On Friday afternoon, CNN's liberal contributor Roland Martin suggested that most people who are pro-life seem "hateful" as he was describing Mike Huckabee's need to reach out to non-evangelical voters. During an appearance on CNN Newsroom at about 1:47 p.m. with anchor Kyra Phillips, Martin contended that Huckabee needs to pursue a strategy similar to that of President Bush in 2000: "Sure, [Huckabee is] a staunch pro-life person, but he isn't perceived as being hateful as other people who are pro-life." (Transcript follows)
Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of Martin's comments from the Friday January 4 CNN Newsroom:
What Huckabee also has to do, though, because the conventional wisdom says Huckabee is only attractive to evangelicals, and so what he is trying to do is what George W. Bush did in 2000. Take his faith and be able to say, "Now let me be compassionate when it comes to the economy, when it comes to education, when it comes to health care. Sure, I'm a staunch pro-life person," but he isn't perceived as being hateful as other people who are pro-life.
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Wow. Mr. Martin, as someone
January 5, 2008 - 19:25 ET by Chris NormanWow. Mr. Martin, as someone who probably lived with the burden of ugly ignorant stereotyping, you sure know how to stereotype others, yourself.
LOL - yeah this Martin guy
January 5, 2008 - 23:02 ET by TruthMongerLOL - yeah this Martin guy may be black, but he probably isn't perceived as being a typical nwa gang_ _ _ with really big l_p_ and a penchant for wat_ _ mel_ _ and fried ch_ _ _ en...
as other people who are black of course:)...
As opposed to the loving Pro Fetal Death Squads
January 5, 2008 - 19:25 ET by richb313Only a liberal could take a Pro-Life position and make the proponents hateful. Hateful as opposed to the Pro Fetal Death Squad.. I mean the pro choice bunch.
Yeah, some of these radical
January 5, 2008 - 19:35 ET by Chris NormanYeah, some of these radical abortion activists in the NOW gang are just models of gentle thoughts and rhetoric...
Favorable towards killing
January 5, 2008 - 20:54 ET by Scout FinchFavorable towards killing innocent fetuses an inch big, or sucking the brains out of an eight month old fetus while hacking away at his/her tiny skeletal system...OK, but.....don't wear fur or eat meat! Murderer!
Pro Fetal Death Squads.
January 5, 2008 - 19:51 ET by mastersofdeceitPro Fetal Death Squads
And here.
Silly People
January 5, 2008 - 19:28 ET by OldSailor88Because everyone knows that partially birthing a baby and using suction to remove it's brain is one of the most loveable things you can do!(sarc off)
gack! These people make me spew.
Ecce potestas casei!
If only those who favor
January 5, 2008 - 20:58 ET by Scout FinchIf only those who favor partial-birth abortions or any abortion at all had mothers who favored or had abortions..............
It's called the Roe Effect.
Disagree
January 5, 2008 - 19:30 ET by Jerry MackGot it! If you disagree with Martin he will determine your level of hatefullness.
"but he isn't perceived as
January 5, 2008 - 19:39 ET by kg"but he isn't perceived as being hateful as other people who are pro-life"
Let's see......
Love life and wanting protection of the innocent = HATE
Murder the unborn and partically born = Goodness and Love
OK, got it!
Capital punishment without a
January 5, 2008 - 19:49 ET by NortoCapital punishment without a trial and NO chance of appeal. That's abortion in a nutshell.
Pulling a baby apart in the womb, now that is Hateful.
Here is an interesting question. Is there a law against murder, or are there only consequences as a result of killing another person in the form of sentencing.
The Ten Commandments notwithstanding, of course.
Whether implied or direct
January 5, 2008 - 19:53 ET by ConservativeRexWhether implied or direct Martins anti-life, pro-abortion stance, is, for a black man, the very same stance as the Ku Klux Klan. Congratulations.
Killing and ripping a baby
January 5, 2008 - 20:03 ET by FowlerK9Killing and ripping a baby from the womb is "hateful" period.
The didn't always kill the
January 5, 2008 - 20:08 ET by NortoThe didn't always kill the baby first. wow is that sick.
