No good deed goes unpunished?
Fallout from the execution of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein still dominates the New York Times, and it's not just conservatives who see some definite themes emerging from the massive coverage.
Slate's "Today's Papers" column noticed even back on Sunday:
"TP couldn't help but pick up on the distinct strain of grudging admiration that ran through the NYT's coverage of Hussein's trip to the gallows. An early edition of the paper's lead story said that although the witnesses it interviewed were enemies of the dictator, 'their accounts of the execution were redolent of respect for the way in which their former tormentor died.' The final edition version of the story omits the prior passage but says the widely broadcast videotape of the event suggested that he 'lived his final moments with unflinching dignity and courage, reinforcing the legend of himself as the Arab world's strongman.' An accompanying front-page piece about the dictator's final moments relates that he 'looked strong, confident and calm." A fitting final performance, I suppose, for a master propagandist.'"
Indeed, Andy McCarthy collected several examples from the Times of strange coverage of Hussein's execution at National Review Online's "The Corner."
Here's an extended excerpt from McCarthy:
"There is, naturally, 'Around the World, Unease And Criticism of Penalty,' by Alan Cowell, typical of which is this drivel from Tim Hames, of the Times of London: 'Mainstream middle-class sentiment in Europe now regards the death penalty as being as ethically tainted as the crimes that produced the sentence.' Of course, this reflects -- and could only reflect -- not the sentiment of the mainstream middle-class but of elite opinion in Europe, particularly of transnational progressive intellectuals who long for a post-sovereign Euro-state. Commonsense people, even those uneasy about or opposed to capital punishment, have no difficulty distinguishing the evil behind the crime and their reservations about the punishment. It is only the intelligentsia, which questions the very existence of 'evil,' that consequently finds itself without a compass for such moral and ethical distinctions.
"But the stand-out is Hassan M. Fattah's story, under the inane headline: 'For Arab Critics, Hussein's Execution Symbolizes the Victory of Vengeance Over Justice'. Memo to the Times: First, very often, vengeance is justice; that is why the most civilized societies (those based on ordered liberty) demand that the punishment fit the crime. Second, this is an especially counterintuitive headline and theme for a story that purports to convey the cultural sense of the Islamic world (indeed, a story illustrated with a depiction of thousands of 'pilgrims' in Mena, Saudi Arabia, observing the Eid)."
[End of excerpt]
Then there was Sabrina Tavernise's "news analysis" on Monday, "For Sunnis, Dictator's Degrading End Signals Ominous Dawn for the New Iraq."
Tavernise began:
"For Sunni Arabs here, the ugly reality of the new Iraq seemed to crystallize in a two-minute segment of Saddam Hussein's hanging, filmed surreptitiously on a cellphone….It was supposed to be a formal and solemn proceeding carried out by a dispassionate state. But the grainy recording of the execution's cruel theater summed up what has become increasingly clear on the streets of the capital: that the Shiite-led government that assumed power in the American effort here is running the state under an undisguised sectarian banner....It was a degrading end for a vicious leader, and an ominous beginning for the new Iraq. The Bush administration has already scaled back its hopes for a democracy here. But as the Iraqi government has become ever more set on protecting its Shiite constituency, often at the expense of the Sunni minority, the goal of stopping the sectarian war seems to be slipping out of reach."
Here's some of Jeff Zeleny's front-page "news analysis," "Joys of Capture Muted at End -- Grim Realities in Iraq Alter the Tone for Bush."
"Now, what could have been a triumphal bookend to the American invasion of Iraq has instead been dampened by the grim reality of conditions on the ground there. Mr. Hussein’s hanging means that the ousted leader has been held accountable for his misdeeds, fulfilling the American war aim most cited by the White House after Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction proved nonexistent.
"But that war is now edging toward its fifth year, and the sectarian violence that has surged independent of any old Sunni or Baathist allegiances to Mr. Hussein has raised questions about what change, if any, his death might bring."
Wednesday's lead story by John Burns and James Glanz continued finding the downside to the death of the dictator: "Iraq To Examine Abusive Conduct Toward Hussein."
"Iraq's Shiite-led government said Tuesday that it had ordered an investigation into the abusive behavior at the execution of Saddam Hussein, who was subjected to a battery of taunts by official Shiite witnesses and guards as he awaited his hanging.
"Officials said a three-man Interior Ministry committee would look into the scenes that have caused outrage and public demonstrations among Mr. Hussein’s Sunni Arab loyalists in Iraq, and widespread dismay elsewhere, especially in the Middle East. In an unofficial cellphone video recording that was broadcast around the world and posted on countless Web sites, Mr. Hussein is shown standing on the gallows platform with the noose around his neck at dawn on Saturday, facing a barrage of mockery and derision from unseen tormentors below the gallows."
