Weatherman Roker Thunders at Oprah Critics: 'Boo on You, Shut Up' [Video]

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To quote Jimmy Durante: everybody's trying to get into the act.

At the "Today" show, it's not enough anymore to be subjected to the liberal preaching of Vieira, Lauer and Curry. Now weatherman Al Roker wants to harangue us, too. Roker had been off for a few days, and this morning we found out why:

"We were in South Africa at the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy. Life changing. Good for her. She's done such an amazing job." Wonderful. Good. Glad to hear it. But Al didn't stop there.

"And to the people who are castigating her: boo on you. If you've done as much as she's done, very nice. But if you didn't: shut up."

View video here.

My goodness. You'd think Oprah was a horribly maligned and vilified figure; an object of pity. Last time I looked she was one of the most adored, popular, influential people in America. Oh, and a billionaire to boot. But Al would place her off limits for criticism unless we're a walking combination of Mother Teresa and the Gates Foundation?

Note: the criticism has apparently focused on three areas: the school's lavishness, its location in South Africa rather than the US, and its exclusion of boys.  More here.

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Why the castigation?  Does i

Why the castigation?  Does it have something to do with this new school she opened in Africa?  I'm asking because of something I watched on TV recently.  During a news conference at the opening of the school, somebody actually had the guts to ask her why there were no white kids in the school.  Not sure what her reply was.  I think it was a fair question. 

I've added a Note at the fo

I've added a Note at the foot of the item explaining the criticism.

I saw the segment and chuckle

I saw the segment and chuckled to myself as Al did his bit. I had heard there were some comlaints but thought I should find out what they were before I drew judgement.

As far as the white vs black kids in the school issue it could be that there are no whites in this area. Someone may have better insight into that point than me buy I don't see it as an issue.

So if they can complain that

So if they can complain that there are no whites in a certain area of Africa, shouldn't they complain that there are no penguins at the North Pole, or Polar Bears at the South Pole? Isn't thier god of mother nature being just as "unfair" and racist?

As I see it, Al is yelling at people who are complaining that they have a better way to spend her money. He's right to tell them to shut up, in fact he tells them to put up or shut up. Something I wish more people would do.

An MSN story says it is a s

An MSN story says it is a school of "152 mostly black students", so there may be some whites as well. There was a ceiling of around $8000 annually for family income, and an interview was required.

Roker's remark made it plain: criticizing "the Oprah" as Rush calls her, (because she is so much more than just a person) is off-limits. At least it was HER money this time. Remember when there was a big deal about her "giving" several hundred audience members a new car? It turned out that she had talked Pontiac into donating them.

OK, read the complaints, than

OK, read the complaints, thank you Mark. I gotta go with the "it's her money" crowd on this one. Hollywood bozos will spend a million bucks on a wedding or some party and no one blinks an eye.

A website called TMZ. com h

A website called TMZ. com has a story in the issue. Says that Oprah's answer to why Africa instead of here is that if you ask American kids what they want, they will say sneakers or an IPOD, but in Africa they ask for uniforms so they can go to school. I also heard a discussion about her reason for the decision on the Rush Limbaugh program yesterday, but not enough of it to get the details.

To be honest I have to agree

To be honest I have to agree with him.  Oprah has spent millions on a US education system where kids have pissed away chances for a future then complain that the system failed them. If I was here I would have taken my money somewhere where they appreciate education too.  

The US educational system needs an overhaul. Until the liberals allow discipline to return to education its pointless to invest any money in the public school system.

This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave. 

Chem Op - I can't disagree

Chem Op - I can't disagree either that the people in South Africa would appreciate it much more. What bugs me about Oprah is that she realizes that it's not a good use of her money to spend it here, but she expects all of us who are less fortunate than her to spend our money on it through taxes.

I think Oprah is pretty smart and hard working and realizes what it takes to make it. I heard her say on a show one time a long time ago that giving money to certain relatives did nothing to help them and even hurt them so she stopped. Why can't she see that it's the same thing when the Government gives handouts (not hands up)?

