This mot surprise you, my friend; but I haven't carried on a debate. My posts are usually rebuttals of somebody's wacked-out tirade or pretentiousness.

You don't have to read everything I contribute. You'll discern my opinion on any single post where we speak of the hispanic voter, the illegal alien, or Mexico vs. the U.S. It's never complicated. Mostly I object when Spanish-speaking people suffer denigration and hate-speech on account of their ethnic origins. I do not defend law-breakers per se. I approve of a secure border. But I scoff at the idea of border fences and attacks on unarmed illegals.

I also flatly deny they are "costing taxpayers B-b-bill--ion-n-ns". That, to me is a myth sold to create anger and hatred in our American communities. It's OVERKILL. It strokes the racist tummies of hundreds who create trouble everywhere; even here in these threads.

The ends do NOT justify the means, anyway. For instance, I could not condone casting falsified votes by a non-citizen, not even if it were to win the Presidency itself. One man, one vote--legally. You may look into every one of my statements here, and i'll never promote the acceptance of a status quo merely to enlarge our illegal population. I say do something truly reasonable about illegal immigration. And I also face the regrettable fact that all too many illegals are just impossible to root out and deport. It's taken years, but these offenders have succeeded in a fait accompli.

But not by themselves. They were helped by the thousands of employers in our country letting them earn wages for the menial work they all are willing to accept. LOW wages which are nevertheless much better than what they could earn in Mexico. And for this I can hardly blame them. To be honest, I don't even blame Mexico; because economically there's not much the gov't there can do about it. It's a third world economy. You can hate them, but that won't alter the economy.

And this, at bottom, is the reason hispanics and Mexican Americans of good will resent seeing them blatantly discriminated against and treated like filth. Our hearts are with them, we feel a solidarity you may not understand (not all of us; but the majority of Latins). Many will even aid and abet a poor family. I won't because they came here with the strict understanding that the U.S. is NOT their country. They have a country. My duty is to my country, theirs isn't. It's to their wives and children in dire need. So, you see, I'm torn between my country and the Mexicans' dependence on our help. Nobody yet is helping the situation. Especially not by breeding hatred.

I read the article-- I don't care what the evidence is, it was created by white supremacists like misterbill. My illegal friends have deep family values. Shame on you for even reading an article like that. The next thing you know you will be reading all those other lies about crime and drunken unlicensed drivers, and braceros spreading feces on lettuce and spinach. When will you stop, you terrible hater. LOL LOL LOL (TFYYAH)

PS It really did not cost my county very much money for allthose illegal births. We estimate if we raise the RE tax by 20 mils it will cover it.

sarc off-- good facts ckc. But you know they will be dismissed by senor coyote.