NBC's Matt Lauer celebrated 10 years at Today this morning and to be sure his run as co-anchor is chock full of biased interviews and liberal slants on a range of issues from the environment to the war on terror but a review of Lauer's record indicates one issue stands out as a particular obsession of Lauer's - guns. Whenever the issue of gun control was hot in the news Lauer could be counted on to push his guests for the harshest restrictions on the Constitutional right to bear arms. On September 5, 2002 Lauer asked then NRA President Charlton Heston: "Have you ever gotten up one morning, read the newspaper or seen the news about a particularly horrific crime or event that involved a shooting and thought even for a second, I may be on the wrong side of this issue?" And when asked by an interviewer in 2000 if he could ask Bill Clinton just two questions, Lauer eschewed impeachment, declaring: "It wouldn't be about [Monica Lewinsky]. I'd ask, 'What are you going to do about guns? Why not make this issue one of your legacies?''
The following collection of Lauer quotes on the issue of gun control through the years demonstrates the Today show anchor's decidedly anti-gun stance.
Matt Lauer: "Have you ever gotten up one morning, read the newspaper or seen the news about a particularly horrific crime or event that involved a shooting and thought even for a second, I may be on the wrong side of this issue?"
NRA President Charlton Heston: "No, I never felt that."
Lauer: "Never wavered?" – Exchange on NBC's Today, September 5, 2002.
"Let's take hijacking and potential crimes out of this for a second, and I know you say you don't want to dwell on [a] worst case scenario, but pilots are human beings. They get depressed, they get suicidal, they get angry. If they're armed, isn't that a formula for disaster?" -- Lauer to the head of the Airline Pilots Association, September 26, 2001 Today.
Matt Lauer: "Let's say I come down to your dealership, I buy a car tomorrow, I get my voucher, I go out and get my gun and then in a week or so I decide that I don't want it, what's to stop me from selling it to anyone I want to sell it to?...."
"And so if then the person that buys that gun from me goes out and commits a crime with it, or God forbid takes a life with it, how are you going to feel at your auto dealership?"
Tennessee car dealer Greg Lambert, who gave free guns to car buyers: "I'm not responsible for the actions of other people...what we need is crime control, not gun control."
Lauer: "Yeah, but why not take away the possibility? If you give someone a CD player, they can't go out and kill someone with it...."
"From what I understand, Mr. Lambert, you're taking the promotion a little bit further. Even children who come to your dealership are going to get a free water pistol, and some people say that's just going too far." – Aug. 25, 2000 Today interview.
"But isn't it just a case of terrible timing, Mr. LaPierre? I mean, not coincidentally, we've had a show this morning that's been filled with a murder in Los Angeles, a murder in Florida, five people were executed in a Wendy's restaurant here in New York just last week. I mean, this doesn't seem like the time you want to be promoting guns?" -- Lauer to NRA Executive VP Wayne LaPierre about plans to open a restaurant in Times Square, May 30, 2000 Today.
"When Lauer has to report stories such as the recent first-grade shooting in Michigan, he says, a part of him wishes he weren't a journalist. Then he wouldn't have to appear objective. 'I'd love to be more opinionated about guns.' He fears historians will describe turn-of-the-21st-century America 'in just two words: gun violence.' He tells of attending a party where friends discussed their office layouts – which closets they'd hide in to save their lives. ‘People at cocktail parties now talk about their personal safety. There's something really wrong here.'....
"If he could ask President Clinton just two questions: ‘It wouldn't be about [Monica Lewinsky]. I'd ask, "What are you going to do about guns? Why not make this issue one of your legacies?'" -- From a profile of Lauer by Jeffrey Zaslow in the April 28-30, 2000 edition of USA Weekend.
"And General Powell, one of the aspects of the program that I think may get some attention is that there is training in riflery, in marksmanship here. I understand they use .22 caliber rifles. At a time when we are so sensitive, it seems, to the connection between young people and guns, do you think it's a good idea to be putting them in contact with guns in high school?" -- Lauer to Colin Powell in interview about expanding ROTC in high schools, July 30, 1999.
