How to Cover Pregnancy Contoversies, MSM-style


I think I've got it now. These are the MSM rules when dealing with the personal lives of national candidates and/or members of their family:

Given the chance to publicly embarrass and humiliate a Republican candidate's 17 year old daughter, do it.

If it's a moralizing former Democratic candidate for president, well, leave that to the National Enquirer.

Today, to head off the many tawdry rumors being passed back and forth between the Daily Kos diarists and their MSM fellow travelers, the McCain camp announced that Governor Sarah Palin's 17 year old daughter, Bristol, is pregnant.

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We have been blessed with five wonderful children who we love with all our heart and mean everything to us. Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support

Bristol and the young man she will marry are going to realize very quickly the difficulties of raising a child, which is why they will have the love and support of our entire family. We ask the media, respect our daughter and Levi's privacy as has always been the tradition of children of candidates.

Unfortunately for the Palins, they can count on increased scrutiny and criticism of their parenting and their daughter. Stay tuned as the schaedenfreudists of the left laugh about the "irony" of a social conservative with a pregnant daughter. The truth is, these types of things happen to the best of parents--parents like the Palins.

Hot Air has more.

Anyone find it amazingly coincidental that Daily Kos went after Palin’s own pregnancy right out of the chute on Friday, with no apparent evidence whatsoever, and now we find out that her daughter’s actually pregnant? I usually scoff at the idea of party researchers planting memes with bloggers, especially since the nutroots is so paranoid about that happening on the right, but that’s a simply remarkable stoke of good luck on their part, no?

And Ace even more.

I don't even know what to say, except that teen pregnancy is about to become a Top 10 campaign issue for 2008.

Update 17:00pm ET | RedState has a great post up:

it's fitting that in this moment, one of the toughest a young woman can face, Bristol Palin has chosen on her own to take the right path. This baby is not a "punishment,", as Obama so famously said; it is not an object to be destroyed, as Obama argued for in the Illinois State Senate; he or she is a human life, one worthy of receiving the love of a mother and father. And we rejoice in the knowledge that a family will receive this blessing into the world.

—Jacob S. Lybbert is an editorial associate at NewsBusters.


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My Olberhead brother was

My Olberhead brother was chortling about this today. I asked him if his comment was from KO's mouth to his lips. Being sensitive to the fact that he used to accuse me of being one of Rush Limbaugh's "mind-numbed robots" (when I don't even listen to Rush very often), he didn't reply - in fact, he kind of shut up...

McNotObama '08

This does tarnish the

This does tarnish the squeaky clean image a bit, but I'm sure the libs being the party of inclusiveness and acceptance will gladly understand and applaud the daughter for marrying the father and keeping the baby.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Palin

Unfortunately there is more to come.

Im all for both sides

Im all for both sides airing the dirty laundry.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Unfortunately there is more

Unfortunately there is more to come. -DC2280

?????

Motherbelt,  The Biden

Motherbelt,

 The Biden meltdown video.

More to come??

Chelsea announcing she's  . . .

Umm, I'll hold that thought until I'm sure the dems and the MSM really want to demonstrate it's o-k to pick on politicians children.

C'mon, chicky

What a Scoop!

You must really fancy yourself as someone with all the inside dirt. But everyone in Alaska knew it, and unlike your high-minded clucking, they seem relatively unphased by it all.  Don't dislocated your shoulder patting yourself on the back. 

http://www.time.com/...

How could they understand?

The only thing the party of inclusiveness would understand and applaud would be if she:

A.  Got an abortion

B.  Her parents were never notified about  said abortion

C.  She continued with her life as if she had never made this "mistake"

Who matters

The whackos of the Far Left don't matter. They were going to show their complete lack of class anyway. The consider it hypocrisy to promote family values in the first place, so when a family confronts a problem within, all they can do is sneer. Instead, these are the tests of true parents. This is where love matters, and how parents live in the real world. But these nutcases wouldn't know that. 

Palin walks what she talks. She welcomed the baby. What did Obama call it? Burdened with a mistake? You have to ask yourself: which of these two represents your values? If you think Palin's pregnant daughter should abort the baby as a mistake or a burden, vote Obama. If you welcome life, however it comes, whether it's planned or convenient, then you know the difference.

