It's on days such as this that the absence of MSM balance is so striking.
In its first half-hour, here was Good Morning America's cast of characters discussing the life and times of President Gerald Ford:
- George Stephanopoulos, former Clinton aide, guest-hosting for Diane Sawyer.
Charlie Gibson, predictable liberal, formerly a White House correspondent, now host of World News.- Cokie Roberts, daughter of two Democratic members of the House, who reminisced about her father Hale Boggs, the Democratic Majority Leader, interacting with Pres. Ford.
- Sam Donaldson, antagonist of Republican presidents since time immemorial.
You'd think out of decency that ABC might have scared up one Republican for the crucial, first 30 minutes of the show. But no.
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My head is loose from all the
December 27, 2006 - 11:45 ET by kathleenirishMy head is loose from all the shaking it does back-n-forth.
Can you imagine, ever, an all-Republican or conservative "panel" discussing the passing of Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton? Not in a million years.
What dreck.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
Can you imagine said panel, i
December 27, 2006 - 12:00 ET by UnsaneCan you imagine said panel, if it were to exist, taking the proverbial whiz on their graves before their bodies even reach room temperature, or a mad rush to do so? I can't.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
-Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Is
December 27, 2006 - 14:23 ET by-Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph? What is this? Gerald Ford was a Christian man. Psalm 1a: 1Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly... (The Word of God)
asabiyyah
December 27, 2006 - 15:14 ET by UnsaneThe wisdom quoted in kathleenirish's signature line is truly great, no matter the source. In fact, as I was fond of saying in the immediate wake of 11 September 2001: "Our enemies failed to note that the United States has plenty of one thing they weren't counting on: asabiyyah." Asabiyyah is not a concept limited to the Islamic world alone.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
Mark - ABC
December 27, 2006 - 11:47 ET by misterbillMark-- Do you think there is any decency left in the MSM when it comes to issues regarding Republican politicians???
Yet Brutus says he was ambitious;
And, sure, he is an honourable man.
I speak not to disprove what Brutus spoke,
But here I am to speak what I do know.
You all did love him once, not without cause:
What cause withholds you then, to mourn for him?
Ford was a bit of a weak pres
December 27, 2006 - 15:52 ET by BradzillaFord was a bit of a weak president anyway. He was never elected to the position, and he was not a very good defender of conservative principles. As I recall, he was more of a friend to the Dems afterwards and regularly bashed Republican presidents. Still, it would have been nice to have a conservative viewpoint on the panel to provide balance.
Ford "weak on conservatism"
December 27, 2006 - 19:42 ET by nkviking75"...he was not a very good defender of conservative principles." In 1974, that's about the only kind of Republican there was, with a very few notable exceptions. Thanks to Ford the GOP survived long enough to give us the Reagan administration. Mr. Ford did us a great service.
Of course the Dems are going
December 27, 2006 - 12:13 ET by GothampcOf course the Dems (and by association the MSM) are going to bash Ford all they can. In the famous "Ford to New York City: Drop Dead" incident, he squashed the Democratic vision of a socialist nation. NYC at that time was a Democrat's Heaven. Ford showed that it couldn't be financially sustained.
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Fair? Balanced? Not even an
December 27, 2006 - 12:14 ET by richflanjFair? Balanced? Not even an attempt. Sickening and disgusting, but not surprising.
"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." --Hubert Humphrey
Did they bring up Nixon and Vietnam ?
December 27, 2006 - 15:47 ET by SportPoliticsDid they bring up Nixon and Vietnam ? I bet they did.
This is like asking a chef
December 27, 2006 - 12:15 ET by Richard RomanoThis is like asking a chef for advice on how to rebuild an engine. The MSM shows us daily how unreliable they really are.
What was the content of their
December 27, 2006 - 12:29 ET by balboaWhat was the content of their comments?