Rowland is classic EDS
January 5, 2008 - 20:29 ET by TjexciteEvangelical Derangement Syndrome, if a black man is knocked down a white evangelical pushed him down.
Rowland Martin should check
January 5, 2008 - 20:32 ET by motherbeltRowland Martin should check out this site Black Genocide and then decide who's more hateful to the black community: pro-lifers or the pro-abortion people.
Fruit cake
January 5, 2008 - 20:54 ET by general companyPro lifers/hatful? How?
These folks are psychotic, and dangerous.
"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain
He may have a point...
January 5, 2008 - 21:19 ET by Clear thinkerI hate those that find it so easy to murder an innocent life.
Rush Limbaugh stated that of the top 5 Republicans running for the presidency, only one was a true conservative. http://www.fred08.com/
Perceived by whom? By
January 5, 2008 - 22:05 ET by lotrPerceived by whom? By radical pro-abortionists? Anyone who has any casual contact with pro-lifers will vouch that they are most certainly not "hateful."
I am Pro-Life and will NEVER vote for the Huckster
January 6, 2008 - 00:24 ET by PopularTechI am still interested in the Huckabee's plan to stop the baby killers? Once everyone who supports him wakes up that all the Republican Candidates are Pro-life and that the president cannot change abortion law we can move on to issues the president can actually influence.
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"Ladies and gentlemen, Gov. Huckabee, mighty fine man and is a great Christian, is not a conservative, he’s just not. If you look at his record as governor, he’s got some conservative tendencies on things but he’s certainly not the most conservative of the candidates running on the Republican side." - Rush Limbaugh
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As "hating" goes ...
January 5, 2008 - 22:52 ET by drillanwrYeah, and to [some] in the "gay community" we heterosexuals are known as "breeders" ... But that's just one of those "terms of endearment" ... I suppose.
Of course pro life people are hateful just like God is hateful
January 6, 2008 - 00:15 ET by Lame CherrySo this is what you get if you cross Dan Rowan and Dick Martin........you get Roland Martin's Cry In.
Christians rightfully hate the murder of innocent children God has created and one will find listed what God hates most.
PROVERBS 6:16, These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Mr. Martin, you fulfilled the proud look, backing murder of innocents, were swift to being on television to spread mischief, have spoken lies about Christians being hateful and you are bent on sowing discord among Americans.
God help you to change your ways sir, as you are the definition of hate in what God hates. In His Name Amen
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Great post of the "hands
January 6, 2008 - 11:20 ET by KeithGreat post of the "hands that shed innocent blood", Cherry! It's pretty hard for them to get around that! Look, people Rowland Martin is one of these "new breed" of "Christians" that AREN'T BOUND BY SCRIPTURE, preferring instead, to write them themselves! I first corresponded with him in regards to an article that he wrote chastising the Religious Right for caring more, as he put it, about Abortion and Gays than they did for the poor. I pointed out to him that the argument of people like Jim Wallis, liberal alleged Minister, that not caring for the "poor" is sin, is WRONG. The "poor" that Jesus referred to in no way resembles the "poor" that the democrats refer to! You'll notice that Jesus NEVER included MEN in the "poor", it was always the "fatherless and the widows", a far cry from some rusty butt man capable of work who chooses welfare instead!
I also did a "scriptural takedown" of his ludicrous elevation of caring for the poor to the same level as stopping the homosexual onslaught or killing babies. I pointed out that the Apostles had once been similarly confused. There was a woman who anointed Jesus with a very expensive oil. The apostles thought that the money would have been better spent "CARING FOR THE POOR". Jesus dissed them quite severely and elevated the story of that woman to "scripture" level, by declaring that what she did would FOREVER be recognized whenever they spoke of HIM! Matt 26:7-13
7There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat.
8But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste?
9For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.
10When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.
11For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.
12For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial.
13Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.
