Ann Coulter Shocked By Lack of Outrage Over Sandy Berger

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As NewsBusters has reported here and here, there has been a shockingly deafening silence from the American media concerning revelations of former National Security Adviser Sandy Berger’s actions at the National Archives in 2003. In fact, it appears that only Fox News has much interest in a story about a top-level political official stealing and destroying top secret documents from the facility responsible for storing them.

With that in mind, “Your World” invited Ann Coulter on to discuss this issue on Thursday, and the conservative author was not shy (video available here courtesy of our friend at Ms Underestimated). After guest host David Asman gave some background, he asked his guest: “Ann Coulter, where is the outrage? Are you surprised that there is no outrage about this?

Ann didn’t disappoint:

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Shocked, I am shocked. No, actually, this is back to the left's normal position. What was strange was when they pretended to care about national security with Valerie Plame. And then when it turned out for one thing, she wasn’t undercover and for another thing the person who outed her name was opposed to the war in Iraq, they went back to their normal position which is to be in favor of outing CIA agents. I mean, they did this back in the '70s. There was Counterspy magazine printing the names of CIA agents. And people that worked in the Clinton administration defended that. So, now we’re at least back to the position where they’re in favor of harming national security.

As this discussion was too funny to interrupt, the reader should view it in its pristine condition (corrected from closed captioning):

Asman: Well, let’s talk about what Sandy Berger actually did. Again, this is a guy that has the top, top national security clearance, he is, after all, the National Security Adviser, he goes into the archives several occasions, takes out five copies of the same document, this is according to the Washington Post, later uses scissors to destroy three of these five documents before placing them in his office trash. And, then, I mean this guy went through a very long, complex, thorough mechanism in order to destroy these documents. Why? Why? What was in there?

Coulter: And, the trickiest part of this scheme was when he put the document in his underwear and socks but all of his defenders on TV claimed it was inadvertent. We’ve got to go back to those “Hannity & Colmes” tapes and play back the defense of this guy.

Asman: But why do you think he went through all this?

Coulter: Well, that’s the big question.

Asman: What was in there that was so important?

Coulter: Well, that’s what I’m wondering. What this document allegedly was is according to his lawyer -- we do not know. I mean…

Asman: His lawyer claims that there was nothing in those documents that has not since been released even though he took five of these documents, five copies out of the archives.

Coulter: Right, which looks a little suspicious. We got to get the Jersey Girls on this, since this was all for the 9/11 Commission to burnish the reputation of Bill Clinton, and this is of course why they leap on a docudrama like that 9/11 docudrama, “The Path to 9/11,” because as we know Clinton was doing nothing. He did not want to know –

Asman: So, you think what these documents show is that despite al Qaeda having declared war on the U.S., and bombing the Cole, etc., that they were not doing enough to go after al Qaeda?

Coulter: Well, we know that with or without these documents. This is just the icing on the cake. Osama was offered to Bill Clinton, he wasn’t interested.

Asman: He was at one of those hunting camps in Afghanistan.

Coulter: Right and every year or two years there would be another attack on America, America’s interests, America’s troops by al Qaeda and he did nothing, nothing, nothing, he was busy with Monica Lewinsky. We know this, and if the 9/11 Commission had not been partisan, with people like Jamie Gorelick responsible for the walls separating intelligence from law-enforcement that could have captured some of the 9/11 terrorists except for what the commissioner on the 9/11…

From there, the discussion moved in Hillary’s direction:

Asman: What does all this say if anything about Hillary Clinton and the way she might deal national security?

Coulter: [Laughs] Yes. Good question. Well, she trained at the feet of the master. No, I guess that was Monica. Sorry.

Asman: Oh, please…who just graduated from the London School of Economics. Hillary Clinton, if she becomes president, if she’s running for president, she's going to have to announce how she will deal with national security. She’s not going to go near this Sandy Berger issue. But, how do you think she will approach national security?