"You'll start debate on the youth violence bill today. That, of course, comes up with tougher punishments for youths who commit crimes with guns. But then you will deal with the actual gun bill. Why talk about the penalties for guns before you talk about the guns themselves?" -- Lauer to Congressman Bob Barr (R-Ga.), June 16, 1999.
"There is some fear among some people that now that school is out, and parents aren't sending their children off into what they may view as harm's way every day that there's gonna be some momentum lost on gun control. Do you agree with that?" -- Lauer in same segment to Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.).
Matt Lauer: "Do you think people carrying concealed weapons might make a difference?"
Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura: "Licensed. I think that certainly in a reality situation that, like take, for example, what happened here on the subway in New York a few years back. Well, what are you going to do, I'll ask you Matt, when someone's on a rampage and cares not about human life and is just systematically assassinating people. Are you gonna stop ‘em with words?"
Lauer: "I guess it's always good at that point to have a gun around you. But my fear is if they're carrying a concealed weapon, what happens when they go off the deep end?" -- Exchange on NBC's Today, June 2, 1999.
"Let's bring the access of guns into this, Michael. I mean, in the city, guns, in my opinion, are seen as the tools of the criminal. But in many rural and suburban areas, guns are more part of the sporting culture. You see people with hunting rifles on their walls. You see people with gun racks in their car. Is that to blame?" -- Lauer talking about the Columbine high school shooting with Michael Guzy of the St. Louis Post Dispatch, April 30, 1999.
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.



















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Matt has always been full of
January 5, 2007 - 15:48 ET by bassndudeMatt has always been full of it. He dosent understand the criminals will always have guns. It is illegal for a felon to have one now, but it dont stop em from getting them. Matt is just stupid, is all.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Bryants Gun
January 5, 2007 - 16:21 ET by Jerry MackCould the captionfest be an indicator of the type of gun Matt likes?
Rifles vs. guns
January 6, 2007 - 20:29 ET by UnsaneIt sure can't be a rifle...
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Worse than Lauer
January 5, 2007 - 16:42 ET by Christopher MarlowePeople forget that our government confiscated legally registered guns from citizens following the Katrina disaster, while it allowed private mercenaries to patrol the streets of New Orleans. See New York Times September 8, 2005 Matt Lauer is the least of your worries.
People are killed everyday by
January 5, 2007 - 16:53 ET by paperheadPeople are killed everyday by cars. Should we outlaw cars? They very dangerous when used improperly. This is why I do not support gun control. Other nations with such policies also do not enjoy the same level of freedoms that we do here, which is the real reason for their lower crime rates.
paperhead- I am running out of nice with
January 5, 2007 - 16:59 ET by misterbillpaperhead- I am running out of nice with these liberal fools. I was an NRA member for 20 years. I never owned a gun. I just wante those who wanted to own a gun to do so. I believe in their right to do so. I also remember when I was aboy and the Nazis conquered France (I cannot remember whether irt was the fifth or sixth time), but they went to the local gendarmeries and got the lists of all the gun owners, went to their homes and seized the weapons. Don't want the Muslims to be able to do that.
another faux pas
January 5, 2007 - 17:04 ET by tumbler_2007Faux pas, misterboil
You're talkin about the Japs, when they landed in the Phillipines. Not Nazis in France.
just an example
January 5, 2007 - 17:14 ET by misterbillI didn't want to waste the time to prove it about France to you because , you insignificant twit aka geraldo, you would then either lay on some BS about God or racism. The following was the first hit I found. You don't know diddly.
Other European countries also had laws requiring police records to be kept on persons who possessed firearms. When the Nazis took over Czechoslovakia and Poland in 1939, it was a simple matter to identify gun owners. Many of them disappeared in the middle of the night along with political opponents.
