David Letterman, who a month ago doubted George Bush and Dick Cheney have any “humanity,” on Wednesday's Late Show pushed a guest to confirm “that George Bush's administration is clearly guilty of war crimes.” Far-left “journalist” Jane Mayer of the New Yorker was invited onto the Late Show to plug her new book, 'The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How the War on Terror Turned into a War on American Ideals.' Late in her second segment, Letterman recalled how “about a year ago” a Democratic presidential candidate was a guest and during a commercial break Letterman had wondered:
“What do you think George Bush's legacy might be?” And he says, “well, I tell you what ought to happen to him, he should be arrested and tried for war crimes.” And we all sort of thought, well, he's being wacky, he's being funny. But now, you wonder...
After Mayer suggested “I don't think they're laughing about it in the White House” and relayed how “in Congress there are people who are at least pushing for truth commissions,” Letterman pressed her: “But can a case be made that George Bush's administration is clearly guilty of war crimes? That's easy enough to make that case, or.” Mayer demurred: “I'm not a lawyer.”
About a year ago two Democratic candidates were Late Show guests: Dennis Kucinich on Friday, June 29, 2007 and Joe Biden on Tuesday, July 31, 2007. Calling for Bush's arrest sounds a lot more like Kucinich than Biden.
Last week, Mark Finkelstein noticed, CNN's Jack Cafferty had highlighted Mayer's “war crimes” allegations: “A new book titled The Dark Side, by New Yorker writer Jane Mayer, suggests top administration officials, including President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Don Rumsfeld and others, may be guilty of war crimes.”
Back in 1994, Mayer wrote the anti-Thomas screed, Strange Justice: The Selling of Clarence Thomas.
My June 12 NewsBusters item, “Letterman on Bush & Cheney: 'Is There Any Humanity in Either of These Guys?'” recounted:
Channeling Keith Olbermann, David Letterman on Wednesday night proposed to guest Scott McClellan that President Bush and Vice President Cheney “just couldn't care less about Americans” since “all they really want to do is somehow kiss up to the oil people so they can get some great annuity when they're out of office,” and so he marveled: “Is there any humanity in either of these guys?” Letterman's conspiratorial rant:
My feeling about Cheney, and also Bush, but especially Cheney is that he just couldn't care less about Americans. And the same is true of George Bush. And all they really want to do is somehow kiss up to the oil people so they can get some great annuity when they're out of office. [audience applause] “There you go Dick [hand motion of distributing cash], nice job. There's a couple of billion for your troubles.” I mean, he pretty much put Halliburton in business and the outsourcing of the military resources to private mercenary groups and so forth. Is there any humanity in either of these guys?
The discussion about “war crimes” on the Wednesday, July 23 Late Show with David Letterman on CBS:
DAVID LETTERMAN: About a year ago we had a guy on who was running for President of the United States – is out now -- but was campaigning and during the commercial I said to him, “what do you think-” -- and he's a Democrat -- I said, “what do you think George Bush's legacy might be?” And he says, “well, I tell you what ought to happen to him, he should be arrested and tried for war crimes.” And we all sort of thought, well, he's being wacky, he's being funny. But now, you wonder, what was he talking about?
JANE MAYER: Well, I don't think they're laughing about it in the White House, anyway, right now. There are people talking about war crimes trials. I, you know, in Congress there are people who are at least pushing for truth commissions, they want to see what happened in this program. There are all these dark secrets, still. I mean, I got as many as I could get into this book, but there's a lot that we still don't know.
LETTERMAN: Well we believe that a trial will never happen, but can a case be made that George Bush's administration is clearly guilty of war crimes? That's easy enough to make that case, or-
MAYER: Well, you know, I'm not a lawyer, also, but I think that what they did was they said that the Geneva conventions don't apply to terrorists. so when that happened they basically said war crimes are just not applicable, so-
LETTERMAN: Is that spelled out in the Geneva convention, “oh by the way none of this applies to terrorists?”