Coulter: But, how will she govern? She also allowed her husband to run for president when she was being called Hillary Clinton, the moment he gets elected she calls herself Hillary Rodham Clinton. She can try to distance herself as much as possible from Sandy Berger, and maybe the American people will fall for it. And then Sandy Berger will be Secretary of State.

Asman: Now, is this fodder for Republicans? Are Republicans in the next election , are they going to bring up Sandy Berger and say hey, look if this is the way the last Clinton administration ran national security, what about the next Clinton administration?

Coulter: Yeah, I think so, because it is an hilarious story, he is stuffing national security documents in his underwear. I mean, the complex stories you can never get people to focus on. This story…and plus, I go back to the fact -- we don’t know, I think, maybe I am wrong, but I don’t think we know with confidence what was in these documents. Maybe he destroyed five of them, what was that document and how do we know it was that document, how do we know he didn’t destroy all of them?

Of course, no media discussion on Thursday could have been complete without addressing the most important issue facing our nation today:

Asman: What do you think, this is out of leftfield, but what do you think about the way that Donald Trump is dealing with the Rosie thing?

Coulter: I’m all on his side and for the first time in my life I am not sure I disagree with what Rosie said but I’m still on his side.

Asman: Why?

Coulter: Oh, just because I don’t like Rosie. I think she is not an attractive or interesting person or funny.

Asman: But you think…

Coulter: But, other than that I love her.

Asman: It doesn’t have anything to do with Miss USA and Trump’s decision?

Coulter: No, like I say, for the first time, as far as I know, unless she’s said something else that I’m not aware of. If all she said was something about the irony of Donald Trump who’s been married several times and had an affair when he had kids.

Asman: So, what she was saying you don’t disagree with?

Coulter: For the first time in my life I don’t disagree with Rosie O’Donnell for her making a statement, but I think she is an unpleasant person and she has done a lot of other things and I like Donald Trump more than Rosie.

The discussion concluded by moving back to Hillary, with Coulter asking the pivotal question that all Americans want to know about the junior senator from New York:

Asman: Hillary was on Rosie. What do you think of Hillary’s attempt to get into the White House?

Coulter: Well, I think the only question that I want to know is what all Americans need to know, which “The View” could have asked Hillary – boxers or briefs. That’s what we want to know.

Actually, on second thought, maybe that would be waaaaay too much information.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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Mr. Sheppard, as usual, your

Mr. Sheppard, as usual, your accompanying photos rock! Kudos to you!

Roger

Rog,

In keeping with the season, please call me Noel. :-)   ns

Just trying to be PC, Noel. D

Just trying to be PC, Noel. Didn't want to offend our more seasonally-challenged NBers!

Rog

Rog,

Makes sense. However, folks that are actually PC and seasonally challenged probably don't get the connection between my first name and Christmas.  :-)   ns

Au contraire, Monsieur Sheppa

Au contraire, Monsieur Sheppard. Noel is "Christmas" in French, is it not?

And we all know how close out "Progressive" friends are to the French, no?

.....

:p

Rog

Rog,

Bien sûr. Mon dieu, comment pourrais-j'être si obtus? Mes excuses.  ns 

Sorry, translation please. Pr

Sorry, translation please. Proud to say, I don't speak "surrender monkey."

IJ

IJ,

Roughly: "But of course. My God, how could I have been so obtuse. My apologies."  ns

I'm sorry. I don't speak Surr

I'm sorry. I don't speak Surrender Monkey...

Thanks to both, Noel and Roge

Thanks to both, Noel and Roger,

Noel, seeing the translation, I probably could have figured it out... if I'd wanted to bother...

Roger, great stuff!!! That's a KEEPER!!!     ;^D

Huh . .???There is no sense i

Huh . .???

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad

The First Noel (of NB)

Noel, although it's a homonym, your last name seems appropriate for the season as well. You weren't born on Christmas by chance, were you?

"your accompanying phot

"your accompanying photos rock!"

I was thinking the same thing, really ahead of the curve.  The photos of Hildabeast also remind me of the observations: 'George Bush was elected President because he's everyone's fishin' buddy.  Hillary will never be because she's everyone's ex-wife'.