"Switzerland was the only country in Europe, indeed in the world, where every man had a military rifle in his home. Nazi invasion plans acknowledged the dissuasive nature of this armed populace, as I have detailed in my book Target Switzerland: Swiss Armed Neutrality in World War II . Don't bother!!!!
Misterbill - "Page not f
January 5, 2007 - 17:23 ET by MikeBMisterbill - "Page not found".
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
mikeb -i blew the link
January 5, 2007 - 17:38 ET by misterbillI blew the link and could not find it again. Here is the book it addressesed/
TARGET SWITZERLANDSwiss Armed Neutrality in World War II
by Stephen P. Halbrook
To this day every able-bodied
January 5, 2007 - 19:21 ET by UnsaneTo this day every able-bodied man is required to own one of two types of semi-automatic handguns, according to Tom Clancy's "But I Like To Shoot", perhaps the best article I have read concerning the fallacies of gun control.
Care to guess what their burglary rate is?
"The law is far, the fist is near." - Korean proverb
Tumbler's been caught
January 6, 2007 - 16:31 ET by UnsaneHey racist! What do you have against the Japanese?
I take it then you'll stop accusing others of what you have just been caught doing?
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
I just love it when anti-gun
January 5, 2007 - 17:17 ET by RunningBeerI just love it when anti-gun nuts start confusing the 2nd ammendment with hunting. As if the ammendment reads "...being necessary to the security of game on the table..."
The absolute worst misinterpritation is when they claim "A well regulated militia..." refers to the National Guard (which didn't exist so phttttt! on that arguement). Now we can go into the definition of regulated as it was used over 200 years ago (well regulated, to be well outfitted) but that will just get the libs bowels in an uproar.
RunningBeer, it's the same wa
January 5, 2007 - 17:21 ET by MikeBRunningBeer, it's the same way with the phrase "pursuit of happiness." All that meant at the time was the career or profession of choice, not chasing after pleasure.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Gun Control: A firm, two-handed grip.
January 6, 2007 - 14:25 ET by Dave RAny time Matt Lauer, or any other DimLib, for that matter, tells you they are concerned about criminals obtaining guns, they are lying through their teeth. DimLibs do not give a rat's left gonad about criminals having guns. Let's face it, the government pretty much knows who and where the truly dangerous criminals are, and they can round them up pretty much anytime they wish.
What Matt Liar and his DimLib comrades really fear are guns that are in the possession of people like us here at NB, and the millions of other law-abiding people in this country who own firearms who have probably never heard of NB and most likely aren't even members of the NRA, as that organization's members make up only a tiny fraction of the gun owners in this country. I have seen some reports that estimate that upwards of seventy-five percent of Americans own at least one firearm of some type. Some say that percentage is probably higher still.
To a DimLib, guns represent independence from government, a concept that keeps many of out leftward leaning friends awake nights. Remember, one of the goals of the DimLibs, aside from turning this country into a Marxist/Leninist state is to make as many people in this country as dependent on government as they possibly can. Look at those people in New Orleans after Katrina hit. They had become so conditioned to depend on government and so impoverished that they were basically unable to do anything for themselves, even something as simple as getting out of town! The DimLibs had been running that city, as well as the entire state, for over four decades. If liberalism actually worked, then those people should not have been living in poverty. That is the sort of situation that the DimLibs want for the rest of us-to be so dependent on government as to be unable to do or, more importantly, think for ourselves. That is their ultimate goal, though they will never admit this.
They know that their form of government will be unacceptable to many of us who live in this country and who still care about real freedom, and they know there will be resistance from those of us who do not plan to go quietly into the night. But, just like all totalitarian types like Hitler, Stalin, and the rest, they can remove, or at least severely curtail, our capacity to resist if they manage to grab our guns. Thi is why that can never, ever be allowed to happen. If it does, the game, as they say, will be up.
I fear a government that does not want me owning a gun. If you truly care about remaing a citizen of a free country, then you should as well.
