Michael Moore: ‘Good Thing for Dems’ That Conservative Dems ‘Thrown Out of Office’
Appearing as a guest on Friday’s Larry King Live on CNN, liberal filmmaker Michael Moore claimed that a "silver lining" for the Democratic Party in their election losses is that conservative Democrats were "thrown out of office last week," as he complained that liberal Democrats had to "placate these conservative Democrats and they watered down these bills." Missing the reality that so many centrist Democrats lost because they represented conservative-leaning congressional districts where their popularity was dragged down by their liberal leadership, Moore bragged that only three members of the Progressive Caucus in the House lost seats.
Later in the show, he advised President Obama to go left: "I hope that, the lesson to learn is to see the more liberal you were if you were a member of Congress in last week’s election, the more likely it was that you got reelected. The conservative Democrats, the majority of them were booted out. The liberals won. He should take this country in the progressive direction that he was elected to take it in."
A few minutes later, he cited Democratic Rep. Marcy Kaptur of Toledo, Ohio, as evidence of his theory that being liberal makes a Congressman more likely to be reelected as he ignored the fact that she represents a district so heavily Democratic that it voted 58 percent for John Kerry in 2004. Moore: "She’s a good example of what I was just saying. She’s the congresswoman from Toledo, Ohio, a state that just elected a Republican governor, a Republican senator, and yet, she’s one of the most liberal members of Congress from a hard-hit place, Toledo, Ohio, and yet, she won by an overwhelming margin again in Toledo."
Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of the Friday, November 12, Larry King Live on CNN:
MICHAEL MOORE: I also want to point out, too, I think that this is, there’s a silver lining for the Democrats in this election. The Blue Dog Democrats, the conservative Democrats, lost by a huge margin. The majority of them, in fact, were thrown out of office last week. That’s a good thing for the Democrats. That’s good because so much of what the Democratic caucus has had to do is to sort of placate these conservative Democrats and they watered down these bills so they’ll be happy. Well, they’re gone now. The Progressive Caucus - there’s about 80 members in the Progressive Caucus in Congress - only three of them lost election, lost the election last week. So it’s going to be actually a more liberal Democratic group, more progressive group-
LARRY KING: That’s smaller.
MOORE: Smaller, but they’ll be able to cohesively - well, look what the Republicans were able to do with the small minority that they had.
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9:30 p.m.
MOORE: Here’s the mistake that he shouldn’t make as far as what Clinton did was, Clinton thought what I’ve got do is I’ve got to move more to the right and I’ve got to be more pro-business. And that’s when Clinton started the deregulation of Wall Street and the banks. That’s when he, all those, and his Secretary of the Treasury, Mr. Larry Summers, you know, started to put into place what eventually became once Bush got into office, then he took what Clinton started, put steroids into it, and then we ended up with the crash of ‘08. So, no, that’s, we hope that Obama, that’s not the lesson that he’s learned from this. I hope that, the lesson to learn is to see the more liberal you were if you were a member of Congress in last week’s election, the more likely it was that you got reelected. The conservative Democrats, the majority of them were booted out. The liberals won. He should take this country in the progressive direction that he was elected to take it in.
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9:36 p.m.
[DISCUSSING DEMOCRATIC REP. MARCY KAPTUR (D-OH)]
MOORE: She’s great. And actually, she’s a good example of what I was just saying. She’s the congresswoman from Toledo, Ohio, a state that just elected a Republican governor, a Republican senator, and yet, she’s one of the most liberal members of Congress from a hard-hit place, Toledo, Ohio, and yet, she won by an overwhelming margin again in Toledo.
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I agree with Michael Moore? (THUD)
Submitted by Texndoc on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 9:55am.
"The Blue Dog Democrats, the conservative Democrats, lost by a huge margin. The majority of them, in fact, were thrown out of office last week. That’s a good thing for the Democrats. ...... So it’s going to be a more liberal Democratic group-"
The Blue Dogs who DIDN'T get "thrown out" have a choice to make I guess. Either turn socialist or drop the charade and switch parties.
Funny, I read the senator from the new red-state Virginia (Webb) is so petrified of two years from now that he's sending signals he may switch parties. We don't want you, ObamaCare voter!