Ok, that was rude... and comp

Ok, that was rude... and completly called for.

Gosh to hoping for any pictur

Gosh to hoping for any pictures of the Bush twits running half naked down hotel halls in Argentina.

Great information there Noel,

Great information there Noel, but nothing about the silence of the left about Burglar is surprising whatsoever.....absolutely nothing, it is despicable, disgraceful, pathetically sad, hypocritical to the utmost but typical with the leftist msm....I also think I disagree with Ann this time about the Republicans asking Hillary anything about this illegal outrage by Burglar...they are always too weak-kneed, I give up on them that way.

Loved her comment about the Jersey Girls though!

What was worth it was the pictures of 'Chipmunk Cheeks Shrillary'.....it has made my day so far! She is just so photogenic isn't she?!

"Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland

BT

BT,

Well, if we try to put this incident in perspective with let's say Tom DeLay's legal problems, or the Mark Foley page scandal, which of the three is likely the most important? I would think a national security adviser stealing and destroying top secret documents prior to them being turned over to a panel investigating what led to the largest attack on our nation in its history would certainly be as important as a sexual scandal in the Congress or a Congressman's potential campaign finance abuses.

What are we missing here? How can this story possibly be buried by our media? You call it a disgrace? I call it an abomination that should lead to Congressional hearings.  ns

Noel, I could not agree more,

Noel,

I could not agree more, the problem with this is the left is in charge of Congress and I bet just about anything they are not going to be bring any hearings on this up whatsoever...it is maddening to put it mildly...

I have been outraged about this since the beginning with the hypocrisy, even more so now...especially since it has to do with how the previous administration did absolutely zilch to protect this country, even when Osama was offered up on a silver platter...more than once we could of had him.

"Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland

BT

BT,

Yet, it is still possible that the much larger issue is how the media are ignoring this. After all, if they can black out such vital national security information -- especially as our nation is at war on mulitple fronts -- what else are they keeping from the electorate?

Howard Fineman wrote more than a year ago about the media being their own political party. Now, granted, it's a party that leans to the Democrats. However, as this party gets more and more powerful, we who recognize it must get more and more concerned for what it means in the future.

When I suggest Congressional hearings, I'm talking about investigations into the media. I would like to see the executive directors of all three networks asked under oath how this revelation could possibly be blacked out on their news programs. Wouldn't that be glorious?  ns

Noel,In answer to your last q

Noel,

In answer to your last question I am shouting YES to you at the top of my voice from the top of the map hoping you can hear it down in my old home state!

Btw...This is going to bug me for awhile, I may have the wrong topic but I caught a little of Tom Davis yesterday morning on the Washington Journal who is (was) head of a committee and it seems he said Pelosi is not going to continue with an investigation they were about done with in the House and he is going to go ahead and release the report soon, I think it may have had to do with Burglar...I could be wrong, it was a totally crazy day here yesterday! (I may try and check later today if I get time)...just thought I would throw that in there.

Merry Christmas to you and all of you at NewsBusters that have worked so hard to bring this gift to us! It is priceless!

"Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland

BT

BT,

You're welcome. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year right backatcha.  ns

Noel,While I agree it would b

Noel,

While I agree it would be "glorious" to hear the heads of the major networks answer the question you propose, wouldn't they merely claim "First Amendment" protection, and refuse to answer? The "Fifth Amendment" may be more applicable, but it's not really a crime to withold "news," is it? Maybe it SHOULD be, but I don't see anyway to make that workable...

Just my pragmatic side beating down the endorphin rush such a scenario creates....          ;^)

IJ

IJ,

Sure. However, it's not a crime for Congress to look at the media. There are, of course, examples in history, not the least of which being the McCarthy hearings. As you know, there are some on the right who believe that this entire incident was misrepresented by the media, and that McCarthy was the scapegoat.

Regardless of your position on this issue, the bottom line is that the time has come for some investigation into the media's impact on politics, government, and national security. From revealing confidential information to misrepresenting and withholding information from the electorate, the media have, in the past six years, abdicated all impartiality, and are, therefore, not acting in the public's interest. This Berger incident is just another example.