MAYER: No, it's not. It took special lawyers to come up with special answers, which is what they did here.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center





Channeling Keith Olbermann, David Letterman on Wednesday night proposed to guest Scott McClellan that President Bush and Vice President Cheney “just couldn't care less about Americans” since “all they really want to do is somehow kiss up to the oil people so they can get some great annuity when they're out of office,” and so he marveled: “Is there any humanity in either of these guys?” Letterman's conspiratorial rant:
JANE MAYER: Well, I don't think they're laughing about it in the White House, anyway, right now. There are people talking about war crimes trials. I, you know, in Congress there are people who are at least pushing for truth commissions, they want to see what happened in this program. There are all these dark secrets, still. I mean, I got as many as I could get into this book, but there's a lot that we still don't know.















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David Letterman...
July 24, 2008 - 03:38 ET by ncstevemgirly man through and through.
Letterman is the type of
July 24, 2008 - 06:56 ET by AlgerHissLetterman is the type of weak, soft male that can not stand other males being strong and correct. THIS is the reason he dislikes Cheney and Rumsfeld so much.
Any females in Letterman's life know they must seek physical protection from other males.
Rochester, Minnesota: A Fem_Leftist City!
Not likely. More like he
July 24, 2008 - 10:08 ET by balboaNot likely. More like he disagrees with your "strong" men.
Letterman has more political discussions because shows like his are branching out more. They discuss more topics today than they used to.
And, therein lies the problem...
July 24, 2008 - 10:54 ET by ontheright...When I'm done with a long hard day of work I damn sure don't want to turn to a late night comedy show for political opinion and/or faux news (read: spun)...especially from a girlie man like David Letterman.
Hey David, stick to the comedy, you're almost good at that!
like BDS good strategy
July 24, 2008 - 10:55 ET by TruthMongerlike BDS
good strategy dave
your ratings will shoot down through the floor now
He is "King" David no more...
July 24, 2008 - 07:41 ET by goldenthroatWar Crimes? WHAT war crimes, David? You can't name them because there are no war crimes being committed by this administrtion, you idiot!
This is one reason I stopped watching Letterman's show. His blantant, critical and crase negativity have been sending his show into the dumper for years now. He is a lousy interviewer who continually interrupts his guests while they are responding to his questions and is hopelessly in love with only one person on his show - himself!
Is it any wonder why Jay Leno's ratings are beating the living crap out of his?
Since he relishes pointing the finger at 'wrongdoers', maybe he needs to point it at himself for having a baby out of wedlock and living with the child's mother without marrying her - and then he goes on his show and makes jokes about it!
Letterman continues to show that he is nothing more than a Late Show hypocrite. Too bad it's Leno leaving in 2009 instead of Letterman.
"Everything you know is wrong!" - Firesign Theatre (and the MSM)
Sounds like
July 25, 2008 - 08:21 ET by kilrodThis is one reason I stopped watching Letterman's show. His blantant, critical and crase negativity have been sending his show into the dumper for years now. He is a lousy interviewer who continually interrupts his guests while they are responding to his questions and is hopelessly in love with only one person on his show - himself!
Sounds like the polo caca crissy matthews .!! maybe they're related.
(GRINS) kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
Greetings, board.
July 24, 2008 - 04:02 ET by TakeaRightI’ve been reading for years, but this is m first post.
Letterman is a perfect example of the generational change. Johnny Carson was a liberal, but had the class and good judgment to not let his politics intrude on his show. Both sides were fair game to him, and one wouldn’t know his views without reading more about him.
Letterman is embarrassingly uninformed. Look how easy it is for someone like O’Reilly to best him on his own show. Letterman got his job by virtue of a couple of good routines and planting his head firmly up Carson’s butt. I liked it better when he kept his head there: at least his opinions were muffled.
Welcome, TakeaRight!
July 24, 2008 - 06:33 ET by motherbeltWelcome, TakeaRight!
I agree; there is too much melding of politics and entertainment (thank you Bill Clinton). Now every politician thinks he/she has to appear in these venues and the Oprah/Ellen/The View daytime circuit. And now we have political "pundits" like David Letterman.
The "clearly guilty of war crimes" is another version of the left's "That's a fact."
They think if they say "That's a fact" after their version of things, that precludes all possible disagreement.
As for his claim that Bush pretty much put Halliburton in business that's another example of his ignorance. Halliburton has been doing government contract work for years, and in fact was hired by ....wait for it.....President Bill Clinton in the 90's for work in Bosnia.
Facts? We don't need no stinking facts!