Oprah's problem is that she is so star struck that she can't go against the Hollywood crowd even though she knows better. But I guess it's her livelihood. If she were to espouse conservative values the celebs would blacklist her.

I agree with you, however I

I agree with you, however I think what she has done here completely in the vein of Conservatism. I see it as a "tough love" of sorts. Boo freakin' hoo to the folks in the schools she wanted to donate to.

She's actually sticking to her guns in not giving this money away to people who, (in her opinion) neither deserve, nor appreciate it.

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Can anyone imagine Willard Sc

Can anyone imagine Willard Scott saying anything more controversial than Macy's parade floats are pretty?

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Chris, I feel a chill wind b

Chris, I feel a chill wind blowing across America today.

Liberalism

This is modern liberalism. Phony "nice guys" like Roker and Russert are nothing but vicious ideologues who would cut your throat as quick as look at you if you disagree with them. Have you ever crossed a "liberal"? Try it some time and find out who your friends are.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

The issue is that liberals of

The issue is that liberals often preach (and scream) at everyone that people like Oprah are above any scrutiny, they are above us on some untouchable moral pedestal.  How DARE you question Cindy Sheehan?  How DARE you question Michael J. Fox's motives or actions?  How DARE you even approach the throne of the Great and Glorious Oz, I mean, Oprah.  I have never watched a whole show and I am not a fan, but if she wants to build schools in S. Africa, that's her business.   I still have the right to form opinions and ask questions, something the elites feel only they can do, I guess. 

   I turn the channel whenever the fawning over celebrity stars and their holier-than-thou b.s. begins.  Which is alot!  Celebrity worship, and Oprah-worship, is a sin in my eyes. 

   

"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere"          -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph

Roker

You'd think guys like Roker, Gumbel and the rest would appreciate how far they've come in America. But no, they spit in your face the minute they get the chance.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

KI, Sigh. Our culture is now

KI, Sigh. Our culture is now greatly influenced by the E! Network and People magazine mentality...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Yesterday, Sean Hannity expre

Yesterday, Sean Hannity expressed comments that would be supportive of Oprah as well. She can spend her money however she wants.

Roker is also normally a non-player in lib-bias, so I really fail to see the connection here. I don't see the point of this particular NB post. Oprah's charitable contribution was not political in a partisan sense IMO. 

-PJ

http://www.draftcondi.us/

shut up

I believe at least part of the point is the "shut up" comment by Roker. Once the media is allowed to stiffle dissent, freedom is gone in America. Hannity is not an oracle of wisdom either. People must think for themselves and not let these "geniuses" think for them just because they were lucky enough to get on t.v.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

Then we'd probably agree that

Then we'd probably agree that the root violation is NBC giving the Today show hosts valuable airtime and a coffee mug to make their own personal commentaries about everything. I'm down with that.

-PJ

http://www.draftcondi.us/

Right.

Right. When cable first began in the 70's, besides being touted as "free", it was also touted as giving the "average" person a voice. There were some outlets which actually let people come on and talk. (I think there may be some still out there). As it evolved, however, both the "free" and the "average person" concepts disappeared from cable and the big money people took over. Nonetheless, what is left for the individual is his own mind and ability to think for himself. Many, including some on Fox, do not believe that the "common man" has this abiltiy to any great extent. That's another subject. But we must continue to fight for right to speak out or America, as we know it, is finished. Don't ever let them tell you to "shut up".

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

You can't criticize Oprah; sh

You can't criticize Oprah; she's a woman, a black and a liberal.  What the heck were you thinking?

And is this article correct

And is this article correct? Not only do boys need not apply, but white people too? I have not been able to find independent sources and no one seems willing to address this issue, if true.

I think the point is that t

I think the point is that there are more than enough opportunities already for white males in South Africa.

Wrong again. You don't read m

Wrong again. You don't read much do you?