With that in mind, the time has come for some serious Congressional hearings to address this.  JMHO    ns

Noel,Oh, of course, I agree 1

Noel,

Oh, of course, I agree 100% with everything you've said. I just have this "results" fetish that makes me ask "what would be the point?" The reporting of the hearings would be in the hands of the "defendants," plus FoxNews, and would be spun appropriately. A Democrat-controlled Congress would NEVER hold such hearings, and a Republican Congress would be painted as engaging in a "partisan witch-hunt."

We can still dream, I guess, and I really think it's long past time something was done about the NS leaks, at least, but realistically, it's just a nice dream. As you say, JMHO....

If it COULD be worked out to actually ACCOMPLISH something, then I would, of course, be ALL FOR it!!!

Regards,
IJ

"Congress would be pain

"Congress would be painted as engaging in a 'partisan witch-hunt'"

I can just see the coverage on every news channel, every hour on the hour, 7 days a week, months on end, with specials on the evening news and on every news magazine, graphics of Congressmen side-by-side with McCarthy, Communists, Nazis, hyenas, buzzards, snakes, ticks,... in depth reports on their private lives and families alleging affairs, perversions, bad hygiene,... every dirty trick in the book and some as yet unwritten.

Ten7s

T7,

Well, but maybe that's the reason to do it. There was an interesting discussion during the panel segment of yesterday's "Special Report." Brit showed a video done by some group satirizing what media coverage would have been like during WWII. As you might imagine, the point was to demonstrate how antiwar the media likely would have been back then if it had today's producers and correspondents. Nina Easton suggested that this should have been considered by the White House before going to war.

Now, nobody on the panel seriously pondered the significance of what she had said. Basically, extrapolating from her statements, foreign policy positions and decisions today should include how the media are going to cover said policy, as well as how that coverage might impact the sentiment of the electorate.

That seems incredibly scary to me, and furthers my point concerning the need for Congressional examination. If presidents and legislators in the future are going to have to weigh media reaction and coverage when making foreign policy and national security decisions of such gravity, this is a condition which must be corrected post haste -- especially in a post-9/11 world.   ns

Noel,If presidents and legisl

Noel,

If presidents and legislators in the future are going to have to weigh media reaction and coverage when making foreign policy and national security decisions of such gravity, this is a condition which must be corrected post haste -- especially in a post-9/11 world.  

One of our military posters yesterday (BD?) suggested that his only criticism of the war so far was that the planners backed down on having their own media office, submitting to the press' objection that "that was their job" to report the news.  So it seems your comment is spot-on.   We are now formulating war plans due to pressure from the media.  Scary, and dangerous.

The video you referred to is on YouTube.  Search on "This is DNN".  I have a hard time with that site over my wireless connection....but it's there, and worth viewing.

I saw that too B that BD post

I saw that too B that BD posted, (I got rudely interrupted and had to quit here for awhile and never did get back to commenting) I heard about that too a couple of days ago, the biggest mistake we have made is because of the media when it comes to this war and political correctness, I am sick and tired of it, this administration is going to get criticized no matter what they do!

We should of bombed the hell out of Fallujah, took  fat-ass Sadr out, and went ahead and destroyed the Golden Dome and all in it...ect!

Plus the military should of had their own media office, still should! They know damned good and well the leftist media in all forms are the problem because they are the enemy within...along with the rest of the leftist trash that is strewn about!

"Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland

BT, I have to agree with you

BT, I have to agree with you on this one. The administration bought into this "embedded" reporters BS, and had no real media division of it's own. That should have been seen as necessary, just to balance the bias of the MSM, right from the start. After all, the "Bush-bashing" did NOT start when we invaded Iraq, nor even after 9/11... it started pretty much when the man announced his candidacy. And it hasn't stopped since....

They should have seen this coming from MILES away, and been prepared to counter it. This administration may go down in history as the most inept in dealing with the PR side of governing.

