Your Tax Money at Work: PBS Pushes for Iraq Withdrawal

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Monday’s NewsHour on PBS continued to drive home the grim reality that 3,000 American troops are now dead in the Iraq war. They featured two family members of fallen soldiers who are grieving through non-political means and one that's political. Of course, the politically activist family on this partially taxpayer funded show is anti-war and favors a swift withdrawal. Curiously, the did not find time to feature a Gold Star family that favors the mission in Iraq.

Reporter Spencer Michels mixed emotional stories of a mother on a walkathon for wounded soldiers, and a Colombian immigrant soldier posthumously awarded U.S. citizenship, with the anti-war family. Michels even offered a statement implying recent Democratic victories as a victory for peace. Then he raised concern that they may not be liberal enough.

SPENCER MICHELS: "As they continue to grieve, they take a bit of comfort in the fact that political activism like theirs may have played a small part in the Democratic wins in Congress this fall. But they say their work is far from done, and they worry the Democrats in Congress may not act quickly enough to end the war."

The entire transcript is below:

SPENCER MICHELS: "Thirteen hundred miles away in Cleveland, Ohio, Rosemary Palmer and Paul Schroeder have also been spurred to take action following the death of their son. Twenty-three-year-old Augie Schroeder died, along with a number of other Marines, when their amphibious vehicle hit a roadside bomb near Haditha in August 2005. His parents, who had never been very politically active, decided they had to do something to channel their grief, so they began Families of the Fallen for Change, an organization to lobby Congress to pull out of Iraq. Both Schroeder and Palmer have quit their jobs to devote all of their time to the organization, because they don't want the public to forget about the men and women who are coming home from the war in caskets."

PAUL SCHROEDER: "It's so easy for people who lose someone like this to close the door. You want it to go away. And we decided that, you know, all of these guys come back from Iraq who are dead, in the dark of night at Dover Air Force Base, and we we're not going to let that happen to our son. So we opened the door; we turned the lights on; we opened the window shades; we let the sunshine on what has happened. And basically it's that message. We took his face and put his face on this floor."

MICHELS: "As they continue to grieve, they take a bit of comfort in the fact that political activism like theirs may have played a small part in the Democratic wins in Congress this fall. But they say their work is far from done, and they worry the Democrats in Congress may not act quickly enough to end the war."

ROSEMARY PALMER: "I think they're going to say, 'Well, we're working on it.' And they can make a lot of activity and a big show of, 'We're working. We're making these plans,' but not much is going to happen. And that's what I'm worried about. I plan to keep working, you know, for the exit, by continuing to keep on the congressmen and saying, you know, 'I didn't, I didn't, you know, push to have you elected to sit there and talk about it. I want to see some action.'"

MICHELS: "On a personal level, they say they are making some slow progress in their healing, as well. This year, they were able to put up a Christmas tree, something they couldn't bear to do last year."

PALMER: "Christmas was always a big season. You know, like we always had lots of things planned. And now we have almost nothing planned. It's..."

SCHROEDER: "You have to find a new routine for the holidays. I met a woman, older woman, who lost a son in Vietnam. She was listening to me speak at some occasion, and she came up to me and put her arms around me. And I asked her -- she told me about her situation. And I asked, 'Does it get any easier?' She said, 'No, you just get used to it.' And I think that helped me turn a corner, because, 'OK, I'm used to this.'"

—Justin McCarthy is a news analyst at Media Research Center.


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The vast majority of milita

The vast majority of military members, and families that have military members, and families that have lost military members, are obviously wrong to support the war, so there's no point interviewing any of them... and all of them will be charged with crimes against humanity alongside the Anthropomorphic Global Warming skeptics.

LNTHOMP previously posting as LEENT. U.S. Navy (ret.)

I have enough money to last me the rest of my life. Unless I buy something.

Only 3000 casualties thus far

Only 3000 casualties thus far...an amazing acheivement and testimony to the brilliant leaders of the WOT Iraq campaign...

Indeed it is.  FDR and Eisen

Indeed it is.  FDR and Eisenhower lost that in the span of a single day: 6 June 1944.  Adm. Husband Kimmel did the same on 7 December 1941.  So, losing 3000 casualties in less than 4 years?  Regrettable, but could it EVER be worse...

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy."  -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)

That particular campaign you

That particular campaign you reference killed over 62 MILLION people in total - much better to have smaller wars than world wars - nip em in the bud...we do have to suffer the bitching libbies, however...

GWB and friends are doing way more to prevent massive global warfare than any so-called anti-war" appease-o-lib by leaps and bounds...