This is what democracy and freedom really are. It's not a political calculation of what will please the media, but an honest look at what you really believe. Dictatorship is what happens when you follow someone else's values. Freedom is when you follow your own. And if parents follow their own values, they'll appreciate what the Palins are going through, and dismiss Obama.

Obama will never have that

Obama will never have that problem with his daughters, because as soon as they start menstruating, since he doesn't want them to be "punished with a baby" he will apparently supply them with condoms, prescription contraceptives, and a couple of RU-84 tablets. And he will also apparently drive them to an abortion clinic if necessary.

Wrong

"The [sic] consider it hypocrisy to promote family values in the first place..."

No. Like all thinking people, the folks you characterize as "the whackos of the Far Left" (would that be anyone not as far right as you?) consider it hypocrisy to espouse beliefs or behaviors that they violate in their own lives. I'm not saying Palin is guilty of that. Perhaps she did everything she could to pass on her values to her daughter. But then we have people like Larry Craig....

People sometimes "violate"

People sometimes "violate" (to use your word) their beliefs or standards, not because they are hypocrites, but because we are all human, and we fail, and none of us are perfect.

That does not mean that those beliefs and standards are not worthy of holding, and promoting.

 

Amen

I know when I was 17 I made all kinds of mistakes.The only one  I know that can walk on water died for our sins.Palin is doing the right thing by being there for her daughter.If some hypocrites dont like it they can FOAD.Opps there is another mistake.

And another...

"Opps" is spelled "oops," well99.

;^)

 

Indiana

I going to use the twinkie defence.

I'm just sayin'

"Defence" is spelled "defense." 

Yupp

Had a bad day yesterday.Yes I know yup is spell with 1 p.Just trying to be consistant.

Stick to the subject

We're not talking about Larry Craig. Why did you feel the need to bring his name in? Is there a knee-jerk, Pavlovian trigger working there? You have to get beyond those if you wish to be a "thinking person."

You expose your prejudice, however, when you resort to the snide comment about dismissing anyone "as far right" as me. I made sure to restrict my comments to the whackos on the Far Left, like the DailyKos crowd who are celebrating this as an embarrassment. You, however, opted for the cheap comment. Enjoy yourself.

When push came to shove, Palin and her family chose life, inconvenient and socially embarrassing though it may be.

"But then we have people

"But then we have people like Larry Craig...."

Yeah, and Barney Frank, running a gay brothel out of his house. Or Gerry Stubbs, who stuck more than a toe in a page. Like Bill Clinton.

I always love it when the left tries on the "morality suit," and finds it fits even worse than their old high-school letter jacket.

This is a non-issue, and trying to make it one just makes you look like a desperate fool. Unless you can quote Palin as preaching a "no-sex" campaign, you got nothing. 

Gary "I didn't kill Chondra

Gary "I didn't kill Chondra Levy" Condit.

Teddy "Chapaquidick" Kennedy

Robert "KKK" Byrd

Bill "I did not have sex" Clinton

Barney "sex with a male prostitute" Frank

Sandy "Doc in the Pants" Berger

James "Gay Affair" McGreevy

Jesse "Illegitimate Child" Jackson

Eliot "Prostitute ring" Spitzer

 

I realize these don't hold a candle to a "bathroom toe-tapping" incident... at least according to the MSM.

 

 

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Like all thinking people,

Like all thinking people, the folks you characterize as "the whackos of the Far Left" (emphasis added)

This is the same thing I commented on yesterday: the left-wing's tendency to use phrases such as that, and "It's clear" and "clearly" to imply that those who don't see it are ignorant.

You not only include those vicious, mean-spirited people who have
already slandered Gov. Palin among "thinking people," you imply that
anyone who doesn't consider this latest situation hypocrisy is NOT a "thinking" person.

That is the arrogance of left-wingers. It's not enough to say someone is wrong; you have to call them stupid too.

 

the peace-loving Left

That is the arrogance of left-wingers. It's not enough to say someone is wrong; you have to call them stupid too.

MB, in these cases it's called projecting.

Do Palin and McCain not care about Bristol's privacy?

Why did they do this to her.  Put her in the spotlight for a stupid VP selection.  Judgement to Lead?