And that would be saying a lot!

Sure Noel, its a reason that

Sure Noel, its a reason that it should be done.  But which Congressman is going to do it?  My guess is that Congressmen, whose joint and individual focus seems to be the accumulation and maintenance of power, will never directly attack the media, especially considering the virtual immunity that the media enjoy with First Amendment protection and vast institutional wealth. 

The same influence that Nina Easton suggests must be a factor in national security and foreign policy decisions can easily be used to destroy Congressmen.  And attacking the media head-on as you suggest would likely invite their full and uniform anger.  Its a wonderful idea, and I'd love to see it.  But right now the deck is stacked heavily against a Congressional Investigation. 

I'd certainly welcome such Congressional Investigations.  But it seems that the callow Congress is much more likely to join the media and persecute the Bush Administration for both their National Security and Foreign Policy decisions.

And as you say, subjecting important decisions to the whims of the media is troubling to say the least.  Its a version of the mob rule that the Founding Fathers warned against with the media agitating the mob.

OK, Noel, I'm not a professio

OK, Noel, I'm not a professional writer or blogger, but can I offer a little advice?  Your column was interesting, but it was very hard to concentrate with the pictures you chose to place with them.  Each time I tried to concentrate on the words, my eyes would gravitate to the pictures and I would either laugh uncontrollably or wretch (also uncontrollably).

All the pictures are priceless!

"People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news."  - A.J. Liebling

Noel...I have been OUTRAGED f

Noel...I have been OUTRAGED for YEARS !! about  Sandy BURGELER!!   If he were a Republican!  he would have been put in JAIL years ago!!     ww       :-(                 ...MERRY  CHRISTMAS TO ALL,   GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS     :-)  WW    

Rosie and Hillary

The pictures are great. Rosie and Hillary, two phony "moms" who want to rule the world. God help us!

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

DWI

I know someone who just got a DUI. Going through hell. Not like Patrick Kennedy. Sandy is also above the law. The citizens should be outraged. Instead, the lambs go to slaughter and our wonderful media watchdogs stand silently by. ALL of them, even those who say they are "watching out for you".

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

Oh Please

OH<<<< PLEASE!!! As dispicable as is the MSM's total silence on this story, please don't tell me that any of us Repubs or Conseves are SHOCKED by it. C'MON.

We have known for a long time now that the MSM is nothing but a multi-armed press agent for the Democrat party that is hiding behind, what they think, is constitutional protection. It has now long been established as to what the MSM is and the price is no longer even in question; they have been bought and paid for by the Democrat party and their phony ideology. Any one who does not see this can sell what they are smoking for a fortune.

The only difference in the MSM today and what they were 25 years ago is since that Fox News came along and the MSM thinks they have a scapegoat, they don't even try to disguise their serfdom anymore. They just press forth with no shame.

Bernie Goldberg is an ABSOLUTE PROPHET and should be treated as such. He has more reason to crow "I TOLD YOU SO" than any other person on the face of the earth. He is flowing over with courage and he has paid an enormous price at the hands of these modern day Pharisees.

 

photos

The first pic of Hillary looks like it was snapped just 5 seconds before her head exploded.

Ok, OK, it didn't explode, but a guy can dream, can't he???

PS photo--cruel time

PS photo--cruel time.

Went back and looked at photos again.  The second pic of hillary was titled (by Bill) "And you wonder why I looked elsewhere for fun".

I love those two pictures of

I love those two pictures of The Red Queen . . . and thanks again, Annie!

Could you imagine the out

Could you imagine the outcry from the left, had it been
Condi who did this? It’s weird enough to
cram multiple copies of the same document in your underwear. But to then bury the absconded documents under
a trailer, or cut them up with a scissors (despite your knowledge of how they
should be properly destroyed) is pretty damned suspicious. I wonder how many shows Old Yeller (Chris
Matthews) would devote to this subject, if the offender was an evil republican.

Could you imagine the outcry

Could you imagine the outcry from the left, had it been
Condi who did this?