Dave R WOW! OUTSTAMDING
January 6, 2007 - 14:45 ET by ww thumperDave R WOW! OUTSTANDING POST !! I agree 110%. I also would fear a government that does not want me owning my guns. That is ONE of the reasons we have the best Millitary in the world. To protect us from people who would come here and take away our rights. Now we need to protect ourselves from the enemy from within the libs in government , and our drive by media. Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......WW
Thanks, ww. Even a amateur
January 6, 2007 - 15:01 ET by Dave RThanks, ww. Even an amateur newbie like me gets it right once in a while.
BTW: Ssshh-I'm in my office today supposedly writing a proceedure for building topographic surveys in Autocad, so don't tell anybody, heh, heh. :-)
Dave...
January 6, 2007 - 15:49 ET by Clear thinkerThe whole concept you wrote about concerning gun ownership relates beautifully with the "45 Communist Goals for America" written into the congressional record in 1963. You should read it sometime, it expalins alot.
Ct,Actually, I have. It's t
January 6, 2007 - 17:05 ET by Dave RCt,
Actually, I have. It's the road map this country allowed itself to be placed on fifty years ago. We seem to be moving along it at a faster and faster speed.
thumper is usually wrong
January 6, 2007 - 15:29 ET by tumbler_2007Guns have a legit place in our country, even if the right to own them is abused by criminals. In this aspect of the matter, thumper is absolutely correct.
Thumper and I are at odds over where guns in American hands become a curse; something heinous and destructive to men and women of good will. If I'm understanding him/her correctly, Americans have the right (his right) to shoot unarmed men and women in cold blood because they enter our country illegally. Not just thumper; one or two others in our blogsite have advocated "spilling blood" and firing at "invaders" on our side of a porous border. Unarmed men and women who have "declared war" on our nation! Those are (often, not always) the reassuring words of white supremacists!
A gun can't kill anyone, but a madman with a gun is very capable of it. I believe the ones who are driven to extremes by hatred represent this danger. They're a kind of armed madman. They're just too stupid to admit it, and hardly even care if it's murder.
We have a new definition here
January 6, 2007 - 18:26 ET by MikeBWe have a new definition here, folks! According to tumbler, illegal aliens are men and women of good will. Apparently even those who swarm across our border and open fire on an NG observation post. Yessir! That sounds like good will to me.
When it comes to my personal home, someone's "right" to be an @$$hole ends at my property line. Anyone of any race or any nationality (even American) who crosses that property line, then attemps to illegally enter my home will leave in a body bag. My right to self-defense supercedes a criminal's right to be a criminal. I don't care if that person was trying to steal to feed his kids or his drug habit, he/she does not have any right to steal from me. If he wants to feed his kids, he can ask if I have anything to spare. If he tries to take it from me, all bets are off.
Now, when it comes to our border, no one has any right to cross it illegally. If it were to become known that the U.S. would no longer stand for such, and would enforce their borders with lethal force, if necessary, the incidence of illegal crossing would go way down. That is, unless, Mexicans are dumber than a box of rocks, which I don't believe. Apply a bit of game theory to this situation. As it is now, illegals know that if they cross undetected, there is a good chance they will get a load of goodies. If they are detected, the worst that can happen to them is that they get sent back so they can try again. Therefore, the benefits far exceed the risks of adverse outcomes. Only when the risks exceed the benefits will they choose not to engage in the risky behavior.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
mike b: a box of rocks
January 6, 2007 - 19:28 ET by tumbler_2007Yeah; you're as dumb as a box of rocks. You advocate murder. Lethal force against unarmed men & women. How bout THIS bragadoccio: " Anyone of any race or any nationality (even American) who crosses that property line, then attemps (sic) to illegally enter my home will leave in a body bag." --Big BORE. The blowhard wants to act like John Wayne here; an action hero!!! These are the type who fall down and play dead as soon as real men say Let's Roll.
