FNC's Brit Hume on Monday night picked up on a column by the San Francisco Chronicle's Debra Saunders which discredited the media spin on an AP/Ipsos poll that found liberals read one more book a year than conservatives, a finding Pat Schroeder, President of the Association of American Publishers claimed illustrated how conservatives can't think beyond slogans. The AP and CNN's Jack Cafferty both jumped on Schroeder's slam. Hume noted that Saunders “says Ipsos told her the one book difference between liberals and conservatives is within the poll's margin of error and not statistically significant. The company also said that since the poll did not ask respondents if they read newspapers or magazines, it does not, therefore, say anything about their general level of knowledge or information.”
Last Tuesday, the AP distributed a story (Breitbart version, Yahoo posting) with Schroeder's comments, “Book Chief: Conservatives Want Slogans.” Al Fram's dispatch began:
Liberals read more books than conservatives. The head of the book publishing industry's trade group says she knows why -- and there's little flattering about conservative readers in her explanation."The Karl Roves of the world have built a generation that just wants a couple slogans: 'No, don't raise my taxes, no new taxes,'" Pat Schroeder, president of the American Association of Publishers, said in a recent interview. "It's pretty hard to write a book saying, 'No new taxes, no new taxes, no new taxes' on every page."
Schroeder, who as a Colorado Democrat was once one of Congress' most liberal House members, was responding to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll that found people who consider themselves liberals are more prodigious book readers than conservatives....
Matthew Sheffield's take on the AP poll and the lack of data released for it.
CNN's Jack Cafferty couldn't resist highlighting how the poll found liberals read more books than conservatives, though only by one book -- nine to eight books with moderates reading only five in the past year. His "Cafferty File" question, during the 4pm EDT hour of the August 22 Situation Room, presumed the relevance of the poll finding: "Liberals read more books than conservatives. Why?" Cafferty had outlined Schroeder's spin:
“The head of a book publishing industry trade group offers this explanation. Pat Schroeder says, 'The Karl Roves of the world have built a generation that just wants a few slogans. Things like no new taxes.' No surprise here. Pat Schroeder was a formerly liberal member -- a former member of Congress who is a liberal. She says liberals can't say anything is less than a whole paragraph. Mary Matalin, who is a Republican strategist, says that conservatives don't read less. They just get their information from different places, such as magazines or the Internet.”
Matthew Balan's NB posting on Cafferty's segment.
Hume's “Grapevine” item in full on the August 27 Special Report with Brit Hume:
Last week we told you about a poll by the Associated Press and Ipsos Research Company that indicated liberals read slightly more books than conservatives each year. Association of American Publishers President Pat Schroeder -- a former liberal Congresswoman from Colorado -- said that what she called "The Karl Roves of the world" had built a generation of conservatives who wanted only simple slogans such as "no new taxes." But columnist Debra Saunders of Creators.com says Ipsos told her the one book difference between liberals and conservatives is within the poll's margin of error and not statistically significant. The company also said that since the poll did not ask respondents if they read newspapers or magazines, it does not, therefore, say anything about their general level of knowledge or information.
An excerpt from the August 26 San Francisco Chronicle column by Debra Saunders, “Bookless versus clueless,” which the DrudgeReport.com had showcased on Sunday:
WHEN a new Associated Press-Ipsos poll found, as reported by the Associated Press, that "liberals read more books than conservatives," the president of the American Association of Publishers promptly shoved her foot in her mouth.
Pat Schroeder, the former Democratic congresswoman from Colorado, proclaimed, "The Karl Roves of the world have built a generation that just wants a couple of slogans: 'No, don't raise my taxes, no new taxes.' It's pretty hard to write a book saying, 'No new taxes, no new taxes, no new taxes,' on every page."
She also told AP that liberals "can't say anything in less than paragraphs. We really want the whole picture, want to peel the onion."
