NBC Nightly News Runs Second Favorable Obama Interview Excerpt

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By Brent Baker | May 2, 2008 - 02:50 ET

An evening after the NBC Nightly News showcased Michelle Obama's plea to move on from focusing on Jeremiah Wright because talking about him “doesn't help kids out there,” on Thursday night the newscast again provided a platform for Barack and Michelle Obama to advance their efforts to show humility and paint media coverage as unfair. Setting up a second night of excerpts from the interview the couple conducted with Meredith Vieira for the Today show, anchor Brian Williams explained how “both went out of their way to say they understand that a lot of Americans are right now trying to figure out just who Barack Obama is.”

The excerpt began with Barack Obama maintaining “it's understandable” to “raise questions” about him because he's an African-American named Barack, “so if I don't wear a flag pin, that becomes a cause for concern,” but “if John McCain doesn't wear a flag pin, look, he's a war hero.”

That prompted Vieira to empathize: “So you're treated differently, then, you think?” And to wonder to Michelle Obama: “So you never sit there and get upset about these?” Barack Obama interjected that “she stops reading the newspapers during certain spans of time” before she quipped, during loving back-and-forth joshing: “I take the paper and I ball it up and I throw it in a corner!”

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Most of the portion of the interview Nightly News excerpted Thursday evening had not aired on Thursday's Today show.

(The MRC's Tim Graham provided this summary of the interview segment run Thursday morning:

Barack and Michelle Obama granted a joint interview to NBC's Today, but like CNN, NBC interviewer Meredith Vieira didn't ask about anything Wright said, only about their feelings of pain, or whether their timing was off. She asked Mrs. Obama: "Do you feel that the Reverend, Reverend Wright, betrayed your husband?" Vieira also asked the Obamas about attacks on their elitism or sense of patriotism: "So when you hear somebody call your husband an elitist or they called you unpatriotic at one point, when you hear them say about you, well he doesn't have fire in his belly, he has arugula in his belly, how do you respond to that?"

She walked Barack Obama back through how he wished he'd used different words in San Francisco, such as people "rely" on their religion rather than "cling" to it, and that he said people were "angry and frustrated" instead of "bitter.")

My April 30 NewsBusters item, “NBC Highlights Michelle Obama's Spin: Talking About Wright 'Doesn't Help Kids,'” recounted:

The Obama campaign has chosen NBC's Today show as the venue to try to move beyond the Jeremiah Wright controversy and a preview aired on Wednesday's Nightly News, of the session to air Thursday morning, showcased Barack and Michelle Obama making their case. While Meredith Vieira apparently did ask Barack Obama why he had not denounced Wright sooner, Nightly News viewers heard Barack Obama boast in response that he had resisted doing the “politically expedient” and Michelle Obama resorting to a plea reminiscent of the Clinton era:

We got to move forward. You know, this conversation doesn't help my kids, you know. It doesn't help kids out there who are looking for us to make decisions and choices about how we're going to better fund education.

The MRC's Brad Wilmouth corrected the closed-captioning against the video to provide this transcript of the segment on the Thursday, May 1 NBC Nightly News:

BRIAN WILLIAMS: We have more tonight from my colleague Meredith Vieira's interview with Barack and Michelle Obama. As part of the interview, which debuted today on NBC, both went out of their way to say they understand that a lot of Americans are right now trying to figure out just who Barack Obama is.

BARACK OBAMA: Let's be honest. You know, here I am, a African-American named Barack Obama, right, who's running for President. I mean, that's a leap for folks. And I think it's understandable that my political opponents would say, you know, he's different, he's odd, he's sort of unfamiliar, and what do we know about him? And to raise questions. So if I don't wear a flag pin, that becomes a cause for concern. If John McCain doesn't wear a flag pin, look, he's a war hero. And I understand why I don't think anybody is going to question about McCain's-

MEREDITH VIEIRA: So you're treated differently, then, you think?

BARACK OBAMA: Well, I don't-

MICHELLE OBAMA: I think what Barack is saying is that, you know, part of what we've been doing is we have to introduce ourselves to people. People have to know all sides of us.

VIEIRA: So you never sit there and get upset about these?

MICHELLE OBAMA: Never. I never get upset, Meredith. Not, do I get upset?

BARACK OBAMA: She gets a little upset.

MICHELLE OBAMA: No, I don't get upset. Do I look upset?

VIEIRA: I just want, I'm trying to know you as you two. Take off the political hats, as two people-

BARACK OBAMA: She, she just, she stops, she stops, she stops-

MICHELLE OBAMA: I'm cool and calm.

BARACK OBAMA: -she stops reading the newspapers during certain spans of time.

MICHELLE OBAMA: I take the paper and I ball it up and I throw it in a corner! Nah, you know, of course there are frustrations. You know, this is, it's-

BARACK OBAMA: She's, she's pretty, she, she gets protective of me. Which is, which, okay. And the-

MICHELLE OBAMA: I, I do. I, I love my husband. I don't, you know, you don't, you don't want anybody talking poorly about the people that you love.

BARACK OBAMA: Right.

