And here I thought Chris Matthews reserved his hardballs for his guests, not his colleagues . . .
To use one of Imus's favorite phrases, there are "tension conventions" breaking out all over MSNBC today. Earlier, I noted the shots Andrea Mitchell took at Nancy Pelosi over her "unseemly, imperial" celebrations marking her ascension to the speakership.
Later, things got a bit ugly between Chris Matthews Matt Lauer over the funding of the war in Iraq. It was a very rare display of real anger between fellow members of the NBC/MSNBC stable. Alluding to President Bush's speech of yesterday calling for the Democrats to avoid the kind of politics that will lead to stalemates, Lauer asked Matthews:
"What kind of stalemate are we going to see over Iraq in Congress?"
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Matthews: "The question is whether the Democrats will stand up to the President if they disagree with him, or whether they try to finesse the issue. The signals we're getting today from Carl Levin, the Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, are that they're going to try to finesse this. They're going to say 'well, Mr. President, you can have your troop surge in Baghdad of 30,000 more American soldiers going into the fight if we can get some kind of committment from you that we will reduce the overall number of troops over the next year or so. My sense is that the President will let the Democrats believe that there'll be an overall reduction in troops but never commit to it."
Lauer: "Well, but, you say they're going to try to finesse it. In reality, Chris, they don't have a choice. What are they going to do, suggest they cut funding while troops are still in the ground in Iraq? They can't do that."
That got Matthews's Irish up. Clearly flashing some anger, he responded: "Well, that's a political assessment by you, Matt. I think the Democrats have to decide whether they want to climb aboard this catastrophe or not."
Matthews later struck a more conciliatory tone with Lauer, but the initial anger was unmistakable. All these frayed nerves among MSM types remind me of the kind of spats that often break out in families at the time of momentous events - weddings, funerals and the like. And after all, the MSM is like a member of the family when it comes to today's big occasion of the retaking of power by the Democrats.
Mark was in Iraq in November. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.




















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chrisi limpdick vs matt lauer
January 4, 2007 - 14:22 ET by buddycchrisi limpdick vs matt lauer. wow, i would pay to see that. will it be on MTV celebrity wrestling?
And when did Matthews start
January 4, 2007 - 14:23 ET by SMGalbraithAnd when did Matthews start criticizing NBC figures for making political assessments? Every other sentence out of his mouth is a political one, for crissakes. Not to mention the rest of the "reporters" for the network.
Bizarre.
Doesn't Matthews realize that
January 4, 2007 - 14:28 ET by Chris NormanDoesn't Matthews realize that getting nasty with an NBC star will hurt him where all the bilious things he's ever said about President Bush and Republicans don't? When he becomes totally unhinged on this subject, his self-preservation instincts must fly out the window....
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
The kettle's black, Matthews.
January 4, 2007 - 14:31 ET by Gary HallYou just have to love this:
"I think the Democrats have to decide whether they want to climb aboard this catastrophe or not." So, that's not a political assessment by you, Chris?
THE POT CALLS THE KETTLE BLACK
Great point.
January 4, 2007 - 14:39 ET by Mark FinkelsteinGreat point.
how easy does it get, Mark?
January 4, 2007 - 14:42 ET by Gary HallHow easy does it get, Mark? (;~>
its kind of funny that matt l
January 4, 2007 - 14:38 ET by pmohbuckits kind of funny that matt lauer is all the sudden a MSM political pundit ... he is obviously out of his league and needs to return to his main job of being a male version of katie couric and focus on the spring wedding season. some suggestions for the next segment of "where in the world is matt lauer":
1. iraq ... anywhere outside the green zone where there is a minimal us military presence.
2. inside any active volcano
3. left and forgotten inside any state penitentiary
4. serving as a toilet paper holder in ted kennedy's personal bathroom
5. attempting to prove global warming by being left in antarctica with only shorts and a t-shirt
... as for matthews ... only a stocked buffet can shut that bloated windbag down
Chris is probably still sma
January 4, 2007 - 14:40 ET by balboaChris is probably still smarting from Lauer's "elitist" New Year's Eve comments! Are you with me people!?