Protect Traditional Marriage California Get Out the Vote

Traditional Marriage is not "Divisive" President Obama

Palin and McCain

McCain wanted Leiberman and held out for him so long that Palin was not properly vetted. 

Given the kind of coverage this story was bound to get .Both Palin and McCain now look like they have put political ambition before Palin's 17 daughter. Unfortunetely another mess and there is more to come.

 

DC2280

How would holding out for Leiberman damper his people's efforts in properly vetting Palin?  

 

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Palin and McCain

McCain stubbornly held out until he was finally told by his reluctant supporters no Lieberman. His staff waited to long to begin the process and Palin only became a serious candidate in the last couple of days.

Okay, but still. He's old

Okay, but still. He's old friends of Lieberman, and he's been on the short list for forever and has been vetted so much over the years for previous runs, I'm sure, and Palin WAS on their list for much of the year. Why would they not be doing ongoing vetting of her along with others?

Can't they vet more than one properly at a time? Don't presidential camps hire lots of people/vetters? 

Thanks for responding, btw. 

 

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Just wait, Shy

There's more to come. DC's working on that.

;^)

Indiana Joe

I dunno... guy has me a bit nervous. I do have a sixth sense that something's coming down the pike, and I hope I'm wrong. Still, not even sure if it'll be bad enough to oust her as VP, and not sure if our friend is rooting for or against this happening, but with his cryptic posts I'm guessing he's not on our side.

Either way, I think the next two months are going to be a whirlwind of see-saw polls, revelations, semi-scandals on either side, etc., and still McCain, by simply being the way-more qualified candidate -- and Saddleback exposing Obama for the empty, no-ideas/values suit he is -- will come out on top, even if some worst case scenario happens with the VP, or anything else surrounding him. 

 

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Dirty politics

More to come? Don't tell me, Palin was hanging out with Rev Wright? No? Rezco then? No? Hmmm, Farrakhan maybe? No? Wrote a book and said 'if the muslims take over, she'll join 'em'? No? Worked for Acorn generating voter fraud? No?

Still waiting.

D

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Dirty Politics

Watch and see. As I said yesterday Palin will not be on the ticket November 4.

Exit strategy

Thanks for the info, now I know not to pay any attention to you anymore.

D

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Take your meds regular like

Take your meds regular like ok.  It puts things into perspective.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

DC... Put up or shut

DC...

Put up or shut up...

the only other thing I have always been worried about and have stated as such with links for quite awhile now is the ethics investigation going on with her in Ak. which the results/findings aren't supposed to be completed one week before the election date... which is worrisome to me.

If you know something say what it is...otherwise shut up until you can prove what you are talking about...I am very sick of your constant same posts like this.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Watch and see. As I said

Watch and see. As I said yesterday Palin will not be on the ticket November 4.

Was that you who said this was all planned: Palin would withdraw and Romney would end up on the ticket? I coulen't remember where I saw it...thought it was on a lefty blog.

If you have some knowledge we lack, let's have it. If not, and it's just a prediction, there is no need to keep repeating it.

it's kind of childish to just keep saying "Wait and see....you'll see I'm right."

I

He has nothing.  He's just

He has nothing.  He's just your usual Trollkin.

Among normal people, this

Among normal people, this is a complete non-issue. Only the Daily Kos and DU nut jobs will make anything of this, and we all know that none of those bozos has a life. Indeed, given their aberrant personalities and poor personal hygeine, none of them stand even a remote chance of getting a girl pregnant, much as they would like to.

McCain knew of this fact when he picked Sarah Palinas his running mate. He rightfully considered it a private family matter and not significant to Palin's character or qualifications. We should all get back to the issues and spend our energy on worrying about the state of our country, rather than on the private life of one teenaged girl.

Palin

The worst is yet to come.

Echo echo echo

Either substantiate your repeated posts or shut it.

Echo II

Don't tell him to shut it! He was in the Navy for 59 years!

D

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I know I'm repeating myself,

I know I'm repeating myself, but it's just like PopularTech all over again.

yes, it is.   It will

yes, it is.   It will evenyually become known that Obama is closely tied to both Ayers and Rezko.  In time for the November election?  we shall see.

Obama is no more than a Chicago gangster.   Hes does not belong in elective office.  He belongs in jail.