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Halliburton is way older than that
July 24, 2008 - 13:49 ET by wizardjrThey were servicing oil field equipment and people at least as far back as the 60's. They started in 1919 for goodness sakes.
You couldn't go into a bar in the Orient in the 70's and 80's without seeing Halliburton stickers everwhere along with the other biggies.
LOL
July 25, 2008 - 08:33 ET by kilrodSOo funny, lady-bird johnson was a halliburton, during the Vietnam "conflict" halliburton via brown&root did a huge amount of work in Vietnam curtacy of lyndon johnson and the DIM-o- craps.
(GRINS) kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
A tired old whine
July 24, 2008 - 04:15 ET by UnsaneThe same people who trot out this tired whine are the same people who will not utter a PEEP about a certain president who is rumored to have personally trampled the Vienna Convention and every other diplomatic convention possible when the embassy takeover in Tehran occurred.
For starters.
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
Guilty of War Crimes?
July 24, 2008 - 04:58 ET by Pete WilsonI keep hearing liberals/progrssives talk about "War Crimes" the Bush administration is guilty of. However, they never make any specificity as to exactly what those "war crimes" are. Until I hear some specificity, I will continue to ignore their rants. I havent watched Letterman in years, and will continue that trend.
War crimes
July 24, 2008 - 05:48 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsI only know of one US President convicted of war crimes, why is this fact covered up and why don't these people call for his imprisonment?
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Useless trivia
July 24, 2008 - 08:23 ET by blogonatorA court in Milosevic's Belgrade convicting Clinton in abstentia of war crimes? Somehow I'm doubting the integrity and impartiality of the process there.
I agree. But then we can
July 24, 2008 - 08:26 ET by athoughtor2I agree. But then we can doubt the intergrity and impartiality of this guest, letterman and other left wing nut jobs. I love how she claims war crimes and then says well i'm not a lawyer.
I hope she at least talked to a lawyer...
July 24, 2008 - 08:35 ET by blogonatorwhen she wrote her book. I'll have to check it out when it makes it to the library.
That's even better. Why
July 24, 2008 - 08:52 ET by athoughtor2That's even better. Why then wouldn't you say, I consulted a lawyer, b/c I am not one and this is what i concluded....
Dan Rather, should have done some fact checking as well.
Hook line sinker
July 24, 2008 - 15:26 ET by UnsaneAnd you will believe everything written therein because you absolutely, positively want to believe the worst about your country, as you have demonstrated on here time and time again.
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
And you will again reassure yourself that you somehow know me
July 25, 2008 - 07:59 ET by blogonatorWe've been down this road before. Unless you have something new to add, let's all just take it as a given that you think I hate my country and leave it at that. I'm sure the others would appreciate it.
Quit giving yourself away then
July 26, 2008 - 07:31 ET by UnsaneKeep right on whining. I'm not the one routinely accusing my own country of countless offenses.
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
War Crimes
July 24, 2008 - 05:54 ET by EvilRoyWar is a legally recognized state of affairs between two or more nations. As such there are certain rules of conduct that are expected, such as prisoners taken in battle will be humanely treated. When these conventions are not met then the participant is acting in an extra legal manner. That is why the President must get approval from Congress to engage in war, Congress is the legislative branch and they are legal responsible to enter into a state of war.
For an accusation of war crimes to stick someone would have to specifically state what action or actions the President, acting as the ultimate military commander, made that was illegal. Whether that can be done is the question. Would the President be tried here in the US or would he be handed over to the UN for trial in Europe (the Hague). We need an attorney knowledgeable in international criminal law to school us. David Letterman is NOT that person. He was, by his own admission, an average student. I attended Ball State at the same time as he did and while we never met I heard him on the college radio several times and it was clear then he was a goofball and not a serious scholar.
Letterman
July 24, 2008 - 06:15 ET by TruestarIt really pains me to criticize Letterman. He's been practically a Carson to me for over two decades. I think he's a truly talented guy, but of course, quite goofy. Which has it's appeal.
However, whenever he tries to be serious about anything, notably politics, he's just unwatchable. Letterman has always been self-deprecating, for good reason, and that's why he can be so very funny.
