NY Times theatre reporter Jesse Green's "Not Everybody Loves Patricia" is about actress Patricia Heaton, former co-star of "Everyone Loves Raymond" who is currently appearing in an off-Broadway play. Heaton is also nearly unique in Hollywood for being an outspoken pro-lifer, which explains the slightly mean-spirited Times headline.
"It isn't so much her views that cause her trouble as her unwillingness to finesse them for public consumption. She is compulsively honest, though she feels that’s not so much a virtue as 'an illness, like Tourette’s.' Even her more extreme positions are stated without hedging: If it were up to her, she said, there would be no abortion for any reason. But she offers such thoughts with a sense of helplessness, as if she were trapped by the implications of her core principles."
Green's piece is a mixed but mostly positive view of Heaton and her lonely stance in liberal Hollywood, and details some of the vituperation she gets from leftists. But why is Heaton's opposition to abortion "extreme"?
Has the Times ever used "extreme" to describe the wackily leftist or paranoid anti-Bush views of entertainers like Sean Penn, Tim Robbins, Alec Baldwin, or Harry Belafonte? Aren't their comments on Bush, Iraq, and Hugo Chavez far more extreme than Heaton's pro-life beliefs?
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Oh, good grief. This is about
January 2, 2007 - 15:11 ET by Chris NormanOh, good grief. This is about as subtle as a train wreck. Will anyone even try to defend or dismiss this?
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Ooo! OOo! Me! Me! I'll do it!
January 2, 2007 - 15:43 ET by balboaOoo! OOo! Me! Me! I'll do it! (I was SO successful earlier in the Great Sic Debate).
My guess is that they stated her opinion as extreme because she doesn't believe in abortion for ANY reason, which implies that she wouldn't want a woman to get an abortion even if the woman was a rape victim or in mortal danger because of the pregnancy.
Pile on!
Ah, my bait worked. It's like
January 2, 2007 - 15:46 ET by Chris NormanAh, my bait worked. It's like putting out a salt lick for deer. Not that I do. I heard that's what others do...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
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Yeah, couldn't resist... I r
January 2, 2007 - 16:10 ET by balboaYeah, couldn't resist...
I really like Patricia Heaton. She's funny and pretty darn hot.
Does this make her extremely
January 2, 2007 - 16:13 ET by Chris NormanHot, but extreme. Hey, does this make her extremely hot?
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Hmm...not sure extremely hot
January 2, 2007 - 16:18 ET by balboaHmm...not sure extremely hot is the right category.
Who else is a Republican celebrity? Selleck, Heaton, Gibson (I think?), who else?
No one knows - the "know
January 2, 2007 - 16:28 ET by Chris NormanNo one knows exactly - most of the well-known Republican celebrities have died of old age. As soon as they're "outed", a lot of the younger ones waffle and backtrack. I suppose they need the work...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Bal is 100% correct
January 2, 2007 - 18:14 ET by Free StinkerI really like Patricia Heaton. She's funny and pretty darn hot.
Bal - I always knew your heart was in the right place! ;-)
Mortal danger I can see. T
January 2, 2007 - 15:48 ET by MightyMouthMortal danger I can see. The mothers choice to defend herself or sacrafice herself. But rape? Doesn't that just add to the victim count?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Doesn't that just add to the
January 2, 2007 - 16:31 ET by sdbDoesn't that just add to the victim count?
More than that, it adds to the victim's trauma.
"But in the only major study of pregnant rape victims ever done, Dr. Sandra Mahkorn found that 75 to 85 percent chose against abortion."
"The research shows that nearly all the women who ended the pregnancy with abortion regretted that decision. Conversely, those who gave birth to their child were all happy they did."
Pregnant rape victims who get an abortion report that the abortion gave them feelings of being violated all over again, adding to their trama and increasing feelings of guilt, depression, and even suicidal thoughts. Those that gave birth said that it helped in the healing process and helped them overcome the rape. If we are going to let women have abortions because of rape, let's make sure they have all the information, instead of just assuming that abortion what the woman wants or is best.
sdb - This was an extremely s
January 3, 2007 - 08:53 ET by ding7777sdb - This was an extremely small study ( 37 participants; 4 dropped out, 5 had abortions, 28 continued the pregnancy) with too much missing information to be of value.
What was the marital statuses at the time of the rape?
Who raped them - a stranger or husband/boyfriend with whom they later reconciled?
Did the stranger rapist commit another crime in addition to the rape (murder another family member)?
Was their general health acceptable for contunuing a pregnancy?
Did they give the child up for adoption or raise the child?
Did their extended families support their decision?