DC, it must be tough for you

No real negative news out of NOLA. Grillin' up Labor Day hot dogs cheerin' on the waves at the levy walls.

I'm just sayin' what I'm sure is the case.

"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain

I said yesterday, they are

I said yesterday, they are afraid of her on the ticket, so they will try to force her to withdraw.

And right after that I came across a lefty blog that claimed that was McCain's plan....name Palin, she has to withdraw, McCain then names Romney. 

 

 

Hmmmm

If one of Obama's girls gets pregnant when they're Bristol's age he doesn't want them punished. He admits that even a good parent, teaching morals and such, can't control the mistake of the child.

The contrast is he would want his child to have an abortion so she wouldn't be punished.If the abortion fails and the baby is born alive then he would want it to be placed in a linen closet or sink until it dies.

Bristol's child would be born into a loving and forgiving family.

aahhh....but they are

aahhh....but they are hypocrites!!!

<sarc off>

LOE....See my comment above re Obama's daughters.

Get ready for an orgy of gloating.

Palin's statement was a masterpiece. As long as she refuses to be drawn into arguing about it, they will eventually find something else to glom onto.

The party of compassion for unwed mothers

Of course, if this doesn't send a message to unwed mothers, I don't know what else will.

LOE

u are so full of crap...Obama wants education and choice...Your nasty imagination are the stuff of a vacuous mind.

As the mother of a daughter, I made education a priorty but Palin's religion [Pentacostal] does not support education/ or birth control. RE: she has 5 children and a grandchild on the way.

Tragedy..

Yeah, education and

Yeah, education and choice.... those living babies of failed abortions would probably choose to have an education, that is, if they weren't tossed on the garbage heap to die.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

docb,

"u are so full of crap...Obama wants education and choice...Your nasty imagination are the stuff of a vacuous mind.

As the mother of a daughter, I made education a priorty but Palin's
religion [Pentacostal] does not support education/ or birth control.
RE: she has 5 children and a grandchild on the way."

Wow. So Palin doesn't support education because she doesn't think Public Schools should be teaching 13 year olds how to have sex?  Public schools shouldn't teach faith or morality, but should teach teenagers how to have sex?!  And you wonder why we have so many problems in this country today...

Palin doesn't support birth control?!  Or did you mean to say that Palin doesn't support the public school system administering birth control to children (which is what liberals like you want and without parental consent). There's just a slight difference. 

docb = typical liberal, single mother that can't raise her daughter, so she wants the government to do it for her.

What a leap of logic

What a leap of logic "Palin's religion [Pentacostal] does not support education/ or birth control. RE: she has 5 children and a grandchild on the way."  You are pretty obtuse because how does a belief in no artificial birth control wipe out education or choice.  And furthermore how does it make your daughter have a child, if anything it says to your daughter no sex before marriage. 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Liberals just don't

Liberals just don't understand... Free and easy access to contraceptives leads to free and easy sex which leads to a dramatic increase in irresponsible behavior. Removing consequences of irresponsible behavior (in this case, the baby), will only lead to more irresponsible behavior.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

In all honesty...

I have to admit that I was not at all happy when I heard this piece of news. That said, I am sure, despite Obama's campaign stating that they would basically leave this subject alone, that his minions on the loony left will be more than happy to make as much hay out of this issue as possible, all the way to election day.

"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981

As motherbelt mentioned

Let them expose their hypocrisy.

I'm not saddened at all by this news. We all come from families where things like this happen. Why the gloom? Do you believe this only happens to irresponsible parents?

Keep your chin up PS!

re: LOE

No, I don't believe that this type of thing "...only happens to irresponsible parents", as you put it. But, given her initial appearance as a squeaky clean conservative with no apparent skeletons in her closet, I am a bit disillusioned that all is not as it at first appeared with Gov. Palin. Good or bad, it is what it is, and now my main concern is that the Dems and their "helpers" on the left and in the media will do all they can to use this as a club to beat up on the Republicans every chance they can.

"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981

I have nothing but sympathy

I have nothing but sympathy and admiration for the Palin family and the family of the baby's father, to support and help them.

But I think about McCain and I want to scream...WHY do Republicans always have to give the left-wingers ammunition????? He had to know what they would do with it!

I know I'm ambivalent.  I think Palin is a terrific choice.  I will be praying for the family that they will have the strength to withstand what the left wing nutcases have in store for them.

