House, Senate, media, overseas attitudes -- well, it just gets more depressing.
Thankfully, there is only so far the American people are willing to be led off like this...so there's hope. Ironic, isn't it? That Obama ran on "Hope and Change." He's sure igniting hope and change...America has woken up -- let's pray it's in time.
I have your answer here,
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:31 ET by QueenMumI have your answer here, mother. ;)
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
QM...
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:57 ET by Georgia GirlIt's all making sense now. ((^_^))
Yup. Unlike global warming,
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 09:59 ET by QueenMumYup. Unlike global warming, it's proven science. :)
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Two words
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 00:56 ET by Brad90956Resign, sir.
Video
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 01:05 ET by BigMike252Is Bachmann or Beck a Radical Muslim?
Olby wraps himself around these crazies..........Clearly mis-dosed again
Time to cart Olbermann off to the looney bin? Is this...
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 02:08 ET by jawebster1man desperate for viewers or what? I'm beginning to think people like Olbermann actually want something bad to happen to Obama so they can blame it on the right. Problem is, history tells us that when violent acts occur to politicians, it almost always happens from the left. Jim Webster
Only on MSNBC
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 02:39 ET by sic721"Only on MSNBC, the network that prides itself as the "place for politics"
For years now, I've been calling them "the place for poly-ticks".
Poly-(prefix) Many
Ticks-(noun) Blood-suckers
Poly-ticks=Many blood-suckers. MSNBC is definitely the place you'll find those.
A generation which ignores history has no past -- and no future.-Robert A. Heinlein
MSNBC -- The Place For
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 03:28 ET by winston smithMSNBC -- The Place For Lunatics
Michele Bachmann is crazy
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 02:42 ET by goldwaterfanMichele Bachmann is nuts. What's up with this slashing your wrists rhetoric. Hope fully she loses the primary, and a sane republican holds onto that house seat.
Thus writes a guy who's one
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 03:39 ET by Jack BauerThus writes a guy who's one lefty loon short of a quorum. Oh -- and Goldwater fan my arse.
I didn't know Barry Goldwater. I never spoke to Barry Goldwater. But you sir are no fan of Barry Goldwater.
Jack... You hit the nail
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 16:28 ET by bigtimerJack...
You hit the nail on the head with the trollster that pops in and out now and then..playing pop goes the weasel as usual.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
100% agreement!
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:02 ET by kengieOMG..a ray of light in here..here here my good man (or woman). Its the voodoo in them thats keeps creeping out. We need to warn the others!
"I support the President and his policies" - Normal Americans
I hope you don't
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 14:08 ET by contraryI hope you don't represent "normal Americans."
"No I have the facts"
--The resident Joe Friday
Oberwoman and Savage
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 06:22 ET by canuckWoman hating brown ringers flocking to together.
Only the left and it's New Speak writters can say this.
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 06:44 ET by c5thenOnly a true enemy of the Constitution can call people hatefull and accuse them of "fomenting hatred" for asking that Congress and the Administration actually follow the Constitution and refrain from doing things that are either prohibited or not delegated to the Federal Government.
Throw 'da bums out!!!
no incumbent re-elected, with very few exceptions!
www.loyaltoliberty.com
" What we have to do today
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 07:38 ET by kengie" What we have to do today is make a covenant, to slit our wrists, be blood brothers on this thing. This will not pass. We will do whatever it takes." Michele Bachmann
Are all you people here like that???
Yes.
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 07:45 ET by SickofLibsYes.
ps: look up "allegorical"
kengie - be with you in a sec
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 07:59 ET by FeynmanFanI need to change my bandages.
While I'm gone, read up on blood brother rituals. It'll help you understand what Michele was talking about.
"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde
Voodoo women she is..
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:30 ET by kengieYou people are NUTS!
" Yeah Jerry, thet're out there!! " Kramer on Sienfeild
Kramer should learn how to
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:45 ET by KarmaKramer should learn how to speakt more beter.
Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.
Well what do you expect from
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:59 ET by kengieWell what do you expect from a Kramer..he's a bleeding wrist ..
conservative.
"I do not masterbate...alot!" Edward Scissorshand
Edward should learn how to
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 10:15 ET by KarmaEdward should learn how to spel more buter.
Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.
Kengie-ism #379
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 10:25 ET by SickofLibsWhen you can't even get "masterbate" right, you don't have a leg to stand on. So to speak.
And it's Scissorhands, not Scissorshand.
But kudos on not mangling "Edward"
Sicko knows .....ha!
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:27 ET by kengieOh I forgot..it's Misterbate to you.........
"I support the President and his policies" - Normal America
Kengie - we're nuts?