Although it's beside the poin
December 27, 2006 - 12:52 ET by mattmAlthough it's beside the point, here's some of it: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2753670&page=1
Oh they brought up Watergate and Nixon's pardon
December 27, 2006 - 15:49 ET by SportPoliticsOh they brought up Watergate and Nixon's pardon, after they said Ford had a lot of integrity, they bashed him with the pardon and rumor of a deal.
there is much to learn from g
December 27, 2006 - 12:36 ET by buddycthere is much to learn from gerald ford's term as vice president and president. that era was the comming of age for the yuppies who now run our universities, control our unions, control the democratic senate, control our newspapers and media. they wanted blood over vietnam, got a taste of it when they drove lbj from office and got more when they drove nixon from office. they deal with today's issues in the same way now as then. why not they were successful. the politics of hate and personal destruction began in that era. during that era the intelligence services were destroyed. the military was destroyed. Hillary Clinton made her claim to fame and learned tactics from Nixon that she still uses.
it should be required for all conservatives to go back and study that era and not believe what they are fed from the MSM. you can learn a lot about the enemy by studying that time in history.
Right
December 27, 2006 - 13:35 ET by iveseenitallRight, Buddy. For those of us grew up in the 50's it was the culmination of 20 years of the slow destruction of American values. The age of innocense was over and modern liberalism was taking hold. The lure of this dishonest, disgusting philosophy was already beginning to drag the nation we once knew to the depths of depravity we see today. The baby boomers were coming of age, many of them with a whole new set of "values". Ford narrowly lost to Jimmy C., who really did a job on us. The "progressives" in the MSM and many public institutions continued to spew the socialist nonsense of the 60's and gained the foothold they still enjoy today. Sad story.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Yes the MSM is going to be
December 27, 2006 - 15:47 ET by mlongYes the MSM is going to be shameless in it's treatment of Ford's passing..last night Chrissy Matthews in a call-in interview went on on how his passing was "good timing" because it would help his legacy by comparison of today's politics..IE:his history as president can be used to bash Bush(Watergate,Vietnam etc).
This is almost as bad as when Reagan died and the MSM was stunned at the out pouring of love that was shown Reagan by the American people..they couldn't understand why they didn't hate him as much as they did even though they spent over a decade bashing him in the press to convince them he was a bad president.
Excellent point mlong
December 27, 2006 - 15:51 ET by SportPoliticsExcellent point mlong. I was very surprised myself, being a younger chap who didn't really follow things then.
Let's go easy on Cokie today.
December 27, 2006 - 16:25 ET by CaringwhiteguyLet's go easy on Cokie today. It's her 63rd birthday. She doesn't look bad for an old lefty. Just think, in another 100 years she'll look just like Helen Thomas.
We really are not supposed to
December 27, 2006 - 19:09 ET by bigtimerWe really are not supposed to be surprised by this fair and balanced bunch of leftist whiz-bangs are we? ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, they are all predictable, I didn't expect anything else at all, and they all bitch and moan about FOX, what perfect hypocrites....by the way, as if they really cared or respected one wit about President Ford, they were bashing him constantly too...after-all he did the unpardonable, he Pardoned President Nixon, they wanted him nailed to a cross, they had mall, spikes and wood ready for it!
I call them the enemy within....they are just soooo obvious.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
Journalists go first
December 27, 2006 - 19:45 ET by nkviking75Not only weren't there Republicans, but there was no one outside the ABC News circle. In recapping Mr. Ford's life, aren't there anyone but reporters they can turn to offer opinions?
I posted this quote on Hot
December 27, 2006 - 20:44 ET by kevcadI posted this quote on Hot Air concerning an AP article by David Bauder:
"Notice that AP report by David Bauder doesn’t mention one word about Fox News, which was just as alert as all the other nets?"
The article in question:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061227/ap_en_tv/ford_tv_2
Worst of all is the "opi
December 28, 2006 - 09:58 ET by donsalesWorst of all is the "opinion" piece posing as hard news by Bob Woodward this morning in the WP.......
He claims a day after Ford dies that the former President "was opposed" to the current war in Iraq based on purloined tapes from an interview several years ago......these folks are incorrigible and totally out of control these days.....the enemies of this nation carrying on the fine new traditions of the DEM party.....