Read the links at this website:

http://ezinearticles.com/?Black-Racists-Slaughter-Whites-in-South-Africa---Wheres-the-Outrage?&id=251141

So you're saying there are

So you're saying there are plenty of opportunities for poor black women in South Africa to garner an education, that Oprah is just throwing her money at something that's really not that important or useful.

I am saying is there any ot

I am saying is there any other source that verifies what is said in this article I linked to? That white girls were not allowed or considered? Who said anything about opportunities for anyone anywhere? And I am suggesting that, if true, it should be made VERY clear that boys of all colors and white girls were shut out. If true, I think I would like to hear more about that. And an explanation.

Apparently there is a white

Apparently there is a white girl, one. Which is not really surprising, as I understand that there are not a lot of underprivileged white girls in South Africa.

Ah yes...nothing like a token..

Ah yes, nothing like a token nigg...wait...token cracker to say, "See, I'm Oprah and I do care about white people". Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

Or perhaps it's a represent

Or perhaps it's a representative of the percentage of underprivileged white girls in South Africa. You can claim racism if you want, and I'm sure Debbie will appreciate the company.

Your defense is based on a perhaps? Ha

Like all super-libs your defense is based on a "perhaps" without any research because you are too lazy to research and defend your argument but conveniently make conclusions based on the "perhapses" of your mind. Gawd balboa, even the fictional Rocky had more brains than that.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

"Like all libs"?

"Like all libs"? Come on now.

Michael Moore = Ann Coulter = Rosie O'Donnell = Sean Hannity. Idiocy is not partisan.

Rupert..it says

Rupert it says "like all super-libs". I make a distinction between libs and super-libs.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

And your criticism is based

And your criticism is based on something other than a dislike of Oprah, of course. How silly of me...

Of course..

Of course...glad you have joined the sensible race : )

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

I'm saying you don't know you

I'm saying you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. Since the blacks took over South Africa, corruption, bribery, graft, racism, and crime have gone up through the roof. There are plenty o' opportunites for blacks and not for whites. The whites that remain in South Africa have been either very upper class, old and infirmed, or necessary to run the infrastructure. Middle class and poor whites have had to leave to find opportunites. Oprah has her head up her big fat booty.

"The blacks"? I

"The blacks"? I don't think we're supposed to call them that anymore. "Colored folks" is also now off-limits. :)

Michael Moore = Ann Coulter = Rosie O'Donnell = Sean Hannity. Idiocy is not partisan.

According to South Park, &q

According to South Park, "Darkies" is ok.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

SP social etiquette

Right, Cartman is the new arbiter of etiquette.

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

Not quite, but "Operat

Not quite, but "Operation: Get Behind the Darkies" did save the world, kind of...

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

It is now Blacks according to the NYT

blacks are now Capitalized

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

The term African-American is RACIST...

The term "African-American" is absolutely racist. It rejects the reality that there are middle-eastern Africans as well as white Africans who for many generations were born and raised in Africa and now reside in America. As well it arrogantly assigns to all blacks, by default (whose default is this?), and assumes that all blacks recognize, by default (again whose default is this?), recognize and accept Africa as their place of genealogical origin. The fact is most people claim one geographical move apart from travels during immigration, as their homeland. For example, hispanics such as those with ancestry from Puerto-Rico will tell you they are Puerto-Rican though they live here in America yet their ancestry can be traced to...Spain.

To classify a black person with such pressumptiveness in refering to them as an African-American is to lend yourself to a level of arrogance seen only in the hate speech of a bigot and racist. Not all blacks, and know one knows how many, assign Africa as a genealogical source and to refer to themselves as "African-American"  and is based purely in racist and pressumptive arrogance and denies them the right to self-identity that is inherently each person's.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

Racist?

Allow I agree with the facts, I do not agree that it is racist. I was thinking more ethno-centric.

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

Racist?

Allow I agree with the facts, I do not agree that it is racist. I was thinking more ethno-centric.