Moore is right: it's a good
Submitted by Asok on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 10:40am.
Moore is right: it's a good thing the Rats have been transformed into monolithically hard-core Marxists. They now are overtly what they are and have been all along, and no longer include a smattering of pseudo-conservatives to serve as cover for pretensions of reasonableness.
Hopefully, this new found purity amongst the U.S. National Socialist Democrats will be seen more clearly by any voters left who may have been a bit confused about the goodness of the USNSD party.
This new found purity will serve to drive away reasonable people as candidates, leaving the USNSD only with overt Marxists in their ranks. The choices for the voters should now become crystal clear: National Socialism or Constitutional Capitalism. Take your pick, folks! No more ambiguous choices anymore!
Michael Moore and the Spinners
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 11:15am.
Sounds like a good name for a band, doesn't it?
They can all just screw themselves right into the ground.
Instead of taking the election as a rebuke to Democrats, the Progressives think it was a signal that some Democrats are too centrist, And since Progressives won, Obama should unilaterally push their radical agena through, by using Executive Orders.
How about Michael Moron and
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 3:21pm.
How about Michael Moron and the Lardasses??? They don't need to screw themselves into the ground.......all they have to do is just sit there and melt like putrified bacon grease.............
He's right for the reasons he believes, but he's wrong for thinking that it happened because the hard left progressocrats represent anybody beyond their own whacked out elitist, socialistic view of anti-America.
I'm sick of this fat punk shooting off his doughy, jowely, ugly mouth..........with his psuedo soft-spoken, I'm really a nice guy under this fat arrogant disguise voice!!! I'd like to give him just ONE swift backhand across his dumb looking fat face.......................
wow. how nice
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 11:43am.
Oh look, Democrats are getting praise from a Canadian socialist on what to do with Congress.
Not that I have anything against Canadians in general, but this one.....ugh.
-Jon
Listening to this
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 12:03pm.
blithering blob of fat is like letting the guy who's the least drunk in the group drive everyone home. Makes no sense, but then, it's what is to be expected of liberals.
Yeah, when the electorate hands you your head, because they're sick of what you've done, and are doing, double down and do more of it.
Do As I Say...
Submitted by Bill W. on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 12:10pm.
I love it when rich leftists start extolling the virtues of socialsim. That's right, raise OUR taxes. You've got plenty, right? Oh, what's that? You just want OTHER people to pay more. I see. Is that your version of equality?
Go back to Flint and follow Michelle's advice about changing OUR diets.
Inane political analysis
Submitted by Galvanic on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 12:51pm.
What Moore's math-deficient analysis of the Blue Dog Democrats fails to note is that without the Blue Dogs, the Democrats would not have a majority to pass anything, let alone a watered-down bill.
I am perfectly happy with Moore's preference: a leftwing Democratic Party that's a permanent minority in the Congress, barking at passing cars.
I'd like to be driving one of
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 3:23pm.
I'd like to be driving one of those cars!!!........................................road kill!!!!!
Michael Moore's insane
Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 12:54pm.
Michael Moore's insane bragging about the loss of conservative democraps and the retention of progressives, would be like the White Star lines bragging that they had 100 lifeboats that made it off the Titanic to safety.
There was no such thing as
Submitted by humanzee on Sat, 11/13/2010 - 10:51pm.
There was no such thing as conservative Democrats. They were the "centrist facade" democrats.
The Democrats just got a huge chunk of "centrist" democrats kicked out of office for being forced to go far left of center on Obamacare.
Most, if not all, "moderate" Democrats are gone. The Democrats basically burned a lot of bridges to get Obamacare passed. They've lost the "moderate" voting bloc for the foreseeable future in every place that matters.
They don't have a marketing problem as Obama says. They got a product line problem, people don't want what they sell. Unless they change their product, they're toast.
They just keep going further
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 11/14/2010 - 2:04am.
They just keep going further and furtehr to the left.
It's funny how only 2 years ago they said the GOP was in danger of becoming a regional party. Well, looks like the Democrats are doing everything in their power to become a regional party. Keep up the good work Michael!
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