The news media have hardly been admirers of Richard Nixon, but ABC News found new respect Tuesday for Nixon's assessments now that old tapes show how during Watergate he ridiculed furure GOP presidential candidate Fred Thompson as “dumb as hell.” On the day of Thompson's debut at a GOP residential debate, both Good Morning America and World News featured stories from Brian Ross, who in the World News version boasted that “we spent weeks going through the hours of Nixon Oval Office tapes.” But though Ross reported nothing not posted two months ago on ABCNews.com, he claimed to have discovered “a tantalizing inside look at how Thompson was regarded by the President and his inner circle.” Reminding viewers that Thompson was the Republican counsel on the Senate committee investigating Watergate, Ross reported that “when Nixon's aides told him of Thompson's appointment, the President was less than impressed.” ABC then played audio from May 14, 1973 of Nixon denigrating Thompson: “He's dumb as hell.”
Cuing up a bite of Nixon asking, “He isn't very smart, is he?”, Ross relayed: “By June 1973, Thompson was still being described in the Oval Office as not very smart, but at least beginning to play ball with the White House behind the scenes.” For expert analysis of Thompson's complicity with Nixon, Ross turned to “author” John Dean who maintained Thompson saw it as “his duty...not necessarily to find the truth, but to find out what would be best for Richard Nixon.” Of course, viewers of MSNBC's Countdown know Dean as one of Keith Olbermann's favorite guests and author of such books as Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush and Conservatives Without Conscience.
Ross did conclude by suggesting that maybe Thompson wasn't the dumb one after all: “Two months later, Nixon would resign in disgrace, and the man he called 'dumb as hell' would go on to become a United States Senator, a successful actor, and now a candidate for President.”
The Ross pieces, obviously timed to hit Thompson on his big day, hardly provided any fresh information. As Scott Whitlock pointed out in his earlier Tuesday posting about the Ross story (“ABC Gleefully Plays Watergate Tapes Attacking 'Dumb' Thompson”) on Good Morning America, which largely featured the same Nixon quotes but otherwise was quite different with alternate reporting by Ross and showcasing soundbites from those not in the World News version, Ross didn't really plow any new ground from an early August piece by ABC's Jake Tapper.
Tapper's August 7 ABCNews.com posting, “The Fred Thompson Watergate Myth: Was GOP Candidate More Friend Than Foe to Nixon?”, carried this photo caption: “In newly released Nixon tapes, the President calls then-Watergate prosecutor Fred Thompson 'dumb as hell' but 'friendly.'” The headline over the Tuesday posting by Ross on his The Blotter blog: “Nixon on Thompson: 'Dumb' but 'Friendly.'” See page 3 of the Tapper post for the “dumb as hell” quote and page 4 for the “he isn't very smart, is he?” quote.
Page 4 also included this 1973 evaluation of Thompson by then-Tennessee Senator Howard Baker, a quote that didn't make it into either Ross story: “He's terribly smart.”
The MRC's Brad Wilmouth provided this transcript of the October 9 World News story:
CHARLES GIBSON: Well, as we said a moment ago, today was Fred Thompson's first debate. Thompson came to prominence in 1973 when, just 30 years old, he became the Republican counsel to the Senate committee investigating Watergate. Which is why our Brian Ross spent some time listening to secret recordings made at the Nixon White House, as the President and his aides talked about Thompson. Brian is joining us now.
BRIAN ROSS: Charlie, we spent weeks going through the hours of Nixon Oval Office tapes stored in the National Archives. And what emerges is a tantalizing inside look at how Thompson was regarded by the President and his inner circle. Thompson's job on the Watergate committee was to lead the Republican side of the investigation. When Nixon's aides told him of Thompson's appointment, the President was less than impressed.
RICHARD NIXON AUDIO, DATED MAY 14, 1973: Oh, sh--, he's dumb as hell. Fred Thompson? Who is he? Who is he?
ROSS: Nixon told White House Counsel John Dean he was worried that Thompson's Democratic counterpart, Sam Dash, would outsmart Thompson.