He can kill you with LOOKS! Betya his wife can make him shut his trap. "Brave Boy; go wash the dishes and when you finish there, here's this laundry. Or I'll take my Daddy's razor strop to your boney ass." "OK, YES, honey darling. Don't get upset! Hhhuh, Oh MY . " Hahaha! PUTZ--!
MikeB....I agree 200%!!(anyon
January 6, 2007 - 21:26 ET by ww thumperMikeB....I agree 200%!!(anyone else agree with Mike?? )
Now we all know that tumbler don't; He is almost allways on the wronggg side of any issue any reasonable person would be on.
Mike I agree with everything you said; I wish I had typed all that; boy that would be enough to make your fangerrz sore... :-^}
By the way tumbler Defending yourself and your family against some unknown person with unknown plans to what he may do to you, your wife, or your children, IS NOT against the law in Washington : (state that is) Defending yourself and family by shooting a burgler or worse , inside your home is not "murder" . I have done it before, and would do it again without a seconds thought. Now I'm sure that shocks you , and you will respond with name calling and the rest of your crazzy B S.
That is how I feel , and I am still in good graces with my LORD GOD. WW... Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......WW
Thumper...Yeah, I agree. We h
January 6, 2007 - 21:32 ET by Clear thinkerThumper...
Yeah, I agree. We have the right to protect our borders by any means necessary, period!
Now I'm not saying I want us to start shooting unarmed woman and children, but I do want our border protected. Being the good people that we are, the fence should stretch across the entire southern border. It's the humane thing to do!
ClearThinker...you posted t
January 6, 2007 - 21:46 ET by ww thumperClearThinker...you posted this right below my post about defending myself and family and home from a burgler, murder, or rapist , or GOD only knows what else.
But I do believe we should defend our borders from invaders from anywhere. Especially those who come across WITH GUNS, SHOOTING! at our BORDER GUARDS and our Army Troops!
Anyone who would disagree with my last sentance; ("Especially....) " Has their head somewhere is should not be......
And I also think (IMHO) we should start TOMARROW on a 20ft high FENCE all the way across the southern border! ( that will pss of someone we all know) :-) Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......WW
I understand completely. The
January 6, 2007 - 21:55 ET by Clear thinkerI understand completely. The fence should be as high as a two story building and stretch along the entire border. By doing this it decreases the chance that I may to shoot someone coming through my granddaughters bedroom window.
So the wall, fence or whatever, saves us a lot of trouble and heartache beyond the usual reasons.
FYI... I'm also in favor of electrifying the fence with some very high voltage.
ClearThinker...Thanks......
January 6, 2007 - 22:01 ET by ww thumperClearThinker...Thanks......Hey thats Good Thinkin' :-)) Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......WW
yeah, your Super Fence, Ha!
January 6, 2007 - 22:29 ET by tumbler_2007Don't make me laugh! How in the world can YOU call yourself "clear thinker"--? You can't think.
FYI, an electric fence is murder. It's impossible to carry out; Congress wouldn't support it, being the dream-child of a retard. And two-story fences are pie in the sky. Wasted gazillions of dollars. Do you intend to use your own fortune, Uncle Scrooge McDuck?
Tumbler....Put down the bottl
January 6, 2007 - 22:34 ET by Clear thinkerTumbler....
Put down the bottle of Scotch and go to bed!
Scotch? Get a better put down
January 6, 2007 - 22:43 ET by tumbler_2007I drink Irish whiskey, Dear. Used to like Scotch, but switched. Tonight um having some Merlot, I hope you don't object?
dear thump; ask me if I care
January 6, 2007 - 22:21 ET by tumbler_2007Both you & Mike have clearly bought too much coke over recent years & have your brains cooked. At least clear thinker openly states she doesn't call for the murder of unarmed men & women; only the self defense of hearth and home. Defense of your home by lethal means if necessary is not in dispute here. I would not bother to even make fun of Mike for his overblown ego, if that was all we have to argue over.