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

So Oprah invested $40 milli

So Oprah invested $40 million in something that's redundant.

s

Hey, Mr. Kafir, are you aware your name in Afrikaans (the language of the Boer) means "nigger"? Your blog name offends the hell out of me. More so because I worked harminously with black south africans for over eight years back in the waning days of apartheid. No one relishes in the killing of other human beings, but much of the world also ignored the genocide of the native population of South Africa for far longer. So spare me.

Okay, I'm starting to have a

Okay, I'm starting to have a mental breakdown with the whole "lib media is evil" meme.

- Is it biased? YES, and unfairly at that.

- Do the owners of the mediacorp and its employees have the right to be biased?  ALSO YES. Because of free speech. Yet, I do believe there is also a case to be made for sedition in the media.

I can't make sense of this anymore. The line was crystal clear before the elections, now it's a liberal despot around every corner.

-PJ

http://www.draftcondi.us/

Not criticizing Oprah here, a

Not criticizing Oprah here, as it is her money, and she can do with it as she pleases, but, I wonder how long it would take Oprah and Al (Roker and Sharpton) and Jesse, et al, to label me as a "racist" if I took several million dollars (which I don't have), hired a lawyer to take the charter for the United Negro College Fund and insert "Caucasian" every place that charter has "Negro", and started the United Caucasian College Fund.  Or, put a want ad in the newspaper with the phrase "Caucasian preference exercised" instead of "Indian preference exercised".

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

Don't do it Mike! You will

Don't do it Mike! You will be cast into a pit of burning crosses and whipped for all eternity with a cat of nine tails!!!!!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

With Oprah What You See Is What You Get: Racism and Sexism

*The use of the words racism and sexism are used as defined by liberal and super-lib social and political commentators and activists but don't represent their actual meaning since even their true definitions are politically incorrect.

With Oprah Winfrey, what you see is what you get, someone who is a racist and a sexist. Oprah, who vigorously campaigns for a color blind society, a culture where one's racial or ethnic identity as well as their gender is almost inconsequential in everyday matters and left mainly for an emphasis on familial banners and genealogical nostalgia, has decided to invest in a school for black girls. Yes, a school for black girls.

Apparently, in Oprah's mind, these disadvantaged girls need special blackness training and all the proper accoutraments that should sorround the female black mind. You see to Oprah, black girls are more valuable and more important than say...the daughters of the white girls that heavily populate her audience, or the hispanic moms that think she is supports them as a minority.

Don't kid yourself for a minute. Oprah likes her white friends and her white female audience, who do you think pays the bills? By keeping strong white associations Oprah is able to psychologically convince herself she is one of them while her typical duplicit personality keeps the black half of Oprah alive and well, often seen in her regressive personality which she reserves when hosting an all black or heavily populated black guested program. She is a chameleon on purpose and not by accident. She cannot bring herself to fully be the black woman she is, instead she exists shamefully so pretending to respect and admire all cultures and lust for diversity and unity. Ha Ha.

In the end Oprah shows us what Oprah is, a bigot. Instead of investing her money in a school where races and ethnicities of all types and boys and girls are mixed and taught the principles of integration she professes to want for all of the world, particularly her own, she does the very opposite. Oprah instead finances a school for black girls. Unable to realize that disadvantaged girls will remain quite disadvantage the longer they are segregated, regardless of their education and unable to realize that there are many whites disadvantage, even in South Africa, Oprah can only see through her bigotted glasses where she must rescue herself once again.

Oprah's narcissism knows no boundaries and is financed by gullible viewers of her program and those that purchase her magazine. Oprah, as I said, is rescuing herself once again and attempting to right whatever wrongs she thinks has been done to her. Natural that one sympathizes with those suffering as they have in the past but hypocritical for Oprah to have failed miserably to have risen above such a selfish persepctive in life, one that she demands so ardently from those she takes issue with both socially and politically.

Of course these are just my opinions and not even spellchecked very well ; ) But hey, maybe I could attend Oprah's school and learn...oh wait I am the wrong race and gender...oops I forgot it is a segregated school that keeps other genders and races out for the benefit of a specific gender and race.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

There was an article a few

There was an article a few months ago about how Oprah gushed that now "all these white people" work for her, and she only has one black employee. It's currently cached on TMZ.com, but I don't know how to put a link in here.

