On ABC’s World News Saturday, and the same day’s CBS Evening News, correspondents suggested that conservative positions on social issues were responsible for the Republican party’s recent electoral misfortunes, as the two programs filed stories about an appearance in Arlington by Jeb Bush, Eric Cantor and Mitt Romney as part of an effort to rebuild the party’s appeal. ABC cited a recent ABC News / Washington Post poll showing only 21 percent of Americans identify themselves as Republicans, while CBS cited a Pew Research poll finding the number had dropped from 30 percent in 2004 to 23 percent currently.
After a soundbite of Jeb Bush explaining that Republicans needed to spend more time "listening," "learning," and "upgrading our message," ABC’s Rachel Martin contended that "That means moving hot-button social issues like abortion and gay marriage to the side, and shifting the focus to health care, education and the economy."
And, ignoring the fact that a substantial number of moderate House Democrats have taken conservative positions on issues like guns and abortion to win in their own conservative leaning districts, CBS’s Kimberly Dozier more directly charged that conservative positions on such issues by Republicans had hurt the party: "The trio notably avoided controversial touch stones like gun rights or abortion, which are blamed for driving away moderates and independents." Notably, 65 House Democrats recently sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder stating their opposition to a new assault weapons ban.
But in looking at the results of the ABC poll, one finds that, while 51 percent of Americans support stricter gun laws, with 48 percent opposed; when asked whether they believed stricter enforcement of current laws or the passage of new laws would be more effective in reducing crime, 61 percent answered that "enforcing existing laws" would be more effective.
And while the ABC poll found that 35 percent of Americans choose to identify themselves as Democrats with only 21 percent identifying as Republicans; 35 percent identify as conservative while only 23 percent identify as liberal.
Back to ABC’s report, after noting that "There was unified opposition to President Obama's stimulus plan" from Republicans, Martin reminded viewers about Rush Limbaugh’s desire for President Obama to fail, without explaining Limbaugh’s belief that the country would be harmed if Obama is successful in passing his agenda:
RACHEL MARTIN: But recently, the GOP has been saying a lot of no. There was unified opposition to President Obama's stimulus plan.
MITCH MCCONNELL, SENATE MINORITY LEADER: What characterizes the first 100 days is-
UNIDENTIFIED MAN #2: -taxes too much-
UNIDENTIFIED MAN #3: -spends too much-
JOHN BOEHNER, HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER: -and it borrows too much from our kids and grandkids.
MARTIN: And a conservative conference cheered Rush Limbaugh when he said-
RUSH LIMBAUGH: I want Barack Obama to fail.
Below is a complete transcript of the relevant story from the May 2 World News Saturday on ABC, followed by that May 2 CBS Evening News:
#From the May 2 World News Saturday:
DAVID MUIR: We turn now to Washington this evening, where top Republicans have launched an urgent effort to revitalize their beleaguered party. The party was dealt a new blow this week when Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania jumped parties. And in the latest ABC News poll, just 21 percent of Americans say they identify themselves as Republicans. That’s the fewest in any ABC News poll in 25 years. Here’s Rachel Martin.
RACHEL MARTIN: It was billed as a townhall meeting with big GOP names, but it felt more like a therapy session for conservatives in crisis.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN #1 IN AUDIENCE: As Republicans, we’ve got to give Americans something to say yes to. We should stand strong, stay faithful to what we firmly believe, and go forward, but have a message that includes all Americans.
MITT ROMNEY: All I can say to that is amen.
MARTIN: But recently, the GOP has been saying a lot of no. There was unified opposition to President Obama’s stimulus plan.
MITCH MCCONNELL, SENATE MINORITY LEADER: What characterizes the first 100 days is-
UNIDENTIFIED MAN #2: -taxes too much-
UNIDENTIFIED MAN #3: -spends too much-
JOHN BOEHNER, HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER: -and it borrows too much from our kids and grandkids.
MARTIN: And a conservative conference cheered Rush Limbaugh when he said-
RUSH LIMBAUGH: I want Barack Obama to fail.
FORMER GOVERNOR JEB BUSH (R-FL): It’s time for us to listen first, to learn a little bit, to upgrade our message a little bit.
MARTIN: That means moving hot-button social issues like abortion and gay marriage to the side, and shifting the focus to health care, education and the economy.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN #4: The Republican party needs to go back to its principles of personal responsibility, fiscal responsibility.