Perhaps it is high time we ta

Perhaps it is high time we tax-payers insisted on a PBS, ah, withdrawal.   :-^)

Dave R    We should have &

Dave R    We should have "Pulled the Plug"  on that worthless PBS  many moons, years, decades......ago !!   ww    :-O                          Being "Politcaly Correct"  with    ISLAM  will distroy America......WW             

ww,I have always felt that if

ww,

I have always felt that if PBS wishes to assist the MSM in running this country into the ground, they should, at the very least, be required to obtain their own funding.

Maybe PBS can solicit Air A

Maybe PBS can solicit Air America for funding support.

LNTHOMP previously posting as LEENT. U.S. Navy (ret.)

I have enough money to last me the rest of my life. Unless I buy something.

Dave R,That would be a "

Dave R,

That would be a "strategic redeployment"....to Okinawa, or somesuch.

Blonde,[Evil grin forming]Act

Blonde,

[Evil grin forming]

Actually, I was thinking of something else, but that would work, too, as long as we don't have to pay for the move.   :-^)

Unfortunately over the last f

Unfortunately over the last fifteen years or more now I guess it's getting to be, the Republicans had the chance to rid the public tax dollars supporting this well fed group of 99% leftist programs...and they always cave or get defeated.

Talk about aggravating....this shows we will never get out of the UN or rid ourselves of the State Dept. or IRS to a point with at least a flat tax that can never ever be messed with, or the Education Dept. going back to the States....if we can't rid ourselves of PBS we are doomed.

"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under."  Ronald Reagan

pbs

PBS. It has that cool European /Socialistic/Communistic flair about it. It's I-Hop with American tax dollars. Its commentators are so unctuous, you need to towel down after listening to them. But our pals the pols will never let it go, any more then will they kick the U.N. out of America. Sad.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

I've watched the Newshour for

I've watched the Newshour for years and consider it, without doubt, the best, most objective source of news on the TV. To call it a leftist rag is flat out nuts.

I also recently read (I can't remember where) a more or less liberal critique of the Newshour criticizing it for its caving to conservative pressure and that cited as partial proof a recent study that found a 2 to 1 Republican to Democrat ratio in commentators appearing on that show.

I don't know that ratio to be a fact, but I do know that the Newshour does a better job of balancing the news than any other major news production. Indeed, in testimony to the Senate, Kenneth Tomlinson, then the very conservative chair of the CPB, said, "...in terms of the Jim Lehrer Newshour, there is no balance problem. That is great journalism."

If the Newshour appears overly leftist to many on this cite, I would suggest that that's due to your own prejudices coloring your perceptions of reality.

CuriousI've listened to PBS f

Curious

I've listened to PBS for many, many years and would suggest that if it appears neutral to you, it is due to your prejudices coloring your perception of reality.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

Oh, and if the National Conse

Oh, and if the National Conservative Action Conference called it "the most balanced network news show," or the Hudson Institute said that "the Newshour with Jim Lehrer is the mothership of balance," would that be a case of their prejudices coloring their perceptions of reality?

PBS is what it is. I think fo

 Alger Hiss also had many defenders. PBS is what it is. I think for myself.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

Curious - Tim Graham addres

Curious - Tim Graham addressed that bogus study a while back on newsbusters. It was flawed big time. You can read about it here

http://newsbusters.o...

The above link didn't work - not sure why - try this or cut and paste the address

I'm not citing a study now, j

I'm not citing a study now, just actual quotes. Explain them to me. And I'm not trying to be cute. I like the Newshour, I consider it MORE balanced than ANY of its competitors, and the above sources agree with me....as do most, if not all, of my more conservative friends.

Bully for you!

 I don't think you're "cute" at all. I think you're a typical leftist who believe what the talking heads tell you and you do what they tell you to do.  If you believe it's "balanced" then bully for you & your "conservative friends".  So, would you like a cookie for your statement?  I bet you would, with organic milk.

Curious - how can I explain

Curious - how can I explain quotes without context or support? Just because someone says something doesn't make it true. Why don't you address the actual blog here? The blog is talking about a specific instance of left bias. It doesn't just state that there is bias it gives an example. How do you explain the fact that Newshour included activist families against the war but not activist families who support the war? Is that balanced to you?

"Just because someone sa

"Just because someone says something doesn't make it true."  

Precisely, DB. I thought the same thing when I read Curious' last post. And it DOES seem to be the last, at least on this branch of the thread.

I love how some people consider a quote from some "knowledgeable source" to be actual fact, and proof of their argument. Unless, of course, it goes against them. Then it's just "opinion." 