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—Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times.















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All right, if you must, go
January 3, 2007 - 17:17 ET by Red JeepAll right, if you must, go ahead, those of you that didn’t like the manner in how Saddam was hanged, dig him up and give him a proper hanging. Fine with me. Just make sure to put Saddam back where you got him from when you are done.
Are you saying we can dig him
January 3, 2007 - 17:24 ET by bassndudeAre you saying we can dig him up and play with him? So long as we pick up our toys after?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Yes! Seriously I wonder if
January 3, 2007 - 18:31 ET by Red JeepYes! Seriously I wonder if people like John Burns and James Glanz how viciously they would be killed by people like Saddam. The attempt to blame how this execution took place on the US or President Bush angers me greatly.
I don't think the Times cov
January 4, 2007 - 12:18 ET by Rupert CadellI don't think the Times coverage implied that at all. Maybe I missed something crucial, but I thought they placed the blame squarely on the hierarchy and hubris of the Iraq gov't. In fact, that the US ultimately left the decision up to Iraq was something that the NYT admitted was ultimately positive. I think Friedman's op/ed nailed it; we need to wash our hands of the Iraqi gov't if this is the way they're going to conduct themselves. Hussein's hanging had all the elements of a Stalinist spectacle-execution. I don't care how brutal Hussein's crimes were, we're better than that.
Michael Moore = Ann Coulter = Rosie O'Donnell = Sean Hannity. Idiocy is not partisan.
Rupert....How utterly "E
January 4, 2007 - 12:31 ET by donsalesRupert....
How utterly "European" of you.......
Yes we can and yes we must if we are to defeat terrorism here and abroad......
Take your pacificity to Canada if you like....you'll fit in there.....in fact, France needs good men like you......
Nowhere to Run....Nowhere To Hide.....
I lived in Paris til I was
January 4, 2007 - 12:37 ET by Rupert CadellI lived in Paris til I was 8....it's almost like you knew. I'm not really sure what part of my post you're critiquing, but to give my loyalty oath, I'm glad Saddam is dead. But I'm sorry, the way it was done was disgraceful. Too bad some moron didn't film it on his camera-phone and give the Sunni loyalists an excuse for more violence.
Michael Moore = Ann Coulter = Rosie O'Donnell = Sean Hannity. Idiocy is not partisan.
I'm glad Saddam is dead.
January 4, 2007 - 12:41 ET by Jack BauerI'm glad Saddam is dead. But I'm sorry, the way it was done was disgraceful.
Sure, and I bet you're still all cut up about the way they treated Mussollini.
Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex
Hmm, touche.Michael Moore =
January 4, 2007 - 12:44 ET by Rupert CadellHmm, touche.
Michael Moore = Ann Coulter = Rosie O'Donnell = Sean Hannity. Idiocy is not partisan.
Wow. Shortest gym visit in
January 4, 2007 - 12:47 ET by Jack BauerWow. Shortest gym visit in history.
Matches my smallest violin in history, playing it now for Saddam.
Proud member of the all-powerful and vast militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex
What, one push-up doesn't c
January 4, 2007 - 12:50 ET by Rupert CadellWhat, one push-up doesn't count? Alright alright, NOW I'm going.
Michael Moore = Ann Coulter = Rosie O'Donnell = Sean Hannity. Idiocy is not partisan.
Executions are NEVER pretty..
January 4, 2007 - 12:42 ET by donsalesExecutions are NEVER pretty......simple stuff.....glad to hear you've signed an oath of loyalty to this country....it does my heart good......
Nowhere to Run....Nowhere To Hide.....
rupert is now 12
January 4, 2007 - 12:47 ET by tumbler_2007Rupert, the Parisian on vacation is now 12; and shows an astounding grasp of political sciences and cultural diversity.
tumbler..good morning Mr tu
January 4, 2007 - 12:54 ET by ww thumpertumbler..good morning Mr tumbler....reading all the way to the bottom of this page; Rupert sounds like a " drive by TROLL" :-/ ww Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......WW
wow, um glad you told me
January 4, 2007 - 13:08 ET by tumbler_2007yes.
Oh, really? We're better th
January 4, 2007 - 14:21 ET by UnsaneOh, really? We're better than that? Be happy I wasn't running the show. I would have had Saddam have a seat in The Chair while "Ride The Lightning" played.