MARTIN: For the most part, the people gathered here today were members of the GOP party faithful. But the real question is: Will this new message resonate far beyond the Republican party? A party that lost one of its last remaining moderate Senators this week.
SENATOR ARLEN SPECTER (D-PA): I have found myself increasingly at odds with the Republican philosophy and more in line with the philosophy of the Democratic party.
RAMESH PONNURU, NATIONAL REVIEW: That conservative core is absolutely necessary for Republican success, but it’s not enough. It’s not sufficient. And Republicans have to find a way to reach beyond it while keeping it.
MARTIN: For now, Republicans say they have to listen and learn, so that once again they can lead. Rachel Martin, ABC News, Arlington, Virginia.
#From the May 2 CBS Evening News:
JEFF GLOR: In Virginia today, Republicans are regrouping. Following two serious setbacks in the last two national elections, Kimberly Dozier tells us prominent members of the GOP are meeting to retool their message and plot their comeback.
KIMBERLY DOZIER: It’s no accident this looks like a campaign stop. Leading Republicans came here to figure out why they lost the last election, and to try and make sure they don’t lose the next one. It was standing room only at Arlington’s Pie-Tanza’s Pizza on a Saturday morning, but GOP membership is in freefall. A Pew Research Center survey found that fewer than a quarter of those polled call themselves Republicans. That’s down from 30 percent in 2004. Just this past week, the party lost longtime Senator Arlen Specter, and a congressional seat in New York. This was a message: We hear you.
FORMER GOVERNOR JEB BUSH: (R-FL): You can’t beat something with nothing, and the other side has something. I don’t like it, but they have it, and we have to be respectful and mindful of that.
DOZIER: And they.have to come up with alternatives to shape the GOP’s current label as the "party of no" for voting against Democratic policies.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN IN AUDIENCE: I just firmly believe that, as Republicans, we’ve got to give Americans something to say yes to. Let’s do it. Let’s make it happen. That’s how we get, that’s how we take this country back.
MITT ROMNEY: All I can say to that is amen.
DOZIER: This new movement is the brainchild of Congressman Eric Cantor, who admits the party has made mistakes in the past.
ERIC CANTOR, HOUSE MINORITY WHIP: No question we could have done a lot better. There’s no question we took our licks, and rightfully so in many instances.
DOZIER: He says this is about coming up with new ideas on the economy, energy, health care, and national security. The trio notably avoided controversial touch stones like gun rights or abortion, which are blamed for driving away moderates and independents. These townhall meetings are about bringing them back. It’s how the GOP turned its fortunes around when it lost to President Clinton in 1992 and came up with the blueprint for what became Newt Gingrich’s Contract with America.
FRANK LUNTZ, REPUBLICAN POLLSTER: Within two years, they recaptured the House and the Senate. Why? Because they engaged in this same kind of conversation.
DOZIER: Their message is: They get it. They lost because the people weren’t getting what they wanted. Now it’s up to the GOP to figure out what that is.
—Brad Wilmouth is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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I blame ABC, CBS, NBC, and
May 3, 2009 - 23:39 ET by RogerCfromSDI blame ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN for working to destroy our country.
These biatches need to take a good hard look in the mirror before spouting off any more anti-Conservative crap. It's all bullshit and they are just carping on it in order to hide the news that Pelosi is shielding Democrat criminals from investigation.
A nation cannot be free without a free, unbiased media. We are not free.
The News Media in general
May 4, 2009 - 10:04 ET by grumpyoldbWhat the media, (and most liberals) do and don't understand about the freedom of this country.
1. (The understand) You have the freedom to become anything you want (the part they don't understand, is you have to be willing to work for it).
2. (they understand) You have the freedom to succeed (they don't understand that you have to be willing to work for it)
3.(they don't understand) That you have the freedom to FAIL, if you don't want to work for it....
A company I used to owh had a strip of grass next to the building that was 3 feet wide, and 40 feet long. Neither my partner or I wanted to mess with mowing it, so, whenever I saw someone begging (you have seen the signs "will work for food", "Lost Job, Please Help", etc). I would give them my business card and tell them about the strip of grass, and then tell them that I would pay them $50.00 (bear in mind this was in the early 1980's) to mow that strip of grass (I would provide the mower), AND lunch at a fast food joint just down the street from our office. I would also tell them that if they mowed it EVERY DAY I's pay them the same EVERY DAY... (bear in mind it took a kid int he neighborhood 10 minutes and he charged $10.00 to do the job. Unfortunately we were told that violated child labor laws, so we couldn't let him do it)..