Maybe you shouldn't pay any attention to me. According to Schroeder, as a conservative, I've got a bumper sticker for brains. Silly me, I looked into the poll -- which liberals have hailed as proof of their intellectual superiority -- and there's not a lot there in "the whole picture." The poll found that among people polled who read at least one book in the last year, liberals read nine books and conservatives read eight.
When I called Michael Gross, associate vice president of Ipsos public affairs, to find out more about the Ipsos poll, he told me the one-book difference "is within the margin of error, it's not a statistically significant difference."
The poll also found that moderates who said they read at least one book a year, on average, read five books a year. By Schroeder's lights, moderates must be really simple-minded sloganeers.
As a conservative, I am not proud to read that 34 percent of conservatives -- as opposed to 22 percent of liberals and moderates -- said they had read a book within the last year.
Then again, because the poll did not ask people if they read newspapers or magazines, Gross noted, "I don't think it says anything about people's general level of information."
Then there's the quality issue. A person could read nine romance novels in a year and qualify as Aristotelian by Schroeder's logic....
While she berated conservatives for buying into slogans, she flaunted her prejudices. Her idea of thinking in paragraphs: Not letting facts get in the way.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center





“The head of a book publishing industry trade group offers this explanation. Pat Schroeder says, 'The Karl Roves of the world have built a generation that just wants a few slogans. Things like no new taxes.' No surprise here. Pat Schroeder was a formerly liberal member -- a former member of Congress who is a liberal. She says liberals can't say anything is less than a whole paragraph. Mary Matalin, who is a Republican strategist, says that conservatives don't read less. They just get their information from different places, such as magazines or the Internet.”
WHEN a new Associated Press-Ipsos poll found, as reported by the Associated Press, that "liberals read more books than conservatives," the president of the American Association of Publishers promptly shoved her foot in her mouth.















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When this story
August 27, 2007 - 20:26 ET by SMGalbraithWhen this story first broke, I was reminded of that great line by Ronald Reagan.
"Liberals do indeed know more than conservatives. The only problem is that what they know simply isn't true."
SMG
Extra book
August 27, 2007 - 20:42 ET by well99It must of been that 1 extra book.Course the book was Never Tell the Truth When a Lie Will Do.The book was by Leftwing Hypocrisy with a shout out to Howard Dean.
Does politics have to be
August 27, 2007 - 20:41 ET by gueinDoes politics have to be injected into everything? Even the book club? Can liberals approach any subject without trying to show how much smarter they are than anyone else? All rhetorical questions, of course. Liberals need intellectual affirmation in the same way the we all need air.
I agree with the above
August 27, 2007 - 20:54 ET by mostlymoderateI agree with the above statement. Every liberal I have ever known needed affirmation of his/her intelligence. It's a game they play in American universities; also why most liberals never leave academia. Only amongst each other do liberals *feed* on each others supposed "intellect".
Exactly right...coming from
August 27, 2007 - 21:07 ET by Del DolemonteExactly right...coming from a family infested with university professors, I have more horror stories than anyone could imagine.
My closest uncle, who was an education prof for decades, has an entire room (called "the library") at his summer place. If he were to sit down alone and try to read every single book that's there, it would take him 23 years of 24/7 work (yes, we actually did the calculations).
That's great, Del
August 27, 2007 - 21:10 ET by BlondeHow many books has this lib uncle actually read, tho?
And how many are for show?
I suspect therein lies the diff. I've actually read all of the books in my house....well, for the exception of Anne Coulter's last one. I just couldn't get into it. It still lies unread, under the nightstand, with a bookmark on page 5.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Hey Blonde, These are
August 27, 2007 - 21:14 ET by USA4freedomHey Blonde,
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Back at you USA,
August 27, 2007 - 21:18 ET by BlondeI just had the big "light bulb" moment.
The reason I no longer have a $50 a week habit at the bookstore is because I hang out here incessantly.
Think I need to renew my prescription for my reading glasses, put some new freon in the A.C., and turn the silly computer off, yes?