You seem to not realize that in order for democracies to survive, it requires, on occasion, extreme nastiness inflicted upon others who might threaten it. You may get squeamish when dealing with it but it is a sad, painful fact of life I have LONG since gotten used to.
Besides, it was the Iraqis that strung him up, not us, in the end.
"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???." - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)
Like my dad used to say: &quo
January 3, 2007 - 17:24 ET by MightyMouthLike my dad used to say: "It's easier to apologize than ask permission."
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
They say that in the military
January 4, 2007 - 12:54 ET by Eric TurnerThey say that in the military all the time too (at least I did before I retired). Anyway, I think those were Custer's words before he said, "Let's go attack that indian village."
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"Perpetual itching without benefit of scratching to the enemies of America." - July 4th toast during the Revolution
....fulfilling the American w
January 3, 2007 - 17:31 ET by Dave R....fulfilling the American war aim most cited by the White House after Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction proved nonexistent.
Jeff Zeleny is lying through his keyboard.
The America-hating MSM is going to do everything in their power to diminish the fact that justice finally caught up to Saddam.
Bush cannot win with these simpletons, no matter what he does. Why he continues to play nice with them is a total mystery to me.
WMD Found Hanging from Rope i
January 4, 2007 - 12:15 ET by donsalesWMD Found Hanging from Rope in Iraq
(2006-12-30) — The Pentagon announced this morning that a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) was found today in Baghdad, hanging from a rope on a platform.
“This particular WMD,” a Pentagon spokesman said, “is known to have killed thousands of Iraqis, as well as Iranians, Kuwaitis and some U.S. troops.”
The weapon is described as “a nasty, corrosive agent which kills indiscriminately and without warning.”
“A lot of folks — including Hans Blix, the United Nations and the Democrats — said there were no WMD in Iraq,” the Pentagon source said. “Perhaps they were just looking in all the wrong places.”
According to Iraqi government sources, the WMD has been contained, neutralized and prepared for burial.
Nowhere to Run....Nowhere To Hide.....
donsales...Great post .. I ag
January 4, 2007 - 12:59 ET by ww thumperdonsales...Great post .. I agree 110% :^} (bratt smile) ww Being "Politcaly Correct" with ISLAM will distroy America......WW
What's all the bitchin' about
January 3, 2007 - 17:38 ET by MightyMouthWhat's all the bitchin' about? They hung him with a new rope, didn't they?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
And provided a cloth to pre
January 3, 2007 - 19:13 ET by Red JeepAnd provided a cloth to prevent rope burn.
grammmar school
January 3, 2007 - 17:44 ET by iveseenitallIn Catholic grammar school I got an "F" for "abusive conduct". I was a bad little boy.
ISIA me too!
January 3, 2007 - 17:46 ET by misterbillISIA me too! And I was the only one in the room at the time!
MB--did you get the ruler acr
January 3, 2007 - 17:50 ET by iveseenitallMB--did you get the ruler acroos your fingers too? I did.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
I was careful
January 3, 2007 - 18:02 ET by misterbillI only messed up about every two weeks, so I got the ruler on the palm. The really bad boys got it across the back of the knuckles. (I am cringing as I type this because I remember watching the nun lay it on.)
Right
January 3, 2007 - 18:20 ET by iveseenitallRight--it REALLY hurt. But it stopped me ( for a while).
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
It was a degrading end for a
January 3, 2007 - 17:48 ET by taznarAnd there's a problem with that?
As I posted the day of the hanging, I feel no "joy" about his death, but I have no problem with it either. If it was somehow seen as "degrading" to some, that's just too bad. Where was their voice when he was committing his crimes?
Saddam deserved to die but wh
January 3, 2007 - 18:18 ET by NoMoreClintonsSaddam deserved to die but what bothers me is that it was done in such an un-American way. For a condemned man to be heckled and jeered at the moment of his death - no matter what he did in life - is an affront to basic human dignity and would never be permitted in our country, and with good reason. If you have seen the video AND the audio together it is truly disturbing - even for this conservative guy. Say what you want about Saddam, he went to his death like a man while those heckling him acted like hooligans and school children. If we believe in our Constitution and the prohibition against "cruel and unusal punishment" then this cannot be condoned in any way no matter what your political stance.
"un-American way"Wi
January 3, 2007 - 18:24 ET by MightyMouth"un-American way"
With all due respect. He wasn't killed in America or by Americans.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
This is true, but judged by o
January 3, 2007 - 18:36 ET by NoMoreClintonsThis is true, but judged by our American standards of civility this was unacceptable and we as Americans should not be gloating about it lest we descend to the "standards" of these people.