Exactly C5! She'd of been quartered and drawn already!

The hypocrisy is so rotten you can smell it everywhere without a gentle breeze.

"Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland

Great- just great- now I've g

Great- just great- now I've got a 'photo-induced coma' - I'm not even sure if IU'm typing this correctly- You should have put a warning sign on the article. Isn't there some kind of law against treating cameras to cruel and unusual punishment?

http://sacredscoop.com

The Red Queen

I'm going to e-mail the pictures to all my liberal friends.

noel/no warning ta pictures

noel: it's the season to be nice, but the picture of the beast's,not at lunch time please, think of the childern,then you back it with hate speech!!,hearings,investigation,black-op's, los'alamos files,china gate, oil for fun,pay-off's,bag-men,dead-men crawling,!! i owe YOU an ipswich ale!!

Bless and support "All" the troops-LIBERALISM is a mental disorder!!

Ann Coulter makes good poin

Ann Coulter makes good points about security, but doesn't seem like she's read up enough on the Berger investigation. They DID know what documents he was looking at and NO originals were ever in his possession. Ann herself says he destroyed the same document 5 times... how do you do that if there weren't copies? Why he was taking documents, I don't know. I am glad to know that they weren't destroyed and are still part of the historical record.

Sandy Burglar

Blog,

<<< Ann herself says he destroyed the same document 5 times... how do you do that if there weren't copies? >>>

There were individual notes on each document written by the person who possessed the document during the meetings. The notes were unique and relevant. Someone must have scribbled something damaging on his/her individual copy. So logically, each copy must die.

Gordo

Melmac

I'm starting to go numb wit

I'm starting to go numb with all the news of the lack of concern over a leftist committing a felony, and basically committing treason. (destroying national security documents in a time of war.)

I'm sick and tired of these mamby pamby Republicans kowtowing to the leftist media in this country. When are we going to get a leader with some kahones??? Mr. Berger needs to be in jail... for at least 10 years, and he needs to have his access to classified documents revoked for life!

I've let myself get angry over this. I've let myself become incensed. I have a six month old daughter and every time I read about the Left and their complete disregard for national security and their complete lack of understanding of our enemy.... it makes me fear for my daughter’s life... and what’s more... it drives that primal parental protective instinct in me to kill that which threatens my child.

Of course, my more civilized side keeps me from doing this... and of course, the fact that if I did, I would not be around to protect my daughter. But I feel as if I'm nearing the end of my rope. I see little hope in the left ever acknowledging our enemy... and I feel even if a Nuke went off in a US city, the left would want investigations and lawsuits.... while at the same time, blame George Bush's foreign policy for causing those who did it to hate us...

Sandy Berger and the rest of the criminal Clintonistas will continue to do what they do. The Liberals in our country and abroad will also continue to do what they do... and of course, that is, bring down our capitalist economy, and destroy our country so they can rebuild it into a socialist state. I'm sure that most Libs think that even if the country is pretty much destroyed, that they'll be able to rebuild. I'm sure that with their hate of Christianity, they'd think that the destruction of the US as a good thing. I say this and I'm not even a Christian.

When I saw Ann roll her eyes at the question about Bush's Attorney General letting this guy off... I knew that she probably felt similar to me on this.

If the next president is a Conservative... and I hope that he is.... he better fire every top manager at the State Department, CIA, Pentagon and Attorney General's office... and hire all new people. Then invoke a zero tolerance law for any leakers and start handing out fake information along with real to track down the leakers... then, put them on trial in Military tribunals for treason.

Oh, and Noel..... MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! Happy Birthday Jesus Christ!!! (Hey, I believe the guy lived, just not a Christian). --- That's for all the sensitive people reading this....hope I've offended you. For the rest of you..... Hope you have a wonderful family Christmas and remember.... give your family a big hug and kiss and tell them you love them every time you see them.

____________________________________________________

"These are the times that try men's souls." ~ Thomas Paine

LBZ

LBZ,

Thanks for the tidings. BTW - Isn't it believed that Jesus was likely born in April?  ns

I don't know when Jesus was

I don't know when Jesus was really born.... Could have been April.