In 3 years, the total number of people that came out to mow this strip of grass....... ZERO, NADA, ZILCH, NOBODY!
If someone is willing to put out even a minimal effort at work to better their position, I will go out of my way to help them. If all they want is a handout, they can starve.
I have given "homeless" people who have told me that they haven't eaten in 3 days my lunch (from a very nice deli), and had them throw it on the ground and stomp on it...
Social conservatism is not a problem in this country. It's the lask of social conservatism, paired with an ever increasing number of people that think the world owes them, that are the problem.
Ill do it for 10 bucks and
May 4, 2009 - 10:15 ET by Dan The Man 2Ill do it for 10 bucks and lunch, dang good money.
"ABC, CBS Blame
May 3, 2009 - 23:48 ET by alamojb"ABC, CBS Blame Conservative Social Positions for GOP Misfortunes."
Charles Johnson over at Little Green Footballs has been saying similiar garbage. And those who are conservative are "far right". Yet look at what happened in liberal California when the Gay Marriage thing was put to a vote.
Allahpundit and Charles Johnson are deranged
May 4, 2009 - 03:00 ET by Daniel BakerThey worship internet opinion
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Liberal judges are the high priests of redefined marriage. Good men want freedom, Evil men want license
I second that
May 4, 2009 - 07:42 ET by freecitizenI liked LGF when they were focused on Islamic Terrorism but I stopped going there when it seemed every other post was about crationism or white supremacists as being the two greatest threats to our nation.
And I become less fond of HotAir with every Meghan McCain post from Allahpundit. He's either obsessed with her or only concerned with driving up the comments. Either way makes it a less useful blog to me.
Liberal: remove all that's Right, and this is what's Left.
Re LGF
May 4, 2009 - 08:43 ET by slickwillie2001Agree on both points. I had been a regular visitor to LGF for about ten years, but gave it up recently. Mostly he reports now on his own feud with another couple of bloggers, which I could care less about. Never liked Hotair, don't know why; it's as much format as anything.
The best 'blogs' I find are the magazine writer's blogs, like CornerNRO, and their equivalents at Townhall, Reason, Am Spectator, Commentary, Am Thinker, Wkly Std. Instapundit and Redstate are also reliable first stops.
I read about thirty blogs every night, and it's interesting how there's been a realignment there in the Bamster era, when I had thought they were more or less of one mind.
slick -- oh yeah. That guy
May 4, 2009 - 09:16 ET by Jack Bauerslick -- oh yeah. That guy at LGF went way off the deep end a while back. So BORING.
It's his site and he can do what he wants, but I suspect there are lots of former readers who DO NOT want to see another thread about his relentless attacks on folks who subscribe to the "Intelligent Design" theory.
And they guy is just offensively loopy on that particular subject. I haven't checked it out for six months.
Anyone who believes the greatetst threat to America is 1. Christians and Jews who believe in God, (we do share Genesis, after all when God designed the universe); and 2. European based so-called "white supremicist" groups, is just crazy.
ABC, CBS Blame Conservative Social Positions for GOP Misfortunes
May 4, 2009 - 00:12 ET by ExToledoanObjective reporting on their behalf would state: Conservatives blame ABC, CBS, NBC for liberal social positions (naw, that would be pointing out the obvious).
It's no wonder the alphabet news stations have ratings in the toilet. It's only fitting they are now going "green." It's the color of envy and stagnation.
Bullpuckey. I wish
May 4, 2009 - 00:39 ET by CooltomBullpuckey. I wish Republican leaders would realize that Conservatives are not Right Wing -- they are in the middle. Most people have common sense, produce something for a living, and lead average lives. In a word they are normal.
And yes, most are conservative, which means thay are decent, hardworking and proud of their country. However, a lot of them don't bother to vote because they think both parties are pathetic.
If only Republicans acted like Republicans they would draw these people out -- as Reagan and Newt did and they would win overwhemingly. Trying to emulate Democrats is stupid. In close races even Democrats aren't foolish enough to run as liberals.
The two biggest reasons
May 4, 2009 - 00:36 ET by MidAmericaThe two biggest reasons for the defeats of the Republican Party is lack of leadership by Republicans in Congress and 'The New Tone'. George Bush and the cowardly Republicans allowed the democrats and the media to beat the Republicans to a bloody pulp and their only response was to apologize for bleeding and making a mess.