It's only ammunition because

It's only ammunition because she's a Republican.  If this was a Democrat family, the media wouldn't care.  Maybe McCain, in his attempt at fairness, thought that the media would be fair as well.  He seems a little naive in that respect.

Naive??? John

Naive??? John McCain????

Nah! He knows the media likes him!!!

I need more duct tape!!

Pregnancy

Are we to become silent hypocrites now to appease the left wing media ? I thought the Palins realistic acceptance was grounded in truth more than avoidance .

I suspect this campaign has the feel of a tit for tat sniping war from the left and the national press. They've got a lotta snipers and its deadly fire. McCains got to get in front of this and say something to the effect that life does began at conception and we all pray for the welfare and safety of the unborn child. It is now a living being and therefore deserving of our protection.

 

Elizabeth Edwards

Has anyone heard her lecture us on how our voyeuristic media is going to be bad on this?  I mean I am just asking.  The voyeurism on her situation was stopped by the media as soon as she asked.  I just don't know why the MSM won't leave this be? The MSM is waiting for the all clear from Louisiana and then we will be off and running with the pregers story 24/7.

Makes me nuts.

It's a shame that these

It's a shame that these creeps have forced Gov. Palin to give up her family's privacy in order to fight back against the nasty insinuations about her own pregnancy.  It's better that she release this information than having the liberals stalk her family and then come out with a "shocking" revelation about her daughter. 

Remember folks, it's only private if you're a Democrat!

An issue? Why?

Okay, so what's the big deal? That teens sometimes make a mistake and get pregnant is a well-known fact. Anyone shocked by it is severely out of touch. So, the question becomes, what do you do about it?

Palin's daughter has made the choice to keep the baby, and plans to marry the father. Palin is supporting that decision. That should please the pro-"choice" contingent, if they truly believe in choice.

I can see the leftists gleeful if Bristol had decided on abortion. They could push the "hypocrite" label on Palin. But this? Nope, no way, no how. In fact, I think it's great to see a family having to deal with normal family problems. Not the choice of sending the kids to Harvard or Yale. Dealing with the type of problems average people have to deal with. And living up to their principles exactly as advertised.

Anyone thinking this smudges Palin or McCain is just grasping at straws and showing their own hypocrisy. Even discussing it gives it more weight than it should have. This is a text-book "non-issue."

If it had been Biden's

If it had been Biden's teenage daughter, you guys would be falling all over yourselves to point out the corrupt morals and "do it if it feels good" mentality of the left. But someone on the right has a pregnant teenager? It's just "one of those things" that could happen to anyone. A part of life. 

Bal!

Wazzup? Where you been? 

 

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Bizzy, bizzy, bizzy. Work

Bizzy, bizzy, bizzy. Work work work. I've tried to keep up with stuff on here, but haven't had a chance to really hunker down.

boa... If it was Biden's

boa...

If it was Biden's daughter or anybody else's I wouldn't feel any different than I do about this.

...the only thing I would hope is they didn't council her to have an abortion, but as long as it was a private matter and kept private between them, it matters not to me.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Exactly BT and most conservatives would feel the same

Many (including myself) wouldn't even judge if they had a child who had an abortion as long as the parents had not advocated it. Unfortunately because of liberals, many children do this without consulting a parent and never get to find out that they could have had the support of their parents if they had the child. That's the saddest part of the whole thing.

That's because you're

That's because you're reasonable (for the most part ;-) ).

Biden has a teenage

Biden has a teenage daughter?  I would've thought he would have had teenage granddaughters by now.

"If."

"If."

Bal

I think your wrong on this:

"If it had been Biden's teenage daughter, you guys would be falling all over yourselves to point out the corrupt morals and "do it if it feels good" mentality of the left. But someone on the right has a pregnant teenager? It's just "one of those things" that could happen to anyone. A part of life."

That is a pretty cynical view.Most in here are adults and understand kids make mistakes.I dont care what party or political view most reasonable people understand

" It's just "one of those things" that could happen to anyone. A part of life."

Oh by the way good job by the left takeing cheap shots at the daughter before this came out.A bunch of PABs. 

  

Really? You don't think

Really? You don't think people on this board would be saying that? I feel pretty certain they would.