Besides, these hecklers were chanting the name of al-Sader or whatever his name is - a guy who has killed hundreds of our troops. Unacceptable.
"we as Americans should
January 3, 2007 - 18:43 ET by MightyMouth"we as Americans should not be gloating about it, lest we descend to the 'standards of these people"
To me that is something different than what the original post is about. It was about the circumstances of his death. I feel perfectly fine with "gloating" or being happy that he is gone, just as I did when they executed Ted Bundy. It doesn't make me un-american.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I think we are all happy he i
January 3, 2007 - 18:54 ET by NoMoreClintonsI think we are all happy he is gone but it makes me proud to be an American to know we would not treat a condemned man that way seconds before he is to be judged by The Creator.
I hear ya, it does warms my h
January 3, 2007 - 19:00 ET by MightyMouthI hear ya, it does warm my heart to know that no matter what was done to him before meeting his creator will pale in comparison to what will be done after meeting his creator. bad I know... but I will be forgiven for even that thought.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I'm glad he's gone, but I don
January 3, 2007 - 19:02 ET by balboaI'm glad he's gone, but I don't enjoy the blood-thirsty glee with which some people talk about Saddam being executed. He was a horrible, horrible person, but I don't celebrate his death; I celebrate the hope for a better future for Iraq, which I'm not even sure is possible.
Bal, I don't want to label yo
January 3, 2007 - 19:06 ET by MightyMouthBal, I don't want to label you or anything, but "bleeding heart liberal" is at the tip of my tounge.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I just think it's sad to take
January 3, 2007 - 19:11 ET by balboaI just think it's sad to take pleasure in the death of someone else. It doesn't bother me that he's been executed, I don't mind that he was, but the cheerleading...eh.
Gottcha Amigo! You said you w
January 3, 2007 - 19:59 ET by MightyMouthGottcha Amigo! You said you were "glad" to see him go. That could mean "happy", yes?
Well, some of us are more "happy" than others. Some dance and celebrate but, being more subded you are just glad. It's ok, I won't condemn you for being just glad if you won't condemn me for being frikin' estatic, fair enough?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Fair enough. I'll put you dow
January 3, 2007 - 20:37 ET by balboaFair enough. I'll put you down for "ecstatic." :-)
frikin', don't forget frikin'
January 3, 2007 - 21:03 ET by MightyMouthfrikin', don't forget frikin' ecstatic, amigo. :-)
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
MightyMouth Says:Agreed. Th
January 3, 2007 - 20:59 ET by JDWMightyMouth Says:
Agreed. Think about all of the people here who still are unable to realize 9/11. The sympathy for Saddam is pathetic. Why didn't he deserve to die in the same manner in which he tortured so many? He received more facetime over the course of the last three years than anyone in our military who died fighting for our freedom.
JDW
Kerry: "You know, education, if you make the most of it ... you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
I find it hard to view a mons
January 3, 2007 - 21:11 ET by MightyMouthI find it hard to view a monster as human. Since I cannot have sympathy for a monster, I cannot have sympathy for Saddam. In the sense that really counts, he and his sons were not human but monsters.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
So maybe I should reserve jud
January 3, 2007 - 18:27 ET by taznarSo maybe I should reserve judgement -I haven't heard the audio, just descriptions of what it contains. It would be good to get the opinions of a couple people who can actually speak the language too, instead of relying on a single translation.
Well, the truth of the matter
January 3, 2007 - 18:45 ET by JayTeeWell, the truth of the matter was the Americans handed over Saddam to the Iraqi's for execution. If the NYT has a problem with that....as they say in Russia, Tough Shitzkey.
They could have followed some other lead story acts, like the head sawing, and maybe "stoning", but it just couldn't measure of to previous acts. It was an improvement as far as I'm concerned.
Mathews was just making a big
January 3, 2007 - 19:03 ET by JimboMathews was just making a big deal out of the fact that the President hasnt watched the video of Sadaam's execution, saying he was out of touch and actually drew a comparison to Hurricane Katrina. This guy completely without shame and will go beyond reality to tear down the office of the President and this country.
I'm embarassed that he's a Ph
January 3, 2007 - 20:03 ET by NoMoreClintonsI'm embarassed that he's a Philly guy . . . Catholic too, I think. I hope he didn't go to St. Joe's like moi.
JayTee: I thought the Russi
January 4, 2007 - 00:43 ET by MikeBJayTee: I thought the Russian phrase was "Toughski Sh*tski." In Georgia, the home of Josef Stalin, it would have been "Toughski Sh*tski, you all."