I'd miss you all....and I don't think I'll learn as many new words by reading as I do here (oh...this site is so much fun!).
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Yep, typing is saving space
August 27, 2007 - 21:25 ET by USA4freedomYep, typing is saving space on the book shelf..
good night all.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Good Night to you, USA.
August 27, 2007 - 21:29 ET by BlondeDavid Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Well, you know who those
August 27, 2007 - 21:27 ET by motherbeltWell, you know who those "conservatives" are that don't read as much as liberals....they are "poor, uneducated, and easy to command." That's just what Bush and Rove want.
I think this so called new
August 27, 2007 - 20:57 ET by charlietexasI think this so called new poll of liberal book readers goes hand in
hand with the ABC poll they do every year. It asks Republicans and
democrats who spends more quility time making love with their
spouses...of course its the REPUBLICANS. I guess the liberals are
just board or boaring in bed. It makes sence to me.
Republicans make better lovers!! Maybe the liberals should be reading
books on "How to be better in bed."
Keep reading liberals.....hahahahhahaah
Charlies happy wife........
eyE dont no wat thie r
August 27, 2007 - 21:16 ET by NortonaleceyE dont no wat thie r tawlking Bout?
nortonAlec
How do they come up with
August 27, 2007 - 21:24 ET by USA4freedomHow do they come up with these numbers? I’m a conservative
but I just don’t read conservative books. I read all sorts of things, travel,
sailing, wood working, fishing. So how do they know that there is a
conservative reading these books??
It’s all bs.
The standard “we are the knuckle dragging cave men”
The whole idea that we are the non readers. Have you ever
listen to Sean Hannety when he interviews people on the street. When he talks
to Libs. they for the most part cant even name the branches of government.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
The standard “we are the
August 27, 2007 - 21:30 ET by motherbeltThe standard “we are the knuckle dragging cave men”
Hey, USA...Great minds.....
See my comment above re: "poor, uneducated and easy to command." LOL
mb
August 27, 2007 - 21:35 ET by BlondeIf they are the "knuckle dragging cave men"....what does that make us?
Seriously....
Don't you just love the stereotypes?
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Lets see , there is the
August 28, 2007 - 03:46 ET by Dan The Man 2Lets see , there is the Queen, the Lords and the House of Commons. How did I do? Ohh and the PM is elected by the House of Lords.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Book reading
August 27, 2007 - 21:18 ET by RickyfixI don't know about anybody else, but I read two books a week. One is serious reading, and another for escapist junk. And, I am a little to the right of Attala the Hun.
Hume and Saunders,
August 27, 2007 - 21:41 ET by wiwfHume and Saunders, zing!
Love it! :D
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morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested,
exiled, or hanged." -Abraham Lincoln
Are they counting Playgirl
August 27, 2007 - 22:25 ET by rbosqueAre they counting Playgirl mags the gays read? Or some comic books the DNC reads?
Dont dis my comics
August 28, 2007 - 03:48 ET by Dan The Man 2Dont dis my comics now!!!!
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Oh ...if anyone thought for
August 27, 2007 - 22:28 ET by bigtimerOh ...if anyone thought for one serious second that lib's read more books than conservatives...
I have a bridge for sale.
(Not counting comic books that is for the left)
Btw...I love Saunder's have for years and years, must be lonely in San Fran at times.
Hey! I'm a big reader! I'll
August 27, 2007 - 22:32 ET by balboaHey! I'm a big reader! I'll go toe-to-toe with ya BT. :-)
I was talking about as a
August 27, 2007 - 22:35 ET by bigtimerI was talking about as a whole boa...you know the majority.
I was excluding you of course....
LOL!
Considering some of the
August 27, 2007 - 22:38 ET by ckc1227Considering some of the nonsense liberals believe, I recommend they read fewer books.
ckc... Couldn't agree
August 27, 2007 - 22:42 ET by bigtimerckc...
Couldn't agree more...