Regards,
IJ      

DB, I suspect you'll not eve

DB, I suspect you'll not even read this, but I just, in response to your post, got around to watching Monday's Newshour (I had taped it so I could watch the bowl game).

Having now watched this "specific instance of left bias," my question is: Did you even bother to watch this segment? There were three families interviewed: one was an activist helping the families of fallen warriors; one was an activist who had turned against the war; and one was noncommital, though he clearly honored the memory of his fallen brother. Where in the world is the "left bias?" If anything, this segment was pro-military in its depiction of how the communities in which two of the fallen had lived had turned out in great number to honor their service.  

If you, and the author of this post, truly believe that this segment was an instance of left bias, then I would suggest that you're being overly parnoid and need help to deal with your delusions of leftists hiding under every bed.

As a final note: this isn't the first time I've offered a contrary, but still basically conservative position on this blog only to find myself attacked as a leftist. True conservativism is much broader than the narrow set of politically correct issues and positions promoted by this Administration and its media minions. Indeed, calling this Administration conservative is itself a perversion of the meaning of that term.

And I stand by my view that the Newshour is the most objective and informed of all the major news media. To trash it as leftist is ideological BS.  

curious

I have yet to read a study of news broadcasters who thought PBS and the News Hour was the most objective or informed. Every study I have read puts them in about the same place as the New York Times, but to the right of the Guardian.

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

I guess I would have to ask w

I guess I would have to ask what studies you've read. If they themselves are ideologically biased, then I'ld question their perspective rather than my own eyes and mind.

On the other hand, there are plenty of studies on the left, like those by FAIR, that claim that PBS and especially the Newshour are conservatively biased because they overly represent elitest perspectives to the disadvantage of more popular, or populist, views.

We do need to distinguish PBS and the Newshour. I was specifically referring to the latter. But even with the former, when I think of the American Experience or other offerings, I have a hard time thinking of them as leftist or rightest. They are just good, informative entertainment. If only the rest of the tube's spectrum could offer fare as good.

Curious - got your comment

Curious - got your comment below - thanks. I have to disagree 100% about PBS. I'm glad you at least distinguish it from Newshour, but PBS is very left wing. I don't even give money to them anymore because I've been so fed up with their roundtables that are 4 liberals and one moderate. I think PBS should stick to the childrens programming and other non political stuff.

DB, I agree with your last re

DB, I agree with your last remark about the strenghts of PBS, but I also have a hard time forgetting the Louis Rukeyser's of old. I guess that I really don't watch much PBS apart from their historical, scientific and biographical fare (such as their Pacific War in color that's on tonite, or the Saga of the Isrealites that aired a few weeks back). I can deal with most of their political fare, one has to know ones enemy and all that, it's their high cultural operas and symphonies that drive me away. My own bias.

Time to go

What I love about PBS is Au

What I love about PBS is Austin City Limits and Soundstage.

Curious - I'm sorry if you

Curious - I'm sorry if you think I attacked you as a leftist. I don't see how you got that from my comments. I agree with you that newshour is one of the more balanced programs, but everything is relative. It's sad that we have to settle for a couple of almost balanced programs.

I'm glad that NB reports when they are not because you know media matters is out there constantly complaining about conservative bias.

I didn't see this episode but the post specifically addresses that they didn't bother to have a memeber of the Gold stars on. Being an advocate for the soldiers doesn't make someone in favor of the war.

I'm glad I caught your comment - have a nice evening

DB, it was the gentleman a fe

DB, it was the gentleman a few posts ahead of you that called me a typical leftist, but he isn't the only one here who has done so. It's a sad commentary on an otherwise fairly intelligent blog that some people resort to ad hominen attacks rather than focusing on the substance of the argument. It's even sadder that some perceive legitimate points of contention to be a leftist attack, and then dismiss them. How are we ever to learn and grow if we dump on everybody who challenges our positions.

No matter: I didn't mean to imply that it was you who called me a leftist. I've been here long enough to know most of your posts are at least thoughtful. I do, however, feel that the author of the original post grossly misrepresented this particular segment. The lack of a Gold Star family did nothing to diminish the balance or sense of community loss that this segment portrayed.

A good evening to you also,

If it is so great, test it on the market

If Newshour is this superior television program, I am sure that it will do just fine on its own, attracting other sources of revenue other than taxpayer's money. 

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy."  -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)

I stopped giving money to the

I stopped giving money to these commies years ago.  Time to pull the plug on PBS.

The new world order is in power. God help us all.  Airforce_5_O, 2330, November 7, 2006

Chambers

Right, Airforce.