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:59 ET by FeynmanFanI assume you mean that in an friendly way because that's obviously not a good way to forward your cause in a discussion.
"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde
Voodoo lady..
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 10:44 ET by kengieTo forward my cause???? This voodoo stuff is crazy..period! ...and you people support her??
I support the President, especially his policies" - kengie
Kenjie
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 11:00 ET by FeynmanFanJust because you think something is crazy doesn't mean everyone else does. If you want to take one comment out of context and blow it up, more power to ya. If you want to think she's crazy and everyone who supports her is crazy, knock yourself out.
Your position will only have an impact if your opinion is important to the people you're talking to.
"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde
I rest my
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 11:56 ET by kengieI rest my case!!!!
"I support the President and his policies" - Normal Americans
Abby? Abby Normal?
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:05 ET by katainkentAbby? Abby Normal?
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. ~Thomas Jefferson
Just wait, Kata
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:16 ET by SickofLibsKengie will read that graph from right to left, and respond with a hearty "Ha!"
Psssst, Kengie!
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:07 ET by FeynmanFanI don't think anyone here cares.
It's been fun chatting with you, though. Have a good day.
"I support the President but not his policies" - Blonde
Kengie's a 'one-trick pony'.
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 16:06 ET by TailgunnerThe only arrow in his quiver is to declare his opponent 'insane' as if that's expected to end all discussion.
Not workin' out too well, is it, Kengie?
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
Who believes that animals can sue in court, Kengie? -PETA.
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 15:07 ET by TailgunnerWho believes that Earth is actually a goddess (Gaia)? -Liberal environmental wackos.
Who believes that 'if God is not for us, then he is against us and must be killed'?
Or 'Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the White Enemy'?
-Black Liberation Theology. Reverend Jeremiah Wright's Gospel.
Or, "(T)here are no good crackers, and if you find one, kill him before he changes"? -Khalid Abdul Muhammad of the New Black Panthers' Party.
Or, "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, not God Bless America. God damn America — that's in the Bible — for killing innocent people. God damn America, for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America, as long as she tries to act like she is God, and she is supreme"?
-Reverend Jeremiah Wright, in whose church Barack Hussein Obama sat for one thousand Sundays and now claims he never heard anything like that.
Lunatics on the Left, Kengie.
If you want to start a fight over which side can express the most outrageous beliefs, well so far the score is seven to one.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
I would hardly expect a
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:06 ET by anonymous621I would hardly expect a liberal to grasp the beauty and power of any covenant, kengie. Covenants involve God in one way or another. You liberals don't really get the whole 'God relationship'.
-Eric
Not all usn's here be like that.
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:38 ET by KarmaA lot of us believe the solemn word of our honest brothers and sisters with integrity are sufficient in replacing the traditional blood mixing. Although I have no problem with others performing the ritual either physically, virtually or metaphorically, extreme care should be taken in the wristal area.
Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.
The right has Rush, Beck,
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:04 ET by anonymous621The right has Rush, Beck, Hannity, Ingraham, O'Reilly, Bachmann, etc...so what does the left have? Seriously, who speaks for the left? And why should we listen to them? Who, Garafolo? Matthews? Olbermann? Idiots, the whole lot of them.
The Secret Service knows what's what. I know they are bound to protect Obama due to his station, but even they can read the news and read between the lines. (They're still Americans, after all. And I doubt very many Secret Service personnel are progressive liberals, as the job lends itself to having people with a strong sense of duty and self-sacrifice as requirements.) They know who the enemy to the President is.
Obama needs to fear, if I can use that word, his own posse more than any right-wing speakers. Dan Savage is talking out his butt.
-Eric
only if they do something stupid
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:25 ET by jon_torlinI'm not sure Obeyme would fear his posse all that much, as I said in another post, he's like a crime boss that surrounds himself with lackeys that he's smarter than. A crime boss doesn't want people smarter than him, he'd be worried about being overthrown by them at some point. After all, look who is his VP. Then he's got a guy who's apparently very loyal to him, look at his chief of staff.
Granted, Soros has been pulling million dollar strings and Axelrod's been writing the speeches(only to keep him on script in the public with the TOTUS), though That One slips up and lets his true colors come out from time to time.
I feel sorry for the Secret Service, the abuses they have to be enduring like they did under the Hill when Bill was in office. I wonder if DuhWonna has his own bodyguard besides the Secret Service.
-Jon
I wonder if DuhWonna has
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:37 ET by anonymous621I wonder if DuhWonna has his own bodyguard besides the Secret Service.
Wouldn't that be ACORN, or the New Black Panther Party? Oh, wait, no, they just got him elected. But maybe they hang around to make sure their investment stays safe?