MICHELLE OBAMA: But also-

BARACK OBAMA: She's handled it better than I expected, though, because I think she's actually come to believe in what we're doing.

MICHELLE OBAMA: I do, and we've traveled around the country now. And people are decent. And folks might not vote for Barack, but they do want a change. I respect the fact that folks are trying to figure it out.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center

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At this point, I really

At this point, I really think that whole "cling" issue was a Freudian slip, plain and simple.

 

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Grizzly Bear '08

My Chat With The Obamas

Favorable? Favorable? Not the way I read the transcript!

BARACK OBAMA: She's handled it better than I expected, though, because I think she's actually come to believe in what we're doing.

So, lemme get this straight. You didn't believe Michelle would handle your campaign very well? But now, for the first time, she actually believes in you? That must be a relief, huh? To know someone so devoted and loyal and loving hasn't really had any faith in you... until now. You've got a real jewel there, Barack. A real jewel.

That's the same as just now being proud of America for the first time in her life, isn't it? Yeah. I thought so, too.

MICHELLE OBAMA: I do, and we've traveled around the country now. And
people are decent. And folks might not vote for Barack, but they do
want a change. I respect the fact that folks are trying to figure it
out.

People are decent. Wow. You condescending... You are a true devotee of Jeremiah Wright's hate and racism, aren't you, Michelle? You bought it all. We see the effects of his preaching in you. Boldly. Clearly. Unmistakably.

Trying to figure it out? You mean figure you two out, don't you? We're still waiting to know what the spellbinding draw of Jeremiah Wright's sermons were to you both, why you two showed up each and every Sunday ready to bask in profound racism, hate, and anti-Americanism.

Day Two of the "Obama

Day Two of the "Obama Rehabilitation Project."

I commented in the CNN/Michelle interview thread that I thought it was so "special" that Michelle seems to think we Americans have promise, and she's decided to give us some time to grow, and to "embrace the truth." (But they're not [cough] elitists, you know [cough]

Wow! I guess we're really making headway, in her eyes. Not long ago, she was complaining that America is "downright mean." Now she says we've traveled around the country now. And people are decent.

Her choice words is telling. Gosh, Michelle, thank you; it's such a relief to know that!! See, all they had to do was travel around and people got decent! Not not generous, not warmhearted; "decent." So I guess she's willing to cut us a little slack, for a while anyway, we just need a little more "growth."

Elitism, thy name is Obama.

"The Kids"

"You know, this conversation doesn't help my kids, you know. It doesn't help kids out there who are looking for us to make decisions and choices about how we're going to better fund education."

Her children have spent their ENTIRE lives being brainwashed at the hands of Jeremiah Wright and that "church".  Now she wants the American people to be more concerned for her kids than she and her husband were?  The audacity....

If it was a Republican the

If it was a Republican the screencap with Brian Williams would read "Lashing out".

The media around Obama is

The media around Obama is amazing.
They really have no shame and no clue.
Can they possibly really believe that they are "objective"?

When the Dems won the House, after a decade of Rep rule, and Pelosi became speaker, the mammoth difference between how the media fondled Pelosi and how the eviscerated Newt Gingrich and the Reps when the Reps took control after 4 decades of Dems in the House. The media eventually drove Gingrich out of leadership and office.

Then there was Trent Lott. He says something stupid in a "sound bite" about how America might be better off today if Strom Thurmond had won the presidency (back when he was a Segregationist), and it causes so much concern about what might truly be in Lott's heart.....he loses his leadership positionin the Senate and is later gone.

But, focus on who Obama might really be doesn't help our kids and the media has to run out in full, all out defense for them man???

And the media can't figure out why more and more people have stopped listening to them...

I agree with you especially

I agree with you especially on your comments about the media. Which thinks that we the people are not capable of electing our presidents. God help us all.

Get Ready

We are SO F*CKED!

Next stop is Black Socialism for America!

I for one am booking my trip out of this Country for good!

Africa

All we really have to look at is how wonderful Marxism has worked in the African nations in which it was established. There is our future under Senator Obama.
I'm being a bit sarcastic but the failure of socialistic ideas is not a joke. Venezuela is already seeing power outages from the failure of nationalizing their utilities and it has been less than 18 months but these elitist keep telling the common people it will work if we just do as they say.

Fear as the media strategy

The myth is that journalists are skeptics, and that when politicians agree to an interview, they’re supposed to face tough questions. But we all know there are plenty of politicians who refuse to face tough questions (Hillary was example #1, until she faded, and now it’s Obama). They’ll only appear if they feel they can get their message out, in the form and style they want. They want to define themselves, and not be defined by others, which is only natural.

When candidates are hungry for attention, they’re not so choosy. Mike Huckabee had to beg to be interviewed, and therefore he had to suffer whatever stupidities the media wanted to put him through. It was a brilliant move to bring along Chuck Norris, because the local news anchor wouldn’t be so cavalier with a movie star.

We can see how Obama is going to try to play this game. Obama will refuse any interview that challenges him. He’ll refuse debates. He’ll only appear in places where the media will cast him in an adoring light.

It’s not that surprising – Bush did the same thing, and mostly got away with it. With Bush, however, it was a calculation of endurance. He only did as much media as he absolutely had to, because he knew the media would savage him at every chance. What’s different is that Obama knows that the media is overwhelmingly on his side, and yet he’s still going to avoid them.

To me, that shows fear. Bush had to be afraid of unfair questions, but Obama doesn’t. Let’s see if Obama willingly faces any hard questions. And if he won’t, you have to wonder why he wants to be president, where every question is going to be hard.

This whole interview was

This whole interview was like a game of T-ball. Meredith sets the ball on the tee and sits back smiling; then one of the Obamas steps up to the Tee and bats it into the outfield.

Meredith is just the "straight man" for the delivery of the "punch lines."

Look for that from now on

Obama won't agree to the interview unless he's certain he's going to get that treatment. Or, unless he can exert some control over the questions. You'd think that will change when the general election starts against McCain. But I'll bet Obama won't go near a tough question unless he absolutely has to. If he feels that he's trailing and he needs to catch up, he might. But if Obama feels that he's ahead, he won't go near one.

Frankly, this is what 'New Politics' is really all about. Hard questions stir up divisions. So, Obama hopes to bring peace and unity by avoiding any hard questions. He (and his surrogates) have already begun labeling every hard question as 'old politics' and 'divisive.'

Shame on us if he gets away with it.

translation

Allow me to translate Michelle Antoinette's words for those who don't speak elitism...

You know, this conversation doesn't help my kids, you know. It doesn't help kids out there who are looking for us to make decisions and choices about how we're going to better fund education.

Translation: I've got big plans to further socialize the way your children are educated and nothing will stop me.

here I am, a African-American named Barack Obama, right, who's running for President. I mean, that's a leap for folks.

Translation: most Americans are still so racist they're shocked to see me being brave enough to run for president.

 Never. I never get upset, Meredith.

Translation: I knew Americans were this racist so it doesn't surprise me.

-she stops reading the newspapers during certain spans of time.

Translation: she has no time to care what the unwashed masses think of her.

we've traveled around the country now. And people are decent.

Translation: once you actually befriend one of the peasants, you find out they're not that bad.

 

Never. I never get upset,

Never. I never get upset, Meredith.

She never gets upset??? Then who was that virago yelling that "America is downright mean!!" and folks being "jammed up" and "it's gotten worse in my lifetime! And I'm young! I'm forty-four!!" and that oh, so memorable "Give us something here!!"

Was that her, or was that Obama's "other" wife?

PS "Michelle Antoinette"....I like that!

Virago

My compliments on using 'virago' in a sentence, and correctly.

I'm still...

....looking up what it means.

Once again, Barack doesn't get it

"So if I don't wear a flag pin, that becomes a cause for concern. If John McCain doesn't wear a flag pin, look, he's a war hero."

No Barack.  Nobody would question John McCain about not wearing a flag pin because his party has always been comfortable with public displays of patriotism.  Your party is the one that sees wearing a flag pin as a sign of xenophobic nationalism.  Therefore, your refusal to wear a flag pin makes people question the reason why. 

If you're not outraged at the media, you haven't been paying attention.

Flag pin

  1. I think the whole flag pin thing is silly, but I do want to draw one distinction. Unless I read him wrong, Obama admits that when it comes to comparing patriotism, John McCain gets (and richly deserves) a free pass. Obama may love the country also, but even he admits that he'll never match McCain's credentials for patriotism.
  2. For me, the interesting thing is that Obama explicitly rejects some of the symbolism that goes along with the presidency. He doesn't put his hand over his heart during the anthem, etc. As a person who once studied for the priesthood, I know a little something about ritual. I'd urge him to drop that resistance. Those little rituals aren't for his personal amusement or expression. He's a public leader, and he represents the public. What he does in public says something about the people he represents. True, I think the flag pin is silly, but the hand over the heart is a little more serious. Veterans see that as disrespect.

The president is not only the political leader, he is also the Head of State. Reagan understood how much that matters. If he wants to be president, Obama better figure it out quick. All of those little rituals add up to a choreography of symbolism, and he'd better be careful about screwing with it.

So, if it's not necessary

So, if it's not necessary to put one's hand over the heart, why is it necessary to stand? Isn't that just another affectation? All these little customs have served us well for years. I get annoyed when someone comes along and decides that he/she doesn't want to be bound by those customs, and then expects us to judge them by "internal" standards. Why should we assume there is respect on the inside, if he can't be bothered to raise a hand to chest level on the outside?

And I am really sick of people who claim that the more you knock your country, the more patriotic you are.

 

I think that if a

I think that if a Republican did these same things, people would take note, mention they think it's not right, and then move on. It wouldn't become nearly as big an issue as it does with a Democrat.

Actually, its a bigger deal

Republicans are extremely proud of this country. We wear our pride on the outside so all can see, as this is our country. Many brave Americans have fought and died for the liberties that most liberals take for granted. We also expect our leaders to be proud of this country. That includes placing your hand over your heart during the national anthem, saying the Pledge of Allegiance, and so forth. If you can not be proud and show patriotism you do not need to run for any government office, and definitely not POUS.

 

During this time with political correctness at its zenith, I reserve the right to let you know you're an idiot.