NIXON AUDIO, DATED MARCH 16, 1973: Dash is too smart for that kid.
JOHN DEAN AUDIO: Sure. Runs circles around him.
ROSS: By June 1973, Thompson was still being described in the Oval Office as not very smart, but at least beginning to play ball with the White House behind the scenes, helping to defend the President.
FRED BUZHARDT AUDIO, DATED JUNE 6, 1973: Our approach is now, we've got pretty good rapport with Fred Thompson. He came through fine for us this morning.
NIXON audio: He isn't very smart, is he?
BUZHARDT: Not extremely so, but-
NIXON: But he's friendly.
BUZHARDT: But he's, but he's friendly.
NIXON: Good.
ROSS: A few days later, White House aides tell the President Thompson has secretly agreed to help undercut the credibility of John Dean, who by then had become a key witness against Nixon.
NIXON AUDIO, DATED JUNE 11, 1973: Does he realize that Dean has some problems?
BUZHARDT AUDIO: Oh, yes, sir. Quite a few. He is willing to work with us.
ROSS: Thirty-four years later, Dean, now an author, says he remembers it well.
JOHN DEAN, FORMER COUNSEL TO PRESIDENT NIXON: Fred Thompson is a direct link to the White House. He hopes the worst isn't going to come out, and that's his, as he sees his duty, is not necessarily to find the truth, but to find out what would be best for Richard Nixon.
BUZHARDT audio, dated June 11, 1973: He's willing to go, you know, pretty much the distance now. And he said he realized his responsibility was going to have to be as a Republican increasingly.
ROSS: Two months later, Nixon would resign in disgrace, and the man he called "dumb as hell" would go on to become a United States Senator, a successful actor, and now a candidate for President.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center





CHARLES GIBSON: Well, as we said a moment ago, today was Fred Thompson's first debate. Thompson came to prominence in 1973 when, just 30 years old, he became the Republican counsel to the Senate committee investigating Watergate. Which is why our Brian Ross spent some time listening to secret recordings made at the Nixon White House, as the President and his aides talked about Thompson. Brian is joining us now.
ROSS: By June 1973, Thompson was still being described in the Oval Office as not very smart, but at least beginning to play ball with the White House behind the scenes, helping to defend the President.
ROSS: A few days later, White House aides tell the President Thompson has secretly agreed to help undercut the credibility of John Dean, who by then had become a key witness against Nixon.














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Brian Ross identifies John
October 9, 2007 - 21:27 ET by TEBrian Ross identifies John Dean merely as: "now an author"? Try: Long time convicted felon and disbarred, former "lawyer". Is anyone surprised that Brian Ross would dutifully seek John Dean for comment but fail to identify John Dean by his proper titles: convicted felon and disbarred, former "lawyer"?
Wow, the libs are so anal
October 9, 2007 - 21:41 ET by rbosqueWow, the libs are so anal about Nixon! Incredible. Hey ABC, he's dead. Quit punching the poor guy and let him rest. I guess it must be easy picking on a dead guy.
To be fair, if there was
October 9, 2007 - 21:49 ET by balboaTo be fair, if there was audio out there of Jimmy Carter in 1979 saying Hillary Clinton was stupid, Fox News would find it pretty relevant, as would everyone here.
Balboa, you crafty
October 9, 2007 - 22:22 ET by NortonalecBalboa, you crafty devil-you Jimmy would NEVER say anything mean about ANYBODY! But what if Fox found out that Hillary's husband cheated on her-A LOT! Would ABC report that?
Nortonalec
They did, didn't they?
October 9, 2007 - 22:23 ET by balboaThey did, didn't they?
Yah. On the day that she
October 9, 2007 - 22:25 ET by NortonalecYah. On the day that she went to her first debate. Stop it. You waste my time.
Nortonalec
Norton, So if we've
October 9, 2007 - 22:28 ET by balboaNorton,
So if we've already gone over all that, why go over it again? Is there something new we can glean from it?