Talk about a MSM AGENDA that keeps on giving!
I really wish that Betty Ford would take Woodward to task PUBLICLY today on this BS article and chastise Woodward for using the former President for his own political purposes before the body is stiff......
Nowhere to Run....Nowhere To Hide.....
don, I could not agree more.
December 28, 2006 - 11:47 ET by bigtimerdon,
I could not agree more. I was looking for an open thread to post the exact thing you just did, I have been furious since last night when I saw Woodward on the brain-dead, bony shouldered, suspender guy, Larry King last night, it just plain disgusted me...the fithy leftist msm could not even wait until after Ford was buried, I imagine Betty Ford has other things going on with her at the moment, but I too wish she would come out with a comment on this despicable behaviour, even if through a spokesperson, one of her children or some such.
CNN and msnbc have been happily reporting this with gusto late yesterday afternon, plus all morning as far as I can stand to listen anymore...despicable creatures all.
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
Yeah, those damn Democrats.
December 28, 2006 - 19:49 ET by JohnboYeah, those damn Democrats. And I bet they completely neglected to include any mention of the invasion of East Timor by Indonesia in ’75. President Ford and Henry Kissinger were informed of the pending invasion and allowed it to happen as part of the on-going support for anything that Suharto, an "anti-communist", wanted to do. The report of East Timor’s Commission for Reception, Truth and Reconciliation report released in January of this year has found that U.S. "political and military support were fundamental to the Indonesian invasion and occupation" of East Timor from 1975 to 1999 . . .”
How does an unwarranted, illegal invasion and occupation that resulted in the death of anywhere from 180,000 (from the final report of East Timor's landmark Commission for Reception, Truth and Reconciliation) to 250,000 (Asia Times, July 13, 2004) somehow get lost when telling the story of Ford’s presidency?
Well, one way is to keep it under seal for years until it's all forgotten. Brad Simpson, a professor at the University of Maryland who works for the National Security Archives and is head of the Indonesia/East Timor Documentation Project has worked for over 25 years to get the release through Freedom of Information Act laws of sealed documents and memos that show Ford and Kissinger’s involvement. When asked recently about what he learned from those documents Simpson said:
Gerald Ford actually met twice with Suharto, first in July of 1975 when Suharto came to the United States. And later in December of 1975, of course, on the eve of his invasion of East Timor. And we now know that for more than a year Indonesia had been planning its armed takeover of East Timor, and the United States had of course been aware of Indonesian military plans. In July of 1975, the National Security Council first informed Henry Kissinger and Gerald Ford of Indonesia’s plans to take over East Timor by force. And Suharto of course raised this with Gerald Ford in July when he met with Gerald Ford at Camp David on a trip to the United States. And then in December of 1975 on a trip through Southeast Asia, Gerald Ford met again with Suharto on the eve of the invasion, more than two weeks after the National Security Council, CIA, other intelligence agencies had concluded that an Indonesian invasion was eminent. And that the only thing delaying the invasion was the fear that US disapproval might lead to a cut-off of weapons and military supplies to the regime.
The invasion started as Ford and Kissinger flew to Guam where Ford gave a speech to memorialize Pearl Harbor. In the speech Ford said, “never again should the United States allow another nation to strike in the middle of the night, to attack another defenseless nation.” The Indonesian army was supplied and trained by the U.S. and dropped paratroopers from U.S.-supplied planes. A few days after the invasion, Ford sent a telegram to the State Department asking that an emergency diplomatic cable be sent to General Suharto, in response to his recent visit. And inside the cable, which was sent by diplomatic pouch from the US Embassy, was a set of golf balls from Gerald Ford.
When Americans wonder why people around the world hate us or at least have a hard time believing our intentions are pure, they should read a little history. That is, if they can find it. A lot of it won’t be found in the MSM. But then, you knew they were biased already, right?
Johnbo...Go fly a kite off a
December 28, 2006 - 19:57 ET by bigtimerJohnbo...
Go fly a kite off a high cliff....night time is perfect for ya!