I'm afraid I'm going to hav

I'm afraid I'm going to have to split with some of my conservative friends on this one.

I think Oprah is doing a praiseworthy thing.

Talk of racism is pretty idiotic. Especially as the photo-op I saw had at least one white girl in it.

A couple of random points, because I haven't the time to compose a fully realized response to various criticisms I've picked up from many posters I do respect.

1. There's plenty of evidence that both boys and girls benefit from same-sex school education.

2. Africa in dire need of young women educated to a high standard. To me, it is far better for an individual like the Big O to concentrate of developing a small number high caliber kids who then can become leaders in their society. From small acorns mighty oaks grow. If, and that's my if, they are kept well away from the quasi-Marxist, anti-capitalist crap that has done so much harm to Africa.

3. The most interesting aspect (to me) is the seeming Bill Cosbyization of the Oprah. Maybe her decaration that she has had it with the lack of ambition and sneering "I ain't gonna get no edukashon cos that's whitey" in many black communities, will have a posisive affect in the U.S.

4. I've seen plenty of documentaries and news reports of life in rural Africa. One thing that's always affected me is seeing barefoot kids, in mudhut schools DESPERATE and keen to learn. Anyone investing their own money in helping fulfill that ambition gets kudos from me.

Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex

Jack I believe you are missing the point...

Jack I believe you are missing the point on this. The criticism isn't of Oprah because she has done a good thing but her hypocrisy. She claims to care about the needs of black girls but refuses to address the problem in the very country that she lives. This is the easy way out.

She is more than glad to accept the accolades of being a humanitarian in some other country but what does she do here? Nothing of any consequence regarding the true need of blacks. Why? Because Oprah would have to speak the truth, a truth that is Politically Incorrect and one she cannot reconcile herself with.

The truth is blacks here for the most part have every opportunity as anyone else and more at times but still FAIL too often. Why? Because they choose to and choose mostly on the basis of a RACIST culture that keeps them that way, a culture and mentality by the way, that OPRAH encourages subtly while condeming when she feels arbitrarily lead to for personal benefit. Suspect whitey, love your blackness etc...is the mantra for Oprah to the black masses but magically when it is practiced the results are self-segregation and cultural racism she encourages that keep people back and unable to integrate.

The point is Oprah actually encourages racism and sexism in her own country while claiming to want to cure it somewhere else. She is the worse kind of hypocrite there is and THAT is why she is being criticized. HER HYPOCRISY is being criticized.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

How is she telling people t

How is she telling people to "suspect whitey"?

Balboa....

Balboa, I realize nuances and implicit behavior aren't your specialty and seeing that being a super-lib requires a great deal of dishonesty to yourself about what you see I will forgo the lesson in observation. But thanks for asking.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

In other words, you can't a

In other words, you can't answer the question.

balboa as super-lib?

Never thought of balboa as a super-lib, that would be rhayes, etc. balboa is more of a moderate lib.

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

I appreciate that, dagda. I

I appreciate that, dagda. I mean, I know I can't tell my ass from a hole in the ground, but, "super-lib"? That's just mean. :-)

Balboa, the hole in the gro

Balboa, the hole in the ground isn't covered with hair. :-)

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

MM,You're soooo bad....LMAO!

MM,

You're soooo bad....LMAO!

"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under."  Ronald Reagan

Well it appears...

Well regardless of what HE wants to call himself I prefer the "what you see is what you get" method and right now balboa is thinking and arguing like a super-lib.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

Why try when even the elementary is escaping you...