That's astronomically less ex
January 2, 2007 - 16:04 ET by mattmThat's astronomically less extreme than the infantacide known as partial birth abortion.
balboa - That argument coul
January 2, 2007 - 16:18 ET by Dee Bunkbalboa - That argument could work if they also called people who believe in having no restrictions on abortion extremists. Do you think her position is more extreme than many liberals who think it's ok for an 11 year old to get an abortion without discussing with a trusted adult or to kill a baby during a botched abortion or to kill a baby that could live on it's own outside the womb?
dear balboa:
January 2, 2007 - 19:05 ET by tumbler_2007Bal:
Does it occur to you, RE: no abortion for any reason,
That this cannot be seen as extreme if you live aware of life and death. An abortion isn't murder, or criminal, or infanticide because the little victim dies during a procedure. Millions of little victims die every day in the world without incurring God's wrath. They die of more or less natural causes. It's not on account of their death at all.
It's always on account of a murderer. Not a single abortion ever takes place for whatever reason, that isn't PERPETRATED by either the coat hanger-wielders or by physicians. A person is killing an innocent person. Rape victims are innocent. Their killers are not. That's why basically every abortion is always murder. One kills, the other (innocent) is killed.
When the choice is to save either a mother or the fetus, it's not murder, but lawful medicine. Patricia Heaton is absolutely correct. No exceptions, all unborn babies have the right to life.
Seems like
January 3, 2007 - 09:06 ET by pagaryou'll be happy with the new Democrat murder bill.
http://gatewaypundit...
Even more inconvenient children will apparently be allowed to be murdered, just for you.
Name calling
January 2, 2007 - 15:16 ET by iveseenitall"Extreme", a word in the name-calling section of the Communist handbook for fellow travelers. Anytime a person doesn't recite the party line, call him or her an extremist. The liberals have used this technique for years. Problem is, they can't take it if it is done to them.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Thank God for a lonely voice
January 2, 2007 - 15:17 ET by Clear thinkerThank God for a lonely voice in the wilderness. This gal just rose in stature by leaps and bounds in my view.
How can anyone be against a woman that is opposed to murdering babies?
There they go again; "Op
January 2, 2007 - 15:24 ET by mattmThere they go again; "Open-minded" Liberals slapping the 'extreme' label on someone who doesn't fall in lock-step with their opinion.
Good for you Ms. Heaton and f
January 2, 2007 - 15:36 ET by Senior ChiefGood for you Ms. Heaton and for the mothers and fetuses. Hollywood is indeed a wacko community, where everyone is sleeping with just anyone who they want to. And I'm glad to hear someone is against the trend. If I remember right, Ms. Heaton had a political ad against embryonic stem cell research opposite to Michael Fox' position during the last election. So, she's consistent and it wasn't a hoax. I agree with her statement 100 percent, "if it were up to her, there would be no abortion for any reason". For only God can giveth and taketh life. Other than that is a crime.
As a service man, you might ask what the heck am I doing in the military for? Answer: to preserve life- your and my children's lives.
For only God can giveth an
January 2, 2007 - 17:31 ET by MyKindaSpamFor only God can giveth and taketh life. Other than that is a crime.
You're saying that and you're in the military? That's a little surprising. There are religious pacifists who take that stance and are anti-military, anti-death penalty and anti-gun. Are you one of those, or did you mean something else with your statement?
I am pro-strong military, pro
January 3, 2007 - 08:48 ET by Senior ChiefI am pro-strong military, pro-death penalty (as soon as they get sentence to die, especially those child rapist and molesters- the perverts), and pro-gun (the more guns you have, the more you are protected. Guns don't kill, murderers are.), pro-life (fetus is a baby and somebody has to protect them. Perverts and criminals don't need protection).
I am also pro-small government, anti-corrupt politicians, anti-career politicians (term limits), fiscal-conservative, anti-lobbyist. I'm also anti-labor unions (NEA-NTU, etc.), anti-welfare programs (especially those who are able to work. These people are stealing money from you and me). And very anti-illegal immigration. I am an immigrant came here legally...
Yep, someone who wants to pro
January 2, 2007 - 15:43 ET by paperheadYep, someone who wants to protect unborn babies is extreme in their minds. I think we need to start referring to abortion for what it really is and change their name from Pro-Life to Pro-Murder of Innocent Children!
How nice to see a Hollywood
January 2, 2007 - 15:43 ET by RunningBeerHow nice to see a Hollywood celeb who doesn't cave in to the pressures of this extremely liberal industry. I think I'll buy tix to just about anything she's involved with.