The more reasonable members wouldn't, but I think there'd definitely be some claiming it's just another indication of the decrepit left's morals.

Bal

There will always be a few that put politics ahead of everything.Doesnt matter which party/view.I dont see most on this board that way.

No boa... You said you

No boa...

You said you guys as a collective in your first post....

Now you say some...

After you see the responses you are getting from us.

That's just like the msm talking heads using SOME PEOPLE SAY all the time...and you darned well know it.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Fair enough. But I still

Fair enough. But I still think there would be posts saying those things, more than you think.

Maybe so, bal

For example; we have no proof Obama's brother in Kenya is anything but happy with his packing crate home, yet we quickly jumped on that story from an angle that Obama doesn't care.

I agree, we would be seeing some comments, but the point is pointless, since Dems don't allow their kids to be "punished"

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 it's not that...the media

 it's not that...the media would not let THAT be a story and THAT is what we would be talking about..

 

 

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Some of you would. Some of

Some of you would. Some of you wouldn't.

Good point bal

But you'd have to come up with another scenario since a "problem" like that wouldn't advance beyond the first trimester if that's all it takes to get on the ticket.

Give the Dems some credit for adhering to their priorities.

Rocky & Bullwinkle '08

Ya never know. You know how

Ya never know. You know how Dems love to have kids out of wedlock, flaunting society's norms.

Wow Bal

Nice shot.What no sarc off..)The problem is folks cant seperate those from the hard left with those that are liberal.Same with folks on the other side of the fence.There are extremes from both sides of the isle who have no integrity.The media which is heavy Dem puts out a message of overwhelming bias.So folks tend to equate all dems with them.I sure Joe Dem and Joe Repub have alot of shared values.Unfortunately you see more on the boob tube and in the print these yutts that are Dems and all Dems are judged the same as these twits.

Bull***t, Bal.

Nice try, though. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

There'd be some of that

But conservatives would want Biden's teenage daughter to keep the hypothetical baby & marry the hypothetical dad, and that's what this kid's doing, right?
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

the standard liberal disclaimer

"But you guys do it tooooo"

Of course, since Biden's daughter is not having a baby, there is no way to prove what anyone on this forum would say about it.   Having no proof, the liberal inevitably says that the conservatives would act in a completely similar manner if the situation were reversed.  In his mind, this vindicates anything he says about Palin's daughter.  Its easy to do and requires absolutely no thought.

Yawn

    Where in the rightwing nutjob screed is anything about teen pregnancies?

    Limited government, free martkets, free trade, upholding the Constitution and principles of the Declaration of Independence, American pride, strong national defense, punching hippies.

   Sounds like a personal family issue, none of my business.

One can't have enough

One can't have enough "punching hippies".

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Amen brother.

  See you at the RW Nutjob monthly meeting on Tuesday. Rove is gonna give a speech again. Cheney is running the paintball competition. I am NOT gonna be on his team again. My butt is still blue. You know from the paint, see. Get it? Cheney accidentally peppered a hunting partner. See? Get it? Now my butt is blue. See? He accidentally shot me in the butt with a blue paintball. Oh why do I try...

Barack Obama's parentage?

Was Barack Obama's mother not an unwed teenager?

Yes

And Obama's father had his own ... peculiarities. But how much of that have you read on this website? I think I saw a link to a couple such stories, months ago when Obama started out, but I have seen almost nothing about it since. I've been grateful for that.

Great!

I think this actually speaks volumes as to the kind of parents the Palin's are.  Put yourself in Bristols position, your Mom has just been annouced as the first GOP VP nominee and you have to tell her your pregnant.  They have a must special relationship to be able to communicate these circumstances with each other at this time.  Understanding consrvative principles as I believe I do, I think this is exactly what I would want my pregnant 17 year old daughter to do, regardless of my career.  I see this as a positive more than a negative.

Ahem

I do believe congratulations should be in order here to Gov. Sarah Palin on her first grandchild.  May God bless her with many more.

 

For those Americans just

For those Americans just now beginning to pay some serious attention to the candidates, it must be clear that the Obama/Biden team has ordered their attack dogs, including the MSM, to destroy Gov. Palin and her family. This is what the left does, taking its cue not from Marx, but from Lenin.