One of the best "studies" of Communism is Witness by W. Chambers. PBS fits the mold.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

It's all that military traini

It's all that military training I got.  I can smell'em a mile away.

The new world order is in power. God help us all.  Airforce_5_O, 2330, November 7, 2006

We need to stop these people,

We need to stop these people, the war is in the United States voting booth, not anywhere else. Leftists must be defeated!

Have you ever noticed that wh

Have you ever noticed that when you have pictures of Liberals talking they always look angry. I would bet that she looks like the gym teacher in many a girls nightmare.

America is best described by one word, freedom... Dwight D. Eisenhower

PBS Lesbianism

Funny! And a good point. I've noticed that the people on my TV box seem to fit a visual pattern.
Angry dyke is a popular look for women over 40. And men? Why it's CNN's Anderson Cooper, the 5'4", 120 lb. son of multi-millionaire Gloria Vanderbuilt. This is the MSM prototype.
Today's Modern White Man, according to the enemedia, is a sensitive man. He has no need for muscles or girth. He navigates this new world with his enlightenment!
Transpose this image with the media's vision of today's black man; Strong, Angry and Proud! (Whites cannot have pride of heritage because taxpayer-funded acedemics and and the enemedia decided they don't deserve it.)
The Afro-Gay-Trans-Lesbo-Islamic-Migrant media thank you for the money-for-nothin' and the fun jobs that aren't tied to such mundane principles as "supply and demand" or "capitalism." And they wish to assure you that in the coming years they will redouble their efforts toward insuring that America's white majority be severely diluted and that the Christian Values it was built upon are destroyed.

Seejay:Very well stated.....N

Seejay:

Very well stated.....

Nowhere to Run....Nowhere To Hide.....

Angry dyke

"Rosemary Palmer and Paul Schroeder have also been spurred to take action following the death of their son."

Rosemary Palmer?

Shouldn't that be Palmer Rosemary and Paul Schroeder?  She doesn't look like any woman I've ever seen.

Our Public Broadcasting Servi

Our Public Broadcasting Service is the pantheon of the liberal intelligensia in this country.....it developed and grew under the auspices of Democrat-controlled Congresses over the past 50 years.....and the lack of courage on the part of Republicans when presented with the opportunity these past 12 years to put a stop to this nonsense.....

There is NO WAY in hell that this network could survive without government subsidies despite strong viewer support and dollars during each fund raising drive......

It is a singular blight on the minds and hearts of Americans and it will NOT go away so long as Americans continue to turn the other cheek and elect officials who continue to support this network....

PBS may be the primary culprit among many in the "pussification" of America and the promotion of "Hate America First" membership......

But I'm afraid it just won't go away so long as folks like Mrs Ray Kroc bequeath billions of dollars to this hateful and disingenuous outlet........

Nowhere to Run....Nowhere To Hide.....

I find it interesting that pe

I find it interesting that people like curious finds no bias with PBS, CNN, the rest of the alphabet soup s-news organizations.  However, these same folks consider FOX an ultra-right wing organization.  Very "curious" to me.

About the critics who slam PBS for its "conservative" tilt.  The New York Times gets slammed for it's "conservative" leanings.  We all know how "conservative", and balanced, they are.

I wished that I had a wise saying like the rest of ya'll.  I'll just note my label that the media has put on me.  Which is as follows:

"Angry white suppressant male" living in the heart of "Jesus Land".

tgibbsjr

tgibbsjr  -

 I happened to turn on Olbermann last night as I was surfing the channels. I decided to watch him because I have read so much about him and his over the top antics. Also I had read about his vicious attacks on the President and other officials. I lasted five minutes. I really cannot remember what he said--I do remember his body language and attitude indicated a very angry man. He was clearly very angry and on the attack. I said something to my wife to the effect that I would not learn anything because I heard about three misstatements (that is a polite word for insults or lies) in just 5 minutes and turned it off. But his danger is minimal (about 450,000 viewers) versus  Williams, Couric and other network fools.  They are all so biased that I do not watch any of them anymore.

re: yr comment about wise sayings---yr observations about these media are as keen as any others I have read.

Augie...

I knew Augie... we went the the same high school and used to eat lunch together.  We lost touch after school, and the last time I heard anything about him was when another mutual friend called me to tell me the times for the memorial service.

I met his parents at the service, and I can honestly say I think they're good people (if not currently a little misguided).  Augie was a volunteer EMT, who joined the military after 9-11, believing he should help his country.  He was a good guy... always the guy in the group who was happy to be the butt of a joke, if it meant we all got a laugh.

I agree about the PBS stuff... and a lot of what has already been said by the other posters.  But I thought ya'll should know that about Augie.