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
MikeB
January 4, 2007 - 00:59 ET by BlondeNyet.
It's "Toughinski, Sh*tski, Kidski".
По-Русский
January 4, 2007 - 01:32 ET by UnsaneНет.
Туфский Шитский.
:-)
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
Thanks, for all the correcti
January 4, 2007 - 13:16 ET by JayTeeThanks, for all the corrections on the "Toughski", this one is the most Authenic looking.......
I wonder which will LAST the LONGEST, J. Ford's funeral, or the NY Times coverage of Saddam's "Death by Hanging"....it's gonna be a close one.
What is happening to the crue
January 3, 2007 - 18:27 ET by ucWhat is happening to the cruel theatre of Presidential campaigns. The way the Democrats are looking the world will never be flat for women again (level playing field flat). If Hillary does intent to run for President as a junior senator I do hope she address this concern and lets go of her secret service protection provided past presidents and goes without (even if it might give Bill a heart attack) until such time as candidates would usually earn or not earn secret service protection. How can someone run for President with the protection provided a past President. This is so unfair for every other woman with ambitions for the Presidency as well as every other possible candidate. Don't we want to use the same tests of character we have always used here in America?
How to kill a human-monster
January 4, 2007 - 08:30 ET by blackrain4xmasMy friends and I did the mass media death watch the night before/of his execution, and everyone had their average joe take on how they think a genocidal killer should be dealt with. At the time, my thoughts were not removed from the macabre ideas that they had. However, I got a great idea from watching a re-run of The Twilight Zone the other day.
They had a NAZI death camp colonel on there, and he was tried by the ghosts of those he had killed via all kinds of methods (some had been shot, others gasses, others tortured, others by medical experiments). The consensus of the ghost jury was that he should be declared insane, and that he would mentally suffer the same painful deaths that each of his thousands of victims had endured, but he would do it each day until he died-then God would judge him.
Now THAT seems like justice.
SO, my idea on how to justly execute Saddam would have been to continue trying him for all the killings and tortures he ordered, but at the same time, he should be made to suffer each and every one of the same manners of death as those he killed. If someone is gassed, he gets the gas chamber until almost dead. Then he is revived when brought to the brink of death, brought back to health, and forced to suffer the gas chamber again. This process should have repeated itself (for example) 148 times for gassing 148 people.
Now, when he had his personal doctor beaten and eaten alive by dogs while he smoked a stogie from Castro, that's kinda problematic for the justice I suggest. SO, instead I envision a similar beating, followed by biting-not actually being eaten.
How is that not fair?
"Fair, but not humane" some would say. Sure, but we're not talking about a human who had humanity in his soul or character. He-like Hitler, Stalin, Dhamer, Manson, and others are human anomolies that appear human, are human biologically, but lack the humanity that distinguishes us from other animals-including dinosaurs, carnivorous beasts, and monsters.
See a monster-kill a monster.
Want justice-impose justice.
See a human-be humane
See a monster-be monstrous
The portion of the Arab Street that is "outraged" is forced-as Saddam was in the end-to face the reality of what was acceptable to the Arab Street in the past. Their repugnation is imo in great part fearful denial that their past acceptance should be forced upon them at that critical time when the noose is around the neck.
Face it, the psycho's gone, and the people who mourn him the most are his supporters. Anyone else will get over it. This is just cartoon intifadah pt IXXX (or whatever we're up to)
Perhaps these folks would h
January 4, 2007 - 08:40 ET by annoyedmanPerhaps these folks would have preferred that the disinterred remains of Uday and Qusay preside over Saddam's being quietly fed into a wood chipper?
"I never gave anybody hell. I just told them the truth and they thought it was hell." - Harry Truman
I think that people who are b
January 4, 2007 - 10:30 ET by BruzillaI think that people who are bemoaning the "uncivilized" or "un-American" way that Hussein was executed should take a few minutes and Google the execution of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. His enemies took him and his gal-pal out of prison on the context that they were being rescued, drove them a mile from the prison, and lined them up in front of a bunch of machine guns to be executed. Then their bodies, along with those of five others, were hung upside down in the streets to rot in front of the cheering "majority" of non-facist Italians. I would guess that the minority of facist Italians were upset by the spectacle, but I don't think anyone gave a damn.
If it weren't for American GIs, who witnessed the event and ordered the bodies be taken down, El 'Duce and his pals would probably have hung there until decay caused the bodies to fall apart. If you ask me Hussein got off pretty easy.