Balboa, I realize this might seem a bit overly complicated but trust me, a few weeks in Oprah's school for black girls in Africa would even suffice to help you. Yes the question can be answered and has been answered ad nauseum times, again, you are too lazy to do the research to answer the question you are busy lying to yourself about regarding the answer. If this troubles you a second semester in "Oprah U" will be required. Sorry you choose to be dunced a second time but there is hope in Africa....hahahahahahaha....nit wit, but keep trying you might actually stumble upon a fact or two, but of course you would have to research your own questions first and pretend to care about finding answers.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

I googled "oprah tells

I googled "oprah tells blacks to suspect whitey" and didn't get anything very interesting, except an article where 50 Cent claims Oprah is an oreo cookie. Now, ordinarily I'd be more than willing to accept the wisdom of "Fitty," I'm looking for your guidance.

You googled Oprah...wow what a research genius...

Wow...what research...a google...phew kuddos to you and Susanne Somers for your excellent in the field of information gathering...a google...wow who wudda thunk. And one goggle to boot. Nothing additional just one singular phrase, boy that'll get ya result eh? Good Lord save us from these geniuses already!

But since you are such a googler...why not google "Oprah Winfey is a racist" or "Oprah Winfrey is a sexist" Or "Is Oprah Winfrey a bigot" and so on and the "IMPLICIT" (crazy and confusing word I know but there are dictionary sources online also) racist and distrust of whitey promoted by Winfrey...well I am sure will magically show up. But wait, those websites won't count cuz they don't agree with your starting premise....right I know the routine...oops I forgot back to lying to yourself about what is right in front of you.  Sorry.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

I'll do "Guy Arthur Th

I'll do "Guy Arthur Thomas' Center for Oprah Criticism" next.

Anything but deal with the challenge...

Anything but deal with the challenge, typical super-lib response. But since you are volunteering yes, I am accepting funds and am glad to start the organization, but then I won't actually accept your word of support since when it gets a bit hot you tend to duck out the back door, but hey, at least you aren't dishonoring your super-lib colors by accepting the challenging, staying on topic and fighting the fight, that would be too principled for you and so...you are indeed par for the course but consistent I will say.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

Hey, I was the one that ask

Hey, I was the one that asked you to back up your claims, and you've refused to do so. Why should I do research to back up your claim?

Okay balboa...

Balboa, "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" Here is your lesson today son. You are impressed with googling...good, google on, it has its benefits. Obviously you are limited in your understanding of googling. Typing in a singular phrase yields limited information. You will need to type in, as I have already instructed, "Oprah is a racist" "Oprah is a sexist" "Oprah is a bigot" and maybe even "Oprah hates whitey" (I don't think that is necessary but hey give it a whirl). You will have at your fingertips and before your eyes a great deal of information to read and go through, far more than is practical or realistic to expect to be posted on a message board or text forum.

Secondly use on online dictionary and look up the word implicit, it will also have the world in the form of a modifier so you will understand it being used in that context. Remember I used that word as a qualifier in my argument, remember? Think Balboa, there ya go, good boy.

Now, I know the fact of Oprah being a bigot in the form of a racist and sexist is true but you don't, or at least cannot bring yourself to see what is at least implictly observable (oops there is that implicit word again). But now you have the opportunity for discovery. I have shown you how to find what you are looking for. Obviously with you being a super-lib you want me to not only show you but do your work for you and then you live off of the benefits of my work. Sorry, I don't cater to suckers like you. However, if you are sincere and want to know, it is there.

I have opened your eyes as to how to google beyond a singular phrase and trust that you have enough competency to read this and excitedly begin your journey. If not, well stay stupid and keep crying, I am sure some mommy-lib soon will come by to put a diaper on you and tell you what a bad man I am for not doing your homework.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

I agree with you and with the

I agree with you and with the posts that state the obvious, It's her money, she can do whatever she likes (as long as it is legal) with it.  I have no complaint with anyone trying to make the world a better place, one kid at a time.

I do have a problem with the idea that no one has any business questioning her.  Everyone in the public arena is questioned, she is no better than all the rest....and by the way, I think she is tough enough to take it.

I never watch TV, ergo I never watch her show, but I have seen the Color Purple and thought she did a great job.  I know her politics are different then mine, but she has a completely different perspective then I do being a self-made rich black woman vs a self-made middle class white man.