More likely he is still &qu
January 4, 2007 - 14:59 ET by MightyMouthMore likely he is still "smarting" from his New Year's eve haymaker with Olbermann. Those two make such a great couple, dontcha think?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Mark - I don't think Lauer
January 4, 2007 - 14:49 ET by Dee BunkMark - I don't think Lauer really disagrees with Matthews, he was just doing is job for once. It's hard to recognize because we are used to him not grilling Democrats. He may think twice next time with Matthews now that he realized he upset him. He doesn't want to get the Chris Wallace treatment or miss out on party invitations. Matt is too cool for that. ; )
Don't know if you watched t
January 4, 2007 - 14:55 ET by Mark FinkelsteinDon't know if you watched the segment but there's no doubt in my mind that Lauer was expressing his own opinion when he said that "in reality" the Dems don't have a choice and can't cut funding while troops are in Iraq.
Mark - I didn't watch it -
January 4, 2007 - 15:06 ET by Dee BunkMark - I didn't watch it - never do anymore. Your reports are good enough for me. Glad to hear that Lauer can think for himself and have an intelligent thought.
I'm gratified by your confi
January 4, 2007 - 15:16 ET by Mark FinkelsteinI'm gratified by your confidence. Please do have a look at the video that MRC has kindly added, and see what you think.
From what I understand, right
January 4, 2007 - 14:56 ET by RunningBeerFrom what I understand, right now the Dims don't have any say on funding for Irag. The 2007 budget is already in place so Sept would be the earliest Dims could cut funding. That and I'm sure Bush would veto any bill that attempted to derail Iraq. Anyone know for sure?
That is correct, the 2007 bu
January 4, 2007 - 16:11 ET by dscottThat is correct, the 2007 budget is set. There is one caveat: If the surge needs a special appropriation to fund it, then the Dems are on the hot seat if they oppose it or favor it. Delicious!!!! Now, the military budget may be flexible enough that they could spend the money up front for the surge and then cut something else to pay for it, that I'm not sure of but it would be an excellent opportunity to cut a pork barrel project IMO.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
This will all be funny to wat
January 4, 2007 - 17:03 ET by cunservatyveThis will all be funny to watch, because I've always felt that the Democrats' main point behind the criticisms of the war in Iraq (and Bush's terror war in general) had nothing to do with the actual war and EVERYTHING to do with regaining power.
Now, you're going to see them all run the other way and spin it like "we must do something about terror." They all know it; it's obvious they all felt the same way about Iraq and Saddam as far back as the mid-90s, which the media refuses to mention anymore (they whistle and roll their eyes hoping that history will go away). Since they're the ones conveniently covering the present and recent past, the recent inconvenient evidence that they supported being rid of Saddam does conveniently go away, because they never replay those old press conferences where people like Kerry were shouting about Saddam and doing something about him!
What's going to be fun is watching the rising ultra-left in their party (the Sheehan types) flop around like fish out of water; we've already seen it just the other day when their news conference was taken over by the nutjobs, including Sheehan. The real Democrats (those who are trying to walk the line of "moderation" to hold power and possibly regain the presidency) are going to have to spin all this carefully; let's see if the media plays along like the biased little donkey chorus that they are.
The Democrats now in power are going to have to fight viciously against Islamic fundamentalism to impress the security skeptics for future elections (or at least appear to fight hard), while at the same time professing pacifism for their wacko base whenever they can find a spot to fit it in. The real yin-yang is soon to appear.
Cunservatyve military medical guy
If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul's vote!
"What's going to be fu
January 4, 2007 - 22:48 ET by ckc1227"What's going to be fun is watching the rising ultra-left in their party (the Sheehan types) flop around like fish out of water; we've already seen it just the other day when their news conference was taken over by the nutjobs, including Sheehan."
Speaking of this news conference, did you see how quickly these guys "cut and run" when confronted by those nutjobs? Makes you wonder what will happen once they're confronted with a legitimate enemy.
Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
January 5, 2007 - 08:11 ET by blackrain4xmasCLASSIC!
Matt Lauer argues that Dems can't use the same tactic they used to end the Vietnam war to end the Iraq War, and Chris Matthews tries to take the position that they can, and that somehow pulling the rug out from under the troops is a GOOD path for America to take. After all, just look at how respected America was after the Dems cut funding for Vietnam. I've got two words for Chris Matthews when it comes to the intelligence and morality of using that tactic:
KILLING FIELDS
Face it Chris, you've been pwned by your own pandering political party, lied to by lawyers, and you don't have the balls to face the reality of it.