Hardly a ringing endorsement of the democrats newfound religion, huh? However this alleged Christian, was not moved! How is it that the scriptures themselves do not correct the erroneous thoughts of so-called Christians? Well, in a minute you'll see why. In his article it became apparent that he gets his "theology" from his WIFE! LOL. Who somehow fancies herself a "Minister"! LOL. I pointed out to him that the strongest admonition against anything that did not result in "going to hell", was against allowing women to preach. In fact, the Apostle that said God forbade it, specifically challenged the authenticity of any who thought they could go against his prohibition!
1Corinthians 14:34-37
34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
I said something to the effect of, "now Mr Martin, it's pretty hard for your wife to "minister" without speaking isn't it? And she was just prohibited from even SPEAKING in church". He wrote back some nonsense about how I was taking scriptures out of context and that times had "changed". To which I said, " You mean the same Jesus that "changeth not"?Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
I of course asked him if he thought the scriptures that "Change not" were a "living breathing document" LOl. I said, "Now Mr Martin, every word must be established by "companion" scriptures, right? How about Paul admonishing Timothy on the same thing he admonished the Corinthians on, namely women forgetting their station?"
1 Timothy 2:11-15
11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
I said, "It's pretty hard for her to minister to men that she's not supposed to TEACH isn't it, Mr Martin? This alleged Christian said that she went to some bible school or other, to which I responded,"How does that allow you to violate the express commands of God through His apostles"? To which, he had no answer and stopped communicating. So, that's my "Rowland Martin Renegade Christian, Unbound By Scripture" story! Hope it's helpful in figuring out just who this guy is!
Rowland? Martin?
January 6, 2008 - 00:40 ET by TeamcheeserI loved this guy on "Laugh In"!
Oh wait... nevermind.
I always take a deep breath before openingNewsbusters
January 6, 2008 - 01:17 ET by West Coast MinorityAnd I always get frustrated and a little angry at times with the stories on this site... but for some reason, this one comment put me over the top. With such a cavalier attitude and certitude in the way Martin "reported", it is now crystal clear... cyrstal clear, that we are in a battle.
I'm "hateful"? Me? Just like that? I'm pro-life, and that makes me hateful in the eyes of this bigot? Where does he get such data? I am so angry right now that I can't even think straight.
That is so irresponsible to let that slur go without comment. But, it shows how misguided these people are... national television has incredible power, and it is in the hands of hatemongers.
I'm telling you, I am so frustrated right now. Maybe this was the straw that broke my back. I'm done tolerating this kind of broad smear, reported as fact, against people who don't believe like he does.
Unfortunately, he is on television and I am at home.
Whoa!
January 6, 2008 - 01:27 ET by TeamcheeserWest Coast Minority,
Slow down. We're here. We will help you through this.
Don't get angry. Get ready!
We shall overcome!
Thanks
January 6, 2008 - 04:19 ET by West Coast MinorityThanks team...
Breathing... breathing....
Dems = baby killers just
January 6, 2008 - 02:22 ET by rbosqueDems = baby killers just like the nazis were. 48 million dead babies is a lot of hatred, alot of selfishness.
I wonder if he knows the
January 6, 2008 - 02:59 ET by BlackwaterI wonder if he knows the majority of African-Americans are pro-life. Does that mean he sees black people as hateful?
Our Founder's Declared
January 6, 2008 - 09:52 ET by Crash"...endowed by their CREATOR with certain UNALIENABLE RIGHTS... among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
It does not read "among these are choice (abortion)." The founders assumed that people would act responsibly within the rule of law. Not with reckless abandon and deviant behavior. As an atheist I think that abortion as a means of birth control is an act of murder. The absence of anger and compassion, which they interpret as "hate", can only come from someone on dope or totally void of self regulation.
But then again, these are the same folks who believe that children should be allowed to roam free as long as it's not in their airplane or in their favorite restaurant. The same people who pushed midnight basketball and encourage teen sex, but, will sue parents for a teen who acted irrationally (which is most of the time). The liberal solution to everything is, "live like you want to live without taking responsiblity, you can always make someone else pay for your poor choices."
I like that final statement
January 6, 2008 - 09:56 ET by GregEI like that final statement "live like you want to live without taking responsiblity, you can always make someone else pay for your poor choices." So true! And if you mention that to a liberal, they'll get peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed off! Truth hurts and that's a pain they cannot hide.