So people who profess a pro-l
January 2, 2007 - 16:29 ET by Dave RSo people who profess a pro-life view are now considered extremists by the liberal dominated media. How much farther into the abyss is this country going to sink before we start hearing people opposed to and abhorred by the sexual exploitation of children being described as extremist prudes by the MSM?
Am I going a little over the wall here?
Based on what I have been seeing recently in certain parts of Europe, as well as what I have observed parents allowing their young daughters to wear in public in this country, I do not expect we will have to sink all that much deeper.
No, you're not "going a
January 2, 2007 - 18:46 ET by Eric TurnerNo, you're not "going a little over the wall here." Four examples why it's just a matter of time before we allow pedophiles access to younger teenagers:
1) We already currently permit teenage girls (in many states) to get an abortion without parental consent. A girl can simply go to a counselor at school and bing, bam, boom, she's going to get an abortion without her parents knowing about it.
2) We currently punish children as young as 12 with capital punishment or other adult punishment when they commit "adult" crimes. We don't think twice about this. And although many of us would say abortion without parental consent is wrong, must of us would say we should punish children with adult punishment when they commit adult crimes.
3) We permit children under the age of 18 to be accessible to all sorts of sexual information with the excuse that they have sex anyway, so we should "teach" the right way to "not get pregnant." (let me also include the here that many children are exposed to all sorts of sexual depravity [i.e. homosexuality] at very young ages under the guise of "diversity.")
4) Too many Americans want to emulate Europe with it's so-called "progressive" ideas and secular governments and society that they will gladly follow them down the primrose path to destruction if they could.
This is something I've been thinking of for some time and believe it's just a matter of time before we end up lowering the legal age of responsibility (i.e. sexual relations with adults). We continue treating kids like adults in regards to abortion, sexual instruction, lack of moral guidance (or compass), etc and yet (now you got to think like a liberal here, so follow me).we treat them like children when it comes to actually having sex. We either treat them like children all the time, or eventually they will be treated like adults all the time (courtesy of the liberals who will state the rights of children are being infringed upon). There can be no ambiguity here.
I won't even get into the exposure of sex and perversion through advertising, videos, games, television, and movies.
Once a society makes a determination that there are no moral absolutes the slope gets pretty slippery and it's just a race to the bottom after that.
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armyvet over the wall
January 2, 2007 - 18:54 ET by misterbillarmyvet over the wall. All I can say is--thanks for saying it!
Too true--our children are being robbed of childhood.
"..as if she were trapped by
January 2, 2007 - 16:29 ET by rimsky"..as if she were trapped by the implications of her core principles."
Damn, but they can stretch it.. what a Crock! Ms. Heaton just isn't going to fall in line. Kudos to her.
Patricia Heaton is right...to
January 2, 2007 - 16:33 ET by bigtimerPatricia Heaton is right...too bad there aren't many more like her in La-La Land of the Leftists.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
Just for the record.. I thin
January 2, 2007 - 16:35 ET by rimskyJust for the record.. I think Partial Birth Abortion qualifies as being extreme.. even Mengala-like extreme.
Patricia Heaton is the honora
January 2, 2007 - 17:07 ET by tracheostomyPatricia Heaton is the honorary chair of Feminists for Life.
Now if that organization doesn't hack off NOW, the FFL's assertion that abortion is not historically feminist definitely WILL!!! =D
-PJ
http://www.draftcondi.us/
trach,Patricia Heaton has a g
January 3, 2007 - 17:57 ET by msh1973trach,
Patricia Heaton has a great website of her own.
She is awesome and doesn't apologize for being pro-life. She got up and walked out of some awards show because she thought they were over the top and vulger (I can't remember which one it was). That takes guts in Hollywood.
Patricia Heaton is in the wro
January 2, 2007 - 18:22 ET by buddycPatricia Heaton is in the wrong business. I am totally surprised that she has any hollywood work at all. was she hired for the Raymond show before they knew what her political views were.
Poor Tom Selleck (sp) who I would love to see in a movie has little if any work.
I would love to see someone like a Selleck or Heaton sue the crap out of them for a civil rights violation.
LOL, yeah. All they have to s
January 3, 2007 - 10:45 ET by tracheostomyLOL, yeah. All they have to say is "blacklist-blacklist" and run it all over the MSM. . .oh wait, then they'd be reducing themselves to the same level as the left.
-PJ
http://www.draftcondi.us/
The MSM would never use the word 'blacklist' with Conservative.
January 3, 2007 - 10:47 ET by acaiguanaThe MSM would never use the word 'blacklist' with Conservative.
Goes against their template.
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