Thus, whenever he "interviews" politicians or political people, it's just unwatchable. Especially in the past few years with all the Bush "humor". He's had a verifiable clown like Olbermann on, and treated him with utter humorless respect. While he's also had O'Reilly on, and basically made an a** of himself attempting to make O'Reilly look bad.
Letterman is truly what he's always said he is---a dope. So it's always sad and disturbing to me when he tries to be serious or political. He's a lefty and a dope, so he does himself no service by advertising such on his show. That's when I, and I presume millions of others, click on to the next channel. Bye bye Dave!
I understand how you feel,
July 24, 2008 - 06:26 ET by NewsbusterbrownI understand how you feel, Truestar. I used to watch his show all of the time during the '80s and thought he was also terrific. Very disappointing to hear this crap from him now (I don't watch his show anymore).
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
I just wonder...
July 24, 2008 - 09:08 ET by on-the-rocksif he thinks he is catering to what his audience wants. Or maybe he feels his paycheck is secure enough that a few dips in the ratings won't matter.
Back in the days when there
July 24, 2008 - 06:20 ET by KillgraveBack in the days when there were only a few TV channels, and no Internet, Letterman's show was actually quite edgy and fun to watch.
Flash forward a quarter of a century. Now he is completely crowded out by countless media alternatives. As far as I know, he is doing the same jokes and the same rountines he did 25 years ago. He's the real-life version of Crusty the Clown.
He must be so bitter. Once he was something hip. He enjoyed a large, young audience (a very lucrative demographic). Now he can barely attract the attention of the middle-aged (at best). No one cares about him any more.
If he is such a good
July 24, 2008 - 06:56 ET by athoughtor2If he is such a good interviewer, not my opinion, then why didn't he ask his guest to tell us what "war crimes" the President has committed. Why didn't the guest expound on said crimes on her own? I think we know the answer to those question....
Letterman
July 24, 2008 - 07:05 ET by 10ksnookerIs a serious thinker, for a goof ball. What do you expect.
Poor Dave
July 24, 2008 - 07:20 ET by Kuso JijiThe guy seems uttlerly clueless these days.
I used to love his show but its been a decade or so since I noticed him failing in his comidic responsibilities.
I rarely tune in anymore to see what Dave is up to. When he goes off the air, I probably will not even notice.
I'm already getting my
July 24, 2008 - 08:47 ET by contraryI'm already getting my Impeach Obama bumper stickers out and organizing protests.
"I don't have time for this. You all can continue your co-dependency posts and make yourselves feel all chummy... Frankly, you all don't represent where America is going and you might as well get used to it."
--The Dooper
Stop me before I assume again
July 24, 2008 - 08:58 ET by KC MulvilleLetterman's argument is that since the Geneva convention didn't explicitly say that the rules don't apply to terrorists, that we must treat terrorists in the same way we treat uniformed soldiers. I guess we just give them a pass on that whole uniform thing.
Which is, of course, stupid. The rules agreed to in the convention were concerned with the protection of uniformed soldiers (lawful combatants) and civilians. The conventions said nothing about what we now call unlawful combatants. As it is, there has been no agreement on what to do with terrorists. There have been some commentators who argue that we must treat the terrorists as lawful combatants, but whether you agree with that or not, the fact is that nothing has been agreed to.
Even if the Geneva Convention meets again, and draws up rules, or just decides that terrorists are to be treated as soldiers, it wouldn't make any difference. There is no existing law that covers illegal combatants. It's not the kind of thing that can be retroactive, either. There is, therefore, absolutely no legal basis for any "war crimes" prosecution.
The administration didn't create a fanciful dodge of existing law. They correctly argued that there was no law in the first place. When Mayer says that it took "special lawyers" to come up with "special answers," she reveals the dilemma between lying and stupidity. Either she understands that distinction and deliberately lied about it, or she doesn't understand it. Either way, it renders her opinion legally worthless.
The vision of Letterman
July 24, 2008 - 09:05 ET by KarmaThe vision of Letterman flailing and scampering across the White House lawn screamimg "CITIZENS ARREST! CITIZENS ARREST!" is more comical than his lame whining. He needs new writers.
War crimes? Like the
July 24, 2008 - 10:42 ET by ConservativeRexWar crimes? Like the spoilt children they are, liberals who write this drivel like to use "buzz" words, "catch" phrases. In the hopes that other people think of them as "informed" or "with it". It's all about gathering attention to themselves. Don't you see? Miss Mayer is convinced the world revolves around her, so you just have to listen to her. BS. I am convinced they have no idea what they are writing about or even the definition of the words they bandy about.