Not this conservative friend Jack

"I'm afraid I'm going to have to split with some of my conservative friends on this one."

Not this conservative friend Jack.  I agree 100%.

Take Oprah out of the equasion and I don't think any conservative could find fault with your points.  In fact, I would encourage Oprah to permanently stay in SA.  Obviously, she is doing something much more worthwhile in SA, than she achieves creating American victims on her TV show here.  In other words I prefer her walking the walk vs. her talking the talk.

Africa will become a significant player (demography, population, resources, etc) in the future.  Better the Oprahs of the world building schools in Africa, than  Islamic militants building madrassas or silly liberals offering midnight-basketball solutions.  And that being the choice, I agree with your assessment that Africans desire the former.  It is far past time for the rest of the world to catch up intellectually with most of the developed world. The alternative is the prolonged savagery we witness everyday in the Middle East which seems to rival oil as the primary export.

Sorry but this is just plain stupid...

Sorry acumen but this is just plain stupid, "Take Oprah out of the equasion and I don't think any conservative could find fault with your points". (sic)

Oprah IS THE EQUATION! If you take OPRAH out of the equation you have no relevant article. How many friggin' times does someone have to say this isn't about the school or the goodness of the act but the HYPOCRISY. Sheesh. The criticisms, NOT ONE OF THEM, are about helping Africa or the students but the DUPLICITY OF OPRAH.

I understand your sentiment about Oprah permanently going to Africa but even on that point I contend your premise that she would help. Oprah Winfrey is as big a racist as it gets when it comes to favorable treatment for those she identifies with and desires cultural emphasis for. The formula for success that Oprah personally benefits from is generally a white, non-socialist, free enterprise system that she magically has forgotten or dismissed in her mind, and isn't embrace or generally wanted by blacks in Africa. They prefer a communal situation with limited free enterprise and strong state regulation. She is the exception to the rule fooling herself that it isn't so. Even in America where freedom is greatest blacks have been reluctant to move from a communal mentality to one of independence. Winfrey's success has many contributors along the way and much of it had to do with a capitalistic system...a free enterprise system...that was created and brought to health by a very western philosophy that she now shuns and pretends will magically work in socialistically minded black Africans.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

'Guy - Conserrvative Thought Cop Extraordinaire

"Sorry acumen but this is just plain stupid..."

In my many comments on NB I have never claimed to be the brightest bulb in the knife drawer Guy, so no apology necessary.

"Oprah IS THE EQUATION! 

Maybe to Guy Oprah is the equation, but certainly not more than a small PART of Jack's 4 points (equation) to which I was responding - i.e.; "I don't think any conservative could find fault with your (Jack) points".  If you reread my comments they address some of Jack's 4 points, not the article or for that matter, your point of view on the article.  Al Roker doing lib-speak?  Been there, done that.  What more could I possibly offer on the article?  Oprah touting her benevolence on TV. Yet again?  Guy dissing Oprah. Whatever.  However, Jack made some very significant points to which I responded.  I will post my response below once again to those fine points. Obviously you got so worked up at my defense of Jack's points you failed to acknowledge them when responding to my comment. Please tell me which items below you have a problem with and I will be happy to make a correction:

"Africa will become a significant player (demography, population, resources, etc) in the future.  Better the Oprahs of the world building schools in Africa, than  Islamic militants building madrassas or silly liberals offering midnight-basketball solutions.  And that being the choice, I agree with your assessment that Africans desire the former.  It is far past time for the rest of the world to catch up intellectually with most of the developed world. The alternative is the prolonged savagery we witness everyday in the Middle East which seems to rival oil as the primary export.

".....If you take OPRAH out of the equation you have no relevant article."

I thought I made it clear that by writing "I don't think any conservative could find fault with your (Jack) points"  I was addressing Jacks points, not the relevancy of the article or your comments regarding the article.  If you will carefully reread Jack's 4 points you will note that 3 of the 4 points Jack offers have nothing to do with Oprah or the article.  Hence my use of "your (Jack) points" instead of Oprah or Roker's points. 