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
You slimy little hypocrite.
December 28, 2006 - 20:09 ET by JohnboYou slimy little hypocrite. You're dumb as a freaking doorknob. You're clueless enough to put a quote about being a "nation under God" right on the heels of a post citing evidence that the U.S. was an accessory to a military invasion and occupation that took the lives of 180-250,000 people. You better stay away from lightening storms. You’re going to get your stupid ass fried, BRO.
You really need to leave fore
December 28, 2006 - 20:12 ET by UnsaneYou really need to leave foreign policy to Machiavellians and grownups. And stop posting the same post multiple places like this in a bid to get attention.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
Yeah, I know international re
December 28, 2006 - 20:28 ET by JohnboYeah, I know international relations isn't for the faint of heart but, if you're going to be "Machiavellian", don't try and wrap it up in some kind of we're-here-to-help-you pretense. It's called hypocricy. Look it up. It's the one thing that even got Jesus mad (the money changers in the temple).
At least be honest with yourself and everyone else. Do like the Romans did. Stomp everyone to dust, chop off a few heads, flay a few troublemakers alive and crucify the rest. Those that live will do as their told. Or, do what the U.S. did for so many years; prop up thugs with guns and tanks and let them brutalize their people - or invade a nice little piece of real estate they'd like to have. And then when the President who was responsible dies, we'll all put our hands over our hearts, wipe away a tear, and talk about the great things he did.
The sickening tripe that this countries believes about itself makes me want to puke.
Jonnie baby go play in a four
December 28, 2006 - 20:37 ET by bigtimerJonnie baby go play in a four lane intersection...night time is perfect for ya!
"If we ever forget that we are a Nation Under God....then we will be a Nation Gone Under." Ronald Reagan
You are saying that the Roman
December 28, 2006 - 20:54 ET by UnsaneYou are saying that the Romans had no proxies?
Sorry. If ANYONE sees the United States or any other country in a "we're here to help you" pretense, they are chronically naive. International relations has best been described as "one country f&%!ing another". The description is apt and I keep it under my hat at all times. It's a depressing fact, but as a realist, it's a fact I LONG ago have accepted, to the point now that I recoil at people who see it as otherwise.
Finally, if you cannot accept that it is not viewed upon as polite in this culture to piss on one's grave, ESPECIALLY when he has just died, I cannot help you. History will deal with the good, the bad, and the ugly soon enough. But will it kill you to at least ACT somewhat respectful until the flags go back up to full-staff?
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
You crack me up, Unsane!! Y
December 28, 2006 - 21:08 ET by JohnboYou crack me up, Unsane!! You don't give a fiddler's damn about the Ford Administration giving the green light to a "proxy" who wanted to kick a little butt but you're upset at the lack of politieness at mentioning it at the time of Ford's death? Wow, that's upside down and backwards.
I'm all for respecting what Ford did well but don't think we do ourselves as a country right without mentioning the whole picture. For the record, Ford was a decent man.
Can't help mentioning a quote from the Sufi master that brought Sufism to the west, Hazrat Inayat Khan. "Evil is manifest by our inability to concieve of causing it."
No, I don't give a damn about
December 28, 2006 - 22:08 ET by UnsaneNo, I don't give a damn about the Ford administration giving a green light to a proxy, who, by the way, was and is a member of OPEC (hmmm...why would THAT matter in 1975???). Read The Prince sometime.
My point stands on having a little respect for Ford. I know you hate him deeply and passionately for not having (D) appear after his name, as you hate anyone who either doesn't have that or thinks that coddling, babysitting, nanny government is a VERY bad idea, but at least let rigor mortis kick in.
That quote on the bottom only confirms for me that you hate the United States, capitalism, free enterprise, and see it as the root of all evil. It really is too bad you will ONLY love all of those things AFTER they are gone. Fortunately, there are some of us - people like me - who love them while they are still here! (Indeed, I shall be fighting for that which you so hate part-time quite soon...)