Couple that with the sheer joy the former head of the DNC and Michael Moore expressed over Hurricane Gustav, and all Americans now get a really clear picture of what the leftists are all about.

Obviously, Barack and Biden understand that the papier-mache cartoon character called Barry Obama created by David Axelrod will melt to a pile of goo as the McCain/Palin ticket advances.

The major media report only half the news. Why are they surprised they have only half the potential audience?

Did you expect ROSES?

 Most of the time you go, "How could they do that?" or "How could they say those things about someone's child", and you never seem to actually come up with the answer. You scrupulously laid off Chelsea then you watched as liberals attacked Barbara and Jenna with aplomb. You stare in shock as the left pursues some witchhunt or other, that would have them impaling themselves on dildoes of righteous indignation, were they themselves being scrutinized in like manner.  But you still don't get it. You still persist in being the good natured joes you are.You still think that the left is just "different" and that "reasonable people can see things two different ways and no one is necessarily evil". Maybe you think that way because you're basically "good" and think everyone's like you. Maybe you're like Rick in Casablanca and just "misinformed", in either case, you're sadly and greatly mistaken. Reasonable people can't see the murder of children "two different" ways, if one of them ends up with dead children!  Part of the problem, is that you've grown up with a lot of false religion mixed in with the truth. We all have. "WE'RE ALL GOD'S CHILDREN", sound familiar? Of course it does, we've heard it thousands of times. The problem is that "biblically" it isn't true. In fact, Jesus specifically, in painstaking detail, taught the exact opposite! HE said in the parable of the Wheat and the Tares, Matt 13:24-30, with the explanation here, Matt 13:36-41, that many people on earth do not in fact belong to Him. That's why they can think that two men should call what they commit upon each other "marriage", or can think that the interruption of a developing life in the womb is not "murder".  If you pin one down, they can't even understand that but for their "intervention" a human being would be alive and going to the friggin' dry cleaners! It's like something clouds their reasoning. Well it's because only His "sheep" will hear His voice (John 10:27). And since He is truth, it is no wonder that those who are not His, embrace, spread, or revel in, lies! I realize that some will be uncomfortable about this discussion of religion but I really feel that it is in this province that the solution can be found. Maybe if you wake up you won't keep "bringin' a knife to a gunfight"!

 

See, it doesn't surprise me that an alleged Christian like Obama, would start preaching that "Jesus isn't the only way" ( Listen to the audio, here, http://blog.christoc...). He could have pointed out that he isn't a minister and that those questions are "above his paygrade", hmmm, why does that sound familiar? But see, he wasn't as cagey then, back then he answered the questions with his liberal satanic view of the world! So when,he as an alleged Christian supports infanticide or that he finds support for gay unions in the SERMON ON THE MOUNT, but can't seem to agree with all of the "obscure scriptures" which specifically condemn homosexuality,   (http://www.bpnews.ne...) I'm not surprised at all.  Have you listened to this guys Pastor??? The preachers religion is from Satan not Jesus! ( 2 Corinthians 11:13-15).  "Black liberation theology" teaches it's worshippers to hate whites, and Jesus said that hating one's brother is a "no-no" and earns you a quick ride to a hot lake (1John 3:15 and 4:20).  It's no shock to me that Pelosi would tell masterfully constructed lies about the position of the Catholic Church as it relates to abortion and in her version, it's the Church that doesn't know IT'S position! For the record the Catholic churches position on abortion is one HUNDRED percent biblical, contrary to some of their other notions which we could, but won't, expound on here! Nor sadly, does it surprise me that Alan Colmes and CBS' John Roberts, would now insist that Palin's a deadbeat mom for "abandoning" her special needs child.  They are after all, in most cases, just doing their fathers work (John 8:44) and as far as vilifying the daughter of a Vice Presidential candidate? Just another day in liberal land. Most of us on the other hand, really need to wake up.

EXIT QUESTION:  If you don't recognize your enemy as your enemy, how can you possibly beat him?

Good points all

But hard to think about.  I think most people generally believe people are not evil, with few exceptions.  They turn the other cheek or give someone the benefit of the doubt.  Then, when people who are truely bad people come along, most don't recognise them as bad.  You've got some really good arguments and I think I will pass them on to other people.  Thank you.