"Sheesh. The criticisms, NOT ONE OF THEM, are about helping Africa or the students but the DUPLICITY OF OPRAH."

I have no idea what criticisms you are talking about.  Please enlighten me. Once again if you go back and read my comment you will not find any mention by me of any specific real or imagined criticisms.  I was not addressing the article or any criticisms you might have of Oprah - only "your (Jack) points".  I don't have a horse in that race Guy - for the time being.

The rest of your response has nothing to do with my comments.  To respond would only serve to assist you in moving the discussion away from the purpose of my original comments of supporting Jack's points and that was never my intention.

And finally we come to - "If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal."

Although I don't support the concept of conservative thought police, I'm going to have to call you on this one Guy.  After all, having reread my post, that's quite a leap.  So what is your issue Guy?  Was it my desire that Oprah stay in SA and continue to walk the walk?  Or was it my support of wealthy Americans rather than Islamic terrorists building schools for Africans?  Was it my outlandish desire that the rest of the world catch up on an intellectual level with the developed world?   Perhaps it was my desire to not see Africa become the next safe country from which terrorists can export their hatred directed to all those that don't agree with their opinions that set you off.....it is plain to see how you would get defensive about the topic of abhorring differing opinions.  But you tell me - would you be so kind as to offer just one quote from my original reply to Jack that has disgraced myself and conservatism?  I didn't think so.

Thanks acumen...

Well time to go out to dinner with my lovely so my response will have to wait but thanks for your lengthy post and weighty thoughts and I certainly will not dismiss it but devote an appropriate response after dinner. Thanks.

If you claim to be a conservative, please don't disgrace yourself and conservatism by thinking and arguing like a liberal.

Thanks acumen, you got my p

Thanks acumen, you got my point perfectly.

And that's not alleged "hypocrisy" on Oprah's part. I'm no great fan of her or her show, neither am I a detractor of her TV efforts. I never watch the lady.

I'm only commenting on this particular venture from a conservative perspective. And I have always thought the self-reliance, charitable giving, making the most of an education, striving to better oneself have been virtues.

So on the scale of things, Oprah done good.

The fact that she may or may not impress conservatives in other matters is irrelevant to the 150 girls she's helping.

Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex

acumen...

Dinner was great and now for dessert. You state no conservative could find fault (meaningly justifiably so I assume) with any of Jack's points. What points? His points are quite general and fail to address the objections of racism.

1. Same sex-education benefits boys and girls. Okay fine but so does both sexes in school benefit each other. That has nothing to do with the hypocrisy of Winfrey in setting up a school for a specific gender when she double speaks about equality while promoting gender segregation.

2.Africa needs educated young women. So? So does every nation. And the idea that they are going to grow into oaks is an ambitious goal for these girls but they won't get anywhere outside of this hothouse of artificial obstacles and "movie star" surroundings. Kept away from Marxist doctrine...ha, Winfrey might not be a Marxist but she is quite socialistic and just a few doors down. She just prefers a matriarchal form of socialism, a kinder gentler Marxism.

3. Oprah hasn't been Bill Cosbied anything if you ask me. She refuses to confront the very problems of her own people. Her people are here, in the United States. She is dishonorable and undevoted to "her people" so she conveniently chooses another people that look like her to claim as the ones that care for her. Why? Not because she is brave enough like Bill Cosby to address the problem and try and do something about it but because she is a coward who has chosen to find a very VULNERABLE group to manipulate and who will praise her whom she doesn't have to give hard medicine to.

4. There are plenty of kids everywhere eager to learn. I am glad these kids will get to learn, good for them. No one is criticizing that. They are criticizing her bigotry and hypocrisy. But simply because kids wish to learn are we to select who deserves it and who doesn't based on race and gender? Isn't this the very form of segregation she rails about all the time. The idea that blacks must be trained to lead Africa is even more racist. There are many whites in Africa and viewing it as a black continent or that its countries should be ruled by blacks is racist as well, the very kind of racism that Winfrey has decried many times regarding her own exp