-Eric
What's Crazy
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 08:32 ET by topdog729is that before seeing this video I just finished this vid of chris mathews.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=62705708
No matter what the rants of
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 10:08 ET by jdhawkNo matter what the rants of oberdufus or slimeball, the ratings continue to plummet.
To bad; so sad. lol
One would assume their
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 10:11 ET by anonymous621One would assume their ratings would be much higher, given their target audience: unemployed, slackers, government dependents, people who blame others for their ills and misfortunes...it's not like these people have anything better to do than to watch TV, right?
-Eric
I wonder if the advertisers
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 10:30 ET by mattmI wonder if the advertisers will pull their ads....
Beck Key to City
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 11:28 ET by slickwillie2001Glenn Beck is being honored in his hometown of Mount Vernon, WA:
Mount Vernon to Award Glenn Beck Key to City: http://www.komonews.com
This is sure to send the liberals in Washington state into a frothing hissy fit.
I've noticed that Beck has picked up a couple of celebrity endorsement contracts in the last couple of weeks, one for some kind of insurance and the other something to do with Gold.
You mean he was not the Messiah?
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 12:19 ET by StarAZ"It's a battle about what God wants and what God doesn't want.
Or Obama WAS the Messiah, but not one from God...? What is this God riff all of a sudden. I can't keep up, honestly, I can't.
Dan Savage gave addys of McCain Palin supporters
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 13:44 ET by MrltavernLet's not forget that this degenerate so called writer published the names and addresses of McCain / Palin supporters in Seattle who had McCain lawn signs with the hopes that those supporters would be harassed by degenerates like himself who reads his shitty column. he's a pretentious Cu next Tuesday.
Mr.L
Mr.L's Tavern
"the stranger"?
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 13:52 ET by katainkentI didn't realize this was the same jerk. Houses with McCain signs in our neighborhood had swastikas painted on them after the election. Cars too. When we went to help remove them, I told them to send the Stranger the bill for the powerwasher and the paint.
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We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. ~Thomas Jefferson
I hear Dan Savage gives GREAT 'doorknob'.
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 00:22 ET by Tailgunner"Instead, he (Savage) volunteered for the Bauer campaign with the intent to infect the candidate with his flu. He wrote that he licked doorknobs and other objects in the campaign office, and handed Bauer a saliva-coated pen, hoping to pass the virus on to Bauer and his supporters..."
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=3092
(Read the entire article. There's so much bullshit in here that the stuff written above is probably bullshit too.)
Influenza was the cause of death at 65 for my father.
Lots of class, this guy... :-/
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
What a 'hippo'crite!!
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 14:40 ET by b4m4wyBy your own theory, you are doing the same thing.
Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
Ronald Reagan
God and conservatives
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 17:42 ET by cajun2OK folks, I love reading your posts, veddy interrrresting.But I have questions. Just recently, Obione had a telephone conference with religious leaders asking them to speak from the pulpit to support his agenda. He called it a "partnership with God". Who is the partner? Who is invoking Gods help? Does Obione consider himself an equal partner with God? Is using religion for guidance evil if you are a conservative but its ok if you are Obione? Hypocricy is all around me, Im drowning. Someone throw me a bible.
cajun: And this from the
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 17:45 ET by QueenMumcajun: And this from the man who refused to publicly participate in National Prayer Day. God is not amused.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Right - we all want Obama
Wed, 09/02/2009 - 18:45 ET by ofbbgRight - we all want Obama killed so that Joe "Plugs" Biden, the only VP with foot and mouth disease, can move into the White House. PLEASE!!
I Can Deal With One Set Of Morons, But Two?
Thu, 09/03/2009 - 16:33 ET by The7SticksIt really irritates me that morons like Olbersternfuhrer and Savage can't just let other morons like Michelle Bachmann expose themselves for what they really are by heaping all sorts of horsedung on her. Madame Thundercrack was doing a good job making a fool of herself by claiming that our soldiers, those of whom died in combat defending America, that those soldiers were going to suffer when they were brought back home. Isn't being dead the worst kind of suffering possible? And how about when she says that she'll slit her wrists before anyone tries to pass a public option in our healthcare plan? That's pretty inane in itself.
So no, I don't appreciate when these left-wing morons try to take down the right-wing morons when they're doing a pretty good job by themselves.
7 DEADLY SINS, 7 WAYS TO WIN...
Fri, 09/04/2009 - 05:17 ET by danybhoyI know we on the right are doing a good job of ruining ourselves, but you must ask yourself a question, do conservatives matter? Not right now, because you leftist secular progressive/socialist/marxist/communist/statist/authoritarian wannabees are in total control of the levers of power. You will have no one to blame but yourselves when Obama & the Dems go down in flames. We shall make sure that the American people know what happened.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
Nightwish