It's not surprising that
May 4, 2009 - 01:19 ET by mattmIt's not surprising that the alphabet networks and libtards in general would make the claim that the GOP's recent losses are due to "right wing extremism" but what's disgusting is that the true culprits, the RINOs, are joining in the chorus.
Former senator Dave Durenburger recently said: "The GOP used to be a 'big umbrella' party…the umbrella kept getting bigger all the time. And someone came along and shrunk that umbrella." Then he endorsed the corrupt vote ranking scheme known as Instant Runoff Voting saying, "on behalf of my kids, my grandkids, the people who voted for Barack Obama who said, 'It’s time for a change in this country. Let’s take back the governance of all our institutions, including our political institutions.' This is the only way I know to do it on the political side."
This guy still calls himself a republican.
"It's the RINOs, stupid." - Publius
I always find it interesting
May 4, 2009 - 01:30 ET by USA4freedomI always find it interesting how our enemies (the modern left with their mouth organ the MSM) are always telling us how to win.
It’s a bit like Sitting Bull telling Custer: If I were you..I would divide my force in half and then make a stand on top of that hill..humm what is the name of that hill over there? Oh yea Little Big Horn. You will be fine..
Look you half A$$ Republicans/Democrats. The reason we are not voting for you is the very reason that we cant tell you apart from the other party that only wants to hold power at any cost (that cost is always passed on to us..)
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
I thoroughly agree on The
May 4, 2009 - 05:24 ET by motherbeltI thoroughly agree on The New Tone. GW Bush was a wonderful person, but he was under the impression that one should treat large groups like one would an individual, i.e. turning the other cheek. I don't know if Republicans were taking their cue from him, or just trying to tell people "We're not as evil as you think!"
The late Michael Kelly wrote about this, way back in 2001, when the Senate was split 50-50, and the Republicans decided to "share power." I saved this, because it's a masterpiece of describing the differences in "bipartisanship" on opposite sides of the aisle.
Money quote:
What we thought we'd do, in the spirit of bipartisanship, is this:
Whack you and whack you and whack you and whack you and whack you and
when we're tired of that, whack you some more.
******
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
During the Presidential
May 4, 2009 - 06:29 ET by MidAmericaDuring the Presidential campaign I would wince every time I heard McCain refer to obama as "my friend". This notion by elected Republicans that they are there to make friends and 'reach across the isle' is disasterous for the party when the democrats are opperating as political jihadists who will cut your head off just to make a point.
I hear the same message
May 4, 2009 - 01:15 ET by jdhawkI hear the same message from my liberals friends. This is propaganda from the DNC. The attempt is to separate conservatives from our moral roots and what the majority of Americans know, think and feel is right.
This is a concerted effort to influence who we put forward in the next election in 2010. They want us to choose so-called moderates because they know that is a sure formal for losing elections as was demostrated last year.
Not to be nit-picky, and I know what you mean...
May 4, 2009 - 05:29 ET by motherbeltBut when talking about what is right, knowing is enough. Thinking and especially feeling that something is right is irrelevant.
Some men (or women) "think" it's OK to desert their families to be with another person, because they "feel" they have a right to be happy.
But they know it's not.
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
if the MSM pronounces it so
May 4, 2009 - 01:36 ET by katainkentand no one is listening - is it still so?
Hold on ‘cause the world will turn if you're ready or not ~ KT Tunstall
Same ol' same ol'
May 4, 2009 - 02:01 ET by gopcongressThe republicans should take heed this time around. Why is it that we need a 9/11 before we understand that National Security is job one, or a Josef Stalin clone from Chicago to threaten capitalism which is job one point five?
Of course, in 2010 we will retake Congress. That should be a given. But what will we do with it once we do?
After WW1, we essentially let Germany rot for decades after leaving the continent, which turned into WW2. Similarly, after we won in '94, we let it get away from us by turning into RINO's. This time, we should do what we did after we won WW2 and turned Germany/Japan into democracies, and instill the Libertarian/conservative values from Congress into society as a whole.
Someone convulated reasoning, perhaps, but still applicable.
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Social conservatism....