I also own a gun. A .357 Magnum; and I'm not afraid to use it. But bragging about killing people is off-the-wall; only a total simpleton carries on in that way. Who can possibly respect simpletons who need to inflate their importance like that? Mike's ridiculous; a loose cannon beatin his chest on the Internet to pump his manhood. That's not even machismo; that's a noisy monkey when he flashes his monkey genitals at the others.
As for thumper: (WE?) WE-e-e, Kimo-sabe? "should start TOMARROW (sic) on a 20ft high FENCE all the way across the southern border! ( that will pss of someone we all know" :-) To marrow! OK! Pss me off, Big Shot. How many fences have you ever built, contractor? You couldn't even build a campfire. Don't threaten. Do it, blowhard ! I've stated already, defend the border against smugglers and criminals; shoot if they come armed. --
You know damn well it's unarmed peons and women I defend from your putzy and ridiculous cursing and threatening with guns. It's not rocket science, Putz. You MAY NOT advocate MURDER in this country. It's actionable. If somebody actually gets killed, you'll land in prison for it.
Please stop trying to impress somebody with your faux machismo. You AREN'T machos. You're putzes. And by the way; MACHO is a Spanish term. Who coined it? MEXICANS; they know something about it. They aren't putzes like certain Bozoes in this thread; who think a gun makes them manly.
****yawn****
January 6, 2007 - 22:24 ET by Blonde****yawn****
***yawn*** is right, but you
January 6, 2007 - 22:29 ET by Clear thinker***yawn*** is right, but you gotta admit it's funny seeing him give Mexicans credit for the word Macho. I'm betting the Spaniards would argue with that one.
I ought to know
January 6, 2007 - 22:37 ET by tumbler_2007So-called thinker:
Macho is the MEXICAN term for He-Man. It's in the Spanish language, which is Mexico's mother tongue. Just as ours is English. Are you an Englishman?
Spain didn't make the term popular with the people. Spain is overseas, in case you don't know. I am of Spanish descent. That is where bullfighting started, and he-men don't brag about killing unarmed men & women, the way you do. In Spain it ain't brag, it's fact.
"I also own a gun, a .35
January 6, 2007 - 22:42 ET by MikeB"I also own a gun, a .357 magnum, and I'm not afraid to use it." Sounds like a bit of macho chest beating genital flashing there. Maybe that big ol' gun makes tumblebug feel manly? Perhaps needing to convince everyone of his manhood after he revealed himself as a gay caballero with his "shhhhhweetheart" comment earlier. Although, he did say he had breakfast with his wife so, giving him the benefit of the doubt he may be a bisexual caballero.
Tumblebug seems to think he can read our minds and hearts, and attributes to us things we did not post or even mean. Tumby, you really need to get back on your meds. Either that, or stop partaking of the illegal substances some of your innocent illegal brothers and sisters are smuggling over the border. Just for future reference, I have never partaken of cocaine or crystal meth or crack or any of the opiates, etc. So, watch the slander.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
still clueless?
January 6, 2007 - 22:51 ET by tumbler_2007Mike B for Bozo; still out to lunch?
Shweetheart is Humphrey Bogart lingo, Dummy. Are ya calling Bogart a gay?
Notice my mention of firearms only came up after you were threatening to eliminate all your imagined enemies some night, after they charged into your boudoir and interrupted you during your hand job. You told us you'd dispatch them all in body bags --because you have that RIGHT! Hahaha! PUTZ.
Please take the porn referenc
January 6, 2007 - 23:05 ET by BlondePlease take the porn references elsewhere.
tmbler..I don't know why I ev
January 6, 2007 - 22:50 ET by ww thumpertmbler..I don't know why I even bother answering your posts......You need to CAREFULLY READ ! our posts and remember what we say! NEVER , NEVER, in ANY POST I HAVE EVER WRITTEN; ADVOCATED MURDERING ANYONE. Not ever ONCE in ANY post, for over the last 4+ months!
The ONLY THE ONLY TIME I have advocated "shooting " anyone ; was the people ( from wherever) who cross any US border AND SHOOT AT OUR BORDER GUARDS AND ARMY TROOPS.