Abortion Facts: It is
January 6, 2008 - 09:43 ET by jdhawkAbortion Facts:
It is surprising that Martin would call pro life advocates hateful, when it is women of his race that are 3 to 1 more likely to have an abortion. The facts below speak for themselves.
The following is a list of useful abortion statistics. All abortion numbers are derived from pro-abortion sources courtesy of The Alan Guttmacher Institute and Planned Parenthood's Family Planning Perspectives.
WORLDWIDE
Number of abortions per year: Approximately 46 Million
Number of abortions per day: Approximately 126,000
Where abortions occur:
78% of all abortions are obtained in developing countries and 22% occur in developed countries.
Legality of abortion:
About 26 million women obtain legal abortions each year, while an additional 20 million abortions are obtained in countries where it is restricted or prohibited by law.
Abortion averages:
Worldwide, the lifetime average is about 1 abortion per woman.
© Copyright 1999-2000, The Alan Guttmacher Institute. (www.agi-usa.org)
UNITED STATES
Number of abortions per year: 1.37 Million (1996)
Number of abortions per day: Approximately 3,700
Who's having abortions (age)?
52% of women obtaining abortions in the U.S. are younger than 25: Women aged 20-24 obtain 32% of all abortions; Teenagers obtain 20% and girls under 15 account for 1.2%.
Who's having abortions (race)?
While white women obtain 60% of all abortions, their abortion rate is well below that of minority women. Black women are more than 3 times as likely as white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are roughly 2 times as likely.
Who's having abortions (marital status)?
64.4% of all abortions are performed on never-married women; Married women account for 18.4% of all abortions and divorced women obtain 9.4%.
Who's having abortions (religion)?
Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and women with no religious affiliation obtain 23.7% of all abortions. 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical".
Who's having abortions (income)?
Women with family incomes less than $15,000 obtain 28.7% of all abortions; Women with family incomes between $15,000 and $29,999 obtain 19.5%; Women with family incomes between $30,000 and $59,999 obtain 38.0%; Women with family incomes over $60,000 obtain 13.8%.
Why women have abortions
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).
At what gestational ages are abortions performed:
52% of all abortions occur before the 9th week of pregnancy, 25% happen between the 9th & 10th week, 12% happen between the 11th and 12th week, 6% happen between the 13th & 15th week, 4% happen between the 16th & 20th week, and 1% of all abortions (16,450/yr.) happen after the 20th week of pregnancy.
Likelihood of abortion:
An estimated 43% of all women will have at least 1 abortion by the time they are 45 years old. 47% of all abortions are performed on women who have had at least one previous abortion.
Abortion coverage:
48% of all abortion facilities provide services after the 12th week of pregnancy. 9 in 10 managed care plans routinely cover abortion or provide limited coverage. About 14% of all abortions in the United States are paid for with public funds, virtually all of which are state funds. 16 states (CA, CT, HI, ED, IL, MA , MD, MD, MN, MT, NJ, NM, NY, OR, VT, WA and WV) pay for abortions for some poor women.
}}---> Thanks, Hawk
January 6, 2008 - 09:57 ET by Cool ArrowThat was a post worth reading.
Too many times we are flooded with links and stats that are both tedious and biased. (What? In a Newsbusters thread, you ask?)
But your post was thought provoking without any of the obligatory; "There you see dummy, I'm right"
Thanks
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MSM new-speak
January 6, 2008 - 12:08 ET by c5thenPeople who are trying to prevent infant murders are labeled as "hatefull" whereas people trying to promote infanticide are "compassionate"?
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.
Fan of Orwell
January 6, 2008 - 22:28 ET by richb313I am guessing you are a fan of George Orwell. He sure had it right in 1984. Todays press is a combination of his Ministry of Truth, and the Thought Police.
The pro-killing-of-babies
January 7, 2008 - 15:56 ET by mattmThe pro-killing-of-babies crowd has no legitimate argument, so they must resort to ad hominem attacks, thus further eroding the little credibility they have.