Merry Christmas anyway.... Merry Christmas to all.... and to Liberals..... Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas and God Bless you All.

____________________________________________________

"These are the times that try men's souls." ~ Thomas Paine

LBZ

LBZ,

BTW - I meant no disrespect for bringing up his possible birthdate. I know there's been some discussion on this issue for several decades. Regardless, you are 100 percent correct...Merry Christmas to all!

Or, as Tiny Tim would say, God bless us, every one.  ns

              .

              ...MERRY  CHRISTMAS TO ALL,   GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS     :-)  WW    

Actually, it was John the

Actually, it was John the Baptist who was most likely born in mid April, and Jesus was born 5 months later, in September. And the BC / AD delineation of the calendar is most likely off by 2 years. So Jesus was probably born in September of 2 BC.

But it doesn't matter when our Lord and Savior was born, we celebrate His birth, whenever it was. God bless us everyone, and God bless America.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

lbz....WOW! What a great post

lbz....WOW! What a great post! Every single word you wrote I agree with so well and wished I could put things together like that, I know I have stated the same thoughts in different posts, but you gave me a great Christmas gift just with summing it up in one great post!

Btw....I wished the next administration, if it is conservative would abolish the State Dept., along with the IRS, flat tax...look at the money we would save.The AG and the Justice Dept. are a pathetic joke, I am and have been terribly disappointed....on and on it goes.

Merry Christmas to you and yours...."Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland

BT'er, I don't think we sho

BT'er, I don't think we should abolish the State Department. We just need to adjust their thinking. First, get rid of any of them appointed or brought in by the previous administration. Second, the careerists have to acknowledge that foreign policy is the purview of the President and if they can't support that policy their resignations will be expected forthwith. After that opportunity an of them caught not fully engaged in furthering the policy decisions of the President will be relieved/fired for cause - bye! Last, when we're down to the brass tacks with an enemy, when we've decided they aren't serious then the State Department delegation leader should break out his/her laptop, establish a satellite link and start the presentation showing Army divisions mobilizing, Navy Battle Groups steaming, bombers launching and missile silos opening up.

Then...they all stand up and start singing

(chorus)

We'll be coming over the horizon when we come

We'll be coming over the horizon when we come

We'll be coming over the horizon, we'll be coming over the horizon

We'll be coming over the horizon when we come

We'll be driving Abrams tanks when we come

We'll be driving Abrams tanks when we come

We'll be driving Abrams tanks, we'll be driving Abrams tanks

We'll be driving Abrams tanks when we come

(chorus)

We'll be dropping ordnance from bombers when we come

We'll be dropping ordnance from bombers when we come

We'll be dropping ordnance, we'll be dropping ordnance

We'll be dropping ordnance from bombers when we come

(chorus)

We'll have aircraft carriers and AEGIS ships when we come

We'll have aircraft carriers and AEGIS ships when we come

We'll have aircraft carriers, we'll have AEGIS ships

We'll have aircraft carriers and AEGIS ships when we come

(chorus)

Close laptop, shake hands, and say "You know where to contact us."


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Boxers or Briefs?

The ugly answer is that she's shaved and goes Commando!  Oh man, please poke my mind's eye out now!

Chasvs

Chasvs,

That's disgusting, and you should have your membership revoked just for thinking it!  Merry Christmas!  :-)   ns

Gotta love those pictures of

Gotta love those pictures of Hillary...hilarious!! As far as the behavior of the "Burglar" and subsequent media coverage (or lack thereof), is anyone really surprised?

But remember, the media isn't biased...they tell us so all the time...we just won't listen.

Cunservatyve military medical guy

If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul's vote!

Nothing...

I have now listened to Ann Coulter twice, once on Jay Leno and now this. Both times she blew the moment. She could say something worth listening to, but she does not. She basically says nothing. I have not read her book, but if she writes like she talks, I am sure it says nothing.