ALSO THE PEOPLE WHO BREAK INTO MY HOME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND THREATEN TO MURDER ME AND MY FAMILY.
Like I said Protecting my home IS my RIGHT , and I will do it however I must!
I typed some of this in LARGE PRINT hoping you will read it easyer , and understand what I said!
All will notice you resorted to calling me names again! & again & again as you always do!!
tumbler you know..... I don't give a damm about having machismo or being MACHO or any of the rest of your B S terms. I do care about defending the United States , and defending my home. If you don't like it , get over it!!. ww Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......WW
impossible little thumper
January 6, 2007 - 23:04 ET by tumbler_2007You know something, thumpa? I feel kinda sorry for you.
You're right. I shouldn't play with you this way. You're too sensitive. It's not at all like bitch-slappin Mike and a couple of other Bozoes in this place. They're LOGS, we walk on them over the river. They are bereft of feelings.
You are a delicate soul. I must be less aggressive with you, because to you this is always personal. I'm not mocking you, I truly love somebody completely innocent and earnest.
So, just stop advocating violence against helpless minorities. --You say you don't ? ? ? Well then, I'm sorry.
I agree emphatically: anybody who makes an armed incursion into this country; out of Mexico or out of anyplace; we take them prisoners dead or alive. I wasn't defending them. I'd be insane to defend outlaws. Is this clear to you? FINE--!
tumbler....GEEEEZZ you are TH
January 6, 2007 - 23:15 ET by ww thumpertumbler....GEEEEZZ you are THCK headed!!!
I HAVE NEVER, NEVER! ADVOCATED VIOLENCE AGANIST ANY!! MINORITIES ! IN ANY POST I HAVE EVER WRITTEN!!!
Not ONCE ; You need to STOP acuseing me of that . I never did;
Only those who as you say "makes an armed incursion into this country......." NOT helpless minorities!.... Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......WW
thumpa, you should've read this
January 6, 2007 - 23:21 ET by tumbler_2007should've read this, thumper:
against helpless minorities. --You say you don't ? ? ? Well then, I'm sorry.
WELL THEN
WELL THEN
WELL THEN, what else? I'M SORRY --! Can't you read?
tumbler.."WELL THEN"
January 6, 2007 - 23:34 ET by ww thumpertumbler.."WELL THEN" ( :-) ) Ok you said "I'M SORRY--!can't you read?" you posted after I posted ; yes tumbler, I can read real well; Thanks for saying you are sorry, I except your sorry .
Now let's try to be nice, I will , if you will. ww Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......WW
ww thumper, you may as well g
January 6, 2007 - 23:04 ET by MikeBww thumper, you may as well give it up. Tumblebug is right, and everyone else is, besides being racists, bigots, white supremacists, Nazis, and, if female, bimbos, wrong. You can print quotes from news sources citing statistics on the economic impact of illegal aliens, and you are a not only a liar, but gullible for quoting from a newspaper. You can link to a source confirming your story, and you will not get an apology from the dung beetle. Instead you will get slandered yet once again. No matter what you post, if you do not agree with our resident omniscient one, you are a liar. Of course all this must be true, because he has posted nothing but common sense (in an alternative universe, it is common sense). And, seeing as how he is of Mexican descent, he has absolute moral authority to slander and resort to ad hominem attacks.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
come on, mike
January 6, 2007 - 23:12 ET by tumbler_2007Haha! When did you EVER "confirm your story"--? Confirm how Mexican illegals are vermin? Isn't that your real song? Beat em up, shoot em, no mercy, no nonsense no amnesty no problem? Just kill them as soon as they come up for air? On account of your stupid RIGHTS?
You definitely ARE gullible. You can't be slandered because you are on par with the devil. Now you're appealing for sympathy from thumper; Weasel. He's not your kind. I've met your kind. PHONEY PUTZES ! They believe in ONE thing, ME! ME, me, and me.