May 4, 2009 - 06:22 ET by adamsmithSocial conservatism is the reason I left the party back in 1986. When Reagan was kissing Jerry Falwell's behind for votes, that was it for me. Unfortunately, it was it for most of America as well. The Republicans looked like Theocrats from that point forward. No one wants commissions like the one Ed Meese ran against Pornography. If you don't like it, don't buy it. The abortion thing is a bad joke. You could overturn Roe v. Wade( which as a Pro-Choice libertarian I think would be right with a state's rights theme behind it) shoot Ob-Gyns that even speak of abortion on sight, and kill girls that have had the procedure, and you're not going to stop it. Like the Drug Laws, none of these measures will stop abortions from being performed. As a Libertarian that is conservative except for the social aspect, I'm tired of losing the country to so called Progressives over this issue. I'm not in favor of the government paying for it, and think Planned Parenthood is not the most honest player, but I'm extremely uncomfortable with the Federal Government having the power to put a figurative gun to a 13 year old's head who has been raped by her father, and telling her she's having a baby or else. I find that kind of government intrusion to be as horrific as wealth redistribution.
I'm a Catholic. My beliefs are my beliefs, but I cannot have legislation enacted to conform to MY religious beliefs, or that of my church. If abortion is wrong, is a sin, or one BELIEVES it is murder, you can only pray for someone who needs or even wants the procedure. To think you can outlaw it is as Utopian in thinking as most of the Democrat/Socialist belief system.
Realistically the Republicans should start taking a clue from Ron Paul and get behind reviving a country based on the United States Constitution. Paul gets a lot of positives on both sides of the aisle as most people realize the government has given itself powers not set up in the Constitution. Becoming the party of the Constitution is a sure winner against the Socialists now in power, it truly is what Republicans stand for. Prayer in school??? Why can't kids do that at home?? Social Conservatism is Utopian. Get rid of trying to control people's morality through legislation and the Republican party will destroy the Socialist Utopians in power in large margins. Anyone( I'm sure there will be quite a few) going to flame me, just think how successful the overturning of Roe v. Wade has been so far, and consider living under a full blown Communist system over the issue...
Social conservatism is the
May 4, 2009 - 06:48 ET by Dan The Man 2Social conservatism is the reason I left the party back in 1986
And look what happened, we need you back; nah on second thought stay in your cesspool. You are pretty blind and let teh MSM lead you around by your Ron Paul.
This is rich "I'm a Catholic" and you dont believe in social conservatism. Typical lapsed Catholic, I suppose you voted for Obama too.
This is a straw man "The abortion thing is a bad joke. You could overturn Roe v. Wade( which
as a Pro-Choice libertarian I think would be right with a state's
rights theme behind it) shoot Ob-Gyns that even speak of abortion on
sight, and kill girls that have had the procedure, and you're not going
to stop it. Like the Drug Laws, none of these measures will stop
abortions from being performed." and I suppose we should not make any laws or enforce them for the public good
Like outlaw murder or rape or incest; but I guess you might like those.
Geeze you infuriate me more than the honest marxist liberal scum.
To Infuriated...
May 4, 2009 - 06:59 ET by adamsmithSorry I offend you. But think about what I've written. It's not coming from your emotional angle. As I wrote near the end, if you want to sacrifice the country to Socialism in trying to legislate human sexuality, good luck to all of us. The creeping Socialism of the last 100 days would make me rethink my prioities.
But think about what I've
May 4, 2009 - 07:26 ET by Dan The Man 2But think about what I've written
I have and I dont think you have. We legislate morality all the time, wether its their morals or ours. Do you understand this? Do you understand that abortion was illegal 36 years ago? But your arguments are bunk. I guess we need to understand all sex is ok and anywhere anytime.
You just dont get it the reason teh socialist is there because people dont understand the Constitution and how society works.
I suppose you did vote for Obama since you did not say otherwise.
My vote...
May 4, 2009 - 08:03 ET by adamsmithI wouldn't have voted for Obama and the Socialist crew if my life had depended on it. If you had read into my tone about socialists you could have inferred that yourself, rather than trying to rationalize something other than reality. Your views are as Utopian as the far left, and in no way touch on reality. The Republican party will not continue to lose election after election without the women's vote on this issue. They may completely break away forming a third party leaving the Theocrat minority to themselves and absorbing Democrats who aren't happy about the Socialist transformation either. I don't know if abortion is right or wrong, where life begins(Does a miscarriage lose a soul? Did a stillborn child ever have a soul? Since I'm not God I don't have those answers. Maybe you do...)as those questions are above my paygrade, and I'm not even a Marxist president...