If you hate everything about this country and see it as the root of all evil, then why the hell aren't you in Canada, or Britain, or some other Socialist paradise? Could it be that you are in ingrate, crying at the tit of capitalism at which you so greedily suck?
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
You're like a comic-book Don
December 28, 2006 - 22:36 ET by JohnboYou're like a comic-book Don Quixote, tilting at imaginary wind mills in your mind. You create things out of whole cloth and try and stitch them into something that you think fits me. Sorry Bro, it ain't me you're thinking of. It's some imaginary "liberal" that wants to "suck the tit" of capitalism while whining about the milk.
In your imagination, anyone who wants this country to live up to its principles, call this incompetent, lying administration on their shit, or, in fact, points out anything you dissagree with is a target for you wild pitches. Maybe you're spending too much time alone in the basement on the computer, huh?
I don't hate this country, I hate bull shit and the people that spread it. Think you can get your lame brain around that?
Creating things out of whole
December 29, 2006 - 00:50 ET by UnsaneCreating things out of whole cloth? Sorry you feel that way. I am going off of all of your posts. From them, I get the sense that you are enraged that the United States is not a one-party state controlled by the Democratic party. It is indeed YOU that I am thinking of the whole time.
I also love seeing you crying about this country not living up to its principles. If you ask me, that just indicates that you are a horrific student of history. In the past 100 years, in addition to ensuring that the 300 million citizens in this country are free, we liberated as many as a BILLION people on the Eurasian landmass. For most of this year, I slept on the slope of a hill where U.S. Army soldiers last heard the call of “Fix bayonets!” in preparation of a bayonet charge. The result of that battle, among others, was the freedom of 45 million South Koreans today. Yet, you cry about the United States not living up to its principles. Fortunately, the one principle it has always lived up to - no thanks to you - is one found in a passage in an oath I have taken: “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic”. To do that, you must do plenty of quite unpleasant things, but because of that, we are here as a nation today. The United States does not exist, contrary to your belief, because it asked Britain’s permission back in the 1770s, or out of the kindness of other nations’ hearts.
Somewhere in that vivid imagination of yours, I am some blind, devoted Bush supporter and a member of some political party. I am neither, but you refuse to accept that. I am guided politically by a series of principles, some of which have been met, and others that have not been. As there is no Unsane Party, I must make do with what I have. Since Bush is light years beyond the competition he faced, guess where I had to cast my vote?
The reality is that my “wild pitches” are in direct response to the sum total of your posts. From them, I get the sense that you hate people who make a dime more than you, all politicians that do not have (D) after their name, that you loathe the fact we have a military and occasionally use it, that you see the United States as the root of all evil, and that the United States should be much more like Western Europe.
The reason you spend some much time throwing a tantrum like a five year old about this administration is because you center your entire life on the government. If you nick yourself shaving, you go crying to the federal government. If you have a hangnail, you immediately blame Bush - I suppose because it is MUCH easier than handling it yourself. I, on the other hand, do not. So long as we continue to mow down terrorists in Baghdad, not Boston, my mail arrives on time, and my taxes stay nice and low (why can’t we toss the entire tax code and hit every American at 17% with absolutely no deductions, I ask?), I’m not going to gripe about too much. I can solve most of life’s problems on my own with little or no help and can’t understand why not everyone wants to function that self-sufficiently. If some natural disaster strikes, I’ll turn to my insurance company and the state (and city) government - the way it always has worked.
Not to mention that I think you are a very miserable human being and desperately want everyone to be as miserable as you are. If not, then why begin every single discussion by throwing Molotovs right off the bat? If your revelations concerning the Ford administration were of such burning importance, why didn’t you share them before this week? Simple. Now that he died, you see this as a great opportunity to toss hand grenades and piss on his grave. It’s not about forwarding debate and discussion, for if it were, you would have brought this up LONG ago in forums and open threads where you had plenty of time and a good reason to bring up what you thought of the 38th President. It doesn’t hurt you work overtime at being as sneering and condescending as possible, topping it all off with your childish “lame brain” comment. But all of that is necessary for you to bring down the board as much as possible.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)