I just think you were being very polite saying the word 'nonsense'...when it came to the leftists and what they read.
LOL...
"I just think you were
August 27, 2007 - 22:58 ET by ckc1227"I just think you were being very polite saying the word 'nonsense'...when it came to the leftists and what they read."
You know me, BT. I'm nothing if not polite.....well, some of the time anway. :)
ckc... chuckle
August 27, 2007 - 23:00 ET by bigtimerckc...
chuckle chuckle....
What about the Bible
August 27, 2007 - 23:17 ET by Lame CherryI never saw in this poll nor in the CNN slam any reference to the Bible and Catholic prayer books as "books" read continually by Conservatives.
This will probably come out incorrectly, but there are books and then there are books. Liberals tend to read rubbish in writing. People who know liberals also know they are masters of lying about reading books too. For example Charlie Rose "might read a book" that Joe Biden has written, but he reads passages in it marked out in cases by staff.
Frankly, the real question on books is what kind of books one reads from cover to cover. Of course, that kind of question will never be in a poll.
I honestly refuse to read modern books, especially by those horrid historians which abound now. The most recent published book I read was Ted Nugent's and only because someone sent it to me for Christmas.........I instead prefer actual people who lived actual events or the one historian worth reading in Francis Parkman (worth reading as modern historians hate him). In this way you find all sorts of things out hidden in history.........for all the blow hards talking about Theodore Roosevelt in both parties, you can lay odds they have never read none of his many works. Roosevelt does not write the best, but he will teach you things about government, history and actual human events that no one can now.
I want to share this, because liberals would never read a Roosevelt book and they would scream racism for facts Roosevelt lays out in African Game Trails. Teddy stated that the African porters he encountered which are the basis of American slaves were in 1910 a group of people who would lay under bushes and shiver as they were too inept to build a fire or a shelter for the night. He made the point in how American blacks were so much better educated, advanced and living good lives where this group of Africans actually had an existence of choice between being eaten by a crocodile or lion.
He addressed the entire need for advancement of African states by colonial powers for several generations to join the world powers. His prophecy came true in the colonials pulled out too soon and communists like Mandela and Mugabe took power and ruined what were becoming prosperous African states.
That all tells upon Africa today in the disaster which is looming there in Africans were teenagers handed power and they ruined their nations. Now Bono will beg for millions and Bill Clinton will drop a few grande in shopping sprees acting like he is helping Africans, but no one wants to touch the root cause of African problems and the facts that American blacks were doing very well until liberal welfare destroyed their family structure.
I realize this is off subject, but it is on the subject that unless one reads quality books written by very God given Wisdom authors who understand human events one is wasting their time.
I remember a friend in Ohio who was named after Jackie Kennedy and was reading a book by Teddy Kennedy.......at the time I was reading something by Roosevelt like The Wilderness Hunter and I just shook my head and thought, "Well what on earth can Teddy Kennedy teach you? How to be a drunk and a womanizer?"
In that it is the quality of the book like Ronald Reagan's book of letters. He taught so much in just writing........and if you really want to know the genesis of Hillarycare and social medicine it is in that book and Reagan warns from 1968 what was building, what was being manipulated and the dangers it imposed on the United States.
I will put it plainly, "You can not write a book of Wisdom if you do not have a relationship with God Who is the fount of all Wisdom". That is why there are books worth reading and simply books liberals read through.
I miss that old man Ronald Reagan.
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I Second that Lame.
August 27, 2007 - 23:19 ET by bigtimerI Second that Lame.
Jobs
August 28, 2007 - 07:15 ET by kd5463Maybe liberals read more books because more of them don't have jobs and therefore have more time to read.
they didnt poll me thats for sure
August 28, 2007 - 08:42 ET by smitty031Im a conservative and Ive read maybe 20 books this year...not to mention studying textbooks from time to time.
Maybe Im a closet liberal? YIKES!!!
BTW - Do Michael Crichton books count?