Anyway, good luck on presuming to know what people think. That goes really far. Your emotionalism on the issue as I said is no different than a lefty insisting wealth redistribution is fair...
Your emotionalism and Since
May 4, 2009 - 10:27 ET by Dan The Man 2Your emotionalism and Since I'm not God I don't have those answers
Perhaps you ought to read your Bible rather than take it to church with you. I believe we are written into the book of life before we are born, so life does begin at conception. A soul is created at conception. I have emotion but also what you seem to lack reason.
I say that because you dont understand that someone makes the laws and that person has a set of values. We vote these idiots in. So it matters what values and moralities we vote in and how they make laws.
And last " wouldn't have voted for Obama and the Socialist crew if my life had depended on it" but you did not say who you voted for. A vote for any party but the Republican was a vote for Obama. The reason we pretty much have two parties control it all is our system of government.
My vote...
May 4, 2009 - 17:39 ET by adamsmithMy vote went to John McCain. Wish now I had just voted my principles and voted Libertarian for all the good my vote did in preventing a Creeping Communist from the presidency...
As far as me no longer being a Catholic, it used to be that life began at birth under church teachings. That's the reason a baby had to be baptized soon after birth so it's soul would go to Heaven rather than Limbo if it died. The church conveniently made Limbo go away, maybe for the anti-choice argument?.....That's why Catholics have Confirmation as well. The parents make the decision of the baby to become a follower of Christ. Around 13 years old, the Catholic undergoes a second "Baptism" with becoming a Confirmande, free choice and WANTING to be a soldier in Christ the reason for that. I read the Bible frequently, enough to know that one of the most important tenents in it is, "Judge not and ye shall not be judged." I don't question any of your levels of faith and I would appreciate no one questioning mine. That's between me and God...I'm sure that I am not the only Catholic who is against the government making medical and personal decisions, as even people of no faith are Americans too..
"We legislate morality
May 4, 2009 - 08:57 ET by Smartypants"We legislate morality all the time"
I agree entirely. Most of the left wing agenda is based upon legislated (or judicially imposed) morality. Redistribution of wealth is itself forced morality, and it isn't even very moral. Environmental radicalism, animal rights, gay rights--even nationalized health care. This is all morality-based liberal nonsense. The left, however, has successfully (and fraudulently) convinced the public that it is conservative Republicans who are telling everyone how they should live, imposing their morality on the population. The left has done this by selecting one or two issues and beating them to death (i.e., abortion and gay marriage). In typical form, liberals ignore their own transgressions when it comes to imposition of the moral high ground and they focus only on what Republicans are doing. The media aids in this regard by echoing the message.
The most successful war America has ever waged is quickly becoming President Obama's war on capitalism.
Adam
May 4, 2009 - 09:26 ET by ncstevemI concur with Dan. You're no longer a Catholic. Based on what you've written here, the correct term way to describe who you are now is 'lapsed Catholic'. One can't accept abortion and remain Catholic. Catholics can't pick and choose which Church teachings they want to believe. A Catholic is required to believe Church teaching (dogma and doctrine) in regards to faith & morals.
THE PROBLEM With the GOP
May 4, 2009 - 12:16 ET by sajc05The problem with the GOP is that it has shut itself off from it's root conservatives, conservatives from back in the 60's and 70's. and surrounded itself with people who don't believe in dinosaurs and people who think it is the job of the US taxpayer to send the military into every country it doen't like, threat or no threat.
Real conservatives say "hey maybe we should secure our ow borders and get our country under control before we spend a trillion dollars in foreign lands. But neocons hijacked the party and think that people like ron paul should be shut out of the convention because he might dare say our dollar is in trouble and our policy of borrow/print and spend is flawed. The neocons need people to keep watching cable news and go back to sleep.
real conservatives know better and thats why the GOP is hurting.
Why would you believe a Democrat-
May 4, 2009 - 12:27 ET by JIMMY1660would want conservatives to win an election, and they would give you the keys to winning.
Move to a true conservative platform and stick to it. the Dems have moved so far left, it will be very easy to show the differences-be strong-stay strong with conservatives values.
be sure there is a very large separtion from the Dems.
proud to be a Christian right wing extremist!
Democrats are and have always been,anti American-socialist/Marxist/communist thinkers.