She accuses others of doing nothing--she does nothing. She is a career activist, as are most of the right-wing conservatives. Sadly, I have found out  that the reason the right-wing movement is losing, is not the raging heathen liberal, but the void of any substance money grubbing right winger who calls himself/herself a 'Christian.’

God says, “My people perish for lack of knowledge.” At this time I am studying an in-depth study of the US Constitution. There is a section on my site that soon will teach the US Constitution. It is called, www.TotallyRevolutional.com.  Yes, we all complain. I am complaining right now. But who is doing something about that which is wrong?

Debra…
www.InformingChristians.com

&quot;I have not read her b

"I have not read her book..."

That's alright, she probably hasn't read anything you've written either.

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It is true that the Democrat

It is true that the Democrat party has hurt our country immensely by their actions. But the Republican party has hurt our country even more by their lack of action. The Republicans have had the house and the senate for years and one has been in the presidential office for years, what have they fixed? Homosexual 'marriage' licenses are being handed out in Massachusetts and the governor who ordered such (without legislative action) may end up running for president (Republican) in 2008. New Jersey will soon follow with a brand of their own homosexual 'marriage' licenses. In California, students who go to private Christian schools are not eligible for the same state aid as other schools, if their school teaches against homosexuality. New York has a male high school science teacher, who thinks he is a woman and dressing as such. October was "Gay History Month" in Philadelphia: http://www.debrajmsmith.com/idiot.html. Evolution is now being taught as fact in public schools on a whole and creation is a dirty word. The alteration of English word meanings, are now altering previous penned laws--including the US Constitution. The ACLU is being allowed to torment our nation, as are the homosexuals, by way of economic terrorism. Freedom of speech is now called hate speech and will soon land a person in prison. A woman (Terri Schiavo) was sentenced to death because her quality of life was not that of her husband's, by a judge who refused to even go see her--see: http://www.debrajmsmith.com/terri.html and buy the book by her lawyer David Gibbs, "Fighting For Dear Life." Illegal aliens are marching in our streets demanding rights and instead of being deported our government is contemplating letting them keep social security from stolen identities!  Nothing has been done to end abortion--just how long does ending the murders of millions of babies take in a country that's telling every other country to be civilized?  And with all of this, the truth of the US Constitution has been lost in today's rhetoric and a person who dares to say that we need to get back to that truth is told to come into today's America! Our country has forgotten that the US Constitution is a contract, with no ending date. Our country has also forgotten that it was signed in the year of our Lord and in the independence of the United States of America. See: http://www.debrajmsmithcom/usframe.html And what is the cause for all of this? Well, what does God say? God says, "My people perish for lack of knowledge." America is perishing from an internal cancer named liberalism and the majority of conservatives are enablers because all they can do is whine about it.  Let's do something about it! Satan did this by 'dumbing' down America. Let's educate America, let's educate conservatives so that they can make some changes.

d/ smith

this matter was in play when romney was coming into office he try to have it go to ballots but was-over ruled by court/jesters" they ruled!!" this in now it's back into court for raper's to vote (1/3/07) but they are out of session which they did not during which romney has been held hostage since state is (87%-13%) when he came ,now it's 92%-7%) totally (dem.) now with ,new govern deval patrick(d/s) they are filling back rooms with ex/clinton people, this "is" where kerry aka(the flounder) and ted aka(  ted the swimmer, pour me another-bottoms-up) crawl from, the media is total'ly controled( bias left ) in all area's(glode,npr,air/radio ) filterering everything ,this is the "STATE" "crapthews learnt  his treasonous ways from ,,

Merry Christmas

Bless and support "all" the troops-Liberalism "is" a mental disorder!!

For get about Berger.  How a

For get about Berger.  How about the bush (lowercase intentional) administration posted on the "internets" detailed plans for building a nuclear bomb?

Forget about the Bush (uppe

Forget about the Bush (upper case intentional) administration posting on the internet detailed plans for building a nuclear bomb. How about conservative joe (lower case intentional) posting on the internets and proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that he has no concept of reality.


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