MikeG....SHEEE!! Now we
January 6, 2007 - 23:27 ET by ww thumperMikeG....SHEEE!! Now we are "on par with the devil...." !! I give up with this guy...Now I'm a "Weasel"!!
I have been trying real hard not to call him an "ass" but I'm about to give up and do it anyway ..... :-( Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......WW
No, no, thumper, I'm the weas
January 6, 2007 - 23:41 ET by MikeBNo, no, thumper, I'm the weasel. Whoops, misspelled that: Weasel with a capital W.
Hmmmm.... I'm a Weasel, You're a Weasel, wouldn't you like to be a Weasel, too?
As for comparison with the devil, I believe that slander, truth twisting, and lying are practices of the devil. So far, Senor Tumblebug has been following the example of the Original Slanderer, the Father of Lies. So, just consider the source and go on.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
MikeB..When reading his pos
January 6, 2007 - 23:47 ET by ww thumperMikeB..When reading his posts.....I just shake my head.....all that name calling and bs from an older (should be gentelman) ...you would think he would rather "get along" with us, than call us names and spew all that anger and hatered to us... Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......WW
Tumbler, I was not appealing
January 6, 2007 - 23:38 ET by MikeBTumbler, I was not appealing for sympathy from ww thumper, I was giving him sympathy for his having to tolerate your slanderous attacks. What I was referencing about a confirmed story was over on the Open Thread:
ckc1227 quoted the Houston Chronicle's story that stated "70% of births in Houston and Dallas public hospitals are to illegal alien mothers."
To which you replied, "You are relying on the MSM for your hate speech?"
james789 then linked to Snopes confirming ckc1227's statements.
ckc1227 told the truth, you accused him of hate speech, he was proved correct. You, sir, owe ckc1227 an apology.
That "illegal immigrants are vermin" is your interpretation of what I have said. I did not say that at any time. I stated that all illegal immigrants are criminals. A true statement in any universe but the one you and your incredible ego inhabit. I also gave Mexicans credit for more intelligence than you apparently do.
You are predictable and boring in your knee-jerk whiny claims of "racism" any time anyone states that we need to secure our southern border.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
this is a gun thread
January 7, 2007 - 00:13 ET by tumbler_2007Listen, Tough Guy:
I've been seeing through you for a while now. Suddenly you're changing your skin; instead of the Blood and Guts of shooting them in cold blood, you think, Let's go with the illegal baby deliveries and shoot down Tumbler's TRUTH. (It's truth, Mike-- how you hate Mexicans.)
As I commented to another fellow earlier: All this disgust --OH, SHIT! Babies and our money going in the crapper! Paying BILLIONS! On account of UGLY MEXICAN's BABIES!!!!
Coming from Bozoes like you? Babies shock you? Well; I yam SORRY! This is terrible! Why haven't all them illegal aliens been carted over to Planned Parenthood, so they could be CURED? You know, all us upright American taxpayers (meaning the Bozoes) keep telling you, pregnancy is just a DISEASE! You need an abortion, Pepita! Get an abortion, Maria, Conchita, Lupita! We have your medicine here at Planned Parenthood. We'll just cure you of them unwelcome babies! Because you're here illegally. Just costing us big bucks! Ungodly plague of Mexicans!!! Kill those babies!
Am I slandering you, Mike? OK, YOU are also slandering good people. Mexican illegals are NOT criminals. They're evading the law; but morally nobody has the right to call them criminals. And I'm NOT defending them for sneaking into our country. Once more I'll state: They are eligible for deportation. We enforce the law, and send back the illegals if & when possible. I believe in the law.
I DO NOT believe in hatred of these poor people. They have souls. They need help. You don't give a damn, but I speak for their humanity. Americans are NOT selfish, our hearts are open and generous. Not only hispanic Americans. Good Americans everywhere. If you prize the border more than a human being and the baby of that human being, --just get out of my life. And don't come knocking what I believe, because I'm a free man! Believe whatever you please and let me be.