Letterman is a stooge who gives these people a platform to announce to the world that they do not know what they are talking about. Pitiful really. This like everything else the left throws at President Bush doesn't amount to anything. He'll still retire undefeated, and more importantly, un-impeached.
"Undefeated"? What does
July 24, 2008 - 10:47 ET by balboa"Undefeated"? What does that mean?
this is a definition only
July 24, 2008 - 10:59 ET by TruthMongerthis is a definition only a liberal would have to request:)
this is a definition only a liberal would have to request.
July 24, 2008 - 12:05 ET by larry on LItm, i just loved that response. bal deseved that one!
Can't every POTUS claim
July 24, 2008 - 16:30 ET by balboaCan't every POTUS claim undefeated status? Or is Bushies' "betterer"?
Question for balboa
July 25, 2008 - 02:38 ET by UnsaneHas Bush ever lost an election?
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
Yep, for Congress in 1978
July 25, 2008 - 09:18 ET by blogonatorLink
Clarification please
July 26, 2008 - 07:32 ET by UnsaneI don't chase links.
George W. Bush? Not his father? (Who lost a Senate race in 1970.)
Whoever casts a vote for Barack Obama is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against him is nothing more than a moral coward.
Except for
July 25, 2008 - 09:00 ET by kilrodCan't every POTUS claim undefeated status?
Except for the ones who ran for re-election and lost, and the ones who were impeached.
(GRINS) kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
bal, for you that is the
July 24, 2008 - 12:10 ET by bassndudebal, for you that is the title of a John Wyane movie...with Rock, (he he), Hudson.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
War crimes, how?
July 24, 2008 - 11:55 ET by ScrapironEven a non lawyer could defend against the charges. Letterman, who I never watch, is a comedy himself. I suppose the 'war crimes' people also want to try Slick Willie, we're still in his un-approved war. Congress approved the Iraq war by a large margin and the 'reasons' were hyped by every 90's, head up Slick's butt, democrat. The democrats like to lie about their 90's statements but the electronic world won't let them get away with it, other than with the 'uneducated left' with college degrees. Educated to the point of stupidity is the mark of the left.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Letterman
July 24, 2008 - 12:13 ET by lhbarnesMaybe Letterman will be Obama's VP running mate. Birds of a feather----------!
I used to be a Letterman fan
July 24, 2008 - 12:41 ET by d1carterI used to be a Letterman fan and watched his show, but now I never watch him. There is nothing worse than watching a comedian who begans to think he is some sort of powerful politico. I wonder what his ratings are now and how many others will not watch?
Remember the guy
July 24, 2008 - 14:25 ET by okiehawk44Remember the guy you always laughed at who defined the word "crotchety" -- that describes Letterman to me anymore. If you can, watch the show when BOR was on and focus on Letterman's mouth. He is an angry old man.
Jane Mayer Backed Off Totally
July 24, 2008 - 19:35 ET by rammingspeed...as she should have. There's no case (which sensible people know) and once the question is put directly to Mayer and her ilk, in the specific wording Letterman that did, they have to demure with remarks like "I'm not a lawyer."
The accusation against Bush et al is pure partisan politics, and the reason they aren't laughing at the White House is that this is such an egregious accusation, being supported by Democratic pols, it is beyond imagination.
The same information known today was known back in 2002 when the decision was being made to invade Iraq. There are no "dark secrets" or otherwise inculpatory information against Bush.
I'm sure Letterman is sympathetic to the war crimes screwballs, but he put a "put up or shut up" question to Mayer, whether he intended to or not, and she then shut the hell up...in a damn hurry.
Letterman is an idiot
July 25, 2008 - 09:49 ET by Ozark_SunshineAnyone who listens to the leftist/socialists from Hollyweird and NYC need their heads examined. Letterman has no credibility and even more so, he isn't even funny. Him and his set up leftist sweetie criticizing Bush is like a person with 10 IQ criticizing JFK. They both have an agenda. I think they should be arrested and charged with aiding and abetting the enemy by their tactics to embolden them. He wonders why his numbers are down, its because of the ridiculous things he says.