You missed the point, on
October 9, 2007 - 22:36 ET by NortonalecYou missed the point, on purpose. The whole idea of this blog is to point out bias in the media. ABC has plenty of dirt on Hillary and Bill. Where do we start? How about Edwards? He has more money than all of the people in his county, the biggest house etc. And yet, the media over looks this when he speaks about "two Americas".
The media chooses not to focus on stories they think will hurt THEIR candidates.
Nortonalec
I know that's the point of
October 9, 2007 - 22:45 ET by balboaI know that's the point of the original story. I was responding more to the posts of people here.
Weak. Nortonalec
October 9, 2007 - 22:50 ET by NortonalecWeak.
Nortonalec
Everybody move on, no news
October 9, 2007 - 22:29 ET by pocomocoEverybody move on, no news here.
1000 advisors
October 9, 2007 - 22:35 ET by pocomocoHillary says she has 1000 advisors in her campaign.
John Dean
Bill Clinton
Sandy Berger
Does anyone see a pattern here?
34 years ago, I said,
October 9, 2007 - 22:38 ET by jdhawk34 years ago, I said, "Charles Gibson is dumb as hell."
I am an "author," call me for the tape . . .
Knowing Richard Nixon
October 10, 2007 - 00:10 ET by Lame CherryOne would have to know Richard Nixon in how his mind worked as based on his formative years which were poverty stricken and his current (1970's) understanding what "Watergate was really about" to understand what Nixon was saying in the tapes above which Ross flat ass misses as usual.
Nixon was a poor, homely kid, humbled and locked into poverty, but having an intellect 10 times other people.
He was a tactical man. He won his wife by actually driving her on dates with other guys as he had a car.........he being so poor played poker in the military during WW II and only betting on sure hands that he won hundreds of dollars for his family he sent home.
Nixon for being Californian was a westerner and his response "dumb as hell" is about as common as hello in ascertaining a "pecking order" among westerners. Everyone in a westerners eyes is dumb as hell whether they are or not as "friendlies" and always shifty when an enemy like a DNC counsel.
Nixon in the above tape had not yet figured out that Watergate was a set up coup by the same powers which rig things in the American nation.......same powers who have George Bush getting rid of the dollar for the amero and sinking the United States for a CanAmMex as Vincente Fox reported today.
Nixon in the above still thought was "his people" going into Watergate looking for the files the Kennedy family had "acquired" on Nixon's funding from Bebe Robozo among others. (In those days Howard Hughs would give a million in cash to Hubert Humphrey and Richard Nixon in campaigns and it never showed on the books.)
So as a snapshot, you can read Nixon first ASKING about Thompson in western vocabulary, "Who is this guy?" and then following with the typical "dumb as hell" remark figuring that all people are not as bright as the westerner is.
As stated Nixon was a tactical man. I would remind this is the same gentleman after Watergate who sent a volume of personal notes to Ronald Reagan as he made his run for the White House against Carter........hand written notes in page after page of things Nixon saw as tactical operations for Reagan to exploit and pursue.
In knowing this, Nixon of course would look at Thompson and see like in a chess match things he would do differently and revert to the common "dumb as hell" slang again. Nixon was always certain his plan was 100% certain and the other guy was "dumb as hell".........unlike Patton, Nixon I do not believe ever is recorded in backing down and admitting anything he did was a mistake.
In this, Nixon in seeing Fred Thompson not keeping up with the Democratic counsel was not taking into account that Thompson was working for the Republicans who were attempting not to destroy the entire party over it.
Brian Ross of course does not equate any of this nor the fact that Fred Thompson saw through what Watergate was, saw Nixon for who he was and the presidency along with the vital balance of Soviet's pointing nuclear missile at America and the need to be absolutely shown fair in the American public's eyes.
Fred Thompson of course was going to aid the White House. That was his secondary job.
As for John Dean, this little plant has like Bob Woodward made a life's work of cartel paybacks out of a very American coup.........and making certain that others were blamed for it.
Dean is no more a Republican than Teddy Kennedy is.......in fact Hillary is more Republican than John Dean.
In explaining what ABC did not, I would add one thing. I have seen nothing but hit pieces on Fred Thompson............the Democrats are terrified this guy is going to be the nominee as many of the cartel and patrician Bush Republicans.
Never forget that Hillary Clinton was the brains behind Bill Clinton who was at Rose Law, with Hubbel and Foster, not being lawyers, but running the PROMIS money laundering software for the CIA global banking operations.
I do not honestly know exactly how George Bush got sold on selling out the United States as sole nation whether he knows it needs to counter the coming European Empire and Russo Chicom axis or if the cartel is blackmailing him as Ponte hinted at. I do know though these Clinton and Bush families are all CIA faction imbedded and it is no random chance that Bush's headhunters are dissing Thompson and that Brian Ross like others are hammering Fred. They do not want him in the presidency.
For that reason, I want him more as everytime one of their slugs gets into office, the cartel advances and that is not good for America.
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Nixon Days
October 10, 2007 - 04:44 ET by rushfan1467The great thing about Fmr. Pres. Nixon is that even from the grave he can make it in the media. Also remember, when/if Thompson does end up being the next President, then he can brag. Nixon ran and won!
rushfan1467
What an amazing coincidence
October 10, 2007 - 06:29 ET by VT Con ManWhat an amazing coincidence they "found" this tape the day before Fred's first presidential debate, though it was recorded 34 years ago. These investigative reporters are incredible.
I wonder whose desk this "report" sat on until the planned timing was right...
But, of course they have info that Shrillary is dumb too, which of course, they will "report" at the right time too...
they will "report" at the
October 10, 2007 - 06:37 ET by motherbeltthey will "report" at the right time too...
Which will be the second Tuesday of next week.....
Considering the left's love
October 10, 2007 - 07:29 ET by BuffNBoneConsidering the left's love of things Nixon, wouldn't his "endorsement" of Thompson be seen as a plus for the candidate?
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Brent, It's
October 10, 2007 - 07:31 ET by LeonBrent,
It's newsworthiness is irrelevant to the MSM.
Again, they want ratings. Hearing Nixon bash a presidential contender in such a frank and hilarious way = ratings.
It's simple people. The MSM's only agenda is to make money. They don't care about anything else. Like every other business in the world.
2 for the price of 1
October 10, 2007 - 08:48 ET by mattmLibs think their getting a deal here. They're dredging up Nixon again and hitting a GOP candidate with the Dumb label again.
Well, good luck with that Libs... That "evil" Nixon beat you 3 times (if you don't count the dead-people's votes in Chicago - 1960) and a "born again idiot" beat you twice.
Keep it up Libs.
How desperate are the Libs
October 10, 2007 - 11:24 ET by RJWallHow desperate are the Libs that their new poster boy in the fight against Thompson is Richard Nixon?
its democrat crisis time -
October 10, 2007 - 11:28 ET by TruthMongerits democrat crisis time - throw ANYTHING at the wall and see if it sticks baby!
A service of the new NB respect police
I know I'M panicking. I'm
October 10, 2007 - 11:37 ET by balboaI know I'M panicking. I'm all atwitter.
take deep breaths, relax,
October 10, 2007 - 11:45 ET by TruthMongertake deep breaths, relax, resistance is futile:)
A service of the new NB respect police
Brian Ross and ABC missed
October 10, 2007 - 18:55 ET by Space CowboyBrian Ross and ABC missed the real story here.
They get some of it but not the part that's most important: that Thompson acted as a mole for the Nixon White House and has lied for years about his role in the Watergate hearings. Brian Ross and Dean only hint at Thompson's role as a mole and they miss completely the lie that Thompson has promoted for years -that he was the one responsible for revealing the tape system in the Oval Office.
The truth is that Thompson was a mole for the Nixon White House and revealed confidential information about the investigations to the White House including the information that the Committee knew about the taping system (maybe that's how the White House had time to erase all those minutes of tape that mysteriously went blank). Thompson acting as a mole is probably what Buzhardt was referring to when he said that Thompson "realized his responsibility was going to have to be as a Republican increasingly".
The presence of the taping system was revealed during private interviews conducted by the Republican and Democratic staff of the Watergate Committee (forgot who it was that revealed this information). Sen. Howard Baker, Thompson's mentor and the leader of the minority Republicans on the Committee, then lobbied and won, over resistance from the Democrats, to let Thompson ask the question about the taping system in open session. This was a plum for Thompson and allowed the Republicans to appear to be as eager as the Democrats to ask hard questions of the Nixon Administration.
The real story is that Thompson violated his duty to the Congress in the investigation by feeding confidential information to Nixon and then lied about his role by trying to make it appear that he was responsible for asking the question that revealed the existence of the taping system.
This guy is a turkey - and a phony. Stick a fork in him, he's done.
Tune in next week for the laughable story behind Thompson and the red pickup truck that he used to campaign for his senate seat.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen
October 10, 2007 - 18:59 ET by RJThe preceeding fantasy has been brought to you by your friends at DailyKos. Tune in next week for another tale of the absurd....and don't forget to bring your bong....
And, as you can see, RJ
October 10, 2007 - 19:23 ET by Space CowboyAnd, as you can see, RJ isn't waiting until next week. He's already hard at work on his bong.
Check in with us when you get back from fantacy land. If you can prove you're sober I might even give you some links so you can tune into reality for a change.
Oh, and I have no connection with DailyKos - maybe been there once in it's existence.
But, I would think that someone interested in finding the truth about Thompson - or anyone for that matter - would be willing to hear verifiable fact from whatever source it comes from. But, that's probably not you, huh?
Love your nic, "Space" (or Johnbo, or whoever you are tonight)
October 10, 2007 - 19:36 ET by RJBut "Space" fits.
Um, when you land your rocketship, you might understand that DailyKos was an allegory for whatever fringe "source" you use for your fantacies (sic). :^)
RJ, it's ME, Johnbo/Space
October 11, 2007 - 03:01 ET by Space CowboyRJ, it's ME, Johnbo/Space Cowboy. He buddy, don't you remember all the blogs I've laid down here that have proven true? I'd think you'd cut me some slack on this. (It IS true, by the way.)
I just wish NewsBusters could set up a betting service on this site so I can make some money taking bets on how my predictions prove out. I could have cleaned up when I warned that the Bush Administration was in big trouble over Katrina - long before all the yahoos on this site knew it. Or, how about my prediction that the Republicans would dump Tom DeLay - long before they did. I was the guy that mentioned "the bridge to nowhere" long before anyone here had heard of it. And, before my most recent ban from the site, I was blogging about how the economy wasn't as rosy as everyone here was gushing about - just before the markets swooned in August. But, hey, hit me back if you want a link to some of those "fringe" sources I use.
I just can't get no respect. What's up with that?
Link first, mouth off later.
October 10, 2007 - 22:44 ET by mastersofdeceitIt's usually a courtesy to provide a link first, especially when going over 34 year old minutiae nobody cares about and giving us " the truth is that Thompson was a mole for the Nixon White House ". A link might have been helpful, not to me I could care less.
o-k now back to my bong. : )
Hey mod... Long time no
October 10, 2007 - 22:51 ET by bigtimerHey mod...
Long time no see...
I was thinking of you the other night when I was talking about some of us oldies but goodies on here for two years or more and realized later that I forgot to mention you...
Anyway...Happy 2 yr. NB birthday friend.
I have got to get out of here NOW...
Hope to catch ya later....
As an aside I can't believe Spacey/Johnbo is here tonight..it has been ages and ages since I SAW HIM.
LOL...
Hey big, Yeah haven't
October 10, 2007 - 22:55 ET by mastersofdeceitHey big,
Yeah haven't seen you much around here. Hope all is ok. I checked in a little earlier